Keratin Treatment Support Thread

[keepithealthy]

Hello ladies I was directed to this thread via another post. I have never bkt'd. I was wondering if any of you ladies had tried Organix Brazilian Keratin Therapy 30 Day Smoothing Treatment. I saw it in Walgreens the other day. I want to use something that will help me to keep my hair straight for a few weeks. Thank you

 

[Dak]

Hey Ladies,

After going nearly a year w/o another treatment, I BKT'd my hair yesterday using QOD Max. I wear my hair flat ironed and it had begun to tangle in the back, I was afraid of getting breakage from having to detangle.

I had forgotten how nice it is, how it weights the hair down and has such nice movement. Now I'm all set for summer!

Keepithealthy, I've not used that brand, I googled it, there are quite a few reviews on Amazon, http://www.amazon.com/Organix-Brazi...iewpoints=1&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending. Someone there posted the instructions, If you go with it, I would recommend not using 450 degrees, I'd try closer to 400, or maybe just under.

There's something about it, IDK, I wouldn't put it in my hair.

 

[Theresamonet]

Those of you who have used bkt on transitioning hair, how are you results?

I have texlaxed ends and 4a/b roots, what should I expect?

 

[keepithealthy]

Hey Ladies,

After going nearly a year w/o another treatment, I BKT'd my hair yesterday using QOD Max. I wear my hair flat ironed and it had begun to tangle in the back, I was afraid of getting breakage from having to detangle.

I had forgotten how nice it is, how it weights the hair down and has such nice movement. Now I'm all set for summer!

Keepithealthy, I've not used that brand, I googled it, there are quite a few reviews on Amazon, http://www.amazon.com/Organix-Brazi...iewpoints=1&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending. Someone there posted the instructions, If you go with it, I would recommend not using 450 degrees, I'd try closer to 400, or maybe just under.

There's something about it, IDK, I wouldn't put it in my hair.

Thank you. Yeah I'm undecided on whether I want to use it or not.

 

[Bun Mistress]

- did the !'( On my hair at the end of year 2 of my transition. The person who did it use too much heat and a lot of treat (like double the amount) and my hair went from 4B to 2A. Not kidding I have a thread somewhere about it. I had a lot of split ends after the treatment and cut about 2 in off afterwards. The treat still hasn't worn. off. This is .ay and I had this done in October of 2010. It is washing out but there is still an obvious difference. Thee bkt'ed hair is about 3C. It was nice that I could roller set my hair straight. I was tempted to re do it was was afraid of heat damage. I have very fine hair with medium porosity. Still transitioning.

 

[Theresamonet]

@Bun mistress Wow, it hasn't worn off yet! I'm not sure if I want mine to last that long, and I def don't want the splits, so I'll be using the product as directed.

Was your natural hair and relaxed ends two different textures after the bkt? If so, how did that look?

 

[Bun Mistress]

@Bun mistress Wow, it hasn't worn off yet! I'm not sure if I want mine to last that long, and I def don't want the splits, so I'll be using the product as directed.

Was your natural hair and relaxed ends two different textures after the bkt? If so, how did that look?

Well right after the treatment even after I washed my hair was almost cmpletely straight. The different textures became more noticable and I just roller set my hair. No I'm back to braiding it and curling the ends.

 

[cheryl26]

kaytorry and MarieB- i used the coppola keratin complex smoothing treatment. i washed my hair with neutrogena anti-residue shampoo, blow dried it, put about 4oz of treatment on it, sit for 30 mins, blow dried again, and flat ironed but only 4-5 swipes on little sections. Then I left it that way for about 2 1/2 days and washed it out using hercut. I've been alternating hercut and rusk keratin shampoos and anything without sodium chloride. It didn't change my curl pattern and barely reduced frizziness but it was easier to flat iron after. Maybe it was a fake since I got it on ebay, IDK.

 

[kaytorry]

I am currently looking into trying a BKT (preferably formaldehyde free) for transitioning, calming down frizz, and loosening curls, I am currently texlaxed 3c. I want something strong enough to do what I mentioned above, but not so strong that it will not revert after time. Does anyone have any suggestions?

I have been examining the following BKTs, but have come up short in the review/research department. Anyone tried these?

Unnique Amino Keratin Treatment Kit Formaldehyde Free
http://www.unnique.com/en/products/keratintreatment/unniqueamino

Salerm Keratin Shot Kit
http://www.justbeautyproducts.com/proddetail.cfm?ItemID=1296


Marcia Teixeira Soft Chocolate Treatment Gentle Smoothing Formula
http://braziliankeratin.com/blog/soft-treatment/

 

[kaytorry]

bumping....oke:

 

[Vintageglam]

kaytorry and MarieB- i used the coppola keratin complex smoothing treatment. i washed my hair with neutrogena anti-residue shampoo, blow dried it, put about 4oz of treatment on it, sit for 30 mins, blow dried again, and flat ironed but only 4-5 swipes on little sections. Then I left it that way for about 2 1/2 days and washed it out using hercut. I've been alternating hercut and rusk keratin shampoos and anything without sodium chloride. It didn't change my curl pattern and barely reduced frizziness but it was easier to flat iron after. Maybe it was a fake since I got it on ebay, IDK.

That is a lot of BKT for one application. Do you think that was the culprit?

 

[R4L]

I just got my first BKT today, after buying a living social deal for $115. Based on my hair's length, it would have been about $220 full retail price. They used Coppola. The place was large and well ventilated. Neither I nor the stylist ever had any issues with fumes. They also offered a Brazilian blowout for the same price under the deal. When talking to the stylist she said that the biggest advantage was with the blowout you walk out with it ready to go. Me on the other hand, I can't bend my hair for 72 hours.

Based on the questions I asked, she said, wow, you really did research this before you got it done.

Part way through she mentioned that she wished she had taken before and after pics of my hair b/c the change was so dramatic. When I walked in I had my corkscrew curls down with cantu leave in to tame the frizzies. The only downside to having my hair stick straight is that I ended up getting about 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch trimmed. I had no idea how chewed up my ends were. It looked MUCH better after the trim.

 

[EbbonyTx]

Hello ladies I was directed to this thread via another post. I have never bkt'd. I was wondering if any of you ladies had tried Organix Brazilian Keratin Therapy 30 Day Smoothing Treatment. I saw it in Walgreens the other day. I want to use something that will help me to keep my hair straight for a few weeks. Thank you

Wondering The Same Thing! I Bought It Already & I'm Itching To Do It....But I Just Want It To Be Temporary---It Does Say 30 Days.

I Love My Curls But I Would Love To See This New Head Of Natural HEALTHY Hair Straight For A Few Weeks. Does Any One Think There Would Be Problems With Reversion With This Particular Brand Of BKT??

It Says It Is Formaldehyde-Free...

Ingredients:

Aqua (Water) (DI water), Oxoacetamide, Carbocysteine, Oxoacetamide Amino Acids, Polyquaternium 67, Behentrimonium Chloride, PEG 90, Shea Butter, Amidopropyltrimonium Chloride, Shea Butter (Butyrospermum Parkii) Cetyl Esters, Isopropyl Palmitate, Cyclopentasiloxane, Dimethiconol, Dimethicone Crosspolymer, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone, Fragrance, Silanetriol, Panthenol

 

[Theresamonet]

Are you all wearing your hair during the waiting period?

 

[Dak]

Are you all wearing your hair during the waiting period?

My hair is too long to wear it down for 3 days straight. Detangling would still be a mess.

At least with the QOD Max, I twist it on top of my head in a bun at night, no weird indentations so far.

 

[cheryl26]

not picture worthy

 

[Vintageglam]

^^^ your hair looks curlier with the treatment which kinds makes sense bc BKT does not release curl IMHO just the kink.

 

[Napp]

Are you all wearing your hair during the waiting period?

ive just been wearing it in a ponytail or loose.

 

[cheryl26]

^^^ your hair looks curlier with the treatment which kinds makes sense bc BKT does not release curl IMHO just the kink.

ahhhh i thought it weighed it down and made it straighter. well it did get rid of poofiness i guess

 

[winona]

Hi Everyone,

I am on page 101 of the BKT thread only 98 more pages to go. I cant wait until my BKT gets here today. It is at my local processing center. Anywho, let me get to my question. I want to use a red cellophane before I BKT today, but I also wanted to use 20%developer in my poo to ensure that I get a good bonding. BTW this is my first BKT
I am 4b/4a natural with semi-jet black colored hair(as of last week). My hair is pretty healthy. Thank you ladies. Now back to page 102

 

[winona]

I am soooo tired. I just completed my first BKT and it was easier than I thought it would be I used Soft Liss (strawberry) I will rinse and give more details tomorrow. Thank you all for this wealth of knowledge

 

[winona]

This past week I have concentrating on maintaining my moisture/protein balance and reading 124pages of BKT Thread Yesterday morning in preparation for my BKT I colored on dry hair with Colorshowers/20% Developer(2/1 ratio) mix. Rinsed in the shower then applied Miss Keys 10en1 seal with body oil (did not rinse). I placed my hair in a banana clip bun and ran errands. When I came home I set all the supplies I would need for the BKT (blow dryer, flat irons, ect) up. I then proceeded to part my hair in 8 sections(3 each side and 2 in the middle) which I twisted and tucked awaiting my package. When I received my package I took out all the items (I purchased a 8oz kit(StrawberrY)) I read the directions carefully. I completed step 1 (poo) without the feeling of stripped hair. The poo actually detangled my hair somewhat. I used my Hercules seamless pin tail comb to apply Step 2 (keratin) and smooth. The sections really made my hair so much more manageable. I completed the blow without any issues. I was actually concerned about this because I have only blow dried my hair on 2 other occasion that ended in a LESS than desirable result. I did not experience much (about a quarter sized) breakage. I flat ironed on approx. 420. This was actually my first successful flat iron. I contribute this dontspeakdefeat tutorial and really taking my time. Thank You I set up with a chair to blowdry and flatiron only getting up when doing the edges. This helped me not to be physically tired from the whole process. I then trimmed the last 1in of hair because I only plan to flat iron when doing BKTs. I put on a silk scarf and went to bed because it was already after midnight. I couldnt wait until thursday. This morning I rinsed with warm water (I just couldnt do cold this d@mn early). My hair only slightly waved in the shower. I towel dried and applied Step 3 as I type this up for future BKTers. As I feel my hair it is starting to wave up more. After rinsing in the shower I applied my Miss Keys 10en1 just I feel I need a moisturizing condiitoner after all this PIBBS at 50 for 30min and rinse. Apply Aussie Moist and seal with my Argan Oil mix (Argan/Rice Bran/Castor Oils).

I did not take any pics last night I was tooo excited.

Take aways: I need a new blow dryer and flat iron

BTW My hair was pretty healthy to start with. I have really been concentrating on health to get to my length goals since getting serious in Jan 10. My problem was with SSKs not really many splits

Sorry for taking so much time but I wanted to be thorough

 

[subrina2]

Hi everyone - I'm new to LHCF, but I have been doing a lot of research on here and all over the internet.

I am deathly afraid of getting a Keratin Treatment but my salon says it will be better for my hair than a relaxer. I live in Arizona and its sooooooooo DRY here!! With that being said, the relaxer normally dries my hair out and it super sensitive and sheds like crazy. So I wanted to find an alternative and my salon told me about KeraSmooth. I have looked on the BioIonic website, seen YouTube videos, heard horror stories and some good ones too and I don't know if it will be a good fit for me. I will be coming straight out of a full weave. I have been wearing the weaves for about 2 years. I haven't had a relaxer around my edges for about a year and I haven't had a full head relaxer in about 2 years as well.

What do you educated ladies think? I know there's no way to tell how my hair will respond, but to give some background information about my hair, its really thick, and I have a lot of it. I want something to tame it without breaking down my hair that I have been working so hard to grow.

Help!

CeCe

 

[healthytext]

I ended up applying QOD Gold over the Reallisse for more volume reduction. It's been a while since I've done these treatments and I'm surprised how many shampoos have sodium chloride in 'em.

 

[candycan]

I just had the Salerm Keratin Shot done last thursday at EddieJr's Salon in Manhattan 107 & Madison they are running a special until 5/31 st for $125! My natural hair turned out perfectly pin straight. And it was sooooo humid this past weekend it is now Tuesday 5 days later and it's still straight with only doing minor touch ups with a flat iron in between! (got caught in rain yesterday!) I highly recommend. Con: Maintenance products i.e., shampoo condish and serum very $$$$$! oh and if you go to Eddie's tell them Candy sent you!

 

[R4L]

Are you all wearing your hair during the waiting period?

I wore mine out for the most part. I did brush it straight back so it would be out of my face when I was at home, but I also scheduled it so that I wasn't doing anything crazy active or crazy fancy, or anything that would make me need to have it up for a long time.

I've had it for a few weeks now, and I can get my hair wavy straight, but not stick straight by air drying it pulled back in a bun with a scarf on it. Previously that would have gotten my hair straight-ish, but I would have needed to flat iron it before leaving home. Now I would go out in public [not to a formal event, but to the farmer's market and running errands presentable] with it after air drying and it's reasonably straight.

 

[Jaffa]

Hi everyone - I'm new to LHCF, but I have been doing a lot of research on here and all over the internet.

I am deathly afraid of getting a Keratin Treatment but my salon says it will be better for my hair than a relaxer. I live in Arizona and its sooooooooo DRY here!! With that being said, the relaxer normally dries my hair out and it super sensitive and sheds like crazy. So I wanted to find an alternative and my salon told me about KeraSmooth. I have looked on the BioIonic website, seen YouTube videos, heard horror stories and some good ones too and I don't know if it will be a good fit for me. I will be coming straight out of a full weave. I have been wearing the weaves for about 2 years. I haven't had a relaxer around my edges for about a year and I haven't had a full head relaxer in about 2 years as well.

What do you educated ladies think? I know there's no way to tell how my hair will respond, but to give some background information about my hair, its really thick, and I have a lot of it. I want something to tame it without breaking down my hair that I have been working so hard to grow.

Help!

CeCe

Hi Subrina2 and welcome

I've only recently had a BKT after researching it last year but it has been a really good experience - I love my BKT hair.
I have thick 4a/b natural hair and the results have been easier to detangle, get dry and straighten. There are different experiences for the BKT but overall most are positive. There will always be negative effects but that can be said about anything in life. If you are already relaxing your hair then the BKT will definately be an improvement over the relaxer chemicals and if you dont like it you can always reverse it/strip it out of your hair.
I would just do your research on the type of products and how good the salon has been with your type of hair.
Over here in the UK, BKT is now being offered in loads of salons but the products used are not neccessarily suitable for all types of hair which will then have an impact on your results.
Overall I am happy with my first BKT experience and would recommend it to others.

 

[GodsPromises]

Hello ladies I was directed to this thread via another post. I have never bkt'd. I was wondering if any of you ladies had tried Organix Brazilian Keratin Therapy 30 Day Smoothing Treatment. I saw it in Walgreens the other day. I want to use something that will help me to keep my hair straight for a few weeks. Thank you

keepithealthy I used it a couple of weeks ago. I don't have pictures as I didn't think about taking them at the time. I will try to take them the next time I do the treatment. So far I am happy with the results. I am natural 4a/4b. I wanted to be able to wear my hair straight but I also wanted to not have so much shrinkage when I wear twist outs/W&Gs.

I did the treatment on a Friday when I had no where to go on Saturday and I followed the instructions exactly. The next time I will not use as much heat. I did let my hair hand down on Saturday not for Sunday I needed a little bounce so I did pin curls even though I wasn't suppose to do anything until Sunday.

Sunday night I washed and conditioned my hair, my hair was straight not as curly as normal. I didn't want to put any heat on my hair so I did twist outs, buns and braid outs. This weekend I flat ironed and pin curled my hair. For the first time my hair is still straight two day later and haven't reverted.

I will do the treatment again before I get too excited but right now I'm happy with the results.

 

[keepithealthy]

GodsPromises Thank you so much for your review! Please keep me updated on how this treatment works out on your hair. I really appreciate your review.

 

[Dellas]

http://www.verticalsinhair.com/index.php?option=com_joobb&view=topic&topic=3935&Itemid=83

Steve Tcherkezian on Tuesday, 08.June 2010 08:10 PM

Hi Zelda,

Thank you for posting. This way, it gives a chance for others with similar BKT issues to read and educate themselves and be aware.

As I briefly explained to you via email regarding losing a lot of hair, I think that you need to give yourself some time. If you did not feel the heat of the iron during the BKT procedure, then you shouldn’t be worrying. My other concern is if the BKT stylist was sloppy during the BKT solution application and if the BKT solution had seeped onto the scalp, it will clog the pores. The solution must NOT be applied to the scalp or touch the scalp. Some of the BKT ingredients, such as Formaldehyde must not be applied on the scalp. Also, other BKT ingredients, such as cyclopentasiloxane should not touch the scalp because they often leave a waxy film on the scalp. Coatings on the scalp have negative effects on the scalp which can lead or create a barrier that inhibits and restrains the scalp from releasing moisture and perspiration. As a result, these body fluids cannot properly evaporate and become concentrated, creating a condition at the scalp which is conducive to hair loss.

A lot depends on the stylist’s ironing skills. If the BKT stylist doesn’t have good ironing skills, it will cause severe damage to the hair and eventually you’ll experience hair breakage. Keep in mind that sometimes anxiety or tension, menstruation, medication have adverse effect on the hair follicle and can cause the hair to fall abnormally. And please do not confuse hair loss with hair breakage. To learn more, please click on the following link http://www.verticalsinhair.com/inde...ent&view=category&layout=blog&id=87&Itemid=58

Problem/Solution - First we need to cleanse the scalp. I recommend you use Redken’s Hair Cleansing Cream Shampoo. Instructions for use:

Shampoo, rinse with warm water... as warm as you can tolerate. Shampoo again and leave the second lather on the hair. Cover with plastic cover air-tight. Apply heat of a blow dryer for 3-5 minutes. Leave in for 10 minutes, rinse. Re-shampoo with Redken’s Hair Cleansing Cream Shampoo. Once again, water temperature as warm as possible. Finally, shampoo your hair with Redken’s TIME RESET Shampoo. Now gently towel blot your hair and use TIME RESET Treatment. Follow the instructions on the tube. Finish with TIME RESET Conditioner. Apply leave-in ID.CARE Heat Silk Lotion. And now your scalp should feel nice and clean and your hair nice and soft. For further detailed instructions, please click on the following link on m website http://www.verticalsinhair.com/inde...ent&view=category&layout=blog&id=63&Itemid=64

Now that we know the scalp had been thoroughly cleansed, the next step is to wait one week and observe if your hair loss has been “reduced”. If all is good then good job, good for you, and you’re on Safe Street. However, if you are still experiencing the “same” amount of hair loss, then my advice is to see your doctor. He or she might refer you to see a dermatologist.

With regards to sodium chloride, I can tell you Redken shampoos contain sodium chloride, but I wouldn’t worry. Besides, ALL of the sodium chloride-free shampoos manufactured by the BKT manufacturing companies are a piece of junk. Manufacturers of the Brazilian BKT brain wash stylists and the majorities of stylists buy into it. They THINK that if the client uses shampoos that contain sodium chloride, the hair will or might revert back. That is not true. I can tell you stylists that understand the science behind their art, do not buy into it.

To be perfectly honest manufacturers made a big deal about the sodium chloride thing. My guess is BKT and other companies started the "no sulfates" story with sodium lauryl sulphate and poor old sodium chloride just got lumped in. It's used in small concentrations in some shampoos as a viscosity thickener, and considering we eat it as table salt, I don't think it can be that bad. Maybe a very high concentration of salt water might effect/revert a curl pattern in the hair but not from a shampoo, unless I'm missing something.

With regards to Nioxin and vitamins, sorry, but I cannot comment because I am not in the field of giving advice on the matter. I can tell you though that you are pushing the envelope and prematurely assuming things and wasting your money. As far as volume is concerned, once again these products coat the hair. ID.CARE Heat silk Lotion is a heat protector, it also helps give the hair a little body and that’s all you need. Otherwise, keep it simple and follow the prescriptive hair care products that I recommended and let me know in a week or two.