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Kurlee
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I hear you but frankly I'm somewhat disturbed at this new revelation that 4a/b hair may be trained to hang straight with twist-outs
I guess pressing combs, relaxers and such were invented for nothing.
I've always found it easier to evaluate hair type with wet, unmanipulated hair but in chime's case, this method is deemed invalid.
that whole thing was just reaching.com
. Disbelief through grasping at straws to "explain" her hair.I find the second bolded hilarious. It's like the rules change for certain people/hair types. It's all foolishness.
EllePixie
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I hear you but frankly I'm somewhat disturbed at this new revelation that 4a/b hair may be trained to hang straight with twist-outs
I guess pressing combs, relaxers and such were invented for nothing
I've always found it easier to evaluate hair type with wet, unmanipulated hair but in chime's case, this method is deemed invalid.
No one said that. NO ONE. All that was said that the pic of her wavy wet hair could have been a result of her hair not fully reverting after a twist out and her washing her hair in twists. The concept really isn't that hard to grasp. It wouldn't be the first person that this has happened to.
If you soak your hair while it's in twists, then take them out, your hair is still going to be in the twist pattern, no?
Kurlee What you're saying may ring somewhat true, but I'm just confused. For the record I consider myself a type 4 and I think she is a type 4a (with some 3c and 4b), so I guess I'm excused from hating.
Kurlee
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I should have put a disclaimer. NOt everyone, JUST SOME. I think many just like her hair and don't really care, but there are a few that I think are projecting. Oh well, she has gorgeous hair whether she is 4f or 1zNo one said that. NO ONE. All that was said that the pic of her wavy wet hair could have been a result of her hair not fully reverting after a twist out and her washing her hair in twists. The concept really isn't that hard to grasp. It wouldn't be the first person that this has happened to.
If you soak your hair while it's in twists, then take them out, your hair is still going to be in the twist pattern, no?
@Kurlee What you're saying may ring somewhat true, but I'm just confused. For the record I consider myself a type 4 and I think she is a type 4a (with some 3c and 4b), so I guess I'm excused from hating.
. This thread really shouldn't be so long, but the fact that it's so long and they types of comments in are really telling. If she's reading she must be like WTF?!
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EllePixie
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I should have put a disclaimer. NOt everyone, JUST SOME. I think many just like her hair and don't really care, but there are a few that I think are projecting. Oh well, she has gorgeous hair whether she is 4f or 1z
Girl I was playing with you.
It's not that serious to me - I find this laughable. Women, I tell ya, we can make anything a three day discussion! 
ms-gg
Aka frostoppa
At the end of the day, as with all theories, this theory is long overdue for someone to revise it. It happens all the time in the sciences and this is no exception. His theory is the foundation for which other theories need to be built on. He set up the classifications in a very vague and incomplete manner, and now with the knowledge that we have, kinkies, curlies, and straight hair people from all hair boards need to revise this theory and come up with a better system that is more in depth and better explains the various categories of wavy, curly and nappy hair.
bronzebomb
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so can we just say she is 3c/4a/4b, with dense, coarse hair? This is a lot discussion to say, she has a mixture of kinky/curly hair...
Chime, if you are reading this...please don't explain your hair texture anymore.
BTW, all the women in her family have long pretty hair and it appears as if they all have slighty different textures...and the mother and father are African American.
Chime, if you are reading this...please don't explain your hair texture anymore.
BTW, all the women in her family have long pretty hair and it appears as if they all have slighty different textures...and the mother and father are African American.
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Junebug D
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It's totally off-base to say people think she's not type 4 just because her hair is long. We have our very own Mwedzi here and as far as I can remember, no one's ever thought she was anything other than 4b. So i think it's just totally off-base to say that's the only reason why people think that girl is not type 4 when we do have long-haired type 4s here who no one would ever mistake as a type 3. But if she is mostly or only taking pics and recording videos when her hair is in twistouts, perhaps that is why people are confused? Why does it have to be something sinister or "self-hating"? That word needs to be retired.
So i think it's just totally off-base to say that's the only reason why people think that girl is not type 4 when we do have long-haired type 4s here who no one would ever mistake as a type 3. But if she is mostly or only taking pics and recording videos when her hair is in twistouts, perhaps that is why people are confused? Why does it have to be something sinister or "self-hating"? That word needs to be retired.
Kurlee
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if it were really that simple, the thread would not be 220 posts long.It's totally off-base to say people think she's not type 4 just because her hair is long. We have our very own Mwedzi here and as far as I can remember, no one's ever thought she was anything other than 4b.
Junebug D
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Oh I'm not addressing the multiple twists and turns and trying to discover why her hair looks the way it does and whether or not its trained and all that jazz. I was addressing the implication that people were saying she's not type 4 only because her hair is long. I do think that's off-base for the reason I stated. Much of the thread *is* wondering what her hair is doing and how it's doing it. I don't necessarily see anything sinister about that, it just tells me that people are curious about her hair. 
I was addressing the implication that people were saying she's not type 4 only because her hair is long. I do think that's off-base for the reason I stated. Much of the thread *is* wondering what her hair is doing and how it's doing it. I don't necessarily see anything sinister about that, it just tells me that people are curious about her hair. 
SheenaVee
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Ok, so I didn't really wanna get involved in the whole 'discussion' of her hair type but just wanted to say,
Her hair does have waves but they are small waves. Like, when hair has small curls and you stretch it out into an S shape and it makes small waves. Isn't type 2 supposed to be LARGE waves? Like, some of my hair doesn't curl, it just waves. But the waves are small like my curl size.
IMO I think if her hair strands weren't so thick and heavy they would form curls, but because the curls are stretched out they become waves. Isn't that what happens to people with really thick, curly hair? When it gets longer and heavier, the curls stretch out and look like waves, and it might have a few spirals on the end of some strands but that's it. Celinnastar(sp?) comes to mind. And that other lady who does the conditioner only method, the one with the really long hair, Terri, I think? Chime's hair just seems too coarse to even have those spirals on the end.
IMO her hair is like a 3c,4a with some 4b parts. I voted 4a/4b in the poll but I've since changed my mind.
Her hair does have waves but they are small waves. Like, when hair has small curls and you stretch it out into an S shape and it makes small waves. Isn't type 2 supposed to be LARGE waves? Like, some of my hair doesn't curl, it just waves. But the waves are small like my curl size.
IMO I think if her hair strands weren't so thick and heavy they would form curls, but because the curls are stretched out they become waves. Isn't that what happens to people with really thick, curly hair? When it gets longer and heavier, the curls stretch out and look like waves, and it might have a few spirals on the end of some strands but that's it. Celinnastar(sp?) comes to mind. And that other lady who does the conditioner only method, the one with the really long hair, Terri, I think? Chime's hair just seems too coarse to even have those spirals on the end.
IMO her hair is like a 3c,4a with some 4b parts. I voted 4a/4b in the poll but I've since changed my mind.
SimplyBlessed
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Omg this thread, is still going?
Seriously her hair is constantly stretched out thick and long so yea her hair Is going to hang and plus she always has twists outs so yea the pattern is going to hold...
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Seriously her hair is constantly stretched out thick and long so yea her hair Is going to hang and plus she always has twists outs so yea the pattern is going to hold...
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Nonie
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serendipity Uhmm...my 4B is not wavy at all, neither is any that I have seen. LOL
It's only wavy if I braid it
or stretch it with my fingers.
It probably could be wavy if I brushed it but I don't like brushes.
IMO the difference between 4A and 4B is 4B coils are tinier than 4A and therefore hard to see unless one is really close. The thread @tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT started asking us to insert 4B hair pics clearly shows you that 4B is not wavy hair...unless it's manipulated to be.
@Kurlee and @Poohbear, after seeing the clips you posted (Thanks so much for the tips to FF to the important parts coz I do not sit through long YT vids), I am convinced she's 3C/4A. Her hair behaves the way I see @LynnieB's hair and @~~HoneyComb~~'s hair behave. She probably has a porous hair (not saying that like it's a bad thing but some people do and some don't, and she herself did give evidence of that by saying how fast it dries) which means it absorbs water easily and is thus weighed down by it creating the waves. If she were not stroking her hair and just let it dry, I bet my bottom dollar it'd look wavy...the way curls look when stretched out. It would not shrink up the way another 3C/4A hair might because it's heavy (coarse) and long. Her hair is not type 2 or 1, IMO. It's not 3A or 3B either. Nor is it 100% 3C. It's got the characteristics of 3C and 4A. I do think coarse strands do hang more if long because gravity is able to exert more force on the strands. Also I do believe that long hair that weighed down by moisture may behave the way hair does when shingled. The base of the hair closer to the scalp is the first to dry...but it does so being weighed down by the lower part of hair that is still heavy with water...and so the base is set in a stretched state. And so on. By the time the ends are drying fully, they have been pulling down on the length of the hair due to the water that has been flowing down toward them in obedience to gravity...thus making them feel like a weight pulling on the strands.
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serendipity
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serendipity Uhmm...my 4B is not wavy at all, neither is any that I have seen. LOL
It's only wavy if I braid it
or stretch it with my fingers.
It probably could be wavy if I brushed it but I don't like brushes.
IMO the difference between 4A and 4B is 4B coils are tinier than 4A and therefore hard to see unless one is really close. The thread @tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT started asking us to insert 4B hair pics clearly shows you that 4B is not wavy hair...unless it's manipulated to be.
@Kurlee and @Poohbear, after seeing the clips you posted (Thanks so much for the tips to FF to the important parts coz I do not sit through long YT vids), I am convinced she's 3C/4A. Her hair behaves the way I see @LynnieB's hair and @~~HoneyComb~~'s hair behave. She probably has a porous hair (not saying that like it's a bad thing but some people do and some don't, and she herself did give evidence of that by saying how fast it dries) which means it absorbs water easily and is thus weighed down by it creating the waves. If she were not stroking her hair and just let it dry, I bet my bottom dollar it'd look wavy...the way curls look when stretched out. It would not shrink up the way another 3C/4A hair might because it's heavy (coarse) and long. Her hair is not type 2 or 1, IMO. It's not 3A or 3B either. Nor is it 100% 3C. It's got the characteristics of 3C and 4A. I do think coarse strands do hang more if long because gravity is able to exert more force on the strands. Also I do believe that long hair that weighed down by moisture may behave the way hair does when shingled. The base of the hair closer to the scalp is the first to dry...but it does so being weighed down by the lower part of hair that is still heavy with water...and so the base is set in a stretched state. And so on. By the time the ends are drying fully, they have been pulling down on the length of the hair due to the water that has been flowing down toward them in obedience to gravity...thus making them feel like a weight pulling on the strands.
Your hair looks like what I consider 4a-it has definite coils. I've always considered 4b to be extremely tight waves, no coils similar to Alek Wek.
I see quite a few 4a's mistyping themselves as 4b, and 3c's calling themselves 4a.
Nonie-if you believe you aren't 4a, wouldn't 4c be the alternative based on the type diagram?
**4b is actually relatively uncommon, I feel some people who consider their hair to be very kinky just automatically place themselves in this category without fully evaluating their curl pattern.
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omegachick31
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Okay so now what....
This chick made a video TELLING people what her hair type was, NOT ASKING anyone to tell her what it was...if she says she is a 4A/4B/3C mix who is everyone else to tell her different...She was there during all stages of growth, heat application, washing, conditioning, tangling, shrinkage...all that...Some people slay me with knowing more about you then you know about yourself...Really?
This chick made a video TELLING people what her hair type was, NOT ASKING anyone to tell her what it was...if she says she is a 4A/4B/3C mix who is everyone else to tell her different...She was there during all stages of growth, heat application, washing, conditioning, tangling, shrinkage...all that...Some people slay me with knowing more about you then you know about yourself...Really?
ms-gg
Aka frostoppa
I always thought 4a=coils 4b=z's or in other words, hair that does not have a definite pattern because the pattern is very irregular. It does not literally look like a sharp "z" but it has nothing but bends, twists, and an irregular pattern. But I ain't going there again with you Nonie lol. That was a long thread way back in early 2011 lol.
EllePixie
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I wonder if it's because her hair has grown?
Embyra
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Your hair looks like what I consider 4a-it has definite coils. I've always considered 4b to be extremely tight waves, no coils similar to Alek Wek.
I see quite a few 4a's mistyping themselves as 4b, and 3c's calling themselves 4a.
nonie pics she takes showing her coils are magnified with her fancy camera she uses
Embyra
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this thread reminds me of my hair typing thread with nonie and irrestible going back and forth (jokingly)irrestible was like hold up nonie your curl look just like mine we joked that she was a type 3 ....until nonie made it clear her pics were magnified ahhhh fun times
knt1229
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I'm just looking at the vid in the OP and I don't see big curls or loops as you call them. I disregarded many of the pics posted in this thread because those pics are of styled hair. Styled hair can mimic other hair types. Personally, I think that is where the confusion is coming from. Silikiness is a non factor to me. I'm seeing what appears to me to be type 4 hair.
Also, I find it interesting that you typed my hair from my siggy pic and compared it to Sheena's. Your right it is type 4 but my hair is nothing like Sheena's. Sheena's curl pattern is much larger than mine. There again the mistake of typing styled hair. To you my hair looked similiar to Sheena's but I promise you my hair and her's is very different.
Same thing with Chime. She typed herself as a type 4 because she sees it and works in it. She knows better than anyone on this board. We are only going by pics and some are going by styled hair. She is a primary example of why hair shouldn't be typed when it has been manipulated.
Boujoichic
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Type 3 hair can also appear to be an s shaped wave with a curl on the end. Her waves are not very large so I wouldnt say she was a type 2.
EllePixie
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irrestible was like hold up nonie your curl look just like mine we joked that she was a type 3 ....until nonie made it clear her pics were magnified ahhhh fun times
Lolz
Nonie what kind of camera do you have? Does it have video? I need that junx for mah videos...it's sheer hotness.
Embyra
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EllePixie
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i already asked
I have a PowerShot! I think I just suck at taking photos...
Embyra
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I have a PowerShot! I think I just suck at taking photos...
all i have is a retired camera phone
one day i will join the rest of the world with a actual CAMERA smh
CurlyMoo
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Your hair looks like what I consider 4a-it has definite coils. I've always considered 4b to be extremely tight waves, no coils similar to Alek Wek.
I see quite a few 4a's mistyping themselves as 4b, and 3c's calling themselves 4a.
@Nonie-if you believe you aren't 4a, wouldn't 4c be the alternative based on the type diagram?
**4b is actually relatively uncommon, I feel some people who consider their hair to be very kinky just automatically place themselves in this category without fully evaluating their curl pattern.
According to this chart 4B is more of a zigzag than a coil and I would have thought due to the fact that it's not a defined coil it would be considered 4C. I wonder why it wouldn't be considered a tight 2B due to it's wavy pattern?
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