The orginal Fine hair thread 2013
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Soratachi
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To me the one I am using is not stripping and also I always pre-poo with coconut oil.
You can always try the Faith in nature range that is available at health food stores.
http://www.faithinnature.co.uk/Hair-Care/C/2
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DarkJoy
Bent. Not Broken.
Anyone else never get clumping action? I have to slather massive amount of product to get definition but when dry it looks scraggly and sad. 
erplexed
Oddly, it clumped when I had major color damage but haven't had any definition since the BC last July. This unformed cottonball is my God-given texture but it would be nice to be able to make defined coils without excess goop.
Advice & Tips?
! Thanks!
erplexed Oddly, it clumped when I had major color damage but haven't had any definition since the BC last July. This unformed cottonball is my God-given texture but it would be nice to be able to make defined coils without excess goop.
Advice & Tips?
This is probably a good tip in general to alleviate shampoo stripping
! Thanks!
Nonie
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[USER=343979]DarkJoy[/USER];18217371 said:Anyone else never get clumping action? I have to slather massive amount of product to get definition but when dry it looks scraggly and sad.
Oddly, it clumped when I had major color damage but haven't had any definition since the BC last July. This unformed cottonball is my God-given texture but it would be nice to be able to make defined coils without excess goop.
Advice & Tips?
This is probably a good tip in general to alleviate shampoo stripping
Clumping comes easily to people with big coils because the coils cup each other easily. So if you don't have 4A curls then the only way I know for getting uniform clumping is with shingling. This is why I personally think WNG on 4B hair looks like a HAM and unkempt.
Wouldnt that be for no lye relaxers only? I use lye relaxers, so my neutralizing shampoo is not designed to chelate since lye relaxers dont contain calcium hydroxide. No lye relaxers are why too many Black women have severe dryness and breakage, from using box relaxers and getting calcium buildup. The one time a no lye relaxer was unknowingly applied to my hair, I could not for the life of me remedy the dryness associated with it. Thanks for the suggestion, I will try the ORS creamy aloe.
mshoneyfly
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Oh yeah! I forgot about the lye formula. The threat of calcium buildup is why I chelate/clarify twice a month now. Even though I am texturized now I think a lye relaxer would leave too much texture for *me*. Just letting everyone know that the creamy aloe in the big bottle is the same one from the perm box. The same goes for the ORS Replenishing Conditioner.
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Aggie
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There are many out there and the ones that I have personally used are:
Elucence Clarifying Shampoo
Aubrey Organics Green Tea Shampoo
Enjoy sulfate-free Cleansing shampoo
Keracare 1st Lather Shampoo
Avalon Organics Rosemary Mint Shampoo (green and white bottle)
There are sulfate-free neutralizing shampoos out there as well and the 2 I have right now are:
Chi Brilliance Neutralizing Shampoo (orange bottle)
Elucence Acidifying Shampoo
I'm sure there are many many more but these are the ones I have on hand. I have used up the Avalon Organics Rosemary Mint but I need to replenish that one - it smells divine
plus it works!
DominicanBrazilian82
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I use a lye relaxer and only recently have I added the ORS Creamy Aloe shampoo prior to the neutralizing conditioner that comes with the relaxer (Linange). Not too sure if I will keep this step this weekend when I relax, but it didn't hurt when I did do it. I chelate once every 3-4 weeks so I have no real need to do it after I relax unless it falls on a time that I am suppose to do it. I like for my hair to be heavily oiled and conditioned (prepoo) before I chelate as my hair feels really stripped afterwards.
coolsista-paris
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i didnt know either! and i use it to clarify.
MileHighDiva
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DarkJoy
Bent. Not Broken.
I'm thinking the Aphogee 2 Min is a keeper. I tried it a couple days ago and my hair is still on my head! It does have amodimenthicone and cones usualy break my hairs. But so far--nothing! It feels stronger too and I hardly have any breaks with style manipulation. It doesn't appear to be drying out either
I will use the Aphogee 2x a month and the next full wash after, will use the Swimmers shampoo to keep the 'cone off. So that's 2x a month Aphogee and 2x a month Swimmers shampoo on alternating weeks. All other times will be cone-free co-washing and DCs which I do 3x a week.
Think I'm getting a regular fine-hair freindly reggi down! woohoo!
I will use the Aphogee 2x a month and the next full wash after, will use the Swimmers shampoo to keep the 'cone off. So that's 2x a month Aphogee and 2x a month Swimmers shampoo on alternating weeks. All other times will be cone-free co-washing and DCs which I do 3x a week.
Think I'm getting a regular fine-hair freindly reggi down! woohoo!
Evolving78
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i use Mizani Butter Blends Chelating/neutralizing Shampoo. i used it today. my hair needed it!
coolsista-paris
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apoghee 2 min is à staple for me. i love it
quirkydimples
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I use this, too, once a month. I was using a garlic shampoo to help with shedding, but it's not helping, so my monthly shampoo will go back to being this. I cowash at least once a week, but usually two or three times.
Evolving78
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i will be using this weekly. i am really working on trying to make my hair stronger.
mshoneyfly
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I used the ors creamy aloe poo last night. I followed with an amla cassia gloss. My hair feels strong, soft and moist after pooing, dcing and conditioning with shea moisture moisture retention, deep masque and restorative conditioner 
ajargon02
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Anyone else never get clumping action? I have to slather massive amount of product to get definition but when dry it looks scraggly and sad.
Oddly, it clumped when I had major color damage but haven't had any definition since the BC last July. This unformed cottonball is my God-given texture but it would be nice to be able to make defined coils without excess goop.
Advice & Tips?
This is probably a good tip in general to alleviate shampoo stripping
The color probably loosened ur texture, thus the uniform clumping. Now one can't create waves/curls if ur hair doesn't naturally do it, BUT I so have a tip.
If you twist w/ a oil based product like "let's jam" jelly & have ur twists in for a day or so, then, apply a gel like ic fantasia or any gel w/ strong hold, in a downward motion while your hair is still twisted. Let it dry completely. Untwist, step in the shower & let the water lightly wet/rinse ur hair. Once ur out of the shower, either use a t shirt, paper towel or microfiber towel & gently scrunch till the water stops dripping.
When ur hair dries, you may have some nice definition & curl uniformity. That's what I did to get the look in my avatar. Now that my color is gone, & my hair is longer, as long as I wet my hair, it curls & waves & I jst set it w/ conditioner.
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Eta: if ur cuticle is closed, it will showcase your natural texture. Some use an acv mix or aloe juice, or cold water. As long as the product pH is on point btwn 4.5-5.5 it shld encourage the cuticle to close.
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I'm fine haired and high porosity, 4a, natural since 2009. I'm working on MBL right now and hoping for WL by December this year. I've read through a lot of the thread. I agree with lots of points already made...
I do wear my hair out in braid outs and wash and goes for stretches of time. There's no point to growing out hair, for me to never see it. I do long-term protective style, however, and my hair is always up at home. I also wash my hair loose. I simply cannot be bothered with taking braids or twists out and putting them in while in the shower. I just don't have time for that. I wash and condition loose. Once out of the shower, I then part off sections and finger detangle and put in braids (usually) it takes maybe 30-45 mins to style.
I want to start doing regular hot oil treatments. I see how shiny Alicia St. James hair is and I want to get to that without it being oily. My hair tends to be dull due to the porosity.
- low manipulation/ protective styles
- keeping hair clean
- weekly DC and very regular protein (my DCs are protein or collagen)
- regular trims (every 4 months I take 1/8- 1/4" off)/ S&D splits and ssk's daily
- NO permanent color. my hair does alright for a while then it's breakage city
- finger detangling almost exclusively
I do wear my hair out in braid outs and wash and goes for stretches of time. There's no point to growing out hair, for me to never see it. I do long-term protective style, however, and my hair is always up at home. I also wash my hair loose. I simply cannot be bothered with taking braids or twists out and putting them in while in the shower. I just don't have time for that. I wash and condition loose. Once out of the shower, I then part off sections and finger detangle and put in braids (usually) it takes maybe 30-45 mins to style.
I want to start doing regular hot oil treatments. I see how shiny Alicia St. James hair is and I want to get to that without it being oily. My hair tends to be dull due to the porosity.
coolsista-paris
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it does help and it doesnt dry out my hair. its à keeper for my hair.
i ve tried différent dc and.i.havent found the one for my hair.
i actually use apoghee 2 min for about 3 hours or overnight. its.the only thing giving me good results.
coolsista-paris
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oh my. im so busy that every week wash can be hard for me. i wash every 10-14 days.
work+kids+studying at home too. tired like hell .
i.didnt know that hot oil treatments make hair.shiny.
I can highly recommend the ORS HaiRepair Sulphate Free Shampoo.
It's very moisturising and got my hair and scalp very clean.
As I'm Low Porosity I have been heating up everything that I put on my hair and it's working, the moisture is being forced into the strands. If I don't heat up the actual product I will sit under a hooded dryer ie after I apply my leave-in i'll sit under the dryer for 5 minutes so my cuticles can open up.
It's very moisturising and got my hair and scalp very clean.
As I'm Low Porosity I have been heating up everything that I put on my hair and it's working, the moisture is being forced into the strands. If I don't heat up the actual product I will sit under a hooded dryer ie after I apply my leave-in i'll sit under the dryer for 5 minutes so my cuticles can open up.
Evolving78
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oh your hair loves protein! i leave it on for 5 mins in the shower. i rinse it out and then i use a moisturizing deep conditioner for 15-30mins. i try to get under the dryer with it. i had a bad experience with Aphogee 2 step (fell asleep with it) and it gave me protein overload. it took months to get my hair back in order. so i don't mess around with any type of protein for a long length of time.
I feel like I am becoming a bit of a mixologist myself
What store are you shopping at?
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laylaaa
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How do you ladies prepare your hot oil treatments? Is the oil actually hot? On dry or wet hair? Sooo confused!
On a side note, I'm getting seriously impatient with my henna schedule. It's made my hair so much thicker (as in almost twice as thick, no other real benefits whatsoever t) that I can't get enough of it and I'm only on my second application of Jamila. Currently undecided between doing a weekly henna or a gloss to tide me over... but glosses are for colou and I want conditioning!
On a side note, I'm getting seriously impatient with my henna schedule. It's made my hair so much thicker (as in almost twice as thick, no other real benefits whatsoever t) that I can't get enough of it and I'm only on my second application of Jamila. Currently undecided between doing a weekly henna or a gloss to tide me over... but glosses are for colou and I want conditioning!
itsjusthair88
Chronically at BSL -_-
This thread is just what I needed! I'm a fine, 4A, natural, and no idea what length I am and I am noticing some serious issues. My biggest problems are: I can't stick with a regimen, I get nasty SSK's, I like twists but lately they won't stay twisted and the shed hairs are knotting at the ends, retention has become a no factor and I don't use protein, AT ALL.
I like my twists, they got my from ear length to APL in about 2 years (or a little less), but lately, they have been not so good. I have been using the LOC method, which seems to be working like magic (I took my medium twists down and my hair felt pretty great) but I really need to add protein. Can anyone suggest some ways to add protein to my regimen? I want to start using a Keratin reconstructer, but I'd like one I can find on the ground. Also, I am going to start trying a hot oil prepoo treatment with coconut and EVOO, and see if it helps. I'm trying to get to BSL this year and waist is my ultimate goal.
I like my twists, they got my from ear length to APL in about 2 years (or a little less), but lately, they have been not so good. I have been using the LOC method, which seems to be working like magic (I took my medium twists down and my hair felt pretty great) but I really need to add protein. Can anyone suggest some ways to add protein to my regimen? I want to start using a Keratin reconstructer, but I'd like one I can find on the ground. Also, I am going to start trying a hot oil prepoo treatment with coconut and EVOO, and see if it helps. I'm trying to get to BSL this year and waist is my ultimate goal.
Babygrowth
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I need to get into oil prepoos before washing... I stopped out of pure laziness...
mshoneyfly
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laylaaa
Have you tried the Mehendi henna or the Sukesh from hennasooq.com? The sukesh was my first experience with ayurvedic powders. It was really awesome! I got a nice bounce, body for days, shine, moisture and strength. I used as a gloss.
I always mix my powders with a natural conditioner. I tried the mehendi once too. I liked this one too
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