Paging the Hennaphilic Gals...

[Armyqt]

Re: I HAVE A QUESTION????????????????

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SeaMist said:
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Seamist,
How long did you leave the hennalucent in your hair?
Thanks!

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I made a warm tea out of cornsilk and added to the neutral henna, GPB, olive oil, jojoba oil, aloe vera powder, and a little castor oil. Castor oil is too thick for my taste but it's great as a moisturizer, so I added just a little. I applied the mix, put on a plastic cap and left it on a little under an hour.

That aloe vera powder is something else

I'm familiar with the gel, but the powder has one of the strongest odors I ever experienced from a herb in my life. I was shocked by the odor because I'm so accustomed to the gel.

After the hour, I rinsed and noticed the stiffness that some of you have been talking about. But now that Iris listed those two ingredients, I think it is the animal protein and probably the SLS as well, that makes the hair a bit stiff. It wasn't anything major and after I washed my hair with CON shampoo and conditioned by mixing the Tropical avocado conditioner with the Nancidit Olive Oil rinse. My new growth was loosed, relaxed parts were shining and my hair was soft to the touch.

I used the mango butter and fantasia leave in and curled my hair. It was so soft, bouncy and shiny I couldn't believe it. And just as you guys said, when I washed my hair three day after the first treatment, it just fell over in the sink. Detangling was no problem whatsoever and it was very soft to the touch. I'm going to try the Lotus Powder and the pure henna because I want to see the difference also. I'm happy with the hennalucent and think it is one of the best products on the market

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That sounds like a great combo Seamist. Where can I get cornsilk from?

Girl don't you just love Tropical Avocado and Nacidit? Tropical is my fave but they're both very mosturizing

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[sweetcocoa]

Re: I HAVE A QUESTION????????????????

Thanks SeaMist...I have another question for you or anyone else...what is cornsilk? Is it an herb?
I'm ready to do another treatment tonight, but would like to try making the tea with this?
Thanks!

 

[Guest]

Re: I HAVE A QUESTION????????????????

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Armyqt said: That sounds like a great combo Seamist. Where can I get cornsilk from?

Girl don't you just love Tropical Avocado and Nacidit? Tropical is my fave but they're both very mosturizing .


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You can buy cornsilk from any health food store. Armyqt I love the avocado and olive oil rinse

They are so moisturizing and I think some of the best conditionees available

 

[Guest]

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sweetcocoa said:
Thanks SeaMist...I have another question for you or anyone else...what is cornsilk? Is it an herb?
I'm ready to do another treatment tonight, but would like to try making the tea with this?
Thanks!

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Cornsilk is a herb, dark brown in color. Tje fragrance is appealing, very low-key. It doesn't have me nearly as freaked out as the aloe vera powder! You can get the cornsilk at any local healthfood store. You need a strainer also. I poured very hot water over it, let it sit for 15minutes,strained and added it to my mix. I still can't stop talking about that aloe vera powder because if you could get a whiff of it at the healthfood store, you'll know what I'm talking about

It turned the whole mix into a chocolatey souffle, the application was smooth but it fragranced the whole house. It took all my strength to keep the mix on for close to an hour!

 

[iris]

Re: I HAVE A QUESTION????????????????

I meant to ask you Armyqt, how is your daughters hair coming along? Is the curl pattern looser? How far are you into the treatments. Thanks!

SeaMist I'm glad everything is working so well for you

 

[sweetcocoa]

Re: I HAVE A QUESTION????????????????

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SeaMist said:
I still can't stop talking about that aloe vera powder because if you could get a whiff of it at the healthfood store, you'll know what I'm talking about

It turned the whole mix into a chocolatey souffle, the application was smooth but it fragranced the whole house. It took all my strength to keep the mix on for close to an hour!


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I think I'll pass on the powder!

I have the aloe vera in oil so I'll use that again.

 

[Katrine]

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Honey, sugar etc is not used by simply putting them on the skin and letting them soak in. Papain (papya), bromelain (pineapple) is used like that. Meaning they inhibit hair the same way as you are going to use them; putting them on, letting them sit and wash. Not the same as making a sugaring paste which is used purely because of stickyness and not because of any other qualities.

They break down dead cells/protein/enzymes. In other words: They eat hair. I would still not put that on my hair in high concentrations for long periods of time.

 

[Armyqt]

Re: I HAVE A QUESTION????????????????

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iris said:
I meant to ask you Armyqt, how is your daughters hair coming along? Is the curl pattern looser? How far are you into the treatments. Thanks!

SeaMist I'm glad everything is working so well for you

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Hello Iris, my daughter's hair has responded very well to the Hennalucent. I'm doing her third treatment tomorrow. So far I've had no problems with combouts and I use way less products to get her hair well groomed. I'm loving it.

Sweetcocoa, I picked up some blacstrap molasses today and I';m gonna add alittle to the mixture tomorrow. How much did u use? TIA

 

[iris]

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Glad to hear everything is going well Armyqt

 

[sweetcocoa]

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Armyqt said:
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iris said:
I meant to ask you Armyqt, how is your daughters hair coming along? Is the curl pattern looser? How far are you into the treatments. Thanks!

SeaMist I'm glad everything is working so well for you

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Hello Iris, my daughter's hair has responded very well to the Hennalucent. I'm doing her third treatment tomorrow. So far I've had no problems with combouts and I use way less products to get her hair well groomed. I'm loving it.

Sweetcocoa, I picked up some blacstrap molasses today and I';m gonna add alittle to the mixture tomorrow. How much did u use? TIA

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I used about 2 tablesoons the last time. I may use more this time...I'll probably play it by ear.

 

[Armyqt]

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Thanks Sweetcocoa, I'm definitely gonna add some tomorrow. I bet that along with the castor will soften like nobody's business. BTW, I went to my local Healthfood store today looking for cornsilk..they were like

They had never heard of the powder, but the had the tea. It is 100% cornsilk, so I'm gonna use it in my mixture tomorrow.

 

[Guest]

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Armyqt no wonder they went

because cornsilk is a herbal tea

I was referring to the aloe vera powder and that smell

I want to ask the manufacuturers of the aloe

too, for not putting a warning label on the packet!

 

[Armyqt]

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Duh, so all along, everyone's been referring to the tea? Why in the world did I think this was a powder?

 

[LuvableLady]

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They do have cornsilk powder (Zea mays) I have some but the tea should work the same, or as good.

 

[Guest]

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They do have cornsilk powder (Zea mays) I have some but the tea should work the same, or as good.

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Well I've learned something new. Every store I go into they always seem to just have the herbal tea? Thanks for the info

 

[iris]

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I never went into any health food store either and found the powder? Oh well, thanks for posting this info luvablelady

 

[LuvableLady]

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I didn't buy the cornsilk powder from a health food store, I bought it from a herb store on the internet. You can find just about anything online.

It was $5.75 for a pound and sound safe enough so I purchased it.

 

[HennaJoy]

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Hi SassyGirl,

Cassia Auricalata is the Latin name for senna and comes in powder or leaves.

Indigo, henna and senna are all very very different plants and yield quite different results. The Light Mountain information on their website is...how can a put this...bogus comes to mind. Or more nicely and more tactfully, a bit misleading.

Example: Although Lawsonia is the only "true henna" plant, in the henna market the Indigoferae and Cassia Auriculata plants are called henna."

In the henna market, henna is used for body art as well as for hair. It would only be in reference to hair that indigo or senna would be ever referred to as henna. And even then it is understood that they are not henna. Indigo can not be used for body art effectively even though it is a natural dye because it will not stain the skin any thing other than a pale greyish/blue. Senna won't stain the skin at all. In the U.S. market, to label indigo or senna as henna would be considered misrepresentation of the product and the FDA would stop that at the border if they caught it.

"All hennas are a blend of these three botanicals."

That is just not true. 100% henna powder is just that...100% henna. To blend indigo with henna would produce a dark brown near black to black color depending upon weather there is more indigo in the powder or more henna in the mix. There is no need to put senna in henna as it would do nothing for the color or the conditioning property.

"The Lawsonia plant supplies the red shades,..."

True.

"...Indigoferae the black shades"

Also true.

"...and Cassia Auriculata is the neutral conditioner."

True again. However, each of these are not in all hennas. Each of these are not in every one of Light Mountains colors.

Therefore, to only put "100% premium Henna" on the label as the ingredient is misleading and misrepresenting what is in the product. You do not see 100% henna (lawsonia inermis) there because they know that the product is not 100% henna and therefore not 100% lawsonia inermis. It is rather slick language. I think they would be better off and their customers better served if they would just say what is in the powders or if they don't want to do that, just don't use language that would lead people to believe their mixture is 100% henna when it clearly is not.

Actually the information you copied from that website is better than some of the information on websites selling Light Mountain. On one site it states that all of the different colors come from the henna plant only from different parts of the henna plant...like one color from the leaves...another from the bark and another from the roots of the henna tree/bush. So some of their information is better than some of the other information provided. Just none of it is accurate enough in my opinion.

HennaJoy

 

[Mahalialee4]

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All said, I think that Katrina was very keen to post the "cautions" about the papain-and I personally appreciate it. I considered it because of the softening effect. Relaxers also have a softening effect and can eat hair, however, there is a neutralizer to counter that. Any benefit that papain could give me in softening is not worth the downside. I think I will pass on that ingredient and use something that I do not have to be holding my breath over. Thank you Katrina. I guess I will pass on pondering about the meat tenderizer too! shudder...

 

[Mahalialee4]

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I love cornsilk. Marshmallow is supposed to be nice too. I picked up some Lotus Powder today. It is a combo of Lotus root Powder- Lilyroot-yam. Oh well, it was the closest I could find in town. It is used to make desserts,teas, health supplement etc. and I will use it and test it on my own hair. I have tried worse combos.

Bonjour. It cost 3.00 canadian.

 

[HennaJoy]

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Hi Mahalialee4,

Thanks for the links...really helpful...

And always appreciated.

HennaJoy

 

[iris]

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<font color="red">Hello Everyone

I'm requesting that we keep all henna posts on this thread for the time being. I realize that the popularity of this product is increasing. Therefore, this fact is all the more reason in keeping henna posts confined here, making it much easier for an individual to utilize this thread as a mini-reference library, for all henna information that may be pertinent. Also, this saves considerable time because it eliminates the need in having to keep running searches, trying to gather henna information from various locations on the forum. Thank you very much for your consideration.

-Iris </font>

 

[sassygirl125]

Re: Paging the Hennaphilic Gals...rather long

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The Light Mountain information on their website is...how can a put this...bogus comes to mind.

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Well that explains why the only info I found concerning cassia auricalata and hair was from Light Mountain and sites selling LM products.

This burns me up. I don't think their product is harmful to hair, but I wish they would drop the double talk...

 

[Lucia]

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I just tried hennalucent neutral, and my hair is shinier and the combout was a little easier. My curls seemed more defined, but it did not straithen my hair or change the texture in any way, my hair is still as thick as ever even more so now, but I don't want my hair straight I just wanted some frizz control. Thanks for the recommendations everyone. I'm now adding henna to my bi-monthly routine.

 

[sweetcocoa]

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Lucia said:
I just tried hennalucent neutral, and my hair is shinier and the combout was a little easier. My curls seemed more defined, but it did not straithen my hair or change the texture in any way, my hair is still as thick as ever even more so now, but I don't want my hair straight I just wanted some frizz control. Thanks for the recommendations everyone. I'm now adding henna to my bi-monthly routine.


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I'm after the same thing...frizz control.
My 2nd application is in my hair right now. After this one, I'll decide wether or not to skip a week or go to monthly...

 

[hada]

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Hello Iris,

I was thinking the samething. I agree we should keep everything in one thread. This ball is rolling now!!!

Thank God for HENNA! He knew what He was doing...

Hada

 

[CynamonKis]

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Hi All:

Today I tried the Light Mountain Color-the-Gray Henna in Auburn and boy do I love it (can't keep my hands out of my hair)!

Benefits: My hair is MUCH STRONGER, and I can see a definite taming of the curl pattern &amp; frizz control. My hair mostly had dark auburn highlights. This Light Mountain brand DID color the gray.

Negative: Only one, perhaps 2 -- I didn't like the color achieved on the gray hair -- it was colored copper, while I'd have preferred deeper red highlights on my gray. Also I can tell the gray coverage won't last long. But this is a minor negative.

Method: Light Mountain Color the Gray uses a 2-step process. I think the 1st step is supposed to be a natural henna, left on for 5 minutes. The 2nd step was the actual auburn color, which I left on for 2 hours. After the 1st step, which I left on for 1/2 hr instead of the recommended 5 minutes, my gray INITIALLY turned brownish-orange but all this corrected itself after the 2nd step (for a minute I was scared---this wasn't apparent in the harvest test!)

Mixture: I made 1 cup of tea, out of 1/2 teaspoon, each, of the following herbs: marshmallow root, nettle, cornsilk powder, &amp; sage powder.

I made a 1/4 cup oil mixture: castor oil, jojoba oil, hempseed oil and olive oil.

In Step 2, I mixed the oil, 1/4 cu. moisturizing protein conditioner, 1.5 oz henna, and 1/2 cup of the tea &amp; 1 TBSP. ACV &amp; applied this to my hair. Then I mixed a small amt. of henna with a little of the tea, only, &amp; applied this directly to the gray hair. After putting on the plastic hat that came in the box and my plastic shower cap, then let it all sit on my hair for 2 hours, spending 1 of those hours in the hot tub.

After rinsing the henna out in the shower, I conditioned my hair w/Tropical Avocado. After rinsing, this out I applied my Motions Nourish leave-in (w/olive oil &amp; infusium for comb-out), then Carol's daughter's healthy hair butter &amp; Sweet Coca's shea butter pomade (good stuff!). Comb-out was very easy &amp; my hair was obviously stronger, &amp; I could definitely see a loosening of the curl pattern.

I'd like to try this once/week for the next 3 weeks for the conditioning/curl-loosening benefits, but next week instead of color I'll do the neutral henna I got from the health food store. I'll report back on this next week.

 

[iris]

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Hada said: Hello Iris,

I was thinking the samething. I agree we should keep everything in one thread. This ball is rolling now!!!
Thank God for HENNA! He knew what He was doing...

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Hada isn't henna fascinating! And yes the good Lord sure knew what He was doing when He created it! After all, He is the maker of all things

!!!

 

[iris]

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CynamonKis I'm happy about your results! Right now, I'm doing a treatment with the hennalucent but next time I think I'm going to try the rainbow brand until my lotus powder and henna sample comes in

Your enthusiasm over your results come right through the screen and isn't it fantastic, almost to the point of being miraculous, that we have found a natural product that works such wonders?!

 

[CynamonKis]

Re: I loved the henna!

Iris, thank you. Please let me know how you like the lotus powder I've been hearing so much about it. Yes, I am excited about henna!

To think how I've struggled to make my hair stronger the last few months -- it's amazing to find a product that not only strengthens my hair, but colors that darned gray!

LOL!