Jan/Feb 2009 - MT/OCT Challenge Thread

Hey ladies, well I've been using ovation for about a month. I must say my hair has grown and is getting extremely thick. I just received some MT in the mail last week so I will be alternating everyday.
Im trying to find a way to incorporate the oct/mt into my regimen. I co wash daily. Do you think it has any effect on my hair? I feel like I'm not giving it enough time to saturate into my scalp.

I've mixed my MT and OCT together with a little JBCO and a few drops of rosemary oil (sometimes there's vitamin E in there too). I cowash every other day, but sometimes I'll do it daily. I apply my "mix" daily, so I figure it's on my scalp at least 24 hours; it seems to be enough because the NG is coming in like crazy.
 
Do you guys in this challenge feel that more people have used it either one of these as a growth aid than will admit to it? People seem to have such a bad opinion of using a growth aid to help. Just wondering why

I don't have a bad opinion of growth aids because anything that stimulates hair growth can be a growth aid. And many women of all races use something to boost their hair. I can't tell you how many times I walk by the vitamin section and overhear white women say they are going to get some prenatal pills to increase hair growth and get that really long hair. Or one of my Hispanic coworkers admits that she uses Mane 'n' Tail to increase growth. I agree some people don't like the idea of admitting to using food, conditioner, vitamins, etc.. as a growth aid. They would rather believe that they are doing so naturally without it. Some may view it as cheating. :lachen: But even just overall healthy eating & exercise can be a growth aid. Certain foods can be a booster to growth and the overall heath of the hair. I use MT both to boost growth and as my staple protein conditioner. MT doesn't make my hair hard like the over the counter PDC and it smells delicious. For me it's a keeper and my hair is thriving, call me a cheat! :grin:
 
This is what I've been doing Jax. I can't find time to apply any other way so I pre-poo overnight with it and wash out the following morning. Works perfectly for me this way. I still add oils to my hair length in the morning before I shampoo. I use FAST (Fortified Amino Scalp Therapy) shampoo on my scalp often now and I need my ends protected as much as possible from the constant pooing:yep:. I'm currently testing this poo out for hair growth again. This time I want to give it a fair chance to work.

Thanks for sharing Aggie! I think my hair needs more protein - I shall do this 3 times a week to start with, see how it responds. So, do you mix the MT with oil for the overnight pre-poo as well or do you just add oils in the morning?

Girl, you're brave using shampoo so often - my hair goes all brittle and dry with shampoo so I only use if I feel I have buildup - so far so good.

What I need now is a GREAT natural organic DEEP moisturising conditioner. The UK site is out of AO HSR :wallbash::wallbash: and they don't do the white camellia one at all :sad:. I'm off to physically shop for a conditioner today.
 
UMMM Justkiya can you please add me to the list.. Pretty please:look:

:giggle: I added you a couple of days ago, hun.

Vonnieluvs08 - You've been added!

:blush3: I have a confession. I think I've used MT once this year - okay, maybe one week. Maybe. :look: I dunno, I just don't feeeeeelllll like messing with my hair! We aren't even gonna talk about the two week period where I didn't wash or DC my hair - okay, it only ended up being ten days as I broke down and cowashed in the middle of the week because I couldn't take it anymore - I'm just - meh. Not feeling like meddling with my hair. I haven't steamed my hair in over a month - and I was doing it every week, for a while!
And I know, when I don't feel like meddling, it's best to just leave it be, cuz I won't be able gentle/careful with it if I'm just trying to rush through it.
I'm actually tossing around the idea of getting some yarn twists, or something - meh! I don't feel like messing with it! So yeah, I had to fess up. I'm actually considering not using at all, taking my growth shots in March to show the difference (between 3 mnths using/3 months not using) and then start up again. I dunno.
 
Re: Jan 2009 - MT/OCT Challenge Thread

I have garlic pills and have not been using them. Thought shedding would bypass me. I do condition with the Alter Ego garlic shampoo. I have a confession. I drink nothing but soda, no water and I dont take vitamins since I was a little girl. So there you go. Maybe that all has a part to play. Im not gonna give up on these products right now but try to treat my inner health and see how it goes.


That is me too, I am horrible. Yet I am drinking 4 cups of water as I type. In a 32 ounce cup. It helps me think I am only drinking 2 cups. mental thing. Yikes, I am the same way. Lots of soda, NO WATer until recently for years, and what is a Vitamin?

ALL YOU LADIES SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES. I WAS STRONG, I WASN'T GOING TO BUY ANYTHING, NOW I HAVE TO GO BY THIS DARN MEGA-TEK.

Actually I have NO breakage and shed maybe 50 strands in 10 days. Literally my hair is healthy for relaxed hair. My new stylist is funny. She permed someones hair before mine and I looked like ouch. She relaxed my hair and commented out of the whole relax process from beginning to end you lost about 5 hairs, what do you use.

I would love to add some length to it, I waited to exhale and chopped my hair 2 years ago but continue to snip it. I have stopped as of December of 08 from cutting it.

IS MT okay for non shedding hair just for growth stimulation?
 
is this the same ladies as the one that says CELL REBUILDER and one that just says BUilder. are they the same?

 
is this the same ladies as the one that says CELL REBUILDER and one that just says BUilder. are they the same?

I think so - they have changed their labels soooo many times. Blue writing, black label, something about horses on it. :lachen:
 
Okay I want in on the next session; I just ordered mine. YEAH! Yeah, hopefully my scalp will be stimulated. I am excited :grin:

I most likely will use this right now only the day before my wash and the day of. Until summer time where I will wash about 2-3 times a week. right now I wash weekly. So Wish me luck ladies!:rolleyes:
 
I think so - they have changed their labels soooo many times. Blue writing, black label, something about horses on it. :lachen:


THanks, Question: I don't have heavy shedding or any breakage, this should still work for me for growth stimulation right? hopefully
 
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I honestly don't know if I am officially apart of this challenge or not. (if not add me if not too late please :grin:) I've been using MT for about a month now and OCT for the past week. (truth be told some bee mine is thrown up in there sometimes but I don't want to admit to the madness). So since added OCT to the mix, I noticed A LOT more shedding than I had with MT alone. I know shedding varies and depends on length of use, but anyone find increased or more shedding with OCT than MT?
 
thanks justkiya for the add..

Question ladies has anyone used it throughout the week without washing.. Im starting to think me and cowashing dint get along and I wanna stay away..
 
Okay you ladies, im back on track with my OCT and I already feel the itchies. I have it on right now. I let it sit on my scalp, while I surf the net (LHCF) 2-3 hrs im going to co wash. Feels good to be back.
 
thanks justkiya for the add..

Question ladies has anyone used it throughout the week without washing.. Im starting to think me and cowashing dint get along and I wanna stay away..

I do, but I only apply to my scalp. I do that every night (when I remember) and not white flaking or anything. I DC or wash 2X per week and haven't had any build up or any other problems with it.
 
I do, but I only apply to my scalp. I do that every night (when I remember) and not white flaking or anything. I DC or wash 2X per week and haven't had any build up or any other problems with it.

Same here. I use it every night on my scalp w/no problems or no flakes.
 
thanks justkiya for the add..

Question ladies has anyone used it throughout the week without washing.. Im starting to think me and cowashing dint get along and I wanna stay away..

The one time i didnt cowash during the week i got shedding not massive but enough that was when i first started MT so that couldve been the normal shedding IDK..but i know ive been co washing since and taking my garlic vit...Im in a full sew in so IDK whats going on under there but ive been co washing and moisturizing so i should be good...maybe you can apply it for 2 days before your normal wash:yep:... HTH
 
The one time i didnt cowash during the week i got shedding not massive but enough that was when i first started MT so that couldve been the normal shedding IDK..but i know ive been co washing since and taking my garlic vit...Im in a full sew in so IDK whats going on under there but ive been co washing and moisturizing so i should be good...maybe you can apply it for 2 days before your normal wash:yep:... HTH

Yea thanks.. I was thinking of doing that. After a co wash my hair always looks dry...:nono:
 
My short break from MT begins tomorrow. I will putting in my sew-in and keeping my hands out of my hair for a bit. I am heading to Nebraska on Saturday to see my SO and I must admit I am not looking forward to icy weather coming from the Bahamas but I amlooking forward to seeing him:grin::yep:. I miss that man:sad:!
 
Thanks for sharing Aggie! I think my hair needs more protein - I shall do this 3 times a week to start with, see how it responds. So, do you mix the MT with oil for the overnight pre-poo as well or do you just add oils in the morning? My MT is pre-infused with oils and essential oils with MN and in the morning i would add some shikakai or brahmi oil to my hair and scalp to protect my strands from the shampooing.

Girl, you're brave using shampoo so often - my hair goes all brittle and dry with shampoo so I only use if I feel I have buildup - so far so good.

What I need now is a GREAT natural organic DEEP moisturising conditioner. The UK site is out of AO HSR :wallbash::wallbash: and they don't do the white camellia one at all :sad:. I'm off to physically shop for a conditioner today.

Have you tried Jason Natural jojoba conditioner. Abba Pure Moisture is great too. Google them and see what you come up with.
 
thanks justkiya for the add..

Question ladies has anyone used it throughout the week without washing.. Im starting to think me and cowashing dint get along and I wanna stay away..

This is a response and a mini-update....

This is my first adventure with MT and so far, so good. My MT came in the mail on Friday and I RAN to the shower to get it on my head! :grin: I washed my hair with a moisture-rich shampoo and used MT as a leave-in conditioner. I parted my hair into sections and coated my strands with MT and jojoba oil prior to twisting it and letting it airdry. My twist-outs turned out beautifully - even better than my usual leave-in (SheaMoisture Shea Butter Leave-In). No flakes, no problems so far. AND my natural hair even blows in the wind..... I am LOVING this stuff!!! I do plan on washing it out tonight and redoing my twist-out with MT and jojoba oil.

Try applying it to wet hair as a leave-in and see if that changes things for you.

Best of luck!
 
I'm for the first time pre-treating with MT on dry hair. I've saturated my hair and scalp with MT mixed with my homemade ayurveda oil and covered in plastic. Never used it as a pre-wash before, I pray my hair likes it. Will report back tomorrow!

Okay, reporting back 2 days later than said :blush:. Anyway, I loved it! My hair's not all hard and brittle like I feared it might be, so I shall pre-treat with MT at least once a week, see if that helps stop these bloody splits.

Still applying to scalp daily too. This stuff better make my hair grow and stay strong!
 
i threw out the MT/OCT mix i made. So im going to start using MT like i used to...mixed with SAA, oils, and honey quat. Then i will apply OCT on my scalp a few hours before i wash either once a week or twice a week. I cant handle the shedding....i will still continue taking garlic too.

I also ordered alter ego cren and cant wait to get that in the mail.
 
Okay ladies, I know the official challenge isn't over until the end of the month, but I went ahead and put my progress pics in my siggy because I really really really need a trim, but I wanted to post my progress pics first.
 
Great progress, Keepinitnatural and Brownskinned Babydoll!!! I know I am not an official part of the challenge, but I use MT with each wash and lurk here daily...

...hopefully will join the next MT challenge.

Blessings,
cj
 
Ok, I'm back on the horse. My scalp has calmed down from the MN debacle in December. I have about 4-5 weeks of MT left and then I'll relax my hair. I haven't used it since December or early January so I'm wondering if I'll get the big growth spurt I got the first 7 weeks of using it. I got 2 inches in 7 weeks....no b.s....

Did anyone who stopped using MT for a while, come back and get a big spurt of growth like the 1st time?
 
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