Let’s normalize in 2025

[Napp]

This is just a fun thread where we give suggestions on hair trends. Try to be creative!

I’ll start:


Let’s normalize textured buns and ponytails! Let take a break from slick backs in 2025

 

[Plushottie]

Hmm let’s normalize doing what you want with your hair or wig. Also let’s test run products and trash anything that doesn’t give you the most high vibe.

 

[awhyley]

This is just a fun thread where we give suggestions on hair trends. Try to be creative!

I’ll start:
Let’s normalize textured buns and ponytails! Let take a break from slick backs in 2025

I'd like for this to extend to edges please.

 

[IDareT'sHair]

@Napp
Nice Thread!

"Let's Normalize our expectations for our Hair.

And Let's take a Break from the Satin Cap in Public Look - even though it matches your "pajama bottoms"

 

[TamaraShaniece]

frizz..... i don't want to fight it.... it is what its going to be.

 

[CoiledOrchids]

taking regular breaks from protective styles

give your scalp time to breathe!!!

 

[snoop]

Have we started normalizing using oils in our hair again?

Knowing about and doing our own hair. I feel like in some spheres we've swung back to the early 90s where it's seen as bad if you give yourselves trims, make your own kitchen mixes, style your own hair and feel like your hair is thriving... all because you're not a licensed cosmetologist and can't possibly know that your hair is "healthy".

 

[GettingKinky]

Have we started normalizing using oils in our hair again?

Knowing about and doing our own hair. I feel like in some spheres we've swung back to the early 90s where it's seen as bad if you give yourselves trims, make your own kitchen mixes, style your own hair and feel like your hair is thriving... all because you're not a licensed cosmetologist and can't possibly know that your hair is "healthy".

There is so much controversy about the whole no oils/no butters method lately. Quite a few people who were following this method have experienced damage to their hair. I’m not sure if it’s from not using oils/butters, or if it’s from using shampoos that are too strong, or the lack of DCing, or lack of leave in conditioner, or detangling with a brush, but some combination of these elements is problematic for some hair types.

 

[GGsKin]

There is so much controversy about the whole no oils/no butters method lately. Quite a few people who were following this method have experienced damage to their hair. I’m not sure if it’s from not using oils/butters, or if it’s from using shampoos that are too strong, or the lack of DCing, or lack of leave in conditioner, or detangling with a brush, but some combination of these elements is problematic for some hair types.

I noticed that too. I subscribe to Afri.can HairGod on YT and he’s been shouting from the rooftops for the longest time- albeit shadily at times - on the negative effects of over cleansing and removing oils and emollients from hair care regimens, especially when the no oils/butters etc was really being pushed by some wash n go stylists. It seems that someone was able to relay his message in a more digestible way. People are now listening, after realising that the condition of their hair was being compromised by such a routine.

 

[GettingKinky]

I noticed that too. I subscribe to Afri.can HairGod on YT and he’s been shouting from the rooftops for the longest time- albeit shadily at times - on the negative effects of over cleansing and removing oils and emollients from hair care regimens, especially when the no oils/butters etc was really being pushed by some wash n go stylists. It seems that someone was able to relay his message in a more digestible way. People are now listening, after realising that the condition of their hair was being compromised by such a routine.

I never really followed AHG, but there are a number of former no oils/butters clients and stylists who are now speaking out as well.

I think it was hard for the original stylists, BGC, to deliver a nuanced message to the masses and now the combination of the rigidity of their method, and the fact that a lot of it spread via sound bites over social media has all come to a head. Add to that the fact that when you hair is curly it’s hard to see damage and you get a perfect storm.

I followed them for years, but I always hated their attitude so I’m enjoying the show now. Luckily I don’t think my hair suffered too much damage, but I’m being hyper vigilant now.

 

[Rocky91]

I wish that wearing your own hair out could be normalized. I would really love to see it. I don't even care how the hair is worn, I'd just like to see more real hair.

 

[snoop]

I never really followed AHG, but there are a number of former no oils/butters clients and stylists who are now speaking out as well.

I think it was hard for the original stylists, BGC, to deliver a nuanced message to the masses and now the combination of the rigidity of their method, and the fact that a lot of it spread via sound bites over social media has all come to a head. Add to that the fact that when you hair is curly it’s hard to see damage and you get a perfect storm.

I followed them for years, but I always hated their attitude so I’m enjoying the show now. Luckily I don’t think my hair suffered too much damage, but I’m being hyper vigilant now.

I don't think that it was hard for them at all. I think that they cashed in and relished in the mis-information that was being spread. They're quite harsh and sometimes outright nasty with the way that they were spreading their message. I didn't follow them (I didn't like their attitude), but I'd never once heard them say that it was for people doing wash n gos. I can be wrong, but I'm assuming that using oils have a negative impact on how wash n gos look and how long they stay defined. They cracked a code for this. But as the debate that there was no place for them in anyone's routine, I never recalled them trying to correct this message.

Another forum member and I spent months going down various rabbit holes looking for the origins of their theories. We were able to find posts on this hair board and on others that discussed MHM, wash n goes, not using oils, how to increase definition... all in ways that could have been repackaged based on post dates and BGCs original videos way back when.
Lorraine Massey also discusses reducing the use of oils somewhere around this time and we know that these ladies were Curly Girl trained.

I could never figure out why people needed to over cleanse if they were using water soluble products. And then we know that oils help to protect the hair. I don't know... it all seemed like the perfect recipe for hair disasters for people who just took everything at face value.

That said, I'd still like to read their book to actually see what it says....


I also found it interesting that they were big supporters of Innersense, but slagged using "dirt" to clean your hair. Innersense has a detox product that is made with clay....

 

[TamaraShaniece]

I went on a no oils & butter trend and my hair thrived in my routine.

At the time, when I switched to the curly girl method (no poo decadence), co washes, clay washes…. These sulfate free, no suds, conditioner feel like cleansers were not strong enough to remove the daily oil / butter build up on my hair. The build up, kept building up, til I had a thick coat on my scalp. Once I finally clarified it away, stopped using oils, my hair actually began ‘absorbing’ my cleaners, conditioners, leave ins, etc. and my hair became extremely healthy.

I used styling foam for my 2 strand twists. Oil would break that foam cast, so I avoided it. Idk what happened, maybe eco styler gel, wash n go, laziness, went back to using butters, maybe some mental health issues…. I let my hair go. I CANNOT not use oils and butters… they make my hair extremely soft… but I also make sure to use a stronger shampoo to remove build up.

In a nutshell… I found NO OILS & NO BUTTERS great when using styling foam for 2 strand twists. I did 2 strands for almost 9 months.

And OILS & BUTTERS are needed for straight hair styles, wash n go’s,

 

[snoop]

In a nutshell… I found NO OILS & NO BUTTERS great when using styling foam for 2 strand twists. I did 2 strands for almost 9 months.

And OILS & BUTTERS are needed for straight hair styles, wash n go’s,

You and your hair are so pretty!!!

I was thinking that hair type matters. I don't use foams, curling custards, or gels to twist my hair because I feel like they make my hair hard. My texture is cottony. But I realized that my sons' texture looks more like yours. For their hair I LCO a I go. On my hair I use either only water or water with a tiny amount of moisturizer, then moisturize and seal when I'm done. I only wear two strand twists.

It's fascinating how our hair behaves so different.

 

[TamaraShaniece]

You and your hair are so pretty!!!

I was thinking that hair type matters. I don't use foams, curling custards, or gels to twist my hair because I feel like they make my hair hard. My texture is cottony. But I realized that my sons' texture looks more like yours. For their hair I LCO a I go. On my hair I use either only water or water with a tiny amount of moisturizer, then moisturize and seal when I'm done. I only wear two strand twists.

It's fascinating how our hair behaves so different.

Thank you for your kind words. I will get my hair like this again. I can’t twist on soaking wet hair… I’ll get those crinkle spider leg looking twists. I can twist it when it poofs from air drying 60% of the way… I remember the poof creating plump twists.

if I braiding, i definitely needs the oils & butters. My stylist slathers that edge control EVERYWHERE

 

[Lylddlebit]

Let's normalize getting to know YOUR HAIR and how it thrives that way you can pass on trends and bandwagons that don't suit it, while embracing all things that help it flourish.

 

[WYSIWYG]

Let’s normalize checking our internal health and caring for our hair from the inside out. For years I struggled with weak hair no matter what products I used or which techniques I practiced. After a serious health scare, I found out I was severely anemic and among other symptoms, my hair was suffering the effects. After two blood transfusions and three IV iron treatments, my health improved and my hair started flourishing. Now I take a regular iron + vitamin C supplement and Vitamin D3 drops daily, as well as collagen peptides in my tea. It took me two years of regular trims to cut the last of my “sick” hair off. I give praise and thanks everyday for my healthy mane.