Women who alter their texture but still say they're natural.....

[danniegirl]

What about the naturals you only twistout or braidout their hair and claim that it is their "natural" hair texture? What is the difference between a person with 4a/b hair who wears twistouts to have 3c/b-looking hair and never wears their hair "natural" (wash-n-go)? That confuses me. How are you not altering your hair? It my not be chemical, but GOD didn't create your hair like that. If god didn't create it, then it ain't "natural".

Now you are reaching so far with this

(by your terms) natural hair is un-combed, un-styled, non manipulated hair? Can it be washed at all or does it have to be naturally dirty.


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[LunadeMiel]

Wow... I never knew people actually believe relaxed/texlaxed hair was natural. IMO natural a person who's natural sports their hair as it grows out of their scalp. Heat training and relaxers are different paths to the same end. If your hair looks nothing like the way it grows out of your scap then no, I don't consider you natural. Hair styles (like twist out, brad outs..etc) are different because the hair can FULLY revert back to it's original state.

 

[Poohbear]

What about the naturals you only twistout or braidout their hair and claim that it is their "natural" hair texture? What is the difference between a person with 4a/b hair who wears twistouts to have 3c/b-looking hair and never wears their hair "natural" (wash-n-go)? That confuses me. How are you not altering your hair? It my not be chemical, but GOD didn't create your hair like that. If god didn't create it, then it ain't "natural".

I tried to make this point in an old thread about this same subject. No one got it.

Dang-- so 4's can't claim their hair is natural because they choose to wear consistent braid outs? Y'all go hard in here.

Now you are reaching so far with this

(by your terms) natural hair is un-combed, un-styled, non manipulated hair? Can it be washed at all or does it have to be naturally dirty.


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Sugarhoney wasn't saying any of that!!! She was trying to make a point with her post.

 

[Whimsy]

This thread got so extra.

 

[danniegirl]

I tried to make this point in an old thread about this same subject. No one got it.




Sugarhoney wasn't saying any of that!!! She was trying to make a point with her post.

What is the point because the last time I checked styling hair without the use of chemicals does not alter your hair texture at all


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[Keen]

personally I don't care what other women decide to call their own heads.

I don't care either but don't be mad if you get the side eye from me.

 

[MyInvisibleChyrsalis]

Hmmmmmm.....

 

[Poohbear]

What is the point because the last time I checked styling hair without the use of chemicals does not alter your hair texture at all


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She's saying how come other people cannot claim to be natural even though their hair texture is altered in some type of way, whether it's chemicals, heat, color, styling, etc. Everyone is quick to say chemical processed hair, heat processed hair, or colored hair is NOT natural because it alters the texture... why isn't styled hair taken into consideration? Styles alter the texture. Yes, it's temporary, but still, it gives the appearance of a different look just like chemicals, heat, and color. Hope that makes sense.

 

[nzeee]

^^it makes logical sense but it's still a fallacy. How is it not clear that chemical texture changes and styling on unaltered hair are completely different things? I would never leave my hair with a WNG past TWA length cuz the resulting detangling would make me weep and curse. Does that mean I am never wearing my hair in it's natural state? Why do people get weird when trying to make a point?

Anyhoo I don't know OP so I can't determine the motivation for this thread but it's an interesting topic. I didn't know there were people who thought relaxers and texurizers were natural.

 

[Roux]

Hmmm... I don't get it either.

I also don't get it when darkskin chics run around on a message board with an avatar that looks white with blonde hair and is always worried about other chics hair and their hair type... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

OP, clearly you have an issue with someone on this board and since you chose NOT to PM them and make this silly post instead....

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[bunnie82]

What about the naturals you only twistout or braidout their hair and claim that it is their "natural" hair texture? What is the difference between a person with 4a/b hair who wears twistouts to have 3c/b-looking hair and never wears their hair "natural" (wash-n-go)? That confuses me. How are you not altering your hair? It my not be chemical, but GOD didn't create your hair like that. If god didn't create it, then it ain't "natural".

so lemme get this straight....so because i don't choose to wear my hair in a "fro" i'm not natural??!!! GTFOH!!! that doesn't even make sense! a man created combs....God didn't do that....so since you use a comb you're not natural....shoot...you're only really natural if you have dreads....

please think before you write some off the wall stuff on here...."only a wngo is natural" HA!

it is too early in the mornining....lawd have mercy....

 

[danniegirl]

She's saying how come other people cannot claim to be natural even though their hair texture is altered in some type of way, whether it's chemicals, heat, color, styling, etc. Everyone is quick to say chemical processed hair, heat processed hair, or colored hair is NOT natural because it alters the texture... why isn't styled hair taken into consideration? Styles alter the texture. Yes, it's temporary, but still, it gives the appearance of a different look just like chemicals, heat, and color. Hope that makes sense.

Once again styling does not alter the texture in itself it may LOOK different by site only but everything else is not altered at all not the texture not the pattern not then density nothing changes besides the look nothing.

So saying that braiding twisting or curling hair changes the hairs natural state is false it doesn't even change it temporarily nothing changes but the appearance.


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[Roux]

QUITE A FEW OF YOU NEED THIS

 

[greenandchic]

Dang-- so 4's can't claim their hair is natural because they choose to wear consistent braid outs? Y'all go hard in here.

Tell me about it! I was just waiting for the braid/twist out naysayers calming they/we are "faking the funk".

WnG is only natural and Lord don't even think about putting gel of any kind on your hair.

 

[lala]

So 99.8% of the naturals on LHCF are delusional according to some folks. Nobody, especially someone paying $6.50 to gossip is an expert on the subject of everybody else's hair up in here.

 

[greenandchic]

^^it makes logical sense but it's still a fallacy. How is it not clear that chemical texture changes and styling on unaltered hair are completely different things? I would never leave my hair with a WNG past TWA length cuz the resulting detangling would make me weep and curse. Does that mean I am never wearing my hair in it's natural state? Why do people get weird when trying to make a point?

Anyhoo I don't know OP so I can't determine the motivation for this thread but it's an interesting topic. I didn't know there were people who thought relaxers and texurizers were natural.

so lemme get this straight....so because i don't choose to wear my hair in a "fro" i'm not natural??!!! GTFOH!!! that doesn't even make sense! a man created combs....God didn't do that....so since you use a comb you're not natural....shoot...you're only really natural if you have dreads....

please think before you write some off the wall stuff on here...."only a wngo is natural" HA!

it is too early in the mornining....lawd have mercy....

Once again styling does not alter the texture in itself it may LOOK different by site only but everything else is not altered at all not the texture not the pattern not then density nothing changes besides the look nothing.

So saying that braiding twisting or curling hair changes the hairs natural state is false it doesn't even change it temporarily nothing changes but the appearance.


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Me thinks if this hair typing business never existed, we wouldn't be so divided on the issue. I myself have been guilty of buying into it at one time or another, but this is just crazy. Now we are picking apart people who wear TWIST OUTS for Christ sake. What's next??

 

[tiffal1922]

heyy... I was here!

 

[Rocky91]

alrite. *** it. i'm not natural then.
I color my hair.
I'm a type 4 who wears braidouts mostly.
I straighten once a month or whatever.

y'all happy now?

 

[LuvlyRain3]

I don't really care what other people label their hair as. Its your hair and your life. You can be as delusional as you want to be.

I'm not even going to get into what's really considered natural. I mean it just can't be that serious.

 

[reeko43]

Wow, what a crazy thread! "I hate when a woman claims...." I hate when a woman wears...." "I hate when someone calls their hair ....." Seriously? Why? Some of you really need to ask yourselves why the action of others, which don't change you in any way affect how you feel.

Do some of you really think that because you are natural now you have a leg up on someone else? Do you have a problem with others trying to stake claim to your perceived position in life? I didn't pledge nappy alpha nappy so I am a GDI when it comes to my hair.

Like someone mentioned in this thread, there are many definitions for a single word. So if I want to call myself transitioning, part natural, natural, part relaxed part permed 1a, 3c, 5ddd, who really gon check me boo? There is no self appointed natural police that is permitted to define what I do with me and mine. I read and absord advice and then I do what I do.

 

[hola_lo2002]

Damn, what a mixed feeling thread!!! I thought that being natural meant not chemically alter your texture. I believe you can do whatever to it to change its physical aspect as long as you don't change its chemical components.

 

[Daeuiel]

To the people sayin "I don't care what other women do with their hair..." Ma'am...WHY ARE YOU HERE?!?! Like, you paid $6.50 for what?! Obviously you care to some extent what other women do with their hair, so stop. STOP, I say!

When I've had these conversations, it wasn't because I asked them, it's because they asked me about my hair and decided to tell me about theirs. That's when they reveal that they texturize, BKT, etc and still call it natural. As someone pointed out, they don't do it to deceive, they just really don't know. As for the Decepticons, I haven't met too many of those.

I got a laugh out of that one Decepticons! So everyone who only wears their hair in a shrunken afro is an Autobot? Decepticons have more fun :angeldevi

 

[bunnie82]

Damn, what a mixed feeling thread!!! I thought that being natural meant not chemically alter your texture. I believe you can do whatever to it to change its physical aspect as long as you don't change its chemical components.

you would think...
welp....off to relax my hair now since today i found out i'm not natural anyway....

 

[MaryJane3000]

I was here!

 

[Sugar]

Oh my at the OP and oh my at the direction this thread took...

 

[Kinkyhairlady]

Hmmm... I don't get it either.

I also don't get it when darkskin chics run around on a message board with an avatar that looks white with blonde hair and is always worried about other chics hair and their hair type... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

OP, clearly you have an issue with someone on this board and since you chose NOT to PM them and make this silly post instead....

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I'm not sure why you assume I have an issue with anyone funny thing is I am not friends with anyone on the board nor do I do PMs like that. The fact of the matter is that people do say their natural when they have some kind of chemical on their hair but that is their business. It's an observation I made about some folks IRL not on this board. I rarely even come in the hair section so I don't even look at hair pics like that. Some of you ladies are too funny.

 

[EllePixie]

I can actually see the braid out/twist out point when it comes to judging others. When you tear down women for relaxing or belittle them for "not accepting their natural texture," yet you will not be caught dead out of the house without a twist out because you "don't like afros," I have to look at you like . But they're still natural, just high and mighty for no reason.

 

[nzeee]

Wait elliepixie, I get what you're saying but not everyone has curl envy. There are many whose texture makes a WnG or unshrunken fro setback city due to tangling and resulting breakage. Let's not throw e'rybidy under the bus now.

And also let's refocus here: this thread was not about people altering look of hair through styling. Continuing to discuss braideouts etc just gives that argument undue merit.

 

[EllePixie]

Wait elliepixie, I get what you're saying but not everyone has curl envy. There are many whose texture makes a WnG or unshrunken fro setback city due to tangling and resulting breakage. Let's not throw e'rybidy under the bus now.

And also let's refocus here: this thread was not about people altering look of hair through styling. Continuing to discuss braideouts etc just gives that argument undue merit.

I understand that, I am not referring to everyone who wears braid/twist outs at all. I am referring to women who state that they do not like their afro hair and don't find afros attractive, and therefore wear other styles, but believe they have "overcome" issues with their hair because they stopped getting relaxers and act as if all women who get relaxers hate their hair. Just saying that throwing all the shade and sitting on a pedastal isn't necessary. Apologies if that was not clear in my previous post.

Regarding the OP...liars also make me but I don't really ask women how they got their hair to look how it does, so it's not something I come across often. Some people are SUPER strict in their definition of natural, nixing color, henna, baking soda, products, etc etc...it's too much. It's almost as if someone asks if you are natural you have to give a billion caveats so you don't look like you're faking. "Yes, I'm natural, but I put baking soda in my conditioner once every other month, colored my hair over a year ago, flat iron it twice a year, have used henna approximately six times (but you gotta mention how many times you used amla too), do DCs with steam weekly, and some of my products have coconut milk." **Card revoked**

 

[Your Cheeziness]

@EllePixie - FIRST of all...(rolls neck)...You can't be posting up in here with no avi or siggy all incognegro. Did you relax? I'm saying... The nerve! Go to the corner!

Antyway, yes, we are waaaaay off coarse (pun intended). But don't we always end up here anyway? (Looks at calendar) It's almost Sunday.

ETA: And if people can't even agree what "natural" is on this board, then how are you going to be worried about what someone else calls their hair? The irony.