Women who alter their texture but still say they're natural.....

[omegachick31]

Re: Women who alter their texture but still say they're natural...

their brastrap hiked up to the nape of their necks[/B]..... I cannot do anything but shrug and keep it moving.

For some reason I think my brastrap is too low, but I digress...people especially women tend to have a tendency to alter things and pretend like it's natural... caring about it is really a waste of energy...an easy resolution to the problem is for "true" natural women just to start saying they are organic can't get any naturaler? than that...

 

[Bublin]

I think it makes them look "ignorant"...
For example the reviews for this product http://www.sallybeauty.com/kids-texture-softener/SBS-110520,default,pd.html?cm_vc=SEARCH
Only one woman seems to know its still a relaxer LOL
I get every isn't hip to hair forums etc but why fake the funk?

I just read some of the reviews.....shocking

 

[Bublin]

Re: Women who alter their texture but still say they're natural...

For some reason I think my brastrap is too low, but I digress...people especially women tend to have a tendency to alter things and pretend like it's natural caring about it is really a waste of energy...an easy resolution to the problem is for "true" natural women just to start saying they are organic can't get any naturaler? than that...

I really like that - 'Organic'.

I'm gonna start describing my non chemicaled hair as Organic - i don't even wear extensions (well, apart from the odd failed attempt at wearing a half wig ).

 

[DDTexlaxed]

I just read some of the reviews.....shocking

How many of us believed the same thing before we joined LHCF? I know I did. The average person just doesn't know. If their hair has texture, they are natural. That's their thinking pattern.

 

[Bublin]

How many of us believed the same thing before we joined LHCF? I know I did. The average person just doesn't know. If their hair has texture, they are natural. That's their thinking pattern.

Hun - I personally ALWAYS knew that a texturiser was still a chemical. I have never thought otherwise. I had my first relaxer around the age of 13 and even had Lesuire Curl (remember that??!!) at some point and i always knew i was putting chemicals in my hair and on my scalp.

Besides - how can something that you have to wear gloves for, look at the clock for, run to the sink for and burns your scalp till it scabs NOT be a chemical.

 

[chocolat79]

Meh, never really run into that many women who try to "lie" about and even if I did, I guess I wouldn't care too much. If it helps them sleep at night.....#kanyeshrug

 

[Lady S]

I could seriously care less. I really don't think it's that deep. Texlax, heat train, dye it, slather yogurt & lemon on it, I truly do not care. Technically my twist outs, bantu knot outs and braid outs alter my texture. Hot comb and flat irons change textures. The only difference is that when I shampoo it, it goes back to my natural texture. Big whoop.

Other then being confused for a second, it really doesn't impact me.

 

[Napp]

What people choose to label themselves is their own business. I used to care. I used to want to help inform people.... But now....nah.

I used to go so hard in the paint for natural hair. now i cant even give a hairy rats ***

 

[DDTexlaxed]

Hun - I personally ALWAYS knew that a texturiser was still a chemical. I have never thought otherwise. I had my first relaxer around the age of 13 and even had Lesuire Curl (remember that??!!) at some point and i always knew i was putting chemicals in my hair and on my scalp.

Besides - how can something that you have to wear gloves for, look at the clock for, run to the sink for and burns your scalp till it scabs NOT be a chemical.

Don't get me wrong, ITA they are not natural, but when people think of natural, they think if you see texture in the hair....you're natural. Even if you under processed yr relaxer...you're natural. It's just commonplace thinking.

 

[manter26]

I think it makes them look "ignorant"...
For example the reviews for this product http://www.sallybeauty.com/kids-texture-softener/SBS-110520,default,pd.html?cm_vc=SEARCH
Only one woman seems to know its still a relaxer LOL
I get every isn't hip to hair forums etc but why fake the funk?

It's scary that those people don't even know what they are putting in their hair.

I've heard a lot of people say they are natural because they're hair came out under-processed. Even Fgrogen (sp?) on youtube said that. It's as if relaxed means bone straight only... I've also had someone tell me their hair was natural and when I questioned them on it they said it was hot comb...and not heat damaged either...I just gave them the because it didn't look at all natural to me. I was tempted to put some water on it.

 

[Roux]

for some reason I think this thread is about a LHCFer. and I am so damn tired of people asking why people, on a hair forum of all places, care about hair.

 

[robot.]

If I were texlaxed/texturized, I would tell strangers on the street (who asked), that was natural, for simplicity's sake. While LHCF and other hair boards don't exist in a vacuum, we are fairly miniscule when it comes to the greater population as it pertains to hair care.

I'm not gonna try to explain to someone the differences and subtleties of texlaxed, natural, and relaxed hair, especially when my hair has an obvious curl pattern (and I don't mean 3's, I mean a kinky/curly/cottony texture) and otherwise looks "natural."

 

[Meritamen]

for some reason I think this thread is about a LHCFer. and I am so damn tired of people asking why people, on a hair forum of all places, care about hair.

Exactly. Yes people it is that serious.
I'm not going to correct a woman who is trying to pass her chemically relaxed hair as natural -- she will just get a side eye -- but I don't like misinformation really. I'm annoyed more by things like the Miss Jessie's silkening treatment or the Just for Me softener kit being marketed as things that will make your hair more manageable but flat out refuse to inform their customers that what they are using is a chemical that will relax their hair to some degree.

 

[Curlybeauty]

Honestly, a heat trained natural is the same as a relaxed/texlaxed/BKT head.

You are altering your curl pattern to make your hair more manageable and to achieve a more desired look.

Lets not compare heat training to coloring hair

 

[RocStar]

I just wanted to say that...

MANY PEOPLE LIE ABOUT MANY THINGS!!!

Height, weight, age, weaves, lace fronts, salary, status, history, purpose for starting threads, etc.

 

[carameldelight87]

To the people sayin "I don't care what other women do with their hair..." Ma'am...WHY ARE YOU HERE?!?! Like, you paid $6.50 for what?! Obviously you care to some extent what other women do with their hair, so stop. STOP, I say!

When I've had these conversations, it wasn't because I asked them, it's because they asked me about my hair and decided to tell me about theirs. That's when they reveal that they texturize, BKT, etc and still call it natural. As someone pointed out, they don't do it to deceive, they just really don't know. As for the Decepticons, I haven't met too many of those.

 

[CurleeDST]

It isn't that deep to me. We all have our separate paths.

 

[BraunSugar]

I think I get the original intent of this thread. I understand. Something that I also find funny is when people are accused of altering their curl pattern or whatever just because it's not as tight as someone else feels it should be. We all aren't naturally type 4s & when somebody has looser hair texture, folks wanna call their race or hair methods into question. I can't tell somebody that they are heat training, texturizing, etc. unless I am standing there watching them LoL. If somebody tells me that they are natural, all I can do is believe them unless I have some concrete proof that they aren't.

 

[SavannahNatural]

When I first started transitioning I claimed I was natural. I was a member of LHCF but didn't use it at all. I just figured because I declared I wouldn't relax anymore I was then automatically a natural.

I also used to think that being natural was about the products you used on your hair. Products that were, in fact, all natural. At one point I decided to do that as well, but got lost trying to find something I liked and that left my hair feeling like the products I had been using. I did still have a relaxer, however. How confused was I!!??

Once I realized the right word for what I was doing was transitioning I used that to no end. Not just for me but for my sistagirls who claimed to be natural as well! I try and do my part, however I can't run around pouring water on hair and pointing just to prove a point.

My last and final point in regards to this topic is that if this isn't in reference to an LHCFer then they're confused! Just like people who walk around saying they have a perm, haven't we figured out that's not the right word, yet?!!

 

[Coco*Colada]

When I joined I didnt know any of the terms. I just knew I was flat-ironed without any chemicals , breast milk , salt or any of that stuff. When I first made a siggy I put my hair type then I put stretched because I assumed that meant stretched out by being flat-ironed I now realize it doesn't mean flat-ironed but I'm still not certain of the exact definition. Is there like an lhcf term dictionary? I think thats a good idea. Just my 2 cents .

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[silenttullip]

I know what u mean about transitioning... When my mom and little sister "tansitioned" it was so irritating for them to keep saying "now that I'm natural" but I just shrugged it off. I mean there's people who think a big chop is taking relaxed hair and cutting a lot of length or all the dead ends but if I tried to explain we'd fall out over it.

When I first started transitioning I claimed I was natural. I was a member of LHCF but didn't use it at all. I just figured because I declared I wouldn't relax anymore I was then automatically a natural.

I also used to think that being natural was about the products you used on your hair. Products that were, in fact, all natural. At one point I decided to do that as well, but got lost trying to find something I liked and that left my hair feeling like the products I had been using. I did still have a relaxer, however. How confused was I!!??

Once I realized the right word for what I was doing was transitioning I used that to no end. Not just for me but for my sistagirls who claimed to be natural as well! I try and do my part, however I can't run around pouring water on hair and pointing just to prove a point.

My last and final point in regards to this topic is that if this isn't in reference to an LHCFer then they're confused! Just like people who walk around saying they have a perm, haven't we figured out that's not the right word, yet?!!

 

[MsLi@512]

I used to go so hard in the paint for natural hair. now i cant even give a hairy rats ***

 

[My Friend]

I've had a few women tell me they are natural when clearly they're not
I then ask when was the last time they had a relaxer and they say anywhere from 3-6 months ago Outside of hair boards some people think a relaxer wears off

Women say it all the time with acrylic nails Oh, these my nails, I just have a little acrylic on toperplexed This is my hair, I just have a few pieces added for thicknesserplexed These is what I look like naturally, I go to the gym everyday, I only had a little lipoerplexed

We as women love things that enhance our natural beauty.

 

[SmileyNY]

I think this thread is making this "issue" out to be a lot bigger than it actually is. Sure, there are some women who think their hair texture is "natural" when it's not (and some of these women aren't even relaxed )... But who cares? It's THEIR hair. They can describe it however they choose.

...ALSO 99.99999% of women know damn well wether they are natural or not. There's no real reason to lie about it. It's not like only certain people have the ability to be natural. Any damn body can be natural. You don't even have to be alive to grow natural hair I spent 8 years natural & never walked on water or anything. Imagine that. It's just a matter of whether a woman wants to be natural or not. Very simple.

This thread reminds me of an old high school friend who swore up & down that EVERYONE was hating on her, copying her, & wanted to be her I had to finally tell her "Girl, please. Nobody is thinking about you that hard" So... Yea, that friendship ended

Anyway, the point is... It's not that serious

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[Amazhaan]

Hmmm... I don't get it either.

I also don't get it when darkskin chics run around on a message board with an avatar that looks white with blonde hair and is always worried about other chics hair and their hair type... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

OP, clearly you have an issue with someone on this board and since you chose NOT to PM them and make this silly post instead....

youarethenonmuthaflippinfactor.org

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[Poohbear]

Honestly, a heat trained natural is the same as a relaxed/texlaxed/BKT head.

You are altering your curl pattern to make your hair more manageable and to achieve a more desired look.

Lets not compare heat training to coloring hair

Curlybeauty - Heat trained hair is not the same as relaxed/texturized/BKT because it does not involve chemicals.

Ladies who heat train their hair claim they are natural simply because there's no use of chemicals, not necessarily because of their hair texture not being altered when it really is altered by heat instead of chemicals.

And coloring hair can be compared to heat training but not in the same way. Coloring is altering the pigment of hair with chemicals. It still alters the hair, just not the texture.

 

[danniegirl]

To the people sayin "I don't care what other women do with their hair..." Ma'am...WHY ARE YOU HERE?!?! Like, you paid $6.50 for what?! Obviously you care to some extent what other women do with their hair, so stop. STOP, I say!

I paid my 6.50 because i seriously do not care what anyone is doing to their hair.

I was on another natural only hair board and it made me sick the way they went about tearing apart women and their hair practices that just wasn't my cup of tea.

So i paid 6.50 not to care and not to be apart of a group that would judge people based on what they do with their own hair.


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[Sugarhoney]

What about the naturals you only twistout or braidout their hair and claim that it is their "natural" hair texture? What is the difference between a person with 4a/b hair who wears twistouts to have 3c/b-looking hair and never wears their hair "natural" (wash-n-go)? That confuses me. How are you not altering your hair? It my not be chemical, but GOD didn't create your hair like that. If god didn't create it, then it ain't "natural".

 

[CurleeDST]

I do not care what other women do with their hair. If they like it I love it. If I decid I want ideas on options for styling my hair - I come on here to see what the creative ladies have to share.

Am I going to stay on here to debate why a woman chooses to do or call her hair whatever? I do not give 2 figs.

 

[snillohsss]

What about the naturals you only twistout or braidout their hair and claim that it is their "natural" hair texture? What is the difference between a person with 4a/b hair who wears twistouts to have 3c/b-looking hair and never wears their hair "natural" (wash-n-go)? That confuses me. How are you not altering your hair? It my not be chemical, but GOD didn't create your hair like that. If god didn't create it, then it ain't "natural".

Dang-- so 4's can't claim their hair is natural because they choose to wear consistent braid outs? Y'all go hard in here.