"Should You Heat Train?" Video

[whitedaisez]

Let me try to take a stab at this....

Mwedzi is a definite 4b. You are a definite 4b. The argument here is that Chimes is a combo type 4, so assuming for a moment that the latter is true, her hair would look NOTHING like yours or Mwedzi's.

A different take: My 4 year old DD is a 4a. I am a 4b. Just ONE mini-step over (in terms of classification), yet our hair does not look nor behave anything alike.

You can't go around comparing every self-described type 4 to your own strands and forcing them to fit into a box you've created. This hair thing doesn't work like that...hell, LIFE doesn't work like that

Tis all. Ya'll have worn me out tonight- I'm going to bed.

AT the bold, that shouldn't happen. A 4a and 4b shouldn't look or behave ABSOLUTELY different. If not, then they wouldn't be in the same category, don't you think so? For that reason, they need to share certain features. Therefore, it is maybe that your daughter is not a 4a, or you are not a 4b. I have neither created a box, nor forcing anybody in it. I'm merely trying to be logical, 'tis all

 

[ladyviper]

who cares what her hairtype is? This hairtyping thing is starting to get annoying. The bottomline is that her hair is gorgeous and well retained.I bet it has has nothing to with a type but more to do with a great regiment and not being busy with this stupid hairtyping. Let her worry about her hair and you do you!

If u read my first post, I was disputing that she was a 4a/b or type 4, because it was mentioned earlier in the thread that that was what was on her fotki, and others approved. Mwedzi and i with type 4, have hair that is not so extremely different, even though hers is longer. Sera's is different length than mine too, and ours don't behave so much different either. So is Aijo, Loolalooh, Bostonsis, Donna Sylla, Queeny20, Ms. Lala, Clawz G'Law, and other type 4s whose fotkis I stalk. Their hairs are very very long, but behave very similar to mine, yet NOTHING same to Chime's, who is closer in length to all of them.

 

[keenyme]

A 4a is still a type 4. Saying someone is 4a/b can mean that they are mostly 4a with a bit of 4b. Obviously, a 4a/b with mostly 4a hair will look different than a 4 who is mostly 4b. This is why hair typing (again) is subjective and incomprehensive.

^^^ girl, hush. wit yo 3a self.

 

[EllePixie]

^^^ girl, hush. wit yo 3a self.

Chile bye.

For some reason, this thread is making me really thirsty. I just drank half a bottle of water, half a Vitamin Water (with biotin lol), and half a glass of almond milk. Maybe my hair will grow up to look like Chime's now.

*Goes off to find Cherokee breast milk*

 

[nappystorm]

^^Her Fotki makes me want twists. Knowing I hate those things *on my hair*

 

[whitedaisez]

I feel like there is a huge difference between 4a/4b and a definite 4b. 4a/4b could mean she has 50% of both or it could be like 80% 4a and 20% 4b, whereas you look to be 100% 4b. I'm more inclined to think she is mostly 4a with some unseen 4b somewhere that she just happens to claim. I don't think there is a comparison to be had between you two really, especially if your strands are not heavy enough to weigh down your curls.

I absolutely disagree. A 4a/b and a complete 4b are virtually neck in neck. I'm 4b in my larger front and 4a at the very very back. There is no HUGE difference, there shouldn't be, and if there is then there is a discrepancy somewhere. Even an absolute 4b and absolute 4a shouldn't be so extreme either, different but not practically estranged. There is certainly no comparison between the girl and I because it is clear, that our hair don't belong in the same division. She is neither a 4a/b nor type 4. Nitey

 

[EllePixie]

^^Her Fotki makes me want twists. Knowing I hate those things *on my hair*

You and me both. But my hair needs to get longer...right now when my hair is twisted I look like Roger from Sister Sister.

 

[ladyviper]

Elle I love your progress you are doing well. Can't wait to see your 2 year result.

I want to clarify my frustrations a bit. I have been all over the world and I have seen all types of (black) women. With different complexions, different hairtypes. They all have the same struggles. But I have learned that it takes work to grow your hair long and healthy not a certain hairtype. Why can't we women of colour with this beautiful hair compliment eachothers accomplishments and attribute an achievement to the hard work and effort (and money) that went into it, instead of saying: Oh she's black, Oh her hair is long so her hairtype is like -1a , that's the same like: oh you're mixed so your hairjourney must be easy. It's not. And it discard any effort a person has invested in their hair to a minimum. I know alot of women on this site who have grown their hair longer than ever in their lives before... with hard work... tears and sweat. And why is it growing? Because they understand their hair (now) and have a regiment that works for them. And they don't mess with toi many chemicals. Even women who relax are stretching it as long as possible. People minds are changing. Growing hair is about: growth + retaining length...and that goes for any type. That's all there is and we all are fighting for every inch...let's give eachother more credit for our efforts than hairtyping ok? Positive thinking!

Chile bye.

For some reason, this thread is making me really thirsty. I just drank half a bottle of water, half a Vitamin Water (with biotin lol), and half a glass of almond milk. Maybe my hair will grow up to look like Chime's now.

*Goes off to find Cherokee breast milk*

 

[EllePixie]

Thanks ladyviper! And ITA with you. I also don't understand how people say they'd be more impressed if she went from a TWA to the length her hair is now...if she had cut her hair off when she started transitioning, she would have had a TWA. She just didn't cut her hair - she still had to grow a whole new head of hair.

 

[davisbr88]

I absolutely disagree. A 4a/b and a complete 4b are virtually neck in neck. I'm 4b in my larger front and 4a at the very very back. There is no HUGE difference, there shouldn't be, and if there is then there is a discrepancy somewhere. Even an absolute 4b and absolute 4a shouldn't be so extreme either, different but not practically estranged. There is certainly no comparison between the girl and I because it is clear, that our hair don't belong in the same division. She is neither a 4a/b nor type 4. Nitey

Well... considering the fact that I already said she could be like 80% or maybe even 90% 4a and just have like a 4b nape or crown or whatever, then there would be a big difference between her and a 80% or 90% 4b with spots of 4a. 3a and 3c are in the same "division" but there can be a huge difference between those. Just because you're both type 4 doesn't mean you can't be different or that you have to be extremely similar, especially if you're comparing 4a and 4b. The only types that seem to be confused are deciding between 3c and 4a, but hardly any threads in which a 4b asks for her hair type will anyone say pure 4a. Usually people are pretty good about telling the difference between the two because they can look very different, even though they're in the same "division" (ie. until you pointed out the 4a you have, I and others in this thread have labelled you a pure 4b). But as you said, good night. This is a fruitless debate.

 

[keenyme]

I absolutely disagree. A 4a/b and a complete 4b are virtually neck in neck. I'm 4b in my larger front and 4a at the very very back. There is no HUGE difference, there shouldn't be, and if there is then there is a discrepancy somewhere. Even an absolute 4b and absolute 4a shouldn't be so extreme either, different but not practically estranged. There is certainly no comparison between the girl and I because it is clear, that our hair don't belong in the same division. She is neither a 4a/b nor type 4. Nitey

i was under the impression that the difference was that 4a has a defuned curl, and 4b does not. w/o factoring in all the other properties... that seems like a big difference...

i'm trying not to be mean, but i think you should just stop comparing your hair to other type 4 . that's all.

 

[davisbr88]

On an unrelated (or related... at least to the OP) note, someone said she blowdries once a month while someone else says she uses no heat at all. Am I just sleepy, or did anyone else notice that?
And if that's the case that she does blowdry every month, LongHairDontCare does that as well and she is heat-trained, so who is to say that she isn't somewhat heat trained with frequent blow drying?
Her hair is an enigma to me. I watch her videos but I strongly doubt that my hair would ever look anything like hers, even though I have a looser curl pattern than her (according to the 4a/4b she is claiming). My shrinkage is bananas. *shrug*

 

[keenyme]

On an unrelated (or related... at least to the OP) note, someone said she blowdries once a month while someone else says she uses no heat at all. Am I just sleepy, or did anyone else notice that?
And if that's the case that she does blowdry every month, LongHairDontCare does that as well and she is heat-trained, so who is to say that she isn't somewhat heat trained with frequent blow drying?
Her hair is an enigma to me. I watch her videos but I strongly doubt that my hair would ever look anything like hers, even though I have a looser curl pattern than her (according to the 4a/4b she is claiming). My shrinkage is bananas. *shrug*

i think the post youre talking about was referring to lhdc, not chime. i don't think she blow dries.

 

[davisbr88]

i think the post youre talking about was referring to lhdc, not chime. i don't think she blow dries.

Oh okay, because I was getting confused.
With all this type/texture talk thrown in, I lost track of the relevant information.

 

[tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT]

1 Year Nappy Anniversary!! Yay!!!
I can't believe it has been 1 year since I did the Big Chop! This year really did go by quickly!

I measured my hair the other night and it is 161/2 -17 inches long! That's crazy! My ultimate goal is to grow my hair 10 more inches until my hair is 27 inches long (it will be hip length at this point). I know it's a big goal but I'm willing to challenge my hair! lol It is said that the average person grows 6 inches of hair per year (an inch every 2 months) so it will take me 2 years to reach my goal.

The album will show pics immediately following the big chop, at the 6 month point, and comparison pics. I can't wait to see where my hair will be in another year!

At Wet Willies! I had some shrinkage that night. Lovin' the thickness!


This is a pic of me and Alexia during my college's Founder's Week. I looove how thick my hair is here! We were at a party and it was hot so it got bigger and bigger. (That was the 3rd party that night) It kinda looks like something is growing under it lol

i see type 4

 

[tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT]

AS TO THE HEAT question... dunno frequency...but she DOES say in several spots that she has a "blowout" on both fotki and YT video pics

Blow Out,Shaved Head & Pincurls
The past 4 months I've done some different things with my hair. I guess I was getting bored so I did a pincurl set, blew my hair out the next month, and shaved my head a few months after that lol I know..that's alot right. Being natural has allowed me to be more carefree about my hair and open to trying new things...even cutting it lol.



I applied leave-in conditioner and re-twisted my hair a week after the blowout . These were the results. Acting goofy with my sister throwing up the illumaniti sign lol I don't believe in the crap lol

• @mzalaineyous I'm sooo scared to flat iron my hair. I'm terrified of heat damage. I don't have that itch yet but I may do it some time this year.
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Could you do a flat iron tutorial?
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[nappystorm]

^^ Is it me or does she resemble Vanessa A. Williams?

 

[anon123]

I just think it's slam hilarity that every SINGLE DARN TIME someone has long natural hair they get classified as above a 4. Hilarious, or sad. Depends on my mood.

My hair must not be long enough. Cuz ain't nobody ever in their everlovin days said I was not type 4. I can't even get a 4a up in this piece! I'm working on it, though. Just a few more inches and I'll be a type 3!

Eh, that's her opinion, that's fine, not the first time we've heard it. I agree it's damage, technically speaking. But if someone's hair is not breaking off and still looks good, what does it matter? Hair is dead, and it's decoration for you to do what you want to with. Yeah, I know all the political implications and the thoughts associated with longer less kinky hair love, and don't really disagree, just saying about the "damage" part, who cares?

And why do I keep imagining her screen name as "chee-may"? duh, "chime" is a normal word in English. Her hair is gorgeous, in any case.

 

[Myjourney2009]

Chile bye.

For some reason, this thread is making me really thirsty. I just drank half a bottle of water, half a Vitamin Water (with biotin lol), and half a glass of almond milk. Maybe my hair will grow up to look like Chime's now.

*Goes off to find Cherokee breast milk*

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nu uh girl you needs to be drinking that apple cidar vinegar to get that better good hurr.

 

[Your Cheeziness]

You and me both. But my hair needs to get longer...right now when my hair is twisted I look like Roger from Sister Sister.

 

[bride91501]

And why do I keep imagining her screen name as "chee-may"? duh, "chime" is a normal word in English. Her hair is gorgeous, in any case.

The answer, my dear mwedzi, is that you CLEARLY have been hanging around too many Nigerians, probably of the Igbo variety

For all those unfamiliar.....Chi = God (in Igbo).... I do the same thing whenever I see an unfamiliar English word or name beginning with "Chi"

 

[EllePixie]

Ummm does he have a perm there? What is that on his head?

 

[EllePixie]

My hair must not be long enough. Cuz ain't nobody ever in their everlovin days said I was not type 4. I can't even get a 4a up in this piece! I'm working on it, though. Just a few more inches and I'll be a type 3!

Eh, that's her opinion, that's fine, not the first time we've heard it. I agree it's damage, technically speaking. But if someone's hair is not breaking off and still looks good, what does it matter? Hair is dead, and it's decoration for you to do what you want to with. Yeah, I know all the political implications and the thoughts associated with longer less kinky hair love, and don't really disagree, just saying about the "damage" part, who cares?

And why do I keep imagining her screen name as "chee-may"? duh, "chime" is a normal word in English. Her hair is gorgeous, in any case.

LOL, my bad mwedzi - to clarify, I was referring more to women who fall under either 4a or 4a with dashes of 4b, a la the KT fiasco and now Chime. Both these ladies refer to themselves as type 4s, can't we just leave it at that, and that they have nice hair?

 

[Your Cheeziness]

Ummm does he have a perm there? What is that on his head?

Naw, girl. That's that heat-trained 3B that Chime obviously has.



I couldn't help it.

 

[localhost]

Smh @ this thread. I wish I could have a wash and go like hers but i shouldn't even try because she has some special type of 4 hair that only she has. Okkk

I can't aspire to achieve what she has, I should only work with what I've got, yet our hair is in the same category? This makes absolutely no sense. Logic flawed.

My opinion - I believe theres something else to this girls story, point blank, period. I refuse to believe that even a pure 4a...ah, nevermind.

Back to real life I go.

 

[Your Cheeziness]

Smh @ this thread. I wish I could have a wash and go like hers but i shouldn't even try because she has some special type of 4 hair that only she has. Okkk

I can't aspire to achieve what she has, I should only work with what I've got, yet our hair is in the same category? This makes absolutely no sense. Logic flawed.

My opinion - I believe theres something else to this girls story, point blank, period. I refuse to believe that even a pure 4a...ah, nevermind.

Back to real life I go.

That's just the thing. Your hair is yours, her hair is hers. Your hair will never look like hers. Even if there were no hair typing system, your hair will still look like your hair. @EllePixie said it best..."inspiration, not imitation". You're setting yourself up for failure if you will only accept what someone else has on their head. It won't happen.

 

[EllePixie]

Also, I'm confused as to why it's like she has mutant hair? Earlier in the thread I was told that I seem to have tight curls, ie in the 4 category no? I don't think (correct me if I am wrong b/c I rarely compare my hair to others) my wng doesn't look much different than Chime's except hers is MUCH longer than mine (one day!!!) -

I'm so confused at the disconnect?

 

[natura87]

I created a monster!!

 

[Your Cheeziness]

I created a monster!!

Yep! Chime-gate 2011

 

[likewtr4chklit]

I wonder what would happen if someone were to tex-lax then get on youtube and swear they are 100% chemical free type 4bcz.... *ponders*

I would do it just to see the uproar...I would be famous!!!