"Should You Heat Train?" Video

[Nayna]

i do pretty much think she's slightly heat trained...not quite as much but like that of lhdc2011 (have very similar textures wet & dry.... very similar methods of maintenance)
they both KEEP the hair stretched, wash close to about once a month (right?) and BOTH straighten no more than once per month (sometimes every 2-3 months now for lcdc2011... but early on flat ironed about once per month---dunno, maybe the earlier frequency was the training process)... but maintain consistent straightened/stretched style in between each wash eh?

I don't think she uses heat at all if I remember correctly. And I don't remember seeing her hair straight since she's been natural.

 

[Iluvsmuhgrass]

Either way her hair is gorgeous! GAWWWWWWWWWWW JUS!!!!

 

[Chrissmiss]

I don't agree with her. If your hair is retaining length, maintaining thickness, is not breaking, and does not have excessive splits why the need to be so political about it? Yes it is damage... but no one's hair is 100% healthy. It's all about getting the look you want and being happy with your hair however you decided to style it.

 

[whitedaisez]

her hair doesnt curl up like you would normally see...her ends dont even spiral up.



its not a hard strech to see that it doesnt look like your average 4a curl pattern which looks like this

Agree with ^^

I consider myself a type 4a/b:

(much tinnier curls compared to Chime's hair)^^

Stretched:

Shrinkage:

When my hair is heat damaged or heat trained, whatever, it looks like this...

(No curls visible)^^

Absolutely no curls after heat damage/training:

Chime's hair texture looks NOTHING close to mine either ways. So someone plz explain to me how she is remotely a type 4... erplexed

 

[Wildchild453]

^^ Probably bc curl size isn't the only thing that determines how hair looks and performs. There is also density, porosity and texture.

 

[whitedaisez]

^^ Probably bc curl size isn't the only thing that determines how hair looks and performs. There is also density, porosity and texture.

am not disputing whether curl size is the only thing that matters in a person's overall hair structure and performance. am not looking to know how her hair performs. am talking about how am confused at how she is a 4a/b, heat trained or not.

 

[Wildchild453]

Well, that picture of her dry fro in this same thread shows me that she's a 4a but what do I know. :Kanyeshrug:

 

[hairsothick]

Her hair doesn't look like mine either, but that doesn't mean she's not a type 4.

 

[brittanynic16]

am not disputing whether curl size is the only thing that matters in a person's overall hair structure and performance. am not looking to know how her hair performs. am talking about how am confused at how she is a 4a/b, heat trained or not.

They want to believe. There is no use...

I am glad this didn't turn into a HT bashing thread. Mission accomplished

 

[knt1229]

This thread is all kind's of crazy. What does it matter what her hair type is? To me, it looks to be type 4. But her hair is thick and big. Not everyone will have that much hair on their head no matter what hair type and curl pattern you have. I think that is what is throwing people, the amount of hair she has. All people with the same hair type won't all have hair that looks the same because of porosity, density, and whether your hair is cottony, silky, thready, etc. or fine vs thick strands, and how you take care of it. All of those things play apart in how hair looks.

 

[EllePixie]

^^ Probably bc curl size isn't the only thing that determines how hair looks and performs. There is also density, porosity and texture.

Because thanks is not enough...people need to realize that texture (cottony, spongy, thready, wiry, silky), strand size (fine, medium, coarse) and density (thin, normal, thick) will ALL change how your hair LOOKS in addition to how it performs. One type four is not the same as another, same thing as all of the other hair types. If people would stop trying to place people's hair into boxes, this would make more sense.

 

[whitedaisez]

Well, that picture of her dry fro in this same thread shows me that she's a 4a but what do I know. :Kanyeshrug:

But a close up of her dry hair shows her curl pattern, which you know, is not a 4a curl pattern as u have seen
An afro is not really a good evidence of someone's hair type. Its usually been manipulated somehow. Just saying.

 

[EllePixie]

But a close up of her dry hair shows her curl pattern, which you know, is not a 4a curl pattern as u have seen
An afro is not really a good evidence of someone's hair type. Its usually been manipulated somehow. Just saying.

Actually the picture I posted from her Fotki said that was her hair air dried with no product, so no, it was not manipulated. That is why I selected that photo, because it seemed to be the one that most accurately reflected this boards thoughts on how to determine curl pattern. And it wasn't wet like the other photo posted...because how many times have people gotten the side eye on here for saying their hair is 3c when its clearly soaking wet? Okay, that's what I thought....

 

[keenyme]

ppl need to learn the difference between curl pattern abd texture before trying to type other ppl's hair...

 

[whitedaisez]

Actually the picture I posted from her Fotki said that was her hair air dried with no product, so no, it was not manipulated. That is why I selected that photo, because it seemed to be the one that most accurately reflected this boards thoughts on how to determine curl pattern.

With no product doesnt really mean not manipulated either. Unless am blind, it looks fluffed out to me. Pardon me, am not trying to put myself out there as some kind of an expert but, I dont see how a fluffed afro is a reliable way of determining hair type

 

[CrueltyFree]

Agree with ^^

I consider myself a type 4a/b:

(much tinnier curls compared to Chime's hair)^^

Stretched:

Shrinkage:

When my hair is heat damaged or heat trained, whatever, it looks like this...

(No curls visible)^^

Absolutely no curls:

Chime's hair texture looks NOTHING close to mine either ways. So someone plz explain to me how she is remotely a type 4... erplexed

Hair typing is subjective. You can classify her hair's curl pattern any which way you perceive, but it doesn't matter. And just because you see her hair stretched out (VIA TWIST/BRAID outs) majority of the time, doesn't mean you will have an accurate assessment nono of what her hair type is anyway.

I don't follow her but I didn't think she uses heat regularly if at all. If she did use heat though, why would she make a video such as this one? Makes no type of sense to me.

Personally, I wear twists the majority of the time and my hair doesn't take long to revert from wearing twists into a shrunken mass. But that's my hair, which happens to be considerably shorter and probably much more coarse than hers. Don't judge a book by it's cover. Not all hair types that are similar behave the same or look the same. Not all textures behave the same. I can label my curl pattern whatever I choose to be appropriate but someone else may think it's something different. You can have coarse hair that hangs more than my coarse hair that stands up and out.

And no one is saying "heat training", aka heat damage, is wrong. Well, at least I'm not so I'll speak for myself.

 

[tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT]

hell i'm even confused as to why my own ends are straight

and i've never ever used a blow dryer or flat iron etc. ***shrugs**

i'm black and I'm proud!!!

 

[keenyme]

this is funny, b/c if someone made a vid right now saying that type 4 hair "can't grow", or is "hard to grow" they'd get all types of side eyes. yet, when a wl type 4 pops up, they're suddenly a 3...

and i'm REALLY side eying the folks talking about her "giving ppl false hopes". WHAT THE ****?! really?!

 

[CrueltyFree]

With no product doesnt really mean not manipulated either. Unless am blind, it looks fluffed out to me. Pardon me, am not trying to put myself out there as some kind of an expert but, I dont see how a fluffed afro is a reliable way of determining hair type

It could look fluffed out because it is not manipulated

 

[CrueltyFree]

this is funny, b/c if someone made a vid right now saying that type 4 hair "can't grow", or is "hard to grow" they'd get all types of side eyes. yet, when a wl type 4 pops up, they're suddenly a 3...

and i'm REALLY side eying the folks talking about her "giving ppl false hopes". WHAT THE ****?! really?!

Keeny, don't even go there. They ain't ready

 

[EllePixie]

With no product doesnt really mean not manipulated either. Unless am blind, it looks fluffed out to me. Pardon me, am not trying to put myself out there as some kind of an expert but, I dont see how a fluffed afro is a reliable way of determining hair type

Did you even go browse her fotki? She said it was air dried - not fluffed out, not picked out, not blown out. When someone says their hair is air dried that implies that after they got out of the shower they did not touch their hair.

 

[tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT]

this is funny, b/c if someone made a vid right now saying that type 4 hair "can't grow", or is "hard to grow" they'd get all types of side eyes. yet, when a wl type 4 pops up, they're suddenly a 3...

and i'm REALLY side eying the folks talking about her "giving ppl false hopes". WHAT THE ****?! really?!

it's a theme... remember, the KT shower smizing threads
too long jack..... push them numbers back

gotta be a 3 fo' hair to touch yo knee

 

[hairsothick]

this is funny, b/c if someone made a vid right now saying that type 4 hair "can't grow", or is "hard to grow" they'd get all types of side eyes. yet, when a wl type 4 pops up, they're suddenly a 3...

and i'm REALLY side eying the folks talking about her "giving ppl false hopes". WHAT THE ****?! really?!

Threads like this are always so revealing.

 

[EllePixie]

this is funny, b/c if someone made a vid right now saying that type 4 hair "can't grow", or is "hard to grow" they'd get all types of side eyes. yet, when a wl type 4 pops up, they're suddenly a 3...

and i'm REALLY side eying the folks talking about her "giving ppl false hopes". WHAT THE ****?! really?!

Girl don't even. People love to sit there and act like "black" hair is a dang struggle and anything that negates that CLEARLY gets placed into the good hair category. If people believed "black" hair was manageable, people wouldn't heat fry in the first place.

 

[brittanynic16]

I hate to do it but...here is a picture of another washing and go taken around the same time as the first. The caption is below.

I actually did a wash and go! I never thought I would, but this particular day I had no leave-in conditioner to detangle my hair with. I never detangle without tons of conditioner. To my surprise, it wasn't hard to detangle a couple of days after that.

 

[whitedaisez]

Hair typing is subjective. You can classify her hair's curl pattern any which way you perceive, but it doesn't matter. And just because you see her hair stretched out (VIA TWIST/BRAID outs) majority of the time, doesn't mean you will have an accurate assessment nono of what her hair type is anyway.

I don't follow her but I didn't think she uses heat regularly if at all. If she did use heat though, why would she make a video such as this one? Makes no type of sense to me.

Personally, I wear twists the majority of the time and my hair doesn't take long to revert from wearing twists into a shrunken mass. But that's my hair, which happens to be considerably shorter and probably much more coarse than hers. Don't judge a book by it's cover. Not all hair types that are similar behave the same or look the same. Not all textures behave the same. I can label my curl pattern whatever I choose to be appropriate but someone else may think it's something different. You can have coarse hair that hangs more than my coarse hair that stands up and out.

And no one is saying "heat training", aka heat damage, is wrong. Well, at least I'm not so I'll speak for myself.

The picture of her hair that was shown above was not stretched out so I don't understand the first bolded part of your argument and what it has to do with my argument.

I clearly did not judge her by the cover because again, i showed pics to explain my point. So once again, I don't understand what that second part of your argument has to do with my argument.

As for, "Not all hair types that are similar behave the same or look the same. Not all textures behave the same," the evidence that I presented shows that her hair behaves extremely different from mine to be remotely similar to mine.

 

[AHeadOfCoils]

I think she's an elongated 3c/4a with probably some 4b in there(I can't see all that though ). With length, comes elongation of curls. That along with her consistently doing twist outs, makes it easily for me to understand why her hair looks like that when wet. According to LHCF, dry hair w/o product shows one's "true" hair type so what's so different about hers.... ? & for the ........ nevermind. I'm just annoyed by this whole thread.

 

[MissJ]

I believe her hair is type 4 but just stretched. It seems she never allows her hair to shrink. My hair is type 4, and the front hangs exactly like hers. When I discovered this part of my hair wouldn't revert to curly, I tried to figure out what had happened. I barely ever use heat, but I wear head bands ever day. That was the key. The front of my hair is always stretched, therefore it hangs and has very little curl to it. It's actually wavy.

 

[CrueltyFree]

From the legendary Maya Angelou:

The first time someone shows you who they are, believe them.

Yea, this is a little out of context (and perhaps a bit extra, but warranted extra-ness) but I think the underlying message applies. And with that, I'm done.

 

[Wildchild453]

I'm throwing in the towel. I can't argue over someone else's hair even though I know and everybody else knows there is an underlying issue that's being addressed.