Broken-record question:Hair type + finger detangling help!

[bronxsoloist]

I don't mean to sound like a broken record
and honestly I thought I had this natural thing down
but I have mistaken myself.
While being natural in the past my hair was always colored
I realized early on as I let the color grow out to start my HHJ
that my natural UNcolored hair, was something I had yet to truly see
or experience, being that I've been a color addict up until 2 years ago.


Anywho I'd always thought I'd known my hair
Since starting this new HHJ I have been PS my hair non stop.
2 strand twists or big box braids. No hair added.
I use all natural and whole foods and mix my own stuff up.
My hairs been flourishing IMO but at the same time I realize
the longer it grows the more I don't know it or understand it
and realize what I thought could work for my hair, doesn't
or maybe it never did?


Back to the story. my question, and photos.
Last night I was going through my 2 day take down wash condition process and ran into a plenty bit of snags while finger detangling my hair.
Which either just started happening, or I'm noticing it more as I'm taking better care of my hair, I think the latter.


Knowing my hair type would help me better figure out different techniques to manage my hair and its soon to come length. Maybe even find a hair twin
Hope to not bore anyone with the photos or my redundant question.
Any tips on finger detagling will help.
Or hair care with any others with hair like mine


Photos below were just taken, haven't braided up this one quarter section left. First few photos sans product, then I added raw yellow shea. The puff puff is sans product and 90% dry.


Thank you all in advance!

 

[faithVA]

I like your picture titles Very cute.

I'm not great with typing but I would guess a 3C with maybe a little 4a. You have more waves than curls.

Your hair looks a little frizzy. What are you using to cleanse and condition with?

When was the last time you dusted your ends?

 

[charmtreese]

In the pics, is the leave out un-manipulated hair or hair that was taken out of braids and being rebraided, freshly washed hair or previously stretched hair?

 

[bronxsoloist]

My hair is VERRRY FRIZZY
I have not dusted in a while because I'm staying away from scissors
Cleanse with Acv clay mix and condition with tre semme
This is a fresh wash, actually i washed it back to back on 2 days.
This is the morning after the 2nd day wash
I dont comb, I dont brush, dont stretch (geez I sound lazzzzzzzzzy)
I rarely/barely mess with it
I take a pseudo Muslim (no offense to anyone) approach and keep it up and covered most of the time.

Thank you for you alls responses.
Cute curly pics by the way!

Do either of you finger detangle your hair?
And in general do you find it better to detangle wet, dry, or damp?

 

[faithVA]

bronxsoloist[/USER];19750887]My hair is VERRRY FRIZZY
I have not dusted in a while because I'm staying away from scissors
Cleanse with Acv clay mix and condition with tre semme
This is a fresh wash, actually i washed it back to back on 2 days.
This is the morning after the 2nd day wash
I dont comb, I dont brush, dont stretch (geez I sound lazzzzzzzzzy)
I rarely/barely mess with it
I take a pseudo Muslim (no offense to anyone) approach and keep it up and covered most of the time.

Thank you for you alls responses.
Cute curly pics by the way!

Do either of you finger detangle your hair?
And in general do you find it better to detangle wet, dry, or damp?

I love clay but I think you are drying your hair out with it. It is sucking all of the oils out of your hair and not able to replenish. You need to find a shampoo bar or straight acv cleanser to cleanse with for a while or forgo cleansing and just cowash for a while. The tangling of your ends is the cuticle being damaged due to dryness. You may need to add some DCs to your regimen for a while. Once the ends get damaged this way I'm not sure they can be salvaged. You will need to condition them regularly to see.

You may want to relegate the clay to once every month or every other month. Once you stop drying your hair out, you will be able to see your curl pattern better and your hair won't be so frizzy.

 

[bronxsoloist]

THANK YOUUUUU
I honestly only clay about every 6 weeks
I co-rinse with my twists every week
and LOC as needed.
The clay driiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiied my hair out this time
BUT IT DIDNT LAST TIME!! (confuzzled)
I noticed a definite definite difference
The first time I used the clay I almost skipped conditioning
this time I HADDD to condition it.

So I'm going to put the clay on the back burner for now, keep that as a body detoxifier instead. I am a coconut oil fien so I am going to just oil rinse as well for a while.

I'm still trying to get this protein moisture balance down

Thank you so much for the insight

 

[bronxsoloist]

Side note!!!
2 washes ago
my hair was wayyyyyyyyyy too soft
and breaking off
did the protein treatment.
Got all nice and strong.
Grrrr now its dried out again
I am determined to figure out what the right combo
Thank you thank you again!!

 

[knt1229]

I read the OP as though it were a poem or spoken word. snaps!

 

[knt1229]

It looks like type 4 hair. But, to type your hair it needs to have no product and no manipulation. Your hair in the pics looks like you had just taken the hair out of twist, so, the curls and waves were created by the twists.

 

[faithVA]

THANK YOUUUUU
I honestly only clay about every 6 weeks
I co-rinse with my twists every week
and LOC as needed.
The clay driiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiied my hair out this time
BUT IT DIDNT LAST TIME!! (confuzzled)
I noticed a definite definite difference
The first time I used the clay I almost skipped conditioning
this time I HADDD to condition it.

So I'm going to put the clay on the back burner for now, keep that as a body detoxifier instead. I am a coconut oil fien so I am going to just oil rinse as well for a while.

I'm still trying to get this protein moisture balance down

Thank you so much for the insight

I understand. I had the same experience. It worked fine for a while. I think I also did a protein treatment and then used clay or vice versa. But I may have used clay two weeks back to back. It may be the pairing of the clay with the protein or it could just be that its an issue in winter.

I am pretty sure it is the clay though. I had this happen last year but I caught it in time.

The oil rinses sound good. Since you are natural, lean more towards moisture versus protein. You should be able to tell when your hair feels soggy.

 

[charmtreese]

I finger detangle mostly! However, I do pull out the seamless wide tooth comb in some areas.

My take on finger detangling is not a strand by strand process like I've seen others do. What I normally do is apply my pre-poo (very oily consistency with some moisturizing conditioner) all over my hair, and then I section it into 4 quadrants (two in front two in back), from there I finger comb one quadrant at a time separating each quadrant into 2 or 3 subsections. Once I have my smaller sections I steam with my Q-redew and finger comb/detangle and finally I twist.

I find it best to finger detangle on damp hair. Also when I finger detangle my goal is not to necessarily rid my hair of all shed hair during the first detangle. When I rinse out the pre-poo, I finger comb again in the shower, and when I apply my DC to towel dried hair Im finger combing...so pretty much my finger detangling process is 3 steps.

 

[charmtreese]

It looks like type 4 hair. But, to type your hair it needs to have no product and no manipulation. Your hair in the pics looks like you had just taken the hair out of twist, so, the curls and waves were created by the twists.

This is what I was thinking. Because my 4b hair looks like OP's pics after I take it out of a braid or twist out.

 

[bronxsoloist]

I have pics of my braid out and have to post them up! I look like a lion!
These aren't a twist or braid out, no product on the puff puff
This is after washing/conditioning (drying my hair out with all kinds of clay!)
I was putting my braids back in and decided to take a pic of a section that I hadn't tackled yet thats why it was about 90%. Too intimidating.

 

[southerncitygirl]

@bronxsoloist

your hair is lovelyyour hair type isn't important its more the porosity, density and thickness of you indivdual strands. on my journey of over a decade i have had much assistance from ppl who are loose curled, wavy, and kinkier hair and my texture is nothing like theirs. also technique & day to day care plays a huge role. for me dusting/trimming every 3-4 months, the loc method switched to lco or moisturizing my hair is 3-4 times a week, washing in sections,as well as hardcore protein treatment 1-2 times a month caused me to have major retention.

also know that within a hair type everyones hair can look & respond to products differently I have seem many 3c-4a chicas whose hair all looks different within the same category and takes to product differently

check out this vid on curl pattern vs hair texture:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIPV8siwzVo

 

[bronxsoloist]

@bronxsoloist

your hair is lovelyyour hair type isn't important its more the porosity, density and thickness of you indivdual strands. on my journey of over a decade i have had much assistance from ppl who are loose curled, wavy, and kinkier hair and my texture is nothing like theirs. also technique & day to day care plays a huge role. for me dusting/trimming every 3-4 months, the loc method switched to lco or moisturizing my hair is 3-4 times a week, washing in sections,as well as hardcore protein treatment 1-2 times a month caused me to have major retention.

also know that within a hair type everyones hair can look & respond to products differently I have seem many 3c-4a chicas whose hair all looks different within the same category and takes to product differently

check out this vid on curl pattern vs hair texture:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIPV8siwzVo

Thank you for the compliment and the vid.
Been natural since forever and still feel lost

I am not sure of the pattern or texture
I consider it afro textured lol
but the pattern is more of a curl spiral wave
still not sure of the density OR porosity
I honestly believe that when it comes to curly hair
no 2 heads are alike so the typing is nill
but I have yet to find anyone with such an
annoyingly lovely unique pattern like mine that it'd be nice
to see how others conquer through it.

I'm glad you got a good regimen going, we should all be so lucky
loc to lco......hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
It's little changes like that ,that make a difference.
As per some earlier advice, I'm holding off on the clay (sad to see it go)
Nixing the protein treatments for a while. Only oil rinses for me.

I think my search for a hair type is slight envy of those that can claim one.