I am at shoulder length in the back, esp. the sides i am to my neck(took a braid out just to see and i was just sooo happy. Kept on stretching and stretching but gotta stop that b4 i break my hair off, i was just in such amazement. lol) so by september i should be um.. past shoulder. I am going to try maybe a month in the summe w/o braids, i dunno if i can do it cause of the humidty :^P but i'll see, if not oh well i'll just put them back on in. Whats working for me is washing every week(when i remember. LOL) and using my s-curl(either the blue and white or grey and blue bottle) and when it gets low i mx with water and sometimes i use my sulpher 8. But i dont use the S8 as much when i wear braids cause my hair grows too fast and then combine that with the vitamins my goodness i'd be doing nothing but touching up my hair all the time with that combo. lol 2 much growth. LOL