Hip–Tailbone Length (HL–TBL) 2014 Challenge!

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Hi ladies great progress pics and updates, I can't wait to see more :lick:, I haven't been posting much lately so I have a lot to tell you :grin:

So today is wash day, I clarified, moisture poo and co-washed. I DC'd using nexxus humectress (old formula) mixed with safflower oil. I'm not that keen on safflower oil and I've noticed that when I mix it with my conditioners, I get no slip whatsoever. I'm pretty sure the humectress used to give me a good amount of slip so I'm thinking the culprit is the safflower oil. I'm going to use my Bee Mine luscious balance cream for the first time, it looks and smells great, I love the deja's hair milk so I'm expecting great things, I've gone for the island mango scent which I love, I couldn't really handle the coconut scent, it doesn't even smell like coconut :look:. I'm using sunflower oil and olive butter to seal.

My update:
So I mentioned some time ago I was trying to simplify my regimen, this is going really well. I basically stripped it back to basics and then reincorporated steps and techniques back in, I no longer prepoo, there are only two more steps I want to put back in, a bi-weekly ACV rinse and a monthly HOT. I'm also getting through my stash, I only have six of the old rinse out/DC conditioners left. There are still a good few products I want try but I'm going to do this gradually.

I've been taking Priteva for a little over a month now and I think I'm seeing results, as I started taking them quite late in this stretch I don't think I can accurately measure the growth since starting them, I do believe that the priteva is having a good effect on my hair. I'm getting less shedding, my hair feels stronger and I do feel like my hair has grown. When I get my next touch up, I will be able to check if there is a different amount of regrowth during the full duration of my stretch and compare it to what I normally get without taking the priteva.

Now for the good news, I saved the best for last. I'm 15 and a half weeks post, I have about 1.5-2 inches of NG and I think I'm BSL (I can't believe I just typed that, it felt so good :grin:). So before I washed my hair and while I had DC on, I did a pull test, I don't know if this bra is just higher than all my other ones or if my hair has really made it. I will post pics later, in the bra i'm wearing now and the bra I took my last LC pic in, that will give us something to compare it to. I'm home alone at the moment and I'm no good at taking self pics so you'll have to give me a little time. Just to be clear, I'm not planning on claiming it until the next LC, by then it should be fuller but I'm not going to lie I'm excited :drunk::spinning::lol: Sorry for the long post but I just had to share :yep:
 
I've decided to jump back on my low-carb lifestyle again. Can't wait to see if it has positive effects on my hair again this time :)

I just unravelled my blown out twists and this is how it turned out:
 

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I'm back with the pics :grin: I also did a little dusting tonight :drunk:
 

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Re: Hip Length (HL) 2014 Challenge!

Since joining this challenge, I have decided to transition to natural. Here's my update:

- Current Length + Hair Type: APL stretched + 3c/4a mix

- Regimen: ONCE A WEEK = Wash (various sulfate-free shampoo/soap), cowash (various conditioners), 1 hour Pre-Poo DC (with a mix of various oils, DCs & ayurvedic powders), various Reconstructors, air dry; EVERY OTHER DAY = M&S (various moisturizers & oils); DAILY = PS (buns, updos), 2 hour baggying, sleep in satin scarf and bonnet, take prenatal vitamins.

- Plans to get to HL: Maintain hair regimen (I've been consistent), eat healthier and exercise (I need major help in these areas).

- How far are you from HL?: I'm still around 10 inches when stretched.

- What are your trimming plans?: Dust monthly with the moon.

- HL goal date: December 31, 2014 (still keeping the faith)

- Plans once HL is achieved: Pursue my ultimate goal...TBL!

Because my hair is a mess right now, there will be no pictures until the next update. Lord help me on this journey!!!
 
I just finished washing my hair. I DC'd overnight with SSI Okra Reconstructor, and tonight cleansed with Curls Creamy Curl Cleanser, and conditioned with Aphogee 2 Min. Keratin. My hair was so freakin soft, and I lost very little hair :grin:. I was going to try out 3 Sisters of Natural Curly Gelo, but decided to add leave-in and let my hair shrink up. So far I don't see any straight ends and my hair seems to be clumping better and curlier in certain sections.

Last night, I came across this Indian youtuber with knee-length hair and couldn't help but watch most of her vids. She's never trimmed or cut her hair and she has thick, lovely fairytail ends. Watching her inspires me to start doing my weekly CO prepoos, stop trimming, no more heat, and PSing for like the next 1.5 years :look: .
 
MileHighDiva said:
Lucia, Thanks! I needed that dose of inspiration! I was all "in my feelings" last night about how much I'll potentially have to cut back due to frying my ends. :nono:

What do you think of her "fairy tail ends"?
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MileHighDiva

I think they're fine, if your hair is pretty healthy then it doesn't have to be blunt. Most people hair doesn't grow in blunt, I know mine doesn't, I will have to get 1-2 inches past goal then cut to get that blunt look. It is what it is. :look:
 
ckisland said:
I just finished washing my hair. I DC'd overnight with SSI Okra Reconstructor, and tonight cleansed with Curls Creamy Curl Cleanser, and conditioned with Aphogee 2 Min. Keratin. My hair was so freakin soft, and I lost very little hair :grin:. I was going to try out 3 Sisters of Natural Curly Gelo, but decided to add leave-in and let my hair shrink up. So far I don't see any straight ends and my hair seems to be clumping better and curlier in certain sections.

Last night, I came across this Indian youtuber with knee-length hair and couldn't help but watch most of her vids. She's never trimmed or cut her hair and she has thick, lovely fairytail ends. Watching her inspires me to start doing my weekly CO prepoos, stop trimming, no more heat, and PSing for like the next 1.5 years :look: .
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ckisland, how are you going to tease and not provide a link to this Youtuber's channel? :look: I need inspiration, too!:lol:
 
Thanks to all the ladies that posted official updates today! Here's mine.

UPDATE: My regimen is pretty much the same as it has always been, except sometimes I might use a keratin oil and serum with cones in it to protect my hair from the blow-dryer. Trying to incorperate some EVCO but ugh... it's soooo concentrated. I get the best results when I put two spritz in some serum and apply to wet hair.

My hair is currently BSL but progressing well towards MBL! I'm 2 months post and hoping to get there by the next relaxer which I am thinking/hoping will be in another 2+ months. I see myself at WL by December, while still welcoming the possibility of getting there sooner. :grin: HL by late 2014, please! Again, if sooner, lovely! :lick:

Right now, my hair feels thicker but I really want to trim my ends, I'm debating on whether or not that should be this touch up coming up or the following one. Either way, my hair needs a shape up soon, before it gets spacy or pointed. I'm liking the even look my hair currently has but I know my sides could really use some shaping.

As for internal care... I've been trying to drink green smoothies and use supplements! Biosil + fish oil + algae are my main and I might have a multi-vitamin on the side. Lately I haven't been as strict but I'm going to start up again, I feel like my skin has a glow when I take these everyday so if my hair benefits, great! My main focus for supplements = skincare + internal health though. Looking forward to the day my diet consists of vegetables, sushi, home-cooked food, water, and maybe the occassional takeout.

OKAY DONE! No pics, maybe when I have my next relaxer. :grin: It's 11:59PM, I'm glad I got this done before 12 midnight. EDIT: Added some details and clarified some statements.
 
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Okay here's my update.

My regimen changed a bit since I joined back in February. I've incorporated more low-manipulation & protective styling in the form of halfwigs (self made). I would use them before but only on the weekends -- recently got the guts to wear fake hair to work and it's a major hit soo I see myself wearing them indefinitely :look:

The wigs have helped me avoid heat, which I'm trying to get rid of until September 21. Also helped avoid manipulation b/c don't have to comb until wash day. On the other hand I need to use sulfates more than once a month. I think a dirty scalp is contributing to this breakout I have going on currently :ohwell: Will still be using sulfate-free shampoos but not as frequently. Also pretty much eliminating co-washing and black rinses.

Still doing weekly washes & DC sessions (products chosen based on protein/moisture balance), daily moisturizing and/or oiling. Still stretching relaxers, in fact I'm planning to stretch 5 months this time (my longest ever)

I'm in a serious product junkie phase right now. It's a good thing because it's getting me excited about hair again (i.e. the joy when I FINALLY found silicon mix at a local BSS - makes me want to deep condition with it all day everyday). But it's also a bad thing because I'm not consistently using the old products I know work for me.

In terms of vitamins, been taking biotin pretty regularly and plan on adding silica, B12 and a multivitamin in the near future.

Hip length 2014 is still the goal :grin: I have about 4 inches to waist length so giving myself 8 months to reach it (Feb 2014)
 
Does anyone have any thoughts re Priteva versus Viviscal and/or other hair vitamins? (Another roll call ... smile.)

Angel of the North said:
As posted in BSL/MBL

Hi ladies great progress pics and updates, I can't wait to see more :lick:, I haven't been posting much lately so I have a lot to tell you :grin:

So today is wash day, I clarified, moisture poo and co-washed. I DC'd using nexxus humectress (old formula) mixed with safflower oil. I'm not that keen on safflower oil and I've noticed that when I mix it with my conditioners, I get no slip whatsoever. I'm pretty sure the humectress used to give me a good amount of slip so I'm thinking the culprit is the safflower oil. I'm going to use my Bee Mine luscious balance cream for the first time, it looks and smells great, I love the deja's hair milk so I'm expecting great things, I've gone for the island mango scent which I love, I couldn't really handle the coconut scent, it doesn't even smell like coconut :look:. I'm using sunflower oil and olive butter to seal.

My update:
So I mentioned some time ago I was trying to simplify my regimen, this is going really well. I basically stripped it back to basics and then reincorporated steps and techniques back in, I no longer prepoo, there are only two more steps I want to put back in, a bi-weekly ACV rinse and a monthly HOT. I'm also getting through my stash, I only have six of the old rinse out/DC conditioners left. There are still a good few products I want try but I'm going to do this gradually.

I've been taking Priteva for a little over a month now and I think I'm seeing results, as I started taking them quite late in this stretch I don't think I can accurately measure the growth since starting them, I do believe that the priteva is having a good effect on my hair. I'm getting less shedding, my hair feels stronger and I do feel like my hair has grown. When I get my next touch up, I will be able to check if there is a different amount of regrowth during the full duration of my stretch and compare it to what I normally get without taking the priteva.

Now for the good news, I saved the best for last. I'm 15 and a half weeks post, I have about 1.5-2 inches of NG and I think I'm BSL (I can't believe I just typed that, it felt so good :grin:). So before I washed my hair and while I had DC on, I did a pull test, I don't know if this bra is just higher than all my other ones or if my hair has really made it. I will post pics later, in the bra i'm wearing now and the bra I took my last LC pic in, that will give us something to compare it to. I'm home alone at the moment and I'm no good at taking self pics so you'll have to give me a little time. Just to be clear, I'm not planning on claiming it until the next LC, by then it should be fuller but I'm not going to lie I'm excited :drunk::spinning::lol: Sorry for the long post but I just had to share :yep:
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I want to do an official update too!

Update:

My hair's back curly with little to no damage from what I can tell so far. I'm currently BSL and will grow back to MBL by December of this year. From there, I hope to get the 2-3 inches that will put me at WL by June 2014, and to be WHip to grazing HL by Dec. 31, 2014 :yep:. To reach my timeline, I will not use heat, of any kind, again until Dec. 2014, no trimming for the next 6 months (at least), and I will protective style exclusively.

Regimen for the next 6 months:
1. Cleanse 1x week with non-sulfate cleanser
2. Overnight CO prepoo 1x week
3. Detangle 1x week
4. Rinse and condition mid-week
5. Protein treatment 1x month
(I may use Aphogee Pro-Vitamin spray after mid-week rinse)
My main style is going to be buns, buns, and more buns with 2 flattwists or single braid/plait thrown in. I'm beginning to take a multivitamin and a fish oil supplement daily. I'm also going to finally start exercising regularly and sticking to eating real, whole foods. I've been visualizing what I want to look like, and having gorgeous hair is not enough when I can have the total package! :grin:
 
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Just wanted to post a quick check-in before it got any later. My ex broke up with me in May and I haven't taken care of my hair since. It was bad. Finally washed a week and a half ago, and of course detangling was a nightmare. Feels much better being back to my old regimen though. I did a S&D the other day and found loads of split ends to cut out. I know I probably need a trim but I don't want to straighten to do it. That's pretty much it for now. I don't feel like I've retained much since April but I'll post a length check pic soon.
 
pre_medicalrulz said:
Yea I'm thinking its the thick bangs & the jet black color on her light skin that's probably giving off the wiggy look.

And maybe she airdried that's giving her the thick roots. That's what happens to my hair but dammit I still see my scalp Lol
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I think the color is a little dark, harsh for her skin tone too, maybe some natural looking highlights in a lighter brown would give ti dimension, lighten up the bangs to a fringe. Otherwise I wouldn't mind having the "wigginess" problem. :look:
 
^ I'm definitely putting my scissors in hiding. I don't think I started using scissors regularly (cutting off ssks when styling and trims every 3-4 months it seems) until 2.5-3 years into my natural hair journey. Before that my hair somehow managed without any trimming, and that's also the time I retained the most length :ohwell:. Starting out, I thought, I'm trying to grow my hair back out, so obviously I shouldn't cut it. Well no duh :rolleyes:! Even though I'm not a religious person, I do admire and understand the spirituality of not cutting ones hair.
 
Cersei I was in a similar situation but decided to take all that self-reflective, negative "what the heck just happened?" energy and go obsessive with my hair. (Everything I read about getting over a break-up said, find a hobby, become interested in something else -- all the while, I felt like I was in a daze. Finally decided that my hobby was gonna be my hair. Sounds self-absorbed and a little bananas I know but hey, it worked (okay, I should say that it's "working" -- breakup was in March and I still have my moments but at least I don't feel numb and depressed anymore.) You know what they say, looking good (and whipping shinny beautiful hair) is the best revenge.
Cersei said:
Just wanted to post a quick check-in before it got any later. My ex broke up with me in May and I haven't taken care of my hair since. It was bad. Finally washed a week and a half ago, and of course detangling was a nightmare. Feels much better being back to my old regimen though. I did a S&D the other day and found loads of split ends to cut out. I know I probably need a trim but I don't want to straighten to do it. That's pretty much it for now. I don't feel like I've retained much since April but I'll post a length check pic soon.
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I'll post my update tomorrow. Just finished day #2 of getting my hair box braided and I'm beat. I'll have pics and deets tomorrow hopefully. :-)
 
Update: Lately I’ve been feeling a bit depressed about my uneven or 'layered' hair; it is like this due to the fact that a couple of months after my BC I noticed that I had some heat damage from straightening back in May 12 and cut it out. But the thing is, these days I keep thinking how it looks odd that I’m grazing WL in the back but APL in the front :-/ I know that I’m being paranoid but I just feel like on the whole my hair doesn’t have that ‘grazing wl look’ if you know what I mean, as in it looks much shorter than it actually is. Especially when I watch the hair journeys of ladies such as Longhairdontcare2011 or Chime (HairCrush) because their hair always looks so full, thick, long and all the same length. I hope that my fast-growing front hair will continue to do just that and am considering keeping the back of my hair at WL until the front catches up. But then again, I have goals….. I dunno. I’m so confused :-/
Anyone else feeling this way? Or any suggestions??


LaVgirl Yay pics!! :lick:
 
I can't deal w/ these little knots from shedded hairs when stretching. Relaxers may have to be @ 12 weeks from now on. I really hate to have to do that. That can be so damaging. Sigh...
 
mayoo said:
I just feel like on the whole my hair doesn’t have that ‘grazing wl look’ if you know what I mean, as in it looks much shorter than it actually is. Especially when I watch the hair journeys of ladies such as Longhairdontcare2011 or Chime (HairCrush) because their hair always looks so full, thick, long and all the same length. I hope that my fast-growing front hair will continue to do just that and am considering keeping the back of my hair at WL until the front catches up. But then again, I have goals….. I dunno. I’m so confused :-/
Anyone else feeling this way? Or any suggestions??
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No suggestions unfortunately but I frequently feel this way as well. When I got to MBL/WL, I felt like my hair still didn't LOOK long so that's why after cutting it, I decided to reach for around HL-TBL. I think once I get back there, maybe it'll feel "long" again. I mean... before I didn't think my hair was long but I wasn't this... unsatisfied. Maybe your shortest layers just need to catch up to around MBL while the longest layers are at about WHIP and you'll feel like your hair is finally enough? I don't know... I feel like WL is the new BSL, HL is the new WL, and TBL is the new WHIP so it'll affect our feelings about our current hair lengths without realizing it.

pre_medicalrulz said:
I can't deal w/ these little knots from shedded hairs when stretching. Relaxers may have to be @ 12 weeks from now on. I really hate to have to do that. That can be so damaging. Sigh...
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Ugh... that's my biggest problem with stretching! The shed hairs do sooooooo much damage. :nono: The worst thing is that my fav conditioner that has uber slip comes in a small bottle for $10-12. :rolleyes:
 
Aireen said:
Maybe your shortest layers just need to catch up to around MBL while the longest layers are at about WHIP and you'll feel like your hair is finally enough? I don't know... I feel like WL is the new BSL, HL is the new WL, and TBL is the new WHIP so it'll affect our feelings about our current hair lengths without realizing it.:rolleyes:
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Aireen
"Maybe your shortest layers just need to catch up to around MBL while the longest layers are at about WHIP and you'll feel like your hair is finally enough?"

Maybe :yep: But I feel like it's going to take sooo long for my front SL/APL layers to get there but I'll give it another year, I guess. Maybe once I reach TBL, I'll consider trying to cut it all to one length which will probably be full WL and then grow it out again from there :grin: There's always a solution :) Thanks for your support and encouragement

"I feel like WL is the new BSL, HL is the new WL, and TBL is the new WHIP so it'll affect our feelings about our current hair lengths without realizing it"

So true!:yep: When I first started this journey, I was dreaming of BSL and thinking of how amazing it would be but when I got it, it was all 'but this isn't WL though". lol
Even when people stop my in the street and say that my hair is long (grazing WL), I say thank-you but think 'Not really' because it doent really feel like it's long.
 
Aireen said:
No suggestions unfortunately but I frequently feel this way as well. When I got to MBL/WL, I felt like my hair still didn't LOOK long so that's why after cutting it, I decided to reach for around HL-TBL. I think once I get back there, maybe it'll feel "long" again. I mean... before I didn't think my hair was long but I wasn't this... unsatisfied. Maybe your shortest layers just need to catch up to around MBL while the longest layers are at about WHIP and you'll feel like your hair is finally enough? I don't know... I feel like WL is the new BSL, HL is the new WL, and TBL is the new WHIP so it'll affect our feelings about our current hair lengths without realizing it.

Ugh... that's my biggest problem with stretching! The shed hairs do sooooooo much damage. :nono: The worst thing is that my fav conditioner that has uber slip comes in a small bottle for $10-12. :rolleyes:
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For real! Which conditioner because that is a good price to me! My condiotioner is $34. o_O
 
Update: I started taking omega-3 fish oil again at the beginning of June. I notice a difference in my skin (yay!) but not really in my hair. Seems like hip bone length is soo close and yet so far away. It looks like my hair is not even moving so hopefully these braids will give me a good 1-2 inches to reach it. It's my own hair, of course. They hang to about BSL/MBL. (I'm feeling like I want to run a flat iron over the curly ends to add more length but I will resist!) Took about 17-18 hours total. 8 hours on Saturday, and 10 hours on Tuesday, give or take a few minutes. I want to leave them in till at least September. I'm not planning to do a full washing at all... can't afford to waste all that time sitting on my poor behind! :look: I'll spritz my braids (and scalp, as needed) and moisturize every couple of days.

mayoo Don't worry about it! It isn't a big deal, especially if you don't wear your hair straight that often. Give your hair a chance to catch itself up. :)
 

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So I'm putting box braids in my hair w/o extensions. This is my 1st time putting small box plaits in my hair all by myself. :) I'm going to leave it in until August 1st. So I will be wiggin' it for my bday & a wedding. Oh well. I'm 14 weeks post. I'd like to leave them in until 20 weeks but don't want to have a crazy detangling session so 1 month should be sufficient. I purchased 2 wigs yesterday so I'm back on the wig wagon. :)
 
Thank you to milehighdiva and all the other ladies that were helping me find a good moisturizer. ESP. to milehighdiva because I've discovered that my hair loves s-curl. I'm going to keep using the coconut oil because I do think it's working for me as well.

I flat-ironed a few days ago :look: I was just dying to see if there was any progress and I actually see it when I compare these two pictures. Especially since in the second, (recent), my hair tied up and it is also greasier :blush: than the first since I had literally JUST gotten it done when that pic was taken, I can kind of see my hair looking thicker now. :grin: and I also got a trim/dusting! (not really a trim but not really a dusting :spinning:) thank you all! I wanna see a full MBL. :lick:
 

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