BKT alternative?
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Damaged but not out
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Ok back from vacation time for the pics.
The last pic was the next day after the process. I have more pics but waiting for family to upload.
For ppl afraid of the heat, this product protected my existing heat damage so well. Unfortunately for me(Remember i went to the a$$hole "stylist" who lied about being trained) though the twit who fried my hair messed up some undamaged pieces in the front that def have to be cut later. Thankfully there is some curl return so instead of 3-4 inches looks like it will be about 1-2inches after the product wears off.
Twists before DE
The DE system
Also
-combing/detangling takes about 5 mins vs 15-20 mins.
-in 3 years I have never been able to flat iron my hair, it would always revert immediately. Always. Reverted both times I tried Softliss( BKT)
-both my sisters did this with me one who at 3 months post the other at 8
weeks. They loved it, "8 weeks" will now attempt one relaxer a year. "3 months" is officially transitioning.
The last pic was the next day after the process. I have more pics but waiting for family to upload.
For ppl afraid of the heat, this product protected my existing heat damage so well. Unfortunately for me(Remember i went to the a$$hole "stylist" who lied about being trained) though the twit who fried my hair messed up some undamaged pieces in the front that def have to be cut later. Thankfully there is some curl return so instead of 3-4 inches looks like it will be about 1-2inches after the product wears off.
Twists before DE
The DE system
Also
-combing/detangling takes about 5 mins vs 15-20 mins.
-in 3 years I have never been able to flat iron my hair, it would always revert immediately. Always. Reverted both times I tried Softliss( BKT)
-both my sisters did this with me one who at 3 months post the other at 8
weeks. They loved it, "8 weeks" will now attempt one relaxer a year. "3 months" is officially transitioning.
Damaged but not out
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I would liken the transitioning mousse to a texturiser/texlaxing. It has the same feeling my hair had in the early days of my texturising before my hair was over processed.
Uniqzoe
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Ok back from vacation time for the pics.
The last pic was the next day after the process. I have more pics but waiting for family to upload.
For ppl afraid of the heat, this product protected my existing heat damage so well. Unfortunately for me(Remember i went to the a$$hole "stylist" who lied about being trained) though the twit who fried my hair messed up some undamaged pieces in the front that def have to be cut later. Thankfully there is some curl return so instead of 3-4 inches looks like it will be about 1-2inches after the product wears off.
Twists before DE
The DE system
Also
-combing/detangling takes about 5 mins vs 15-20 mins.
-in 3 years I have never been able to flat iron my hair, it would always revert immediately. Always. Reverted both times I tried Softliss( BKT)
-both my sisters did this with me one who at 3 months post the other at 8
weeks. They loved it, "8 weeks" will now attempt one relaxer a year. "3 months" is officially transitioning.
WOW! Your hair looks great! Yes the shorter detangling time is awesome!!!
Dove56
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Here's information on the Naked assuage Thermal Smoothing System:
http://salonprobarbados.com/product/assuage.pdf
Kurlee
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your hair is healthy and thickOk back from vacation time for the pics.
The last pic was the next day after the process. I have more pics but waiting for family to upload.
For ppl afraid of the heat, this product protected my existing heat damage so well. Unfortunately for me(Remember i went to the a$$hole "stylist" who lied about being trained) though the twit who fried my hair messed up some undamaged pieces in the front that def have to be cut later. Thankfully there is some curl return so instead of 3-4 inches looks like it will be about 1-2inches after the product wears off.
Twists before DE
The DE system
Also
-combing/detangling takes about 5 mins vs 15-20 mins.
-in 3 years I have never been able to flat iron my hair, it would always revert immediately. Always. Reverted both times I tried Softliss( BKT)
-both my sisters did this with me one who at 3 months post the other at 8
weeks. They loved it, "8 weeks" will now attempt one relaxer a year. "3 months" is officially transitioning.
yodie
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luckiestdestiny
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The de from what I understand is not a BKT ^ It's an alternative to it. It's just amino acids infused in the hair to add weight and lengthen coilstemporarily while strengthening and protecting hair from heat so it may be up your ally....and mine
...we'll see...
...we'll see...
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Peppermynt
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I have continued to stalk this thread hoping you all found a DE supplier ... 
However, I just came from my hair dressers (I had my grays colored ) and she mentioned that they no longer do BKT but now offer an amino based smoothing treatment by a company known as GK (Global Keratin). It's called "The Best." She gave me a copy of their fact sheet and it appears to be filled with amino acids. I just got home and did a google and found this link:
http://www.amazon.com/Global-Keratin-GK-Taming-System/dp/B006P1EJMS
Looks like it's for sale to the public (my hair dresser says she charges $250+ for it.) She only uses a blow dryer (not a flat iron) and she thinks I would love it.
I am about to jump in the shower so I haven't done anymore research online, but once I'm out will scan the ingredient sheet she gave me and post it here.
However, I just came from my hair dressers (I had my grays colored
) and she mentioned that they no longer do BKT but now offer an amino based smoothing treatment by a company known as GK (Global Keratin). It's called "The Best." She gave me a copy of their fact sheet and it appears to be filled with amino acids. I just got home and did a google and found this link:http://www.amazon.com/Global-Keratin-GK-Taming-System/dp/B006P1EJMS
Looks like it's for sale to the public (my hair dresser says she charges $250+ for it.) She only uses a blow dryer (not a flat iron) and she thinks I would love it.
I am about to jump in the shower so I haven't done anymore research online, but once I'm out will scan the ingredient sheet she gave me and post it here.
Carolie
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The de from what I understand is not a BKT ^ It's an alternative to it. It's just amino acids infused in the hair to add weight and lengthen coilstemporarily while strengthening and protecting hair from heat so it may be up your ally....and mine
I'm sorry! Maybe I worded my post wrong, but I meant that I do want an alternative to BKT after hearing all the horror stories from other women and doing research on them. It definitely sounds like it's for me! I'm gonna talk to a stylist I found in Brandon that offers it and do some more research.
Peppermynt
Defying Gravity
I have continued to stalk this thread hoping you all found a DE supplier ...
However, I just came from my hair dressers (I had my grays colored
http://www.amazon.com/Global-Keratin-GK-Taming-System/dp/B006P1EJMS
Looks like it's for sale to the public (my hair dresser says she charges $250+ for it.) She only uses a blow dryer (not a flat iron) and she thinks I would love it.
I am about to jump in the shower so I haven't done anymore research online, but once I'm out will scan the ingredient sheet she gave me and post it here.
OK, here are the 2 pages she gave me. What do you guys think of the ingredients?
Kurlee Adel10 Uniqzoe Dove56 yodie Damaged but not out luckiestdestiny
ETA to mention folks (assuming I did it right - I'm a newbie
) And DH and I did a bunch of searches ... the only questionable item we came up with is Propylene Glycol and we found this on wiki:
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Kurlee
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so it's the same active ingredient: Glyoxylic acidOK, here are the 2 pages she gave me. What do you guys think of the ingredients?
Kurlee Adel10 Uniqzoe Dove56 yodie Damaged but not out luckiestdestiny
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyoxylic_acid
Dove56
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OK, here are the 2 pages she gave me. What do you guys think of the ingredients?
Kurlee Adel10 Uniqzoe Dove56 yodie Damaged but not out luckiestdestiny
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I read about this treatment and the active ingredients a few weeks ago. It is also in NUAAT. It seems that if the treatments don't contain formeldahyde or some type of aldehyde (like Glyoxlic acid) the results aren't as dramatic.
I think the safest treatments are carbocyestine and sulfite based. I will not play with formeldahyde or any variation of it.
I never knew all the time that the QOD Max contained close to 4% formeldahyde instead of the "trace amounts" they purported.
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Dove56
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I think DE and Arosci have a lot of similarities.
Peppermynt
Defying Gravity
I read about this treatment and the active ingredients a few weeks ago. It is also in NUAAT. It seems that if the treatments don't contain formeldahyde or some type of aldehyde (like Glyoxlic acid) the results aren't as dramatic.
I think the safest treatments are carbocyestine and sulfite based. I will not play with formeldahyde or any variation of it.
Dang.
erplexedI'm not sure what NUAAT is - google doesn't give me any info ...
One thing my hair stylist said was that peeps that had had BKT felt the GKHair Best wasn't as effective - it left their hair straighter but still curlier and didn't make it "weigh" as much as the BKT did (presumably because BKT bonds to the hair and weighs it down according to my stylist.) Which led me to believe that "The Best" wasn't as 'harsh' a treatment.
I'd love for my hair to have a looser curl (like when I texlaxed) without the relaxer component.So I take it that this isn't something you guys consider safe?
UGH.
Sits back down on the "waiting for a DE supplier" bench.
Sorry. Pics distracted me 
Kurlee
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I read about this treatment and the active ingredients a few weeks ago. It is also in NUAAT. It seems that if the treatments don't contain formeldahyde or some type of aldehyde (like Glyoxlic acid) the results aren't as dramatic.
I think the safest treatments are carbocyestine and sulfite based. I will not play with formeldahyde or any variation of it.
carbocysteine ones are attached to the glyoxylic acid, but carry the synonym "oxoacetamide carbocysteine, instead of glyoxyloyl carbocysteine. Dove56, the QOD Max Organiq that everyone was going gaga over? I think the sulfite ones are "safest".
Kurlee
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I'm still in the wait and see camp for the glyoxyloyl/oxoacetamide carbocysteine. It "appears" to be safe, but I still want to know more. I'm not convinced. By the way, Design Essentials uses the same active ingredient.Dang.
I'm not sure what NUAAT is - google doesn't give me any info ...
One thing my hair stylist said was that peeps that had had BKT felt the GKHair Best wasn't as effective - it left their hair straighter but still curlier and didn't make it "weigh" as much as the BKT did (presumably because BKT bonds to the hair and weighs it down according to my stylist.) Which led me to believe that "The Best" wasn't as 'harsh' a treatment.
So I take it that this isn't something you guys consider safe?
UGH.
Sits back down on the "waiting for a DE supplier" bench.
yodie
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^^^ I'm not even going to pretend like I understand all of the chemical terminology. I don't. Arocsi and DE seem to be similar. DE is harder to get and Arocsi is readily available. Are you ladies not interested in trying Arocsi, or was their customer service just terrible?
I'm in no rush to do the treatment, but I would like to try a test patch and like the rest of you, I want to choose the best product for my hair.
I'm in no rush to do the treatment, but I would like to try a test patch and like the rest of you, I want to choose the best product for my hair.
Kurlee
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Kurlee
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it's the same glyoxyloyl/oxoacetamide carbocysteine as the Arosci.
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