Hmm, I’ll look into that when I finish my jar of custard. I like one and done products. Unlike most people, I don’t mind redoing my hair often since it’s short right now. I’m trying to build muscle memory with styling. When I get some length I’ll probably change my mind about the frequency.
Wash And Go, To Grow And To Dazzle 2020 Challenge
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Bette Davis Eyes
The "OG" Product Junkie
I was talking all that smack. I went home and laid on the couch all day. Then braided my hair up before bed.
This spring forward kicking my tail.
This spring forward kicking my tail.
faithVA
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Yeah, I am enjoying the FB BGC Digital Salon Alum. Since I don't know the ladies and didn't spend that much time in the salon I haven't seen all of this hair before. I am enjoying seeing the different types of curls and styles. 
I think I even found a shape I may want for next time.
I even found an old LHCFer who also goes to the same stylist that I do. Imagine that.
I think I even found a shape I may want for next time.I even found an old LHCFer who also goes to the same stylist that I do. Imagine that.
toaster
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Jealous! I don’t have a FB but I love looking at natural hair.Yeah, I am enjoying the FB BGC Digital Salon Alum. Since I don't know the ladies and didn't spend that much time in the salon I haven't seen all of this hair before. I am enjoying seeing the different types of curls and styles.
I even found an old LHCFer who also goes to the same stylist that I do. Imagine that.
sunshinebeautiful
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Yeah, I am enjoying the FB BGC Digital Salon Alum. Since I don't know the ladies and didn't spend that much time in the salon I haven't seen all of this hair before. I am enjoying seeing the different types of curls and styles.
I even found an old LHCFer who also goes to the same stylist that I do. Imagine that.
I'm about to go find this group. I love looking at hair lol. Can anyone join?
faithVA
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They are going to ask you questions in the beginning. They will ask you if you were ever a member of the digital salon.
toaster
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It’s a very weird consistency. Very chunky almost. Like you pick it up in chunks. Doesn’t emulsify in your hands.
In my experience it applies well over other leave ins and butters as well as other gels.
If I was using it for twists, I’d probably apply the butter on a section of my hair, split that section and grab the hair I wanted to twist, grab a chunk of gel and apply it from root to tip, smooth it in, and then twist.
Let me know how it works for you!
Mapleoats
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Thanks!! Will be using it tonight so I’ll let you know how it goes!
GettingKinky
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I like the result of the spring forward, but I hate the week right after.
GettingKinky
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Such a small world.Yeah, I am enjoying the FB BGC Digital Salon Alum. Since I don't know the ladies and didn't spend that much time in the salon I haven't seen all of this hair before. I am enjoying seeing the different types of curls and styles.
I even found an old LHCFer who also goes to the same stylist that I do. Imagine that.
beebee83
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Have you checked out Aeleise’s tutorials from 2015 & 2016? The first video is 8 minutes long, and features her WnG in its entirety. The other video is even shorter, and it details how she styles her hair with UFD in the shower. These videos predate 30DayHairDetox & BCM, but the WnG steps are comparable to what she's still doing.
FYI - Aeleise cut my hair in 2015. Back then, all of her new clients had to watch/replicate her WnG video before our appointments. I'm so glad she required us to do this...especially since I was a "newbie natural" at that time.
Lastly, I'm a long-time lurker, but a new poster on LHCF. I haven't read through all of this thread, so I'm not sure if Aeleise's older videos have been posted already. If this post is duplicative, please accept my apologies. If not, I hope this helps.
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toaster
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Hi @beebee83 and welcome!!
Many of us joined the digital salon run by “the A’s” (Aeleise and Aishia) of any of their newer ventures, but we always love more videos and discussions and conversations, so no need to apologize!
How are you wearing your hair now? Have you had many cuts since 2015?
Many of us joined the digital salon run by “the A’s” (Aeleise and Aishia) of any of their newer ventures, but we always love more videos and discussions and conversations, so no need to apologize!
How are you wearing your hair now? Have you had many cuts since 2015?
GettingKinky
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Thanks @beebee83 I love short videos from the As.
ETA- I just watched the video, the basics of her current technique are there, but she has definitely evolved and changed her process quite a bit in the last 6 years. I’m in shock that she air dried her hair. And used a paper towel to scrunch out some of the water. :-O
ETA- I just watched the video, the basics of her current technique are there, but she has definitely evolved and changed her process quite a bit in the last 6 years. I’m in shock that she air dried her hair. And used a paper towel to scrunch out some of the water. :-O
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beebee83
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Thanks for the warm welcome!
Since 2015, my natural hair journey has been quite circuitous. I’ve worn my fair share of protective styles (e.g., weaves, wigs, crochets) and I’ve dabbled in a few short-lived fads (such as the Max Hydration Method).
In the last few weeks, I decided to wear my hair “out” again. I’m currently wearing twist-outs using the A’s product recommendations. I hope to add WnGs back to my repertoire soon, and have scheduled a cut with a CIK stylist in May.
faithVA
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Thanks for sharing these. I may have seen them but it has been a year. I will check them out again. You never know what I might pick up my 2nd time through. Welcome to the thread. Be careful of the ladies in here though, they are product junkies. They will deny it though
No amount of extra sun in the evening can take away how crappy I feel as an hour of my precious morning has been taken away.
I’m not in denial.Thanks for sharing these. I may have seen them but it has been a year. I will check them out again. You never know what I might pick up my 2nd time through. Welcome to the thread. Be careful of the ladies in here though, they are product junkies. They will deny it though
Our product junkie selections are conducive to the wash and go process. These aren’t just random products. I would still imagine every item has a purpose and can be used up.Thanks for the videos and welcome. It turns out that I have already liked one of them. Guess I watched it while I was bald and waiting for peach fuzz to grow back on my head. I vaguely remember watching it. The more visual knowledge the better for me at least.
So what was the cut like? Also, did she project such a strong personality back then?
Well, give me the passcodes or right words to say so I can crash the party. Are they asking for proof?
I’m not sure how I got around to sifting through these long lives on Mielle IG. I watched the one on the wash n go using the Pom and Honey line. Listening to the stylist Jay Renee talk about her process counters some of what the A’s and Rhonda are saying and even some of the directions on the packaging. After watching all of these lives, there is no denying that Mielle is a product pushing company. People have hoards of products and don’t even know how to use them. How and why?
She talks about using the leave-in while at the bowl and uses it to reduce frizz before stylers. She too points out that those 3 row smoothing combs is a good option. It was said to use the mousse on wet hair instead of damp hair. The directions say damp. On the directions of the mousse, it also does not mention the use of the leave-in like the other stylers in the line.
Trying the A’s and Rhonda’s technique of saturating wet strands with base gel has made a significant dent in my custard. It’s almost gone. The only issue is that I haven’t seen a visual improvement with my hair yet. Actually, I’ve had more odd looking hair days. Interesting. Well, the lower back portion looks more uniform and my hair feels softer when styled.
I’m a different case though because my curls are a by product of taking medicine and more than likely will change. I’ve read that a lot of women can’t even properly chemically treat (e.g. color or relax) this type of hair.
This is what I was doing at first and my hair came out well enough without the effort. Lol I’m going to keep trying the hydration method though.
She talks about using the leave-in while at the bowl and uses it to reduce frizz before stylers. She too points out that those 3 row smoothing combs is a good option. It was said to use the mousse on wet hair instead of damp hair. The directions say damp. On the directions of the mousse, it also does not mention the use of the leave-in like the other stylers in the line.
Trying the A’s and Rhonda’s technique of saturating wet strands with base gel has made a significant dent in my custard. It’s almost gone. The only issue is that I haven’t seen a visual improvement with my hair yet. Actually, I’ve had more odd looking hair days. Interesting. Well, the lower back portion looks more uniform and my hair feels softer when styled.
I’m a different case though because my curls are a by product of taking medicine and more than likely will change. I’ve read that a lot of women can’t even properly chemically treat (e.g. color or relax) this type of hair.
This is what I was doing at first and my hair came out well enough without the effort. Lol I’m going to keep trying the hydration method though.
Can somebody tell me what is the biggest difference between a leave-in and a cream styler with no hold? I understand saying that there is no major purpose of using a styler that provides no hold. Its also being said that the leave-in is an unnecessary layering product when used in a wash and go. If you don’t have hold in a wash and go, essentially you have an Afro/curly fro. Ok, I get that.
So why would I select a no hold cream styler over a leave-in? Is it because of the weight? Does one provide protection from humidity or something?
I’m going to try and use up all the non gel based products that don’t have oils listed in the top 5 to 8 ingredients. Mainly the A’s have mentioned that their technique can incorporate these softer styles if done wisely. You continue to CCS on a regular basis but have to do it more frequently to avoid tangling. These are still being used over a base gel I believe.
Rhonda seems totally fine with mousse/foam wash and goes. Currently she creating her own mousse in addition to gel. She too has been redoing her hair more frequently when using the mousse she is testing.
So why would I select a no hold cream styler over a leave-in? Is it because of the weight? Does one provide protection from humidity or something?
I’m going to try and use up all the non gel based products that don’t have oils listed in the top 5 to 8 ingredients. Mainly the A’s have mentioned that their technique can incorporate these softer styles if done wisely. You continue to CCS on a regular basis but have to do it more frequently to avoid tangling. These are still being used over a base gel I believe.
Rhonda seems totally fine with mousse/foam wash and goes. Currently she creating her own mousse in addition to gel. She too has been redoing her hair more frequently when using the mousse she is testing.
toaster
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@DVAntDany
I’m not a chemist but I think a cream styler with no hold would be analogous to a facial moisturizer. It has both water (for moisture) and also occlusive ingredients to keep the moisture from evaporating so quickly. A leave in is like a serum, it usually has water and maybe some ingredient that tackles a certain problem (detangling, usually) but not enough heavy ingredients to keep the moisture in for very long, that’s why you have to top it with something.
Similar to skincare, no product is going to prevent water from evaporating from your hair, but I’d guess a heavy cream styler slows it down a bit.
I’m not a chemist but I think a cream styler with no hold would be analogous to a facial moisturizer. It has both water (for moisture) and also occlusive ingredients to keep the moisture from evaporating so quickly. A leave in is like a serum, it usually has water and maybe some ingredient that tackles a certain problem (detangling, usually) but not enough heavy ingredients to keep the moisture in for very long, that’s why you have to top it with something.
Similar to skincare, no product is going to prevent water from evaporating from your hair, but I’d guess a heavy cream styler slows it down a bit.
faithVA
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Spoken like a true product junkieI’m not in denial.
Yep, I know I have 12 of those but this one has sparkles so it is different 
faithVA
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No proof needed. I don't remember the questions. I know there are only 3. They are simple. Not making any suggestions but if someone just wanted to join, they couldprobably just make up good sounding answers. And when they got in they would make sure they spoke like someone who was following the A's.Well, give me the passcodes or right words to say so I can crash the party. Are they asking for proof?
faithVA
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Your hair doesn't look dehydrated at all. I would think you would just be working on your technique once you settled in on some products to work with.
faithVA
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Just going with the A's. The A's recommend a base layer which varies with your style. If you are doing a wash and go your base layer is a gel. If you are doing some type of twist out/braid out etc, your base layer is a leave-in. The base layer is botanical and is basically to start the set of your hair. I have not heard the A's recommend a cream product as a base layer. They aren't saying you can't use one but they would ask what the purpose of it is.
If the style is a wash and go, after your base layer you can choose whether to add another layer to address a condition like hold or frizz, etc. That is where toppers come in which can be a gel, mousse, cream depending on your hair and your desired outcome.
With a out style the next layer would be something with hold.
Speaking generally, the only reason I can see using a cream styler with no hold is if the person was going to wear twists or braids and not take them out for a twist out. Or if the person did not want a defined style.
There are some products that might be considered both the base layer and the product with hold.
And there are some products that are part of a system, like Kinky Curly that have an application process outside of the A's recommendations.
faithVA
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Watched the first parts of these. It's so funny. So she talks about how to apply the gel in video 1 and in video 2 she does it totally different than what she says in video 1. Just have to glean what I can and figure out the rest.
Mapleoats
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What would the As recommend as a base layer for a twist out? What is the difference between a thick leave in and a cream styler? Do the As suggest liquid leave ins over heavier cream ones? I’m intrigued by this discussion @faithVA @DVAntDany @toaster.
i used the earth tones max gel last night and whew!! That was a new experience. I felt like I had to work hard to get it in my hair and I didn’t particularly like it with the twist cream. The twist cream is basically a gel in its own right. I realized last night I have a lot to learn about product application lol.
i used the earth tones max gel last night and whew!! That was a new experience. I felt like I had to work hard to get it in my hair and I didn’t particularly like it with the twist cream. The twist cream is basically a gel in its own right. I realized last night I have a lot to learn about product application lol.
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