BostonMaria
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I guess everyone is different. Although I love my natural, heat-stretched hair I tend to get bored with it after a while. I'm dying to have BSL naturally curly hair so I have a long wait.
I've literally had it both ways. When I first went natural however many years ago, I wore my hair pressed all the time. Back then, I learned that I simply didn't need a relaxer to get straight hair. I wasn't concerned about my curls, my 'texture', or any of that. I grew my hair long, and it was relatively healthy. I say relatively, because my natural texture was NEVER, ever seen because the weekly heat broke down the bonds that allow curly hair to be, well, curly.
This time around, I choose NOT to use heat because I like my curls. And for me, "heat-stretching" does not mean loosened curls, it means NO curls.
Any suggestion for a pre-salon visit will be helpful. I still haven't found a stylist that I "trust" yet.
Re: I'm just gonna do it: Who wants natural, heat-stretched hair?
Meaning, do you want to go natural but would like to press/flat-iron often enough so that you loosen your curl pattern?
I do - I've got about 3 inches of new growth and I'm thinking of transitioning to natural, but I never plan to wear my hair kinky. I want it straight and sleek. I've taken a major paycut and I can't afford to travel to my stylist and get regular relaxers so I've got to do something.
I have a friend who has LONG bsl, full (no thin ends) 4b natural hair and she's been pressing her hair ever since she's been all-natural. She showed me her wet hair earlier today and her curl pattern is now like a 3a or something similar. She does protein and moisturizing treatment and she has no breakage either! After seeing this, I realized that this is what I would want if my hair was all natural. Like, that is the only way that I'd go natural.
I keep seeing all the recent horror stories about ladies who have gone natural and their kinks keep breaking, knotting, and tangling, keeping them from retaining length.
Meaning, do you want to go natural but would like to press/flat-iron often enough so that you loosen your curl pattern?
I do - I've got about 3 inches of new growth and I'm thinking of transitioning to natural, but I never plan to wear my hair kinky. I want it straight and sleek. I've taken a major paycut and I can't afford to travel to my stylist and get regular relaxers so I've got to do something.
I have a friend who has LONG bsl, full (no thin ends) 4b natural hair and she's been pressing her hair ever since she's been all-natural. She showed me her wet hair earlier today and her curl pattern is now like a 3a or something similar. She does protein and moisturizing treatment and she has no breakage either! After seeing this, I realized that this is what I would want if my hair was all natural. Like, that is the only way that I'd go natural.
I keep seeing all the recent horror stories about ladies who have gone natural and their kinks keep breaking, knotting, and tangling, keeping them from retaining length.
I've literally had it both ways. When I first went natural however many years ago, I wore my hair pressed all the time. Back then, I learned that I simply didn't need a relaxer to get straight hair. I wasn't concerned about my curls, my 'texture', or any of that. I grew my hair long, and it was relatively healthy. I say relatively, because my natural texture was NEVER, ever seen because the weekly heat broke down the bonds that allow curly hair to be, well, curly.
This time around, I choose NOT to use heat because I like my curls. And for me, "heat-stretching" does not mean loosened curls, it means NO curls.
I think you should just continue to relax it. To me it is pointless to go natural and never wear ur hair in its natural state. In the long run ur hair will be healthier if u just relaxed every 3-4 months. It is less of a hassle...
Meaning, do you want to go natural but would like to press/flat-iron often enough so that you loosen your curl pattern?
I do - I've got about 3 inches of new growth and I'm thinking of transitioning to natural, but I never plan to wear my hair kinky. I want it straight and sleek. I've taken a major paycut and I can't afford to travel to my stylist and get regular relaxers so I've got to do something.
I have a friend who has LONG bsl, full (no thin ends) 4b natural hair and she's been pressing her hair ever since she's been all-natural. She showed me her wet hair earlier today and her curl pattern is now like a 3a or something similar. She does protein and moisturizing treatment and she has no breakage either! After seeing this, I realized that this is what I would want if my hair was all natural. Like, that is the only way that I'd go natural.
I keep seeing all the recent horror stories about ladies who have gone natural and their kinks keep breaking, knotting, and tangling, keeping them from retaining length.
I don't necessarily want heat-stretched hair, but I do want versatile hair that can be straight or kinky without the help of chemicals. So I press my hair whenever I feel like it. AND my natural texture has not let me down yet.( I've been pressing my hair for a decade now.)
When moisture and water hits my hair it reverts fully. But if regular pressing heat-stretches my hair, then so be it. As long as I retain length, can wear wash n' gos and don't have dry splitting ends...then I'm a happy, natural, MBL camper!
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Im a PROUD fan of heat stretched hair
I admit that I get irritated by all the rhetoric saying that naturals who have heat stretched hair have unhealthy and damaged hair. I feel that heat stretched is an option just like texlaxed, relaxed, or natural...its all a continum and all methods that we as black women can use in order to achieve styles that we feel comfortable with and fit with our lifestyles and views. Im glad to hear about all the ladies on the board who have friends and family members with beautiful, healthy, long heads of natural but heat-stretched hair. I understand that it may not WORK for everyone...but thats nothing new. There is not ONE SINGLE thing that everyone can do anyways...thats why there is diversity on the board....ALL of our hair is different....some people cant do relaxers, some people can do texlax, some people refuse to deal with their natural texture...the board is about finding what works for YOUR HAIR and what makes YOUR HAIR healthy and happy.
So with that said, to the OP my hair is currently heat stretched and I LOVE IT!! No my coils are not as tight all over as they once were but thats okay with me. With the looser curls (some of the 4a are still 4a, some are more 3c ish, some are waves, some is frizz, my front is almost completely straight...but always has been..its definitely a mix)...but I embrace all of it and here are the benefits that I find.
1) It no longer takes me over an hour to detangle my hair enough to put it in a ponytail. I can now do it in like five minutes or less.
2)It no longer takes me five or six hours to do my two strand twists. I can do them in like 1-2 hours now.
3)When Im wearing my hair natural, my hair shows much more length. It also has a lot less bulk.
4) I can still wear wash and gos. I just do a modified version, where I wash, twist, and go.
5) If I want to wear a puff, I just wear my afro phony pony...it has perfectly uniform curls.
6) When I get my hair pressed, it lasts 2-3 weeks and doesnt take as long to do.
7) My hair gets washed and co-washed a lot more often since it takes much less effort to detangle and style.
Although, there are moments that I wish my coils were all perfect and the way they used to be...those moments are few and far between. I can still wear my hair both ways (coily and straight) with it being heat stretched. I feel that with anything you are going to have trade-offs and you can truly never have the best of both worlds. In my opinion, having heat stretched hair is definitely worth the trade offs of not having super tight 4a coilss. Once I get to BSL, I plan to move to a regi similar to pinkskates and straighten once or twice a month and keep my hair strong with protein and moisture.
thats a good question.I don't think I've ever had knots.I detangle well when my hair is in its natural state and I break it down into smaller pieces so that I can work with it better. I also slather on the conditioner if it even acts like it wants to tangle.I wonder if its technique?
This is actually what I want to happen to my hair. I realized that the main thing that I love about my hair when it is natural, is that I haven't used any chemicals. I love my natural hair, but my main motivation for not relaxing anymore isn't so much because I love my texture (though I do), but because I really can't stand relaxing in the long term and the use of such chemicals.
When I was younger I used to get my hair washed, blowdried, and pressed about every two weeks and my hair was still thick and healthy. Any problems that I had were due to ignorance, Pink Lotion, and super tight scrunchies . Eventually, my hair stopped reverting to the same degree of "kinkage", but it wasn't bone straight, more like a frizzy fluff which I like.
Relaxers just degrade my strands too much and make it break off, but I personally have no desire to wear my hair in it's super coily natural state. I never had a term for it, but looking back, my hair was at a wonderful state of heat stretchedness, and it was very nice.
HI EVERYONE! I AM A TOTAL NEWBIE(habitual lurker) AND THIS IS MY VERY FIRST POST(sniff, sniff)!
ALL THE RESPONSES TO THIS TOPIC HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY INFORMATIVE! THIS SEEMS LIKE A GOOD OPTION FOR NATURALS WHO WISH TO WEAR THEIR HAIR STRAIGHT WITHOUT THE CHEMICALS.
BUMPING FOR MORE RESPONSES...AND PICS OF HEAT STRETCHED TEX IF ANYONE HAS SOME TO SHARE..
I am a true hair addict and this is the bestest haircare forum I have ever been addicted to! I have gained so much valuable information! You ladies rock!!
Transitioning to 100% natural from slightly texturized
last Phyto I 4/08
Hair type: 3b/3c/4a... i think
approaching full BSL
GOAL: Even MBL winter 09
Pics: WIP
**Standing up and clapping for this thread**
Im a PROUD fan of heat stretched hair
I admit that I get irritated by all the rhetoric saying that naturals who have heat stretched hair have unhealthy and damaged hair. I feel that heat stretched is an option just like texlaxed, relaxed, or natural...its all a continum and all methods that we as black women can use in order to achieve styles that we feel comfortable with and fit with our lifestyles and views. Im glad to hear about all the ladies on the board who have friends and family members with beautiful, healthy, long heads of natural but heat-stretched hair. I understand that it may not WORK for everyone...but thats nothing new. There is not ONE SINGLE thing that everyone can do anyways...thats why there is diversity on the board....ALL of our hair is different....some people cant do relaxers, some people can do texlax, some people refuse to deal with their natural texture...the board is about finding what works for YOUR HAIR and what makes YOUR HAIR healthy and happy.
So with that said, to the OP my hair is currently heat stretched and I LOVE IT!! No my coils are not as tight all over as they once were but thats okay with me. With the looser curls (some of the 4a are still 4a, some are more 3c ish, some are waves, some is frizz, my front is almost completely straight...but always has been..its definitely a mix)...but I embrace all of it and here are the benefits that I find.
1) It no longer takes me over an hour to detangle my hair enough to put it in a ponytail. I can now do it in like five minutes or less.
2)It no longer takes me five or six hours to do my two strand twists. I can do them in like 1-2 hours now.
3)When Im wearing my hair natural, my hair shows much more length. It also has a lot less bulk.
4) I can still wear wash and gos. I just do a modified version, where I wash, twist, and go.
5) If I want to wear a puff, I just wear my afro phony pony...it has perfectly uniform curls.
6) When I get my hair pressed, it lasts 2-3 weeks and doesnt take as long to do.
7) My hair gets washed and co-washed a lot more often since it takes much less effort to detangle and style.
Although, there are moments that I wish my coils were all perfect and the way they used to be...those moments are few and far between. I can still wear my hair both ways (coily and straight) with it being heat stretched. I feel that with anything you are going to have trade-offs and you can truly never have the best of both worlds. In my opinion, having heat stretched hair is definitely worth the trade offs of not having super tight 4a coilss. Once I get to BSL, I plan to move to a regi similar to pinkskates and straighten once or twice a month and keep my hair strong with protein and moisture.
as far as i'm concerned, heat-stretched = heat damaged. if i want the looser curl look, i'd rather do a mild tex than continually put heat on my hair in order to damage it (i.e - "loosen" the curl). i've seen heat-damaged hair and it's not cute, imo. the only thing that can apparently be done with it to make it look nice is keeping it straight. at least with a tex, i could have more versatility.