LYING about your hair texture ???

[glamazon386]

Umm who is she? And why does she care? If this really is about KimmayTube why is everybody on her wheels in the first place?

 

[glamazon386]

Oh I have a fun hairtyping story!

So I have a male coworker that normally keeps his hair braided but since we work saturdays and it was pretty empty in the office, he had his hair in a not so combed out fro (he's a 4c). So after we teased him a bit about him not combing it out, everyone in the office (about four of us) move on to the next subject of conversation and start working and all of that. So this one gal who works upstairs came to our office claims she has "mixed girl hair" though she's always wearing wigs and weaves and I've seen her edges previously so I took everything she says about her hair with a grain of salt.

Well she comes in with a hairbag on (not allowed by the by) and starts going on and on about my co-worker's hair and how it's nappy this and nappy that and generally causing a scene. She THEN goes on to say how her hair was so soft and curly and how she has 'mixed girl hair'. So my male coworker says "Ok, prove it, take off your cap! Show us that mixed girl hair!" So he reaches out and acts as though he's gonna take off her cap and she flips and start going on about how she doesn't have to prove anything to anyone and she knows how her hair is and she doesn't have to show us anything. There was a lot of finger waggin' and neck rollin' to be had. She's going on just as loud and just as ghetto as she wants to be and I'm in the corner crackin up because she's been called on her bluff and pissed off because of it. I've -seen- her real hair when she had some unfortunate not so well done crochet in her hair and it's 4a if that. Needless to say, she doesn't talk about her hair texture anymore.

Sounds like the girl at my job who told me she has good white people hair after inspecting my fro one day. She said she only relaxes once a year but I rarely ever see any new growth on her head. Yeah girl that stiff broken off neck length relaxed hair is good white people hair. Sure it is. And it's NEVER done. Always in a damn snatch back or just down but sticking out. No curls, no body, no nothing. I just wanna offer her a wash, dc and rollerset. I couldn't believe she actually told me that. And I'm not sure why. Maybe she was trying to insinuate that her hair is better than my fro? Nah never that.

 

[Lady_q_tee]

people often say they are a 4a when they are 3b for example, not due to the fear if being dismissed but because they simply are novices when it comes to hair typing and they are guessing, I really doubt there is any major conspiracy going on as she is suggesting...

Also why do people think 4a/b is more difficult to take care of? Ive seen some people with hair type 3 and when combed out they have a beautiful thick bush ... And I think that must take as ages to tame and detangle. Im 4a and my hair isnt really majorily thick at all.

People need to realise natural is natural REGARDLESS of hair type, were divided by society at time for being black ... we need to stick together not divide ourselves futher by hair texture ... This is ridiculous

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[glamazon386]

people often say they are a 4a when they are 3b for example, not due to the fear if being dismissed but because they simply are novices when it comes to hair typing and they are guessing, I really doubt there is any major conspiracy going on as she is suggesting...

Also why do people think 4a/b is more difficult to take care of? Ive seen some people with hair type 3 and when combed out they have a beautiful thick bush ... And I think that must take as ages to tame and detangle. Im 4a and my hair isnt really majorily thick at all.

People need to realise natural is natural REGARDLESS of hair type, were divided by society at time for being black ... we need to stick together not divide ourselves futher by hair texture ... This is ridiculous

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Because in many instances it is. 4A/B hair has a tighter coil which makes it harder for sebum to distribute itself down the hair shaft. This can make the hair more prone to dryness and breakage when compared to a looser hair type. Type 4 hair also has one less cuticle layer which makes it more fragile than other hair types. Type 4 hair is packed tighter and is more dense which can make it harder to detangle and comb through. Type 4 hair typically has massive shrinkage which can lead to tangling and knots. Trying to remove those tangles and knots can lead to breakage. All of these things combined makes Type 4 hair harder to care for when compared to Types 1-3.

 

[Lady_q_tee]

Tell me about it!my hair is the land of knots but, yes it harder for sebum to travel further down the hair shaft and distribute itself evenly but you can counteract this by moisturising and deep conditioning more. Before I started taking care of my hair it was ridiculously hard to manage, after not so. I keep it mouisturised and conditioned now I really cant complain. Im just tired of hearing about 4a/b hair beeing the hardest hair texture to deal with ... At the end of the day its hair, deal with it ...

Because in many instances it is. 4A/B hair has a tighter coil which makes it harder for sebum to distribute itself down the hair shaft. This can make the hair more prone to dryness and breakage when compared to a looser hair type. Type 4 hair also has one less cuticle layer which makes it more fragile than other hair types. Type 4 hair is packed tighter and is more dense which can make it harder to detangle and comb through. Type 4 hair typically has massive shrinkage which can lead to tangling and knots. Trying to remove those tangles and knots can lead to breakage. All of these things combined makes Type 4 hair harder to care for when compared to Types 1-3.

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[Irresistible]

people often say they are a 4a when they are 3b for example, not due to the fear if being dismissed but because they simply are novices when it comes to hair typing and they are guessing, I really doubt there is any major conspiracygoing on as she is suggesting...

Also why do people think 4a/b is more difficult to take care of? Ive seen some people with hair type 3 and when combed out they have a beautiful thick bush ... And I think that must take as ages to tame and detangle. Im 4a and my hair isnt really majorily thick at all.

People need to realise natural is natural REGARDLESS of hair type, were divided by society at time for being black ... we need to stick together not divide ourselves futher by hair texture ... This is ridiculous

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Re First bolded part-There is tho-in the slow and slight movement to make type 4 hair more accepted and 'adored' came the slow rejection and dismissal of type 3 hair as being credited as a 'true' (or the 'down' hair type) natural hair type or some ish like that

it's like turning the N word to positive, because 4 type hair was supposedly a less accepted natural texture, its been slowly turned into the 'only coveted and adored hair type' by all kind of jedi mind tricks (both slight/subtle and overt) of other naturals against other naturals-at least on the hair boards-this does not go on IRL commonly that I see

Re The second bolded part- It tangles and retangles again, and clumps together again, Its hell on neck back, shoulders arms hands and joints. they are trippin! and took forever to grow to this length with set backs-but it don't count cause it's a 3 and easy to grow.....its hogwash bullcrap!

 

[Ms Lala]

people often say they are a 4a when they are 3b for example, not due to the fear if being dismissed but because they simply are novices when it comes to hair typing and they are guessing, I really doubt there is any major conspiracy going on as she is suggesting...

Also why do people think 4a/b is more difficult to take care of? Ive seen some people with hair type 3 and when combed out they have a beautiful thick bush ... And I think that must take as ages to tame and detangle. Im 4a and my hair isnt really majorily thick at all.

People need to realise natural is natural REGARDLESS of hair type, were divided by society at time for being black ... we need to stick together not divide ourselves futher by hair texture ... This is ridiculous

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ITA. It is discrediting to ladies of other hair types to act like it doesn't take work for them to grow their hair and keep it healthy as well. I remember my white roommate in college would wash and blow dry her hair like every other day. I would HATE to have to do that. That doesn't seem easy to me. I have a friend w/type 3 hair and she complains about how she has to wet it every day to wear it curly and it doesn't hold a press as well as mine does. She is always complaining about her hair. My relative has type 3b/c hair and it is very fragile and breaks easily. She has a hard time growing it past SL and asks me for advice.

I can put my hair in twists and leave them in for 4 weeks, I love being able to do that. And what style is easier than fro, most ladies may not want to wear it but no rollers gel or anything other than a good moisturizer are required for a fro. I think we make our hair harder than it needs to be sometimes. In terms of time required for care I think hair density and length often play a major role even over hair type. A type 4 with a TWA is going to spend less time on their hair than a type 1 with classic length very dense hair.

 

[nappystorm]

^^^Agreed. I had a white roomie and she worked alot harder than I did. I didn't envy her at all I wanted to run over and give a sympathy hug when she tried to wrap her hair one night

 

[EssenceOfBeauty]

yes ma'am... I see 1a/1b gorgeous by the way!!

let us know when you do an FLAT IRON vid!

Thank you. I grew it all by myself. My mother is Tumbuka and my father is Ngoni so we have good hair in our blood (We interacted alot with the British colonists back in the day).

Girl, I did a flat iron video except my results weren't what I expected. After posting a video on my blow out, the ends looked kinda...you know. So I am a bit skeptical on posting the flat iron video because you LHCFers go hard.

 

[Cheleigh]

^^^ I think you're right--4a has sort of become the "holy grail" of natural hair. You can say it's authentically kinky/nappy/coily black hair, but still slap some curl activator/gel on it and get some waves and curls on the snatch back. 3cs think they're mixed, 3bs are mixed, and 4bs are too nappy and all they can do is a twist or a fro.

I say it's sad to go on and on about it, and it's why I don't talk much about hair anymore--it just gets to political and people put the two on the ten. Every hair type has it unique benefits and unique challenges. I have learned tips from 2bs-4"c"s over the years, no head is exactly the same curl pattern, density, or length as anyone elses. That's the beauty of it--but everyone wants to belong to something, so they have to invalidate another person's experiences in order to do it.

 

[tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT]

Thank you. I grew it all by myself. My mother is Tumbuka and my father is Ngoni so we have good hair in our blood (We interacted alot with the British colonists back in the day).

Girl, I did a flat iron video except my results weren't what I expected. After posting a video on my blow out, the ends looked kinda...you know. So I am a bit skeptical on posting the flat iron video because you LHCFers go hard.

not me... i just glide along with my silly.. possibly not so funny humor

i have fun w/ 2 or 3 people on here and keep it moving (i'm only passionate when it comes to life and those i love).... never in cyber space

i really would like to know what can solve those knotty ends on a blow out

i saw that on KT video and i immediately started trying to figure out what I could add to my ends to avoid that

i'm a long ways off of using heat tho'

 

[lwilliams1922]

it's funny because I see a lot of 4's and think "you seem like a 3 to me". Then I see women that swear they are 3a-3bs and think "how so"?......
Personally, I can't type my hair because I have mixed textures. Once it is close to 100% healthy I may know, but that could be never............

I haven't seen the video as i'm on my phone right now.

I know typing is questionable for ME. I THINK I'm 4a but not sure if there is some 3 in places. Perhaps with many people they just don't know for sure.

 

[Irresistible]

she did say in that vid that twists /or twist outs look better on type 4 hair-see the jedi mind tricks going on

That can't be across the board and can only be subjective and personal opinion, not fact

 

[EssenceOfBeauty]

not me... i just glide along with my silly.. possibly not so funny humor

i have fun w/ 2 or 3 people on here and keep it moving (i'm only passionate when it comes to life and those i love).... never in cyber space

i really would like to know what can solve those knotty ends on a blow out

i saw that on KT video and i immediately started trying to figure out what I could add to my ends to avoid that

i'm a long ways off of using heat tho'

The knotty ends (SSK's) are the story of my life. *sighs* I'm not gonna bother with heat for at least another year.

 

[song_of_serenity]

I honestly think it's pretty clear who she's "hinting" at...

 

[Irresistible]

Because in many instances it is. 4A/B hair has a tighter coil which makes it harder for sebum to distribute itself down the hair shaft. This can make the hair more prone to dryness and breakage when compared to a looser hair type. Type 4 hair also has one less cuticle layer which makes it more fragile than other hair types. Type 4 hair is packed tighter and is more dense which can make it harder to detangle and comb through. Type 4 hair typically has massive shrinkage which can lead to tangling and knots. Trying to remove those tangles and knots can lead to breakage. All of these things combined makes Type 4 hair harder to care for when compared to Types 1-3.

This is not so.....
Type 3c can also have all the same characteristics and challenges. my hair is dry -I drown it in oil and moisurizers, it packs together, clumps, and the hairs can/will marry each other, they knot up, its dense and massive , and detangling my hair can lead to breakage too and my hair shrinks from tailbone/hip , to my shoulder ain't that massive?

 

[EssenceOfBeauty]

I honestly think it's pretty clear who she's "hinting" at...

Song of Serenity, do you mind sharing? I am totally clueless.

 

[Irresistible]

^^^ I think you're right--4a has sort of become the "holy grail" of natural hair. You can say it's authentically kinky/nappy/coily black hair, but still slap some curl activator/gel on it and get some waves and curls on the snatch back. 3cs think they're mixed, 3bs are mixed, and 4bs are too nappy and all they can do is a twist or a fro.

I say it's sad to go on and on about it, and it's why I don't talk much about hair anymore--it just gets to political and people put the two on the ten. Every hair type has it unique benefits and unique challenges. I have learned tips from 2bs-4"c"s over the years, no head is exactly the same curl pattern, density, or length as anyone elses. That's the beauty of it--but everyone wants to belong to something, so they have to invalidate another person's experiences in order to do it.

 

[song_of_serenity]

Song of Serenity, do you mind sharing? I am totally clueless.

A few days ago, there was a big "debate" of sorts about if kimmaytube was really a 4a/b as she claims or just a 3c because of how her hair behaved since growing longer. I suspect with certain things the video maker is saying, she's hinting at it being about kimmay and perhaps has seen our discussion as well.

 

[EssenceOfBeauty]

A few days ago, there was a big "debate" of sorts about if kimmaytube was really a 4a/b as she claims or just a 3c because of how her hair behaved since growing longer. I suspect with certain things the video maker is saying, she's hinting at it being about kimmay and perhaps has seen our discussion as well.

Ah...thank you. I do remember seeing that. Someone actually ended up posting old pictures of KT to prove she was a type 4.

Back to the topic though. I honestly feel the whole hair typing thing is too limiting. There are so many heads of hair that fall in between or are a combination of the Andre hair typing system. Natural hair is too diverse to package into four categories and nine or so sub categories IMO.

 

[song_of_serenity]

Ah...thank you. I do remember seeing that. Someone actually ended up posting old pictures of KT to prove she was a type 4.

Back to the topic though. I honestly feel the whole hair typing thing is too limiting. There are so many heads of hair that fall in between or are a combination of the Andre hair typing system. Natural hair is too diverse to package into four categories and nine or so sub categories IMO.

That someone was me. Lol. I printscreened them from her videos. She definitely IS indeed a type 4. People sometimes forget hair, depending on density, etc can fall as it grows...not every type 4's hair grows OUT.

As for this lady...well...hm. :/

 

[Irresistible]

ppl are acting all brand new now adays like we all chose and hand picked out our hair type(s) for ourselves

 

[KurlyNinja]

Ah...thank you. I do remember seeing that. Someone actually ended up posting old pictures of KT to prove she was a type 4.

Back to the topic though. I honestly feel the whole hair typing thing is too limiting. There are so many heads of hair that fall in between or are a combination of the Andre hair typing system. Natural hair is too diverse to package into four categories and nine or so sub categories IMO.

I'm pretty sure Andre doesn't even care about this is much as we do. He's probably sitting back somewhere reading this laughing at us and counting his money.

 

[DDTexlaxed]

I really have no idea about my texture. I just don't know. It seems 3c is more curlier than 4a. I think it's nuts to make a video to "shame" someone, though. I think it's more important to focus on healthy hair and not just the hair texture.

 

[tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT]

ppl are acting all brand new now adays like we all chose and hand picked out our hair type(s) for ourselves

girl you know i did... i change it up frequently
niiigh i say......who gone check me boo

 

[Irresistible]

girl you know i did... i change it up frequently
niiigh i say......who gone check me boo

 

[tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT]

The knotty ends (SSK's) are the story of my life. *sighs* I'm not gonna bother with heat for at least another year.

do you ever dip them in hot coconut oil? (or are they ...like mine... not long enough w/out dipping your dayuuum ear in as well)??

 

[OsnapCnapp!]

From what I understand from a few of the comments, since I have 4b hair I am going to Hades.

But while Im there I will enjoy my thick, puffy cloud of napps.

 

[knt1229]

I honestly think it's pretty clear who she's "hinting" at...

Are you talking about that vid that Taren made about people not accepting her in the natural hair community because she has type 3 hair?

I was wondering if anyone here would post it so the board can discuss it.

ETA: didn't see your response before I posted to you. I assumed she was referring to Taren's vid not Kimmay's.

 

[EssenceOfBeauty]

do you ever dip them in hot coconut oil? (or are they ...like mine... not long enough w/out dipping your dayuuum ear in as well)??

Girl yessssssssss. You know my ear is being dipped too so I don't even bother. I am at the awkward length that is too short for anything, buns, fairly chunky twists, even four Celie braids *sighs*. I will wait for some length before performing any dipping tasks in the sink.