Keratin Treatment Support Thread

MarieB said:
First of all, welcome to the forum! At the bolded: we come in all shades and hair textures here so don't think people won't/can't relate :yep:.

So far I like Global the best out of the varieties I've tried, but I am interested in trying QOD and Rejuvenol. You might want to PM some of the ladies who post here often. Dove 56 is one of our more seasoned veterans, so I hope she doesn't mind me calling her out! I've been doing them for just over a year, and my hair seems to love it!
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Thanks much! The "very little color" was a little tongue in cheek, and every woman can relate to the quest for perfect hair. As a makeup artist, every woman who is touched by my brushes wants something that someone else has - whether it be straight/curly/long/short hair, smoother/drier/more dewy skin, taller/shorter, and on and on...

I do appreciate it and I'll be blowing through my last couple of ounces of Coppola, then it's on to the next product!
 
FYI

Softliss is good for TWO YEARS after the seal has been opened. It has been previously stated that it was only good for one.

You can wait 24 hours before flatironing the hair and rinsing the mask out ~ I thought it was mandatory that it be performed within an hour.
 
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I don't know how many of us are in Atlanta but there is a deal on Groupon for a $99 Keratin Treatment at Dragonfly Salon. The Groupon must be purchased today but you have up to a year to actually get the treatment at the salon. Here is the link for more details.

I didn't see any info on which treatment they are using but there is a discussion thread where some questions have already been asked. I'm sure they will start answering questions after they open in a few hours.
 
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Black Ambrosia said:
I don't know how many of us are in Atlanta but there is a deal on Groupon for a $99 Keratin Treatment at Dragonfly Salon. The Groupon must be purchased today but you have up to a year to actually get the treatment at the salon. Here is the link for more details.

I didn't see any info on which treatment they are using but there is a discussion thread where some questions have already been asked. I'm sure they will start answering questions after they open in a few hours.
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I get groupon. I saw that.
 
I think that it is time for me to go back to my beloved bkt. For the past two months I have watched the encanto gradually wear off on my hair. Its a very slow process except for the back. I like that it keeps my hair straighter for longer but that silky texture wears off too quickly. Actually, it is still on my texlaxed ends but overall it looks like I have normal hair again. So what is keeping you all's hair feeling silky the longest?
 
I finally did the bkt. I ordered the Original Keratin brand treatment ages ago and just forgot about it until this humidity in Chicago started making my hair crazy. I would have taken before pics if I had known it would work so well. I'm trying to see if I can find some recent pics of my pre-BKT lenght hair so I can post comparison shots.
 
I have a question. What about product build up.. other than BKT. Oils, conditioners and such. How does one clarify? Is regular clarifying shampoo safe, or is there a good clarifying shampoo without the sodium?
 
I've found that with my BKT, that I don't need to clarify. I'm not having to be heavy handed with products, so I'm not getting much build-up. If my hair (scalp) feels especially dirty, I'll shampoo 3 or even 4 times, then deep condition with my heat cap.

I haven't tried it yet (I'm making myself finish what I own now) but KeraCare looks good:

KeraCare 1st Lather Shampoo deep cleans and is designed for use prior to a conditioning shampoo. It produces a rich lather to cleanse hair of oils, dirt and styling products, without stripping the hair. Beautifully prepares hair for a second sudsing with a conditioning shampoo. Very economical to use. Contains no sodium stearate (soap), like most creme shampoos, which promotes dryness and leaves a dulling film.
 
^^ thank you.
I will need to monitor how much of product I will need, it will most likely be different than I have in the past. I have the QOD Max on my hair now.
 
loveisnthehouse said:
I have a question. What about product build up.. other than BKT. Oils, conditioners and such. How does one clarify? Is regular clarifying shampoo safe, or is there a good clarifying shampoo without the sodium?
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I use regular clarifying poo as needed. I prefer ORS Aloe but there are some sulfate free clarifying poos mentioned here.
 
Dak said:
I've found that with my BKT, that I don't need to clarify. I'm not having to be heavy handed with products, so I'm not getting much build-up. If my hair (scalp) feels especially dirty, I'll shampoo 3 or even 4 times, then deep condition with my heat cap.
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Agree 100% with the bolded. I don't usually need to clarify at all until it's time for the next henna or BKT.

As Sheba once said, BKT hair is very easy to deal with...it doesn't get build-up, doesn't get damaged, isn't dry or thirsty...it just grows long, thick and healthy!

Now that I'm using Living Proof No Frizz cream as my styling aid instead of Sabino, I get no build-up whatsoever. If I need to clarify in the future, I'll use my regular Elucence Volume Clarifying poo; it's very gentle.
 
I bkt'd about hmmm, 2 weeks ago, and I'm experiencing major shedding.

What gives?
This happened to me a year ago as well when i did bkt #1.
(I have not been shedding at all since the bkt wore off.)

Did I wait too long to wash? Well, today is my first day shampooing. I'm using the OCT line. I'm gonna leave the Cell Therapy in overnight and wet bun tomorrow.

Any advice is appreciated.
 
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hey ladies just checking in. i had my 2nd bkt done in may (global keratin 2%)...it hasn't totally worn off but now i have "new growth" that is out of this world. my hair feels like it is transitioning out of a relaxer again and i don't like it at all. i'm kind of at a crossroads with the whole thing. i love the ease the bkt gives and how it loosens my texture, but i don't like feeling like i am now a slave to another procedure like i was to the relaxer. now looking at my growth rate, to avoid the very visible new growth and possible demarcation breakage issues i'm thinking about letting the bkt go. i would have to get it done about every 8 weeks otherwise.

have any of you 4a's run into this issue?
 
kriolagirl said:
hey ladies just checking in. i had my 2nd bkt done in may (global keratin 2%)...it hasn't totally worn off but now i have "new growth" that is out of this world. my hair feels like it is transitioning out of a relaxer again and i don't like it at all. i'm kind of at a crossroads with the whole thing. i love the ease the bkt gives and how it loosens my texture, but i don't like feeling like i am now a slave to another procedure like i was to the relaxer. now looking at my growth rate, to avoid the very visible new growth and possible demarcation breakage issues i'm thinking about letting the bkt go. i would have to get it done about every 8 weeks otherwise.

have any of you 4a's run into this issue?
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I was wondering if that would happen "demarcation breakage issues" just like growing out a relaxer. Has anyone experienced this or does everyone just keep up with their BKT's?
 
kriolagirl said:
hey ladies just checking in. i had my 2nd bkt done in may (global keratin 2%)...it hasn't totally worn off but now i have "new growth" that is out of this world. my hair feels like it is transitioning out of a relaxer again and i don't like it at all. i'm kind of at a crossroads with the whole thing. i love the ease the bkt gives and how it loosens my texture, but i don't like feeling like i am now a slave to another procedure like i was to the relaxer. now looking at my growth rate, to avoid the very visible new growth and possible demarcation breakage issues i'm thinking about letting the bkt go. i would have to get it done about every 8 weeks otherwise.

have any of you 4a's run into this issue?
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As my new growth started to come in, I became very worried about the line of demarcation...would I have to baby it, would it start breaking. And you know what? I haven't experienced ANY problems or breakage...not a single strand.

Also, keep in mind that the way BKT works is different than a relaxer. As your NG comes in at the roots, your BKT should start wearing off on the length, and the two textures will "meet in the middle" sometime around month 3. Since BKT doesn't permanently straighten the hair, there shouldn't be a serious demarcation issue.

For reference, I did my first BKT in January, second in June, third in July. I'm a 4 a/b.
 
kriolagirl said:
hey ladies just checking in. i had my 2nd bkt done in may (global keratin 2%)...it hasn't totally worn off but now i have "new growth" that is out of this world. my hair feels like it is transitioning out of a relaxer again and i don't like it at all. i'm kind of at a crossroads with the whole thing. i love the ease the bkt gives and how it loosens my texture, but i don't like feeling like i am now a slave to another procedure like i was to the relaxer. now looking at my growth rate, to avoid the very visible new growth and possible demarcation breakage issues i'm thinking about letting the bkt go. i would have to get it done about every 8 weeks otherwise.

have any of you 4a's run into this issue?
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My aunt experienced this even though she is relaxed. Her hair stayed so straight compared to the new growth. This caused her some breakage. It has happened more than once and with different BKT brands. So for her she would have to keep it up more often. She kinda hates how long it takes to do so she just endured it till it wore off some.
 
mstar said:
As my new growth started to come in, I became very worried about the line of demarcation...would I have to baby it, would it start breaking. And you know what? I haven't experienced ANY problems or breakage...not a single strand.

Also, keep in mind that the way BKT works is different than a relaxer. As your NG comes in at the roots, your BKT should start wearing off on the length, and the two textures will "meet in the middle" sometime around month 3. Since BKT doesn't permanently straighten the hair, there shouldn't be a serious demarcation issue.

For reference, I did my first BKT in January, second in June, third in July. I'm a 4 a/b.
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I completely agree with this post. The so called "demarcation line" is very, very subtle to non-existent. The different textures within each strand very gradually merge from tightly coiled at the roots to loose curls at the end. I've had no issues with that, so far, and I've been transitioning/mini-chopping with BKT since Nov. 2009. I have hardly any relaxed ends now, and my "natural" 4a hair just LOVES BKT (jury still out on my 4b sections).
 
dany06 said:
My aunt experienced this even though she is relaxed. Her hair stayed so straight compared to the new growth. This caused her some breakage. It has happened more than once and with different BKT brands. So for her she would have to keep it up more often. She kinda hates how long it takes to do so she just endured it till it wore off some.
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I think your aunt experienced this because she is relaxed. After the BKT wore off, she was still left with natural NG and relaxed ends, so she experienced the classic relaxer demarcation breakage.

I should've added that I'm natural, so that scenario doesn't apply to me.
 
The breakage issue never happened to me. Not even a little. Its been since May 28th since I last did it and it still hasnt worn off. The first time it wore off I had some of my texlaxed curls come back. I guess because I redid it a month later it just doesnt want to go away. I have no curls on my ends. I have some straightish fuzz and that is about it. I dont know if it is heat damage or what. I dont think that it is. The more time passes by without me redoing it the more I get my texture back. If I ever get my full texture back, I'll wait to do this again when I want to commit some time to straight hair or when Im fully natural.

i will gladly go back to doing it again if I had a big bottle of it and could do it once a month. I have 6 months of new growth and it just doesnt last that long on my virgin hair. So up keep will be kind of frequent if I do start back.
 
^^I know what you mean about it not lasting long on virgin hair. My second BKT barely lasted 4 weeks on my 6 months of new growth.

That's why I'll be doing henna from now on, before I BKT. The henna helps to loosen my texture, and that seems to make the BKT "take" better on my hair.
 
Br*nzeb*mbsh~ll said:
I bkt'd about hmmm, 2 weeks ago, and I'm experiencing major shedding.

What gives?
This happened to me a year ago as well when i did bkt #1.
(I have not been shedding at all since the bkt wore off.)

Did I wait too long to wash? Well, today is my first day shampooing. I'm using the OCT line. I'm gonna leave the Cell Therapy in overnight and wet bun tomorrow.

Any advice is appreciated.
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Hey Bronze :wave:

After my first BKT application I experienced a lot of shedding. I used Aphogee 2 step and that seemed to get rid of the problem immediately. HTH!
 
I have a quick question. I just did the BKT and my hair feels a little dry. Is it over to put some oil sheen on my hair now while I'm in the three day waiting period?
 
^^ I just got a BKT done yesterday and I go back tomorrow to get it washed out. She told me not to put anything on it in the interim. Somebody else here might have different advice, but I've always been told not to add product or get it wet.

Did you do it yourself?
 
thx for the input ladies! i haven't had any breakage issues, but i definitely plan to keep an eye on it to make sure. i will say that it is mid august and my bkt from may really hasn't worn off...so my prob is that if i try to do a wash and go the two textures are very visible. so now i'm back to twist outs. i do love the bkt but i guess i just don't feel like going through the process to get it as often as it seems i would have to to get the results i want. i clarified my hair today in the hopes that it will start to strip it faster, so we'll see. i want to let it totally wear off before i decide how i'm going to go forward. however this forest on my head may decide for me lol!
 
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Thanks Foxee, for responding. *waves back*

I'll do just that.
I have an entire unopened bottle of Aphogee 2 step that I'll put to use.

mwwwaaahhh
 
I've been transitioning for almost 9 months and the time it takes to shampoo/conditioner, etc. is taking a toll on me. So, I scheduled a consultation at a salon to discuss options. The stylist recommended the BKT...Marcia Teixeira. She explained the process and I scheduled an appt. for next week. I hope my hair loves it.
 
Hey Sheba!!! How are you, honey?

I haven't used Aphogee 2-Step, Foxee, but I did use the 2-minute Aphogee Treatment, and it worked wonders!!

Thanks again~~~
 
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