Low Porosity Support Thread

[divachyk]

Nix08, I have done the LOCO many times. I like it also.

faithVA, I'm glad we both found what works but honestly, I was struggling at one point. I could figure out my left foot from my right foot and it was driving me bonkers.

 

[uofmpanther]

I think whether and what oil my hair likes depends on the style. It seems to like castor oil when I wear flat twists under my wig, but castor oil is too heavy and greasy when my hair is out. It doesn't mind grapeseed oil when my hair is out, but I'm not sure the grapeseed oil is actually doing anything. I want to retry avocado oil, but I'm trying hard not to buy anything for awhile.

Maybe the castor oil is primarily hitting the ends when my hair is in flat twists?

 

[Cocoloves]

That's very true, even though we all have similar traits of low porosity, LOC method varies. I did the LCO method for awhile but it made it feel greasy like nothing was being affected. So now I mix it all in a bottle (to get a milky texture) and spray it on. It's working like a charm I guess it's different for everyone because some porosities are lower than others, even though we are all lower than normal? Idk I think I'm making this more confusing lol ^_^

I decided the same thing today. My oils are in my leave-in spray and moisturizer.

 

[divachyk]

Ok -- temps dropped and I'm trying my water / glycerin / water method as I blogged about. It worked in the summer. Let's see if it works for the winter. Report back tonight or tomorrow.

 

[Celesti]

Ok -- temps dropped and I'm trying my water / glycerin / water method as I blogged about. It worked in the summer. Let's see if it works for the winter. Report back tonight or tomorrow.

I've been wondering the same thing! I've used glycerin all summer, and it was causing my twist outs to revert back to it's coily state. So hopefully we both have success

 

[Celesti]

Even though it's a cooler, my hair didn't last for the short trip from home, to 1 class, and back. This glycerin is really something else lol.

 

[Evolving78]

I think whether and what oil my hair likes depends on the style. It seems to like castor oil when I wear flat twists under my wig, but castor oil is too heavy and greasy when my hair is out. It doesn't mind grapeseed oil when my hair is out, but I'm not sure the grapeseed oil is actually doing anything. I want to retry avocado oil, but I'm trying hard not to buy anything for awhile.

Maybe the castor oil is primarily hitting the ends when my hair is in flat twists?

I used some jbco on my scalp edges and sealed with vco and jbco on my hair and ends.I like how it feels. Its heavy, but I am Bunning it right now. I need some tresemme naturals moisture conditioner to cowash with.I'm trying to let my color last longer and I plan on exercising. For my next wash, I'm going to do a medium protein treatment. My ends look good, but I don't like what my hair looks like when wet. I think it just looks thin from all of the postpartum shedding and the meds I was taking for hormones. I feel good about my little bun today. I don't plan on moisturizing tomorrow.

 

[faithVA]

I bought a sample of some Hazelnut oil. I think someone in this thread recommended it. It felt very light on my hands, even lighter than sunflower oil. I have given up on oils but I am going to try this one. Even if it doesn't feel greasy I have to make sure it doesn't cause my hair to feel drier or harder.

 

[divachyk]

faithVA, I've never tried hazelnut or almond. I was always afraid it would break me because of the nut based oil. My logic makes no sense because I'm using argan without issues. Do report back.

Ok -- temps dropped and I'm trying my water / glycerin / water method as I blogged about. It worked in the summer. Let's see if it works for the winter. Report back tonight or tomorrow.

I've been wondering the same thing! I've used glycerin all summer, and it was causing my twist outs to revert back to it's coily state. So hopefully we both have success

Even though it's a cooler, my hair didn't last for the short trip from home, to 1 class, and back. This glycerin is really something else lol.

Celesti & Others - my glycerin method worked. My hair felt nice and moisturized by the end of the night. I even went walking (for excercise) out in the cooler, windy temps. I spritz with water, add glycerin product, spritz with more water and seal. Try that Celesti and let me know what you think.

 

[faithVA]

faithVA, I've never tried hazelnut or almond. I was always afraid it would break me because of the nut based oil. My logic makes no sense because I'm using argan without issues. Do report back.

I definitely will. I also purchased some other ingredients from Ingredients To Die For. I will update everyone on those when I try them out. I purchased

--Vegemoist
--Marshmallow Moisture Balm
--Organicals Dew Drops
and Organicals Moisture Lock (something like that )

I think I will try the vegemoist on wash day Monday.

 

[Celesti]

faithVA, I've never tried hazelnut or almond. I was always afraid it would break me because of the nut based oil. My logic makes no sense because I'm using argan without issues. Do report back. Celesti & Others - my glycerin method worked. My hair felt nice and moisturized by the end of the night. I even went walking (for excercise) out in the cooler, windy temps. I spritz with water, add glycerin product, spritz with more water and seal. Try that Celesti and let me know what you think.

My hair is staying moisturized, just my styles aren't lasting lol. I guess even though it's cold, the humidity is still making my hair draw up and revert lol what a shame ^_^

 

[divachyk]

Celesti, that's weird. I would think the style would last if the hair remained moisturized. I learned something new.

 

[Celesti]

Celesti, that's weird. I would think the style would last if the hair remained moisturized. I learned something new.

Well I can't say I know for sure why, but I do live in a coastal area. And humidity is a beast. But maybe with glycerin combined, it's even more disastrous to my hair.

 

[divachyk]

Well I can't say I know for sure why, but I do live in a coastal area. And humidity is a beast. But maybe with glycerin combined, it's even more disastrous to my hair.

Celesti, I'm in a coastal area also. Humidity is crazy.

 

[Celesti]

divachyk you know, I think the sealing part is what I'm missing. Like my hair doesn't need sealing for moisture retention, but maybe to hold styles. And it's funny because the more I think about it, the products I stopped using, like Shea butter, is around the same time my hair stopped holding a twist out lol. I think you're on to something. Thanks for the tip

 

[divachyk]

Sure thing Celesti!

 

[Celesti]

I tried the Shea butter, and it definitely added to the softness, but my hair is still shrinking up. Maybe the dew points are still high even though it's cooler outside :\ Though I don't mind because it will make me stay in my protective styles lol. I just wait until it's definitely winter cold.

 

[divachyk]

Now that temps are cooling, how's the hair holding up. Temps are still decent in FL although they've cooled some. We're still wearing shorts & tshirts so it hasn't cooled all that much.

 

[Evolving78]

Now that temps are cooling, how's the hair holding up. Temps are still decent in FL although they've cooled some. We're still wearing shorts & tshirts so it hasn't cooled all that much.

Its in the 40's- low 60's around here. My hair is holding up, but I need to stop sleeping with conditioner and leaving it in my hair for days. U know I am trying to get it together! Lol

 

[Saludable84]

Now that temps are cooling, how's the hair holding up. Temps are still decent in FL although they've cooled some. We're still wearing shorts & tshirts so it hasn't cooled all that much.

Temps in NY are around 50-60 degrees maybe reaching 70. Because there is no real moisture, the weather actually helps my hair to behave. Fall is my favorite hair season.

 

[faithVA]

It is in the 60s and 70s here. There is definitely less humidity and the air is a bit drier. Fortunately or not, my scalp tells me about the weather before my hair does. My scalp was really dry several weeks ago. I am now oiling my scalp 1x to 2x a day, spritzing and baggying for at least 15 minutes. And I am sleeping with my bonnet. So far so good.

 

[divachyk]

It's mid 80s here with humidity so....

Temps have really dropped in your areas. Keep the hair nicely coated & protected. I'm gonna heavy seal for sure this year. My hair does better with heavy sealing but I just forget to do it because I'm doing 50-11 other things.

shortdub78, sleeping in conditioner may not be all that bad. I use AOWC as a LI and moisturizer. It's really the same difference. Is your hair soaking wet while doing this?

Saludable84, fall is my favorite because that means BF is in the air! Thanks to furlough, it may be a brief shopping season.

faithVA, your scalp, my skin. My skin gets dry with the least change in weather. I stay lathered and slathered in oil & butters during the cold months.

 

[faithVA]

Have any of you lo po ladies tried the Crisco cream? I want to try to make it but not sure if I needed to adapt the recipe any.

The recipe I am looking at calls for
1 Cup crisco
1 tbsp of a butter
3 tbsp of an oil
1/4 Cup of AVG

 

[faithVA]

I've dropped the use of oils for now and switched from LOC to LLC. This seems to work better for me. I am still looking for the right product for my "C" step.

On wash day I used AIA Leave-in and Beautiful Curls Leave-In for step 1. I used 1 on the right and the other on the left. I followed that with Purabody Sapote. Then I used Beautiful Curls Activating Cream as my "C" step. I sealed my ends with grease.

My hair so far is softer and feels more moisturized than with any other combination.

 

[Saludable84]

faithVA

That C step is so hard and for me, it changes seasonally. My SD WGO was great last spring, but this summer my hair laughed at it. My DB Daily Leave-In might have been the winning choice. It's the winning choice in winter too. I haven't tried anything this fall yet, but since its dry I will probably have to take my chance with something cream based rather than water based. I just got two creams that I am determined to try this fall. I'm also rethinking using multi purpose creams/sealers to replace my CO step overall.

When I say dry, I mean the dew points are working my hair favor.

 

[faithVA]

Saludable84;19124313[/USER]]faithVA

That C step is so hard and for me, it changes seasonally. My SD WGO was great last spring, but this summer my hair laughed at it. My DB Daily Leave-In might have been the winning choice. It's the winning choice in winter too. I haven't tried anything this fall yet, but since its dry I will probably have to take my chance with something cream based rather than water based. I just got two creams that I am determined to try this fall. I'm also rethinking using multi purpose creams/sealers to replace my CO step overall.

When I say dry, I mean the dew points are working my hair favor.

I've never had the right products. I am just starting to get there. I think the Qhemet products may work well but I was trying to find something on the ground first. I also wanted something without the glycerin. Glycerin in my leave-in works well but I would like to skip it in my cream.

I'm going to try what I have on hand which is a few things. I will try the crisco mix. If that doesn't work, I will try Camille Rose. Fortunately I have a few options. Layering of the leave-ins seems to work for the short term though

I will be watching the Hair Exchange board for things to try though Want to keep my cost down.

 

[Saludable84]

faithVA,

Try whatever you can until you find the right combination.

As for hair exchange, you have to stalk that board if you want to find something.

 

[uofmpanther]

I am starting to wonder about whether shea butter really works for my hair. I thought it did, but maybe not. I've tried the Oyin whipped pudding, the Oyin Whipped Shea, and Camille Rose Curlaide Moisture Butter and none of them worked for me. All of them have shea in them. My hair also hates Shea Moisture products, with the exception of the Reconstructive Finishing Elixir (light oil) and the Purification Mask. I still have a sample of Oyin Boing, so we will see how that works.

 

[hnntrr]

I have not checked in here in awhile. So *long post ahead*

My hair is doing a lot better. I really need to stay on washing my hair at least twice a week though. Its getting really long. The back is almost mid neck length. I am hopeful for grazing partial SL by JAN. So far my regimen has been going pretty good minus me doing too many days without washing.

My regimen as of now is:
Stand under a steady stream of water and get my hair as wet as it can be.
Part hair in two sections and apply conditioner, then finger comb my hair,
Do that on both sides.
Rinse with hot water.

Put conditioner in again, only not as much as the first time. Shampoo hair with conditioner on it. Rinse REALLY well.

Apply a quarter size of conditioner. Get out shower an let my hair set for a minute. Then plop my hair for 5-10 minutes with a cotton t shirt. If I am DCing that day I do the same thing plus DCing after my plop and green housing for 4-8 hours.

Today I used my new denman brush in addition to finger combing, so I finger combed first then went through it with the brush. Worked out really well. My roots were not as poofy and honestly it felt like conditioner spread more evenly doing it that way than finger combing it. We will see how much it separated the curls. The back looked normal from what I could tell but my crown looked a little more frizzy than usual. But that is where the color is applied so we will see how that turns out. It feels like it stretched my curls a bit, but when I rinsed my hair again it formed up like it usually does. Hopefully I will be able to start using the brush as part of my regimen. Hopefully constant use of it does not pull my curls out too much. Gonna have to experiment with how often to use it.

Here is my brush after just being used for the first time. I don't think that is a bad amount of shed hair for 4 days + only having primarily finger combed my hair for 7 months.

I think this regimen is really working. I don't remember who it was who suggested low po people shampoo more often but you were a god send. I can def see the difference between my hair with product build up and how that affects it taking in moisture and shampooing with a light sulphate really helps. The only downside is, the shampoo that my hair LOVES is too expensive so I have to try and find another one :\. But my hair has really be thriving.

P.S: If anyone knows of any shampoo's that could be comparable to LUSH's Blousy let me know. Here is the ingredient list. So far the other shampoo's I have used have been to hard and stripped my hair too much, so I use them as clarifying shampoo's but I really want something I can use on the regular basis like the LUSH.

BLOUSY SHAMPOO: Fair Trade Cloves and Star Anise decoction (Pimenta officinalis, Eugenia caryophyllus and Illicium verum) , Fresh Organic Bananas (Musa paradisica) , Pimento Berry , Ammonium Laureth Sulfate , Glycerine , Propylene Glycol , Cocoa Butter (Theobroma cacao) , Soya Lecithin , Lauryl Betaine , Cocamide MEA , Cupuacu Butter (Theobroma grandiflorum) , Rose Oil (Rosa damascena) , Blackcurrant Absolute (Ribes Nigrum) , Thyme Oil (Thymus vulgaris) , Rosemary Oil (Rosmarinus officinalis) , Juniperberry Oil (Juniperus communis) , *Geraniol , *Limonene , *Linalool , Citronellol , Fragrance ,

 

[uofmpanther]

I am starting to wonder about whether shea butter really works for my hair. I thought it did, but maybe not. I've tried the Oyin whipped pudding, the Oyin Whipped Shea, and Camille Rose Curlaide Moisture Butter and none of them worked for me. All of them have shea in them. My hair also hates Shea Moisture products, with the exception of the Reconstructive Finishing Elixir (light oil) and the Purification Mask. I still have a sample of Oyin Boing, so we will see how that works.

I may have jumped to conclusions too fast on the shea butter. I think the issue is water content. My hair loves water, so it loves products with lots of water in them and products that still allow me to use my oil and water daily spritz. The Oyin whipped pudding, the Oyin Whipped Shea, and Camille Rose Curlaide Moisture don't get me enough water. I can still get water in with the Reconstructive Finishing Elixir and the KBB hydrating hair cream. I think this why my hair likes the camille rose almond jai and the purabody murumuru, which seem to have a lot of water.