The orginal Fine hair thread 2013

[Evolving78]

When will I learn that curly styles = breakage for my fine strands. Maybe I need to post a sign in my bedroom or something.
I'm getting a trim tomorrow.

How often are you ladies blowdrying with tension method or some other form of blowdrying?

I'd love to wash my hair every week, but that blowdrying is a bit much, so I opt to wash every two weeks, but then I can't DC.

Is blowdrying with a paddle brush bad or is it one of those questions where is it bad for my hair? I'm thinking that I'll wash my hair every 2 wks, blow dry with a paddle brush and just pin it up.

i use the tension method with my hands if that's what you mean, and i do when i flat iron my hair, which isn't often, using medium and cool settings. i detangle with my fingers and a wide toothed comb first to get rid of the tangles. i don't use any brushes of any kind to blow dry my hair.

last year in the summer, i was using the comb attachment and that was the worse thing ever! it was pulling and ripping my hair out. i was so mad i caused a lot of breakage at the crown.

 

[Evolving78]

I've heard that blowdrying with a brush or a comb are both terrible. I've done the tension method. I don't love it, but maybe I need more practice.

Funny you mention braids to stretch. Tonight I washed, conditioned, and left some of the conditioner in. I added castor oil, did about 10 flat twists going back, took it out and pinned my hair up. Surprisingly my hair felt great and I didn't even sit under the dryer. Pros of doing this was: My hair felt great, I could redo this style every five days, it's low manipulation. Cons: My hair is not that long, so the style doesn't look as becoming as I would like it to. This is still a 'curly' style, so I'm not sure how great my ends would turn with this.

Another question for the fine strand ladies: Anyone have thin edges and nape? I've suffered from this since I got relaxers, but I noticed it's gotten worse the older I get. I keep it moisturized, but I'm wondering if something is going on with my follicles in these areas. I've tried castor oil, etc. I'm now doing more scalp massages for these areas. I need something tried and true to strengthen the follicle. Someone also suggested that I use Retina to open get rid of the dead skin on these areas.

my edges have always been fine and thin since the day i was born. but i don't put any tension on them. i wear a bun daily, but nothing is pulled back tight. i don't have an issue with my nape.

 

[temfash]

yodie

I have thin fine edges my nape is ok, I had my last relaxer in 1999. My edges have always been fine naturally but I think permanent damage was done by the relaxers, I only relaxed for about 4 years in total. I've tried every remedy going short of a hair transplant I know my edges are destined to be thin

 

[g.lo]

dang you girls, I went on i bought some silk peptides!

 

[HoneyA]

I'm back to messy buns as a protective style for my ends. I style every morning and moisturise at night. Hoping for maximum retention this year.

 

[sharifeh]

yodie

I don't really have thin edges and nape. I did break my nape when I tried to self relax once though so now I'm growing my nape back out. It's going well. Really the only part of my hair that suffers and gets thin are my ends...

 

[DarkJoy]

dang you girls, I went on i bought some silk peptides!

Sheesh g.lo! You moved FAST! I'm still filling up my cart with other things . Shea, cocoa butter, mango, etc... might as well load up for all my mixtressed products (hair, skin, face) and save on shipping.

We should report back on the peptides and see how they're treating our fine strands! I'll order on Friday.

 

[DarkJoy]

yodie, are you differentiating between low density or just thin edges from damage?

I have low density all around so I wouldn't say my edges are thin for *my* hair and genetics. I get this hair type from my dad's side. His mother had MBL beautiful silver hair when she passed in her 90s. It was also fine and low density as well as his...and now mine.

However, they HAVE thinned on ocassion from tension damage and always return. Keep massaging, it DOES help.

Bublin, I just wonder how your hair can have it both ways? IDK if you can overload quickly and yet have difficulty getting product in at any stage of hair care at the same time? Maybe a chelate to remove mineral deposit? Regular clarifying only removes products, not minerals. Just a thought.

I bought Aubrey Organics Swimmer's Shampoo for DD because she's taking swim lessons. It is supposed to chelate AND clarify. Our water is really hard water here too so I will use it as well and report back. Hopefully it will be a decent compliment to the water filter I keep installed on the shower head.

 

[Bublin]

DarkJoy I'm at a loss too.
I always use ORS Aloe because I have hard water so it's not for the lack of chelating.
I just think my hair needs a good daily moisturiser to be honest. Looking back I have been using sealing type products so whatever my porosity is that isn't going to help.

I've just purchased ORS Olive Oil Girls Moistursing Lotion. It feels very different from the regular green one and glycerin is much lower on the list. Lets see how that works.

I need to look up the differences between Low and High Po again

 

[DarkJoy]

LOL Bublin--it is confusing.

Aloe is supposed to chelate? I can't use it but just curious.

 

[Babygrowth]

Can relaxed girls use these silk amino acids? They sound good but I'm not sure how to use them?

 

[sharifeh]

Can relaxed girls use these silk amino acids? They sound good but I'm not sure how to use them?

Yup I use them especially the night before I relax. There's a whole thread on here on using them to protect previously relaxed hair.

 

[sharifeh]

I got my seamless combs. No more seamed combs for me.

 

[Jobwright]

DarkJoy and Bublin. I didn't know ORS aloe wash chelating. How can you tell? What is the chelating ingredient?

 

[Jobwright]

DarkJoy and Bublin I just did a search and found this thread.

http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=529855

Not sure if this is how you link a thread but hopefully it works.

 

[Bublin]

Yes ORS Creamy Aloe is Chelating (info from this forum and the link that Jobwright posted confirms this as it contains two of the ingredients).

 

[Jewell]

Bublin Ive been eyeing ORS Creamy Aloe for a LONG time, as I have a clarifying poo but not chelating +clarifying. It's a toss up between ORS, Nexxus Aloe Rid, and Redken Cream shampoo for me. Dk which I'll get...still researching. I installed my new shower filter today. I cant wait to wash tonight n feel the difference. Since moving here Ive had dry skin like a mf and its due to the ground water coming thru granite here in nc, where 85% of the water is hard. Mine was so soft in sc.

The filter removes chlorine/chloramines, VOCs, sulfur, iron, rust, sediment, etc and lasts a year. I should have gotten one long ago. Kinda slipped my mind. I got the filter mainly for health reasons. Inhaled chlorine gas from showers is a leading cause of bladder, colon, and other cancers, not to mention blood and lung issues. I dont need anything affecting my health unnecessarily. Gonna buy one for both my families. I wish more ppl knew about this danger. $24.95 a year is a small price for a filter that helps protect your health. should help my fine strands and skin retain more moisture too.

 

[Bublin]

I've never tried those other shampoos Jewell
The ORS one is easily available here in the UK.

 

[Jobwright]

Is there a such thing a sulfate free chelating shampoo?

 

[Jewell]

I've never tried those other shampoos Jewell
The ORS one is easily available here in the UK.

Oh yeah, I forgot you were across the pond! I use products from all 3 lines, but the Nexxus sylver2 used to rave about. And her hair is gorge! The Redken is on ebay n amazon, and I saw it mentioned in a thread here last wk. You know us pj's be lookin and watching for another great product!

 

[mshoneyfly]

dang you girls, I went on i bought some silk peptides!

Did you buy the silk peptides online? If so, whats the link? I am planning to buy SAA next week but I want to check this out first.

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[Jewell]

Is there a such thing a sulfate free chelating shampoo?

Jobwright
I think the Aubrey Organics swimmers shampoo is, as most AO poos are, but I also think the Redken cream lather shampoo is sulfate free too. *think* nah dont quote me, lol. Check JASON naturals too. Lots of good shampoos have sulfates, but I like both with and without, personally.

 

[mshoneyfly]

Sheesh g.lo! You moved FAST! I'm still filling up my cart with other things . Shea, cocoa butter, mango, etc... might as well load up for all my mixtressed products (hair, skin, face) and save on shipping.

We should report back on the peptides and see how they're treating our fine strands! I'll order on Friday.

I feel like I am becoming a bit of a mixologist myself I love mixing my own dc's. I find that buying the ingredients on my own that make products work well for my hair is better and more economical.

What store are you shopping at?

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[mshoneyfly]

Bublin Ive been eyeing ORS Creamy Aloe for a LONG time, as I have a clarifying poo but not chelating +clarifying. It's a toss up between ORS, Nexxus Aloe Rid, and Redken Cream shampoo for me. Dk which I'll get...still researching. I installed my new shower filter today. I cant wait to wash tonight n feel the difference. Since moving here Ive had dry skin like a mf and its due to the ground water coming thru granite here in nc, where 85% of the water is hard. Mine was so soft in sc.

The filter removes chlorine/chloramines, VOCs, sulfur, iron, rust, sediment, etc and lasts a year. I should have gotten one long ago. Kinda slipped my mind. I got the filter mainly for health reasons. Inhaled chlorine gas from showers is a leading cause of bladder, colon, and other cancers, not to mention blood and lung issues. I dont need anything affecting my health unnecessarily. Gonna buy one for both my families. I wish more ppl knew about this danger. $24.95 a year is a small price for a filter that helps protect your health. should help my fine strands and skin retain more moisture too.

If anyone has ever used ORS Olive Oil Relaxer, the neutralizing shampoo that comes in the box is the same formula in the large bottle of Creamy Aloe poo. If it neutralizes the relaxer then its a chelating poo. It removes the chemicals, calcium and other minerals left behind by the relaxer. These minerals are the same kind found in hard water.

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[Bublin]

Yes Yes Yes I'm definetly low porosity.

This young lady described my hair to a T. I was getting all excited because she gave such a thorough description and even the type of products her hair doesn't like, mine doesn't like either.
Even my seemingly over use of shampoo was spot on - us Lo Po's need a good shampoo to get rid of the build up. I just need to start using a non sulphate one!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3t78UdOAfE
:

 

[Lissa0821]

I use ORS Creamy Aloe pretty faithfully as I have hard water. I really like it because it seems to remove all my oils, leave ins and gel from the week without stripping hair. I use it as my first wash followed by a moisturizing shampoo. It just seems everything else just takes so much better in my hair when I do my first wash with ORS.

 

[yodie]

yodie, are you differentiating between low density or just thin edges from damage?

I have low density all around so I wouldn't say my edges are thin for *my* hair and genetics. I get this hair type from my dad's side. His mother had MBL beautiful silver hair when she passed in her 90s. It was also fine and low density as well as his...and now mine.

However, they HAVE thinned on ocassion from tension damage and always return. Keep massaging, it DOES help.

Bublin, I just wonder how your hair can have it both ways? IDK if you can overload quickly and yet have difficulty getting product in at any stage of hair care at the same time? Maybe a chelate to remove mineral deposit? Regular clarifying only removes products, not minerals. Just a thought.

I bought Aubrey Organics Swimmer's Shampoo for DD because she's taking swim lessons. It is supposed to chelate AND clarify. Our water is really hard water here too so I will use it as well and report back. Hopefully it will be a decent compliment to the water filter I keep installed on the shower head.

I have fine, low density hair from my dad's side of the family. I look at people will full edges and just salivate, but I guess it's not in the cards for me.

I can't just air dry and then expect to be able to do something with it, other than twist it up, but twisting compromises my ends. So, it's no blowdrying with a comb, brush, no blowdrying at all - Today is just one of those hair frustration days.

I went to the salon today. Got a trim and my ends were more split than usual due to the twist out. I also need to find a dermatologist. I have some scalp issues such as eczema and who knows what else. No insurance, so I'll have to pay to visit the derm. I'm encouraged.

 

[Soratachi]

The last 2 products are my current shampoo. The Naked is my regular SLS free shampoo and the ORS aloe is for monthly use.

 

[Bublin]

I may try the Naked range again. i can't remember which one I used before but it dried out my hair really badly, it felt stripped. Generally their product range gets bad reviews.

Soratachi is that one moisturising?

 

[sharifeh]

I think the Aubrey Organics swimmers shampoo is, as most AO poos are, but I also think the Redken cream lather shampoo is sulfate free too. *think* nah dont quote me, lol. Check JASON naturals too. Lots of good shampoos have sulfates, but I like both with and without, personally.

oh yeah, i have this shampoo, i didnt even realize it chelated. makes sense as it's for swimmers. duh sharifeh