Hip–Tailbone Length (HL–TBL) 2014 Challenge!

I love how you guys are so enthusiastic in this thread:yep: I'm technically in this challenge but I'm in a hair rut. I think I tend to get in one once I'm several weeks post, as the shrinkage starts...I know it's the shrinkage but..... my hair seems shorter and I feel like I'm not progressing, plus my ends seem thinner (again that's because my nape is a looser curl pattern so there is less shrinkage).

On a bright note; I've been using Aubrey Organic Camomille luxurious Volumizing conditioner as my leave in/moisturizer this week and I REALLY like it:love: It actually does seem to give my fine hair more volume:yep:
 
Aireen said:
No suggestions unfortunately but I frequently feel this way as well. When I got to MBL/WL, I felt like my hair still didn't LOOK long so that's why after cutting it, I decided to reach for around HL-TBL. I think once I get back there, maybe it'll feel "long" again. I mean... before I didn't think my hair was long but I wasn't this... unsatisfied. Maybe your shortest layers just need to catch up to around MBL while the longest layers are at about WHIP and you'll feel like your hair is finally enough? I don't know... I feel like WL is the new BSL, HL is the new WL, and TBL is the new WHIP so it'll affect our feelings about our current hair lengths without realizing it.



Ugh... that's my biggest problem with stretching! The shed hairs do sooooooo much damage. :nono: The worst thing is that my fav conditioner that has uber slip comes in a small bottle for $10-12. :rolleyes:
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Aireen

Girl, you just said something right there. I SO cosign that!
 
Lucia
True. Self-sabotage is definately something that i would like to avoid. I'd hate to finish cutting my hair and then regret it. Plus, it'll push my goals back about 2 years which I am definately not ready for. Thanks for snapping me out of it :slap: lol

Jewell
You are totally right, it would be an unneccessary cut when my hair isn't even damaged. I don't think I'm going to cut it until I reach TBL. Plus, the front and middle of my hair does grow a lot faster than the back (I think) so I think it may even out a little bit more. :) Micro-trimming! Why the heck had I forgotten about S&D until you just mentioned it smh :nono: Definately going to do that from now on. Thanks for your support!

LaVgirl
I guess so. I haven't straightened my hair since I have been completely natural and I don't plan to for a couple of years. It will probably be all even by then. Thanks for your support!
Btw, your braids look so pretty and thick! Love 'em! I may have to do some braids again :)
 
Doing these lil box plaits allowed me to see the condition of my hair in more detail. I can tell which sections are strong, which sections are choppy; because I tend to cut knots out due to laziness & a lil place where my hair broke off so bad that it cause a weird looking patch. Its small but I need to nurture it.
 
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Doing these lil box plaits allowed me to see the condition of my hair in more detail. I can tell which sections are strong, which sections are choppy; because I tend to cut knots out due to laziness & a lil place where my hair broke off so bad that it cause a weird looking patch. Its small but I need to nurture it.
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Uhm, hide the shears! Get rid of the knots with EVCO drenched/lubed fingers.
 
I went to Sally's and got 2 pump bottles and a jar for my homemade leave-in and body lotion. I'm on my way to becoming a real mixtress :grin:.

How do y'all stop from messing with your hair everyday? I'm trying to bun, but I feel like I have to do something with my hair at night, or it looks messy and I have to redo it :ohwell:. LaVgirl , your braids are beautiful!! That would be a great protective style, but I'm scared that I'll change my mind about keeping them in :blush:.
 
mayoo

You're welcome! It took me a while to be able to put down the scissors and just let my hair grow like it will anyway. I have become a lot older in the last 10 years, lol and a lot more patient. Pushing 30 now and so I just leave my hair be most times and keep it clean, conditioned, moisturized, protected...just the basics. SN: I love the pic in your siggie...she is too cute!!

Aireen

I agree completely with what you said. I won't feel like my hair is truly "long" until it is past TBL coming up on Classic length. Hairnorexia is real, and I've seen it on other forums too.
 
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Aireen said:
I feel like WL is the new BSL, HL is the new WL, and TBL is the new WHIP so it'll affect our feelings about our current hair lengths without realizing it.
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Aireen
Truth!

ckisland

For nighttime you could do 2-4 loose braids, put your hair up in a bonet, or pineapple=high loose ponytail with a fabric scrunchie (the satiny ones are best), scarves.
Now for leaving your hair alone, find some low manipulation styles, buns, braidouts twist outs something you can do easily any day of the week of course moisturize before you put your hair up in PS styles-if it goes up dry it will come down dry.

If you want to PS to reach a goal faster find decorative accessories to dress up your buns. Here's what I do I have fun with my hair sometimes like some weekends I give myself a pass, and do wash n go's, braid outs, curly ponytails.
90% of the time I'm baggie bunning=baggy over my length, no phonytail. Look up protective styles on hairblogs or YT some of the easiest styles I've gotten on there.
HHG
 
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ckisland

For nighttime you could do 2-4 loose braids, put your hair up in a bonet, or pineapple=high loose ponytail with a fabric scrunchie (the satiny ones are best), scarves.
Now for leaving your hair alone, find some low manipulation styles, buns, braidouts twist outs something you can do easily any day of the week of course moisturize before you put your hair up in PS styles-if it goes up dry it will come down dry.

If you want to PS to reach a goal faster find decorative accessories to dress up your buns. Here's what I do I have fun with my hair sometimes like some weekends I give myself a pass, and do wash n go's, braid outs, curly ponytails.
90% of the time I'm baggie bunning=baggy over my length, no phonytail. Look up protective styles on hairblogs or YT some of the easiest styles I've gotten on there.
HHG
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Thank you! I need to do a braidout or twistout with rollers on the ends. Trying to braid my current hair would probably be a disaster. My ends are so finicky about how they get stretched out :ohwell: .
 
ckisland I've been wigging it and that allows me to leave my 2 braids in for at least a week at a time between wash days. During the week I moisturize and/or seal using the LCO method with my hair still in the braids. And if I need to get to my scalp I have an applicator bottle for that
 
ckisland I've been wigging it and that allows me to leave my 2 braids in for at least a week at a time between wash days. During the week I moisturize and/or seal using the LCO method with my hair still in the braids. And if I need to get to my scalp I have an applicator bottle for that
 
I know how you feel, @mayoo. The compliments are never really enough. I'll see my shadow while walking and be like "Ooooh my hair's long!" Friends, family members, family friends will tell me my hair is long and I still feel like my hair is above my shoulders. You just have to wait it out and not do anything drastic, it's a phase that will probably pass when our hair becomes too much to handle at these long lengths we're aiming for. :lol:

I LIKE YOUR ENTHUSIASM, I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING! To answer your question though, the conditioner I was talking about is Organix Repairing Awapuhi Ginger Conditioner, @pre_medicalrulz. You telling me your conditioner is $34 makes me feel better. I just go through it so quickly because it's so runny and I use a lot, I feel like it should be cheaper. Also, I made a trip to BSS and saw some stuff for like $50 soooo I'm not feeling as stingy lol.

@Nix08, long time no see! :wave: Don't worry, I'm starting to notice my shrinkage as well and it makes me hair look and feel thinner as well. I always think I'm the only one going through it until I see someone else mentions it. I'm here with ya, I gotchu! :lol:
 
Ladies, I don't know if any of you live near Beauty Brands or Ulta, both are having their liter sales right now. The Beauty Brands sale runs through early August @ $12.98 per liter and the Ulta sale ends on July 21st. However, because they're authorized salon/retailers you can't order the salon brands i.e. Joico, Kenra, Matrix, and Paul Mitchell online. You have to purchase it in the store. I called Beauty Brands earlier to see if the specific items I need are part of the liter sale, two of the items are and two of them aren't.

For example, the Joico K-Pak Reconstructor and Matrix Biolage Conditioning Balm are part of the sale, but the Joico K-Pak Clarifying Poo and Paul Mitchell Smoothing and Strengthening products aren't. The rest of Paul Mitchell's line is included in the sale. What they show online is not a clear representation of what is included in the sale if your into salon brands.

Ulta is closer to my house, so I will just swing by there, before I drive out to BB, to see what's included in their salon liter sale. Ulta's liters start at $12.99 & up for their sale.

ETA: Mentioned due to convo, regarding the cost of condish etc.
 
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Never take me to the BSS, I always have to go overboard. :(

Saw these huge tubs of conditioner and I was instantly attracted because a) I've never heard of this brand; b) keywords: treatment, olive, lacio, placenta, extreme, recovery, brittle, over-processed; c) thick consistency for deep conditioning treatments. Kind of skeptical since it was so cheap though, the blue was $3.99 while the green was $4.99; I'll try them after my relaxer. Picked up some Roux since ApHogee left my hair hard and protein overloaded -- was able to recover but I don't know when I'm using that again. Also found my favourite serum of all time finally, got 2 but plan to stock up when I run out. PJ CRAVING SATISFIED, I'M HAPPY LOL!~
 

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MileHighDiva

That sale sounds good! Thanks for posting! I'm pretty sure there is an Ulta in some area nearby. I LOVE salon brands like Matrix, Joico, Redken, and Pureology. CosmoProf is my store too. Might have to find a store and take a little drive this weekend. I have a stash I'm currently trying to work through, but IMO, you can not have too much hair (or beauty) product, a true PJ mentality. :lachen:
 
Aireen said:
Never take me to the BSS, I always have to go overboard. :(

Saw these huge tubs of conditioner and I was instantly attracted because a) I've never heard of this brand; b) keywords: treatment, olive, lacio, placenta, extreme, recovery, brittle, over-processed; c) thick consistency for deep conditioning treatments. Kind of skeptical since it was so cheap though, the blue was $3.99 while the green was $4.99; I'll try them after my relaxer. Picked up some Roux since ApHogee left my hair hard and protein overloaded -- was able to recover but I don't know when I'm using that again. Also found my favourite serum of all time finally, got 2 but plan to stock up when I run out. PJ CRAVING SATISFIED, I'M HAPPY LOL!~
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Your haul looks so good :lick:
 
I logged into my BHM account for the first time in about a year and my siggy said 4 inches to MBL. Which is exactly where I am now *tear* I admit I didn't take any care of my hair this past year so zero retention isn't a surprise. But imagine where I could have been if I didn't fall off :ohwell:

The important thing is I'm back, and going hard this time around... Done with trial and error so I'm back to the regimen I've had the most success with
 
AlliCat said:
ckisland I've been wigging it and that allows me to leave my 2 braids in for at least a week at a time between wash days. During the week I moisturize and/or seal using the LCO method with my hair still in the braids. And if I need to get to my scalp I have an applicator bottle for that
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I really need to give wigs a try, but I'm scurred :look:. A braid wig would be kinda cool because I wouldn't have to try and make it blend with my own hair or look realistic.
 
Jewell, I was in Ulta today, they clarified that their liter sale doesn't start till this Sunday and runs through the 27th. I googled the Cosmoprof you mentioned. Guess what? They're having a liter sale too. There's one in Denver. I'll have to drive over there and check it out one day.

Do you have to be a beauty professional to buy from them?
 
MileHighDiva

Thanks for the info! Yup, you have to be a beauty pro to buy from CosmoProf. They dont allow online ordering unless you're licensed. There's one in Durham here, but I have only been to the one in Lakewood/Cleveland, OH with my future SIL who is a stylist. She took me in and I picked out what I wanted and she showed her license and I paid. I just mail her a check and a list and she will send me what I want...or when she comes to visit we go to the local one.

CosmoProf's prices everyday are bananas...like I got a 16.9 ounce set of Joico Moisture Recovery for $12, so that's why they only sell to pro's. Also, my liter of Redken All Soft Conditioner was only $9. A set of Joico liter shampoo and condish is usually around $12-15 there, including the K-Pak line. The prices are well worth it to me. They keep the prices covered in the store as they are so low and unbelievable...you have to lift the label tag on the shelf to see the price. My beloved Redken Anti-Snap Leave-In is only $9 there and I couldn't find it under $12-18 per bottle on EBay and Amazon.

Lemme put you onto another beauty jewel that is the Universal Companies Spa Resource Book. My neighbor-friend is a licensed aesthetician, and I was able to get a huge catalog (huge being 420 pages) free through her. Their ph is 1(800) 558-5571.

Must be licensed to purchase, but they have everything from EO's to waxing, to hair care and salon products/supplies all dealing with beauty, hair, and skin care. I was straight salivating flipping through the catalog. I got mine in 2011, so I don't know if they are still doing catalogs, but I'm pretty sure they are. :yep:

Website is www.universalcompanies.com. I was also able to attend the international beauty convention with my neighbor and got a ticket through her. Talk about everything in the pro beauty field!! The creator of Ouidad was there and many other industry pro's...Tabitha Coffey hosted it. It was held in Orlando, FL when I went in June 2011. I was able to get MAC makeup and nice beauty masks for very good prices. They even have child care at the convention. Just thought you might be interested!

The beauty convention is called the Premiere Show Orlando. www.premiereorlandoshow.biz We drove 13 hrs going and 9 hrs coming back, and stayed in a hotel for the duration of the show (usually Fri-Sun), so that gives you an idea how much we are into hair care and beauty! :lick:

I {heart} all things beauty!:drunk:
 
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Jewell, I'm jealous! If they're liters are normally $9-12, I could only imagine what the savings would be during their liter sale. I'll have to see if someone with a license will go to Cosmoprof with me.
 
Jewell, at those prices you don't have to chase sales! I'd be a HAM! There would never be an excuse not to try a new salon product.

I appreciate the detailed reply's you give everyone!
 
Aireen said:
No suggestions unfortunately but I frequently feel this way as well. When I got to MBL/WL, I felt like my hair still didn't LOOK long so that's why after cutting it, I decided to reach for around HL-TBL. I think once I get back there, maybe it'll feel "long" again. I mean... before I didn't think my hair was long but I wasn't this... unsatisfied. Maybe your shortest layers just need to catch up to around MBL while the longest layers are at about WHIP and you'll feel like your hair is finally enough? I don't know... I feel like WL is the new BSL, HL is the new WL, and TBL is the new WHIP so it'll affect our feelings about our current hair lengths without realizing it.


Ugh... that's my biggest problem with stretching! The shed hairs do sooooooo much damage. :nono: The worst thing is that my fav conditioner that has uber slip comes in a small bottle for $10-12. :rolleyes:
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Just passing through this thread to give myself a bigger headache, but @ the bolded. It means then that i have a TWA. hangs head in shame and crys.
 
Had a dream that I went to a beautician and she gave me a relaxer and cut my hair to neck length. It was more like a nightmare lol.
 
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