Unpopular opinions 2008 - Hair edition

[SparklingFlame]

I love this thread!

Hmmm lets see:

*Knots and tangles aren’t the “norm” if your hair is natural. If you’re constantly getting knots and tangles there’s something that needs to be tweaked in YOUR regimen.

*Licensed Hair Stylists are overrated, most if not all of them are taught how to “style” hair not how to properly care for it.

*Healthy hair doesn’t need to be trimmed every 6-8 weeks.

*CO-Washing can cleanse the hair AND scalp if done correctly.

*Stretching for 6-8 weeks isn’t a stretch, it’s just a very small time frame that barely lessens the possibility of overlapping and over-processing.

*Following someone’s regimen to a “T” wont necessarily give you great results. Everything (products, techniques, tools, methods etc..) will not work the same for E-v-e-r-y-b-o-d-y.

Your post is the 1st one yet that I agree with 100%!

BTW this thread is hialrious and telling at the same time.

 

[JerriBlank]

I love this thread!

Hmmm lets see:

*Knots and tangles aren’t the “norm” if your hair is natural. If you’re constantly getting knots and tangles there’s something that needs to be tweaked in YOUR regimen.

*Licensed Hair Stylists are overrated, most if not all of them are taught how to “style” hair not how to properly care for it.

*Healthy hair doesn’t need to be trimmed every 6-8 weeks.

*CO-Washing can cleanse the hair AND scalp if done correctly.

*Stretching for 6-8 weeks isn’t a stretch, it’s just a very small time frame that barely lessens the possibility of overlapping and over-processing.

*Following someone’s regimen to a “T” wont necessarily give you great results. Everything (products, techniques, tools, methods etc..) will not work the same for E-v-e-r-y-b-o-d-y.

Word son!!

If you only focus on your haircare methods and neglect diet/nutrition and excersize then you are cheating yourself.

True!!

[QUOTEYou don't need hair groupies to have gorgeous hair! You don't need Mary and her friend, and her dog and it's rubber toy Bobo to be shouting you out to have fly hair.][/QUOTE]


Mine:I NEED TO FIND A GOOD FLAT IRON SO I CAN KEEP MY HAIR UP,ON MY OWN,ON THE REUGLAR.
Thank you

I agree with so many more of the Unpopular Opinions in here,but they are too many to list.

 

[kally]

I truly believe and always will believe that God did not orignally create the black womans hair to be this burdonsome, tightly coiled, hard to manage, must careful with each and everything you do to it or else suffer damage type of hair.

 

[OneInAMillion]

jesus loves us alll....
now let me get my change in before the thread goes to heaven.

FIRST AND FOREMOST do not try to make me feel bad or indifferent for having type 3 hair! I didn't ask for it, i was given it. And sometimes it AINT A GIFT!

I LIKE LAYERS!

AIR DRYING IS WHATS REALLY GOOD!

I LIKE "CHEAPIE" CONDITIONERS...INGREDIENTS ARE EVERYTHING

it i want to co-wash eveyday in the winter i will not die!

The flat iron probably didn't damage your hair... you and your technique did

Its not coochie cream until its been on your coochie first! ( i don't use it but hey... to each their own)

I don't believe in growth aids... but lenzi's request is my baby's daddy!

Sometimes a HAIRCUT into a STYLE will look better than just one glob of hair... just keep it healthy!

oh and
stop lying to me... telling me that you care about my hair and it ain't apl/mbl/bsl/ or wl.... i have eyes and a brain! I read these posts too!

Just because your a newbie doesn't excuse some of the repeat posts that i see... it you need elaboration on a lhcf old skool method, than ask for that instead of just repeating the question.

oh and if I only have one strand at APL... well then i'm just 10% at apl and thats exactly what i claim... lol

oh and theres nothing wrong with buying 10million dollars worth of hair products... how else am i supposed to find the right ones?

If you only focus on your haircare methods and neglect diet/nutrition and excersize then you are cheating yourself.

a lady with short and healthy hair is just as credible as someone with longer hair.

OT
No one likes a KNOW IT ALL!!!!!!

Okay thats it for now!

STOP! I'm dying over here and it's not even 8am yet!

 

[*Happily Me*]

Your post is the 1st one yet that I agree with 100%!

BTW this thread is hialrious and telling at the same time.

sure is!

 

[_belle]

-super extensive regimens. . . wrap this, condition it with this conditioner but only for 42 seconds exactly, then deep condition with that, rinse with cow piss, twist it around, stand on your head because it helps to stimulate blood flow to the scalp, then wash it with this, rinse with that, let this sit on your head for 50-11 hours, then when it is 73.4567% dry wet it again, apply gel, wash the gel out, then rinse with herbal tea, and then air dry. . . u have GOT to be kidding me, meanwhile you are talking about how u have such a lo-mani reggie and u are still eating snack wraps and snickers for lunch, but u wonder why u are still bald. get lost.

- IT'S JUST HAIR!!!!!!!!!! stop obsessing over it. if it's healthy and u take care of it, it will grow!!!!! goodness.

 

[_belle]

I love this thread!

Hmmm lets see:

*Knots and tangles aren’t the “norm” if your hair is natural. If you’re constantly getting knots and tangles there’s something that needs to be tweaked in YOUR regimen.

*Licensed Hair Stylists are overrated, most if not all of them are taught how to “style” hair not how to properly care for it.

*Healthy hair doesn’t need to be trimmed every 6-8 weeks.

*CO-Washing can cleanse the hair AND scalp if done correctly.

*Stretching for 6-8 weeks isn’t a stretch, it’s just a very small time frame that barely lessens the possibility of overlapping and over-processing.

*Following someone’s regimen to a “T” wont necessarily give you great results. Everything (products, techniques, tools, methods etc..) will not work the same for E-v-e-r-y-b-o-d-y.

ita. man oh man.

 

[kally]

There is nothing wrong with hating your hair type, nor doyou hate your own race for doing so.

Not all techniques work on type 4 hair.

There is nothing wrong with heat if done properly.

Please believe people when they say a certain product or technique did not work for them.

Just because you chemically straighten your hair does mean you want to be another race.

 

[_belle]

-being natural/relaxed is NOT for everyone. . . if u like your twa and u know what to do with it, then do the natural thing. if you are relaxed, and u know what your hair needs & how not to further damage it (relaxers every week, lol or not washing regularly or moisture/protein balance), then do the relaxed thing.

BUT if you are natural and don't know what to do with it, don' know how to style it, don't really like your texture, etc, why go through all that drama, if you know how to work with relaxed hair, relax it then. Just like if u are relaxed, and don't know what to do with straight hair but slap on some pink oil moisturizer, some jam on the ends, and put it in a ponytail, if it looks rotten, maybe u should transition, because u obviously don't know what to do with your hair.

I thought the goal was to have nice hair that looks nice on you. it can be as long or straight or wavy/curly as the dickins, but if it looks like crap, u look like crap

 

[naturalmanenyc]

Healthy hair doesn’t need to be trimmed every 6-8 weeks.



I agree with this. A friend tried to convince me that stretching 12 - 16 weeks would be a problem since I need to get a trim every 8 weeks?!?! Why? What is the point of trimming off my ends unless they are split? Hair grows from the root so trimming does not make it grow.

 

[cclark1]

Dominican salons are overrated (at least the ones I've visited). The wait time is agonizing, the heat from the blowdryers are hot as Hades and yes they do talk about clients in Spanish! And honestly I get better results from a stylist who knows her way around a flat iron!

Aphogee-I think the devil invented that stuff!

Long thin, unhealthy looking hair is just so unattractive. I have an relative with almost waist length hair that is so dry, thin and damaged. And to me and probably everyone else she looks like a witch. But then again, her nose doesn't help

 

[SparklingFlame]

Trimming does not make your hair grow!! This is a fact, not an opinion.

 

[simplycee]

Cattiness exists. Sometimes the cat house attitude of some makes me go . Some can never be happy for another without feeling the need to talk out the side of the neck (or out the bottom of their a$$).

Jealousy exists. Some will do their best to tear down another in a heartbeat with some snide remark or an okie doke compliment.

We are not all one big sisterhood of the hair, it's always what lies beneath, watch out.

If Veejayjay cream works for you, if horse spray works for you, if curry flakes and chili powder, seaweed, tofu, raw meat, bull semen, benchpressing 550 pound weights and running 5k marathons works for you -Then by God i am happy for you and i will not knock you (some of it makes me go and i hope and pray it's safe ) but i'm honestly glad some folks have found something that works for them.

It's all good to me if it's good for you and you and YOU and YOU will not be be hearing me dissing any body or any one's lifestyle choices, body type/shape, hair, clothing, etc. even in a thread such as this.

sidenote: i always find these types of threads extremely fascinating. they really give you an good inside glance on how the people you interact with actually think and feel about others.

I agree with this entire post.

 

[_belle]

Trimming does not make your hair grow!! This is a fact, not an opinion.

 

[Mortons]

-It's not that type 3 hair is easier to deal with than type 4 hair, it's just that type 3 hair is prettier to most people. If your hair is considered pretty naturally, then you don't have to do a whole lot to it to make it look "acceptable". Type 3ers have their own struggles to deal with, as I've seen it written on this board time and time again. We on LHCF tend to minimize their experiences, and I think that's unfair.

-Natural hair can look good on anyone, as can relaxed hair. If the person looks good, the hair will follow.

-Blonde highlights can look nice on black women. Highlights.

-Skunk hair is not cute. If you can't afford to highlight your whole head, then skip it (this is more for white women). I can't stand to see a brunette with a only the top layer of her hair blonde.

Absolutely

 

[pistachio]

"bad ends are better than no ends" is not a good philosophy---trim those ends!!

stretching isn't for everyone

sometimes heat is a necessary evil especially if you're trying to rock a hair texture you weren't born with

 

[pistachio]

*Ayudera (or however its spelled) regimens. I really think if I started I could not see myself continuing. Its too much and not that serious.
*Stretching for fiftyeleven months. I mean really though, if your not trying to go natural there is no point. The only time I stretch is when I'm broke. It makes my hair break and I look a HAM! I just wait until I see enough NG.
*Cold water rinses. Soooooo I DC, moisturize, use a leave in, and seal. Thats enough. I refuse to suffer.
*No heat. Yall know my reasons. I have been growing my hair since the dates in my Siggy. I grew out that horrid color QUICK using heat. I tried the rollersetting for two months and I was demonic on my "rollersetting" days.
*Water based moistuizers. YEAH I SAID IT lol I think they are great for naturals or "natural" styles like twist outs but if I am wearing my hair straight which is 90 percent of the time, it aint gona work. I went back to my baby: Optimum Oil therapy dry hair and scalp quencher and will never go back. This stuff is more moisturizing than ANYTHING and I dont have to take that extra step to seal.
*Pre Poo's: I mean really, I do enough.
*I think there is such a thing of too much protective styling lol let you hair breathe lol some people (I know most of yall dont apply) do not how to take care of a protective style, walking around with an ashy bun.
*Going above and beyond for a product. I should not have to cross the border, make a ship, get a passport, and sail to Cambodia for a Deep Conditioner. Its not gona happen. If I cant find it in a 5 mile radius of my house, phucket. lol
*Not combing. If you hair is moisturized enough, and you use a shower comb and finger comb first, it is not the end of the world. I walked around looking homeless after 5 weeks post doing this.
*I will never self relax-If I did, Id be bald right now. No way, no how.
*non hair related: This "star rating". If someone gives you 1 star, move on with your life. Its only the internet. When I see a new thread, I def dont pay attention to the rating. Geesh! We are grown women (most of us), who cares?

I will be back with more

ashy bun!! i'm laughing so hard i'm in tears over this!!!

 

[Dposh167]

Okay...okay...I wasn't going to do it BUT...

You don't need hair groupies to have gorgeous hair! You don't need Mary and her friend, and her dog and it's rubber toy Bobo to be shouting you out to have fly hair. If you do, then I it forces me to wonder how flyy your hair really is. I have seen some really gorgeous heads on some ladies that never comment and are never shouted out. That being said, if you do have hair groupies...your hair is just as flyy as it was two minutes ago before you read this post.

i hear u!!!

 

[Sexyred]

LMAO at this thread.....ok here is my contribution....

- Black castor does thicken your ROOTS not your ENDS. It is good for sealing
- A little off topic....not that rating means anything to me but why is it that only the popular members threads get a 5 star rating, they could post about horse fat and cow died and you see people clapping and rating.....I just never understand it.
- I DO NOT BELIEVE IN HAIR TYPING. I have seen some good threads bite the dust because of this. Why should I judge my entire head of hair on some categories someone came up with, call me skeptically but I have seen hair do some crazy things. (I might get stoned for this)
- Sometimes I think we should tell people when they look jacked up or don't say anything at all. Lying to me does not help me
- Lastly, it is just hair don't take it so seriously, I believe people on here take things way too seriously at times. Hair does not define who we truly are.

OK, that's it for now still thinking......

 

[nybeat26]

Gonna go off the page for one second..............



Cattiness exists. Sometimes the cat house attitude of some makes me go . Some can never be happy for another without feeling the need to talk out the side of the neck (or out the bottom of their a$$).

Jealousy exists. Some will do their best to tear down another in a heartbeat with some snide remark or an okie doke compliment.

We are not all one big sisterhood of the hair, it's always what lies beneath, watch out.

If Veejayjay cream works for you, if horse spray works for you, if curry flakes and chili powder, seaweed, tofu, raw meat, bull semen, benchpressing 550 pound weights and running 5k marathons works for you -Then by God i am happy for you and i will not knock you (some of it makes me go and i hope and pray it's safe ) but i'm honestly glad some folks have found something that works for them.

It's all good to me if it's good for you and you and YOU and YOU will not be be hearing me dissing any body or any one's lifestyle choices, body type/shape, hair, clothing, etc. even in a thread such as this.

sidenote: i always find these types of threads extremely fascinating. they really give you an good inside glance on how the people you interact with actually think and feel about others.

I was just thinking the same thing

 

[nybeat26]

I'm LOVIN this thread. Opened my eyes to a lot of things!

I have a lot of unpopular opinions (they are bold):

The health of your hair is 80% internal (proper diet, sleep, exercise, low-stress life) and only 20% external (products, techniques).
External will only offer temporary health, and can make a difference. But internal health is not only long-term, but will give you exponential hair health.

Everyone can LEARN how to stretch/air dry/have a low or no manipulation regimen.
Anyone can successfully air dry, stretch their relaxer, and have a low/no mani regimen if and only if their hair is healthy and they have found the right products that maintain proper moisture/protein hair (soft yet strong hair).

Stretching/air drying/have low-no manipulation regimens are not overrated.
I bet that someone who stretches, air dries, and combs only once a week will retain more length than anyone who uses heat, combs daily, and relaxes once every 8 weeks. And yes, it is possible to do it and still look cute .

Unhealthy hair that does not have the proper protein/moisture balance can not and will not do what healthy, properly-conditioned hair can do.
I think this can explain why some people can’t airdry/stretch/have low-mani without breakage. I was not able to do this before LHCF or in the beginning of my journey. But I can now because my hair is healthy.

If you have to moisturize everyday/twice a day, something is not right.
It can be that your deep conditioner is not moisturizing enough, porosity is off, or your leave-ins do not condition your hair as well as they should.

Sealing with oil after you moisturize is unnecessary.
Sealing with oil does not make my hair retain moisture any longer than if I didn’t seal. It only made my hair dirtier faster, caused build up faster, and made me have to wash my hair more often.

Growth aids.
I think people should worry more about retaining their growth, than increasing their growth. If your hair is breaking as fast as it is growing, then there is no point in using growth aids.

Growth rate is not hereditary.
If all the women in your family has had neck-length hair, and none of them knew the basics of proper hair care, then how do you know the “genetic capability” of your hair?

People making threads asking people to recommend products (without letting people know your hair qualities) is .
When you get 50-11 different suggestions from 50-11 different women, aren’t you more confused than before you even started the thread? Why not let people know your hair type (coarse/fine, etc.). Not only will you get recommendations from women who share your hair qualities, but they will be more concise.

Colored natural hair is not 100% natural.
I think 100% natural means the hair growing out of your scalp the texture and color it is naturally supposed to grow. If you alter either the texture or color, you are not 100% natural.

Ayurveda is not too much/too hard.
There are some people who just take it waaaay too seriously. It really is simple (at least my regi is). It literally takes me 5 minutes to make henna, 5 minutes to apply, and 10 minutes to rinse!

Counting the amount of broken and shed hairs is . Just eye ball it!

Long, tedious regimens.
In the end, it really is just hair! Keep it simple and leave your hair alone.

Man, I talk too much!

Thank you!! I thought that I was the only one that thought that (the bold)

 

[Averoigne]

Petroleum is not the devil. When mixed with oil, it is very effective for sealing ends (after applying moisturizer). I don't think it should be used on the scalp, though.

 

[sunnydaze]

-It's not that type 3 hair is easier to deal with than type 4 hair, it's just that type 3 hair is prettier to most people. If your hair is considered pretty naturally, then you don't have to do a whole lot to it to make it look "acceptable". Type 3ers have their own struggles to deal with, as I've seen it written on this board time and time again. We on LHCF tend to minimize their experiences, and I think that's unfair.

-Natural hair can look good on anyone, as can relaxed hair. If the person looks good, the hair will follow.

-Blonde highlights can look nice on black women. Highlights.

-Skunk hair is not cute. If you can't afford to highlight your whole head, then skip it (this is more for white women). I can't stand to see a brunette with a only the top layer of her hair blonde.

Right...3s often times deal with more frizz (relaxed and natural) than 4s (example, people assuming you don't have a relaxer because your hair is big and frizzy, when in reality you get one every couple months like everyone else erplexed).

Also I also think 4b relaxed hair is the prettiest of all relaxed heads. Every woman that I thought had gorgeous relaxed hair was 4-something.Seems to hang heavier.

 

[DivaRox]

jesus loves us alll....
now let me get my change in before the thread goes to heaven.

FIRST AND FOREMOST do not try to make me feel bad or indifferent for having type 3 hair! I didn't ask for it, i was given it. And sometimes it AINT A GIFT!

I LIKE LAYERS!

AIR DRYING IS WHATS REALLY GOOD!

I LIKE "CHEAPIE" CONDITIONERS...INGREDIENTS ARE EVERYTHING

it i want to co-wash eveyday in the winter i will not die!

The flat iron probably didn't damage your hair... you and your technique did

Its not coochie cream until its been on your coochie first! ( i don't use it but hey... to each their own)

I don't believe in growth aids... but lenzi's request is my baby's daddy!

Sometimes a HAIRCUT into a STYLE will look better than just one glob of hair... just keep it healthy!

oh and
stop lying to me... telling me that you care about my hair and it ain't apl/mbl/bsl/ or wl.... i have eyes and a brain! I read these posts too!

Just because your a newbie doesn't excuse some of the repeat posts that i see... it you need elaboration on a lhcf old skool method, than ask for that instead of just repeating the question.

oh and if I only have one strand at APL... well then i'm just 10% at apl and thats exactly what i claim... lol

oh and theres nothing wrong with buying 10million dollars worth of hair products... how else am i supposed to find the right ones?

If you only focus on your haircare methods and neglect diet/nutrition and excersize then you are cheating yourself.

a lady with short and healthy hair is just as credible as someone with longer hair.

OT
No one likes a KNOW IT ALL!!!!!!

Okay thats it for now!

LOL,LOL-me too, especially at the end of March for the apl reveal(and it's gonna be wetwith back fat showing)

 

[janeemat]

Here's my unpopular opinion....

If your hair was BSL when you started LHCF and now its waist length; I don't get excited...Now if it was nape length length and is now BSL; I am all up and in your fotki.

Yep This is me.

 

[indigodiva]

Petroleum is not the devil. When mixed with oil, it is very effective for sealing ends (after applying moisturizer). I don't think it should be used on the scalp, though.

I was just about to post this. Theres this Nursery Jelly in walmart, basically equate brand vaseline (but its less greasy)..still 100% petroleum oil...it is the ONLY product that lays my hair down ALL day long. I don't really follow hair typing but it changes the appearance of my hair from 3c, to 3b...but everytime I put that stuff on my hair people ask me that stupid question "Oh what are you mixed with"

I just put it on my wet hair and it works...i'm all for natural products everywhere else, like my toothpaste, and body oils, but my hair just likes petroleum

 

[indigodiva]

Originally Posted by SoAnxious12
jesus loves us alll....
now let me get my change in before the thread goes to heaven.

FIRST AND FOREMOST do not try to make me feel bad or indifferent for having type 3 hair! I didn't ask for it, i was given it. And sometimes it AINT A GIFT!

PREACH!

 

[gymfreak336]

I am suprised we ain't been locked dowm

 

[gymfreak336]

My unpopular opinions:

1. Everything won't work for everybody. No one can know your hair like you do, the best they can offer is knowledge on hair's structure and the stats on similar hair. If it seems to work for you, keep on until you have a reason to stop. Just BEWARE that ALL DAMAGE WILL NOT SHOW IN THE SHORT TERM.

2. Sometimes the problem is that the product is expired. It may have been old when you bought it. Try something else for a week.

3. Sometimes the problem is the method. Get more information before you knock the product.

4. It's hard to know the struggles of a different hair type when: a) that's not your hair, and b) they relaxed/permed/texlaxed (fill in the blank) it too. Owning a car is not equal in responsibility to borrowing or renting one.

5. For the love of self, do your proper --CAREFUL-- research before starting ANY kind of supplement regimen. YOUR LIFE IS ON THE LINE.

6. Sulfates, silicones, and the other chemicals you can't pronounce are not NECESSARILY bad. Even vitamin E has a chemical name. Look it up and learn its effects BEFORE you judge.

and finally

7. Everyone doesn't like the same things. If we did, life would be boring.
So if you like to rock your TWA, your afro puff, your bone straight, or your wavy-curly braid out, ROCK THAT! 'Cause as Bruce Bruce would say,
"It looks good on... YOU!"

SAY IT AGAIN! I am now paying for a mistake in August

 

[lisana]

IMO, of all the things we put on our hair and scalp, RELAXERS are the one thing we should be most worried about and the fact that so many of us (myself included) continue to do this is fine but the risk that others take by putting other things on their head makes them no less intelligent or more desperate than those who chose to put relaxers on their scalps...that's all folks!