Thin/Fine Support Thread

[Serenity_Peace]

Re: VENT: I'm so through with rollersets!!

I'm sorry Serenity! I really hate that! I went through something similar over the last year. My hair shedding caused me to use wayyy too many new products and in return, my hair acted a fool on me. It seems to be on its way to recovery though so I'm thankful for that. Maybe you should try the volumuzing Nexxus Mousee Foam that the other ladies mentioned a few posts ago. You may end up loving your rollersets. My hair is still a little too fragile for rollersets so I won't be doing them any time soon.

Thank you so much, Cayenne! I will try the Nexxus Mousee Volumizing Foam. I went out and bought the ORS Foaming and Wrap Mousse because I was using only ORS shampoo and conditioner last night. Well, it was the pits. It was awful!! It's such a shame because I really love the aloe shampoo and replenishing conditioner. I also love the ORS mayonaise. But that wrap foaming ish was awful!! It made my hair dry and coarse, hard to detangle. So I will definitely see if the Nexxus foam works. Still looking for a good holding spray that's non-drying. I'll keep ya'll posted...

 

[GodsPromises]

Re: VENT: I'm so through with rollersets!!

Thank you so much, Cayenne! I will try the Nexxus Mousee Volumizing Foam. I went out and bought the ORS Foaming and Wrap Mousse because I was using only ORS shampoo and conditioner last night. Well, it was the pits. It was awful!! It's such a shame because I really love the aloe shampoo and replenishing conditioner. I also love the ORS mayonaise. But that wrap foaming ish was awful!! It made my hair dry and coarse, hard to detangle. So I will definitely see if the Nexxus foam works. Still looking for a good holding spray that's non-drying. I'll keep ya'll posted...

i just went and got the nexxus. i will let everyone know how it works

 

[Serenity_Peace]

Yes, please do keep us posted LadyR and I'll do the same.

 

[CoffeeBean]

Serenity, there is help! Try the Nexxus Mousse Plus vol.....blah, blah, blah and you will find that your rollersets are bouncy and springy w/ enough hold. You should not need any other product to hold the curl. Listen to another fine haired sistah... Once you use it, it will be your "main apple scrapple" . Before you go big choppin' and pullin' out hairs from the root, give this a try. That's what this thread is for...fine/thin haired sistas.(support)

 

[Serenity_Peace]

Serenity, there is help! Try the Nexxus Mousse Plus vol.....blah, blah, blah and you will find that your rollersets are bouncy and springy w/ enough hold. You should not need any other product to hold the curl. Listen to another fine haired sistah... Once you use it, it will be your "main apple scrapple" . Before you go big choppin' and pullin' out hairs from the root, give this a try. That's what this thread is for...fine/thin haired sistas.(support)

Thank you, sweetness! I will most definitely go out and get the mousse. I wish had not gotten that ORS wrapping and mousse crap. Wish I could return that ish, which did nothing but dry my hair out. I can't wait to try this and report back next week when I do my rollerset.

 

[CoffeeBean]

Yeah I tried that mess too. It was quite drying and nothing to write home about. If I can think of anything else before next week, I'll let you know. You won't regret it.

 

[ladytq]

I just posted in another thread about breakage and that led me to post here since we are all kindred thin-heads.
FOR ANY OF YOU THIN HAIRED LADIES WHO HAS:
(1) a relaxer
(2) had consistent breakage

HOW IN THE WORLD DID YOU GET IT TO STOP OR AT LEAST SLOW DOWN TO WHERE IT DOESN'T BOTHER YOU???

I'm asking ladies who have been doing pretty much everything right with their hair only because I know that breakage can come from using products with alcohol and I know it can come from using heat on a regular basis or pulling your hair too tight and all of that stuff. What if you are moisturizing regularly and deep conditioning often and not using heat and only gently bunning or clipping your hair up? I can't figure this out. I thought my issue was using light protein too often so I cut it out altogether (thanks to sistaslick's advice). I still haven't seen a change in my breakage and its been well over 2 weeks since I amp'd up my moisturizer and cut out the protein. It still snaps, snaps, snaps very easily. I'm at a loss.
SOOOOOOOOOO....help a sistah out. I need step by step instructions on how you got your hair to stop breaking even though you thought you were already doing everything right.
THANKS!

THATS HOW I AM FEELING RIGHT NOW!!!!

My hair have been breaking for months now. Regardless my hair is growing and retaining length, BUT STILL !!! To tell you the truth I'm scared to get my hair flat iron, because I don't want to know the truth of the matter. I do know one thing I need a trim bad, which is also contributing to the snaging and breaking.

I bought many products to try to help curve the breakage like;

Conditioners:
Oliveyou Conditioner
Elucence MB con

Oil/butters/treatments:
Basassu Oil
Coconut Oil
Red Palm butter
Ojon restorative treatment (makes my hair soft, but still breakage)

Today I bought:
Castor Oil
Vegetable Glycerine

This weekend I gonna break out my 2+1 by Sebastion and but foil on the lengths my hair and flat iron over the foil for an intensive deep conditioning.

I almost at my wits end and fear I might need a big trim and lose "bsl" progress . I really believe that darn henna was culprit.

I will keep you posted.

 

[Cayenne0622]

THATS HOW I AM FEELING RIGHT NOW!!!!

My hair have been breaking for months now. Regardless my hair is growing and retaining length, BUT STILL !!! To tell you the truth I'm scared to get my hair flat iron, because I don't want to know the truth of the matter. I do know one thing I need a trim bad, which is also contributing to the snaging and breaking.

I bought many products to try to help curve the breakage like;

Conditioners:
Oliveyou Conditioner
Elucence MB con

Oil/butters/treatments:
Basassu Oil
Coconut Oil
Red Palm butter
Ojon restorative treatment (makes my hair soft, but still breakage)

Today I bought:
Castor Oil
Vegetable Glycerine

This weekend I gonna break out my 2+1 by Sebastion and but foil on the lengths my hair and flat iron over the foil for an intensive deep conditioning.

I almost at my wits end and fear I might need a big trim and lose "bsl" progress . I really believe that darn henna was culprit.

I will keep you posted.

Awww man! Well, my last ditch effort is the program I'm on right now. I used Supergirl's regimen in the thread called something like "so, you think you're doing everything right but your hair is still breaking".
I clarified my hair, used a moisturing shampoo and then did a deep conditioning treatment. Now for the next two weeks I am only going to conditioner wash (no shampoo) use Profectiv Strengthening Moisture during the day w/ Castor Oil and Mizani H20 at night. I did a minor trim the other day and I'm not using any heat. I am hoping and praying this will resolve my breakage issue....if not, I may be in store for a major trim!!

 

[ladytq]

Awww man! Well, my last ditch effort is the program I'm on right now. I used Supergirl's regimen in the thread called something like "so, you think you're doing everything right but your hair is still breaking".
I clarified my hair, used a moisturing shampoo and then did a deep conditioning treatment. Now for the next two weeks I am only going to conditioner wash (no shampoo) use Profectiv Strengthening Moisture during the day w/ Castor Oil and Mizani H20 at night. I did a minor trim the other day and I'm not using any heat. I am hoping and praying this will resolve my breakage issue....if not, I may be in store for a major trim!!

I will pray for you and please pray for me!

 

[CoffeeBean]

I don't think w/ a relaxer one should cut out protein all together. My hair loves moisture too. I prepoo w/ Aphogee 2 min and EVOO. Then proceed to use moisturizing poo and con. No heat, just rollersets. If you prepoo w/ the protein, I think you will find less breakage and your hair will benefit fr all the moisture you use post wash. I dunno, just my .

 

[Serenity_Peace]

I don't think w/ a relaxer one should cut out protein all together. My hair loves moisture too. I prepoo w/ Aphogee 2 min and EVOO. Then proceed to use moisturizing poo and con. No heat, just rollersets. If you prepoo w/ the protein, I think you will find less breakage and your hair will benefit fr all the moisture you use post wash. I dunno, just my .

So, if I'm understanding correctly, you pre-poo with the Aphogee 2 min and EVOO mixed together? After that, you can shampoo and condition. Then rollerset and let the set airdry?

 

[Cayenne0622]

I will pray for you and please pray for me!

Most definitely! We'll be okay...its just a little rough right now.

 

[Cayenne0622]

I don't think w/ a relaxer one should cut out protein all together. My hair loves moisture too. I prepoo w/ Aphogee 2 min and EVOO. Then proceed to use moisturizing poo and con. No heat, just rollersets. If you prepoo w/ the protein, I think you will find less breakage and your hair will benefit fr all the moisture you use post wash. I dunno, just my .

Yeah, I'm going to reintroduce a mild protein back to my regimen after I get my breakage under control because I 'know' mine is breaking from lack of moisture. So I'm on a moisture game until my hair starts feeling too soft and then I'll work a lil protein in after that.

 

[CoffeeBean]

Yep. I find that the Aphogee 2 min is soooo mild, it's almost like a moisturizer. My hair never feels the effect of a "protein" (hard, dry, etc..) b/c the Aphogee 2 min is gentle. Yes, I mix that and the EVOO . Incorporating this prevents the mushiness of too much moisture. I use Neutrogena DDC poo and cond (deep condish w/ cond) and then roller wrap. Depending how bouncy and springy:bouncegreI want my hair--I use the Mousse Plus when I set. I do have a sit under bonnet for the drying process. HTH.

 

[Miss*Tress]

Once upon a time, I did have inexplicable breakage - breaking even though proper protein/moisture levels - when my hair was over-straightened. In all likelihood, fine hair should not be relaxed dead straight. I just had to grow out the overly straightened hair over the course of a year or two.

 

[january noir]

Once upon a time, I did have inexplicable breakage - breaking even though proper protein/moisture levels - when my hair was over-straightened. In all likelihood, fine hair should not be relaxed dead straight. I just had to grow out the overly straightened hair over the course of a year or two.

I agree that fine or thin hair cannot be relaxed too straight. My hairdresser keeps my perm in only for a few minutes and then rinses it out. He also applies the relaxer to my coarsest growth (in the back of my head) first and then to the finer hairs (on my crown and sides) last.

To those experiencing the breakage, are you self-relaxing?

 

[ladytq]

I agree that fine or thin hair cannot be relaxed too straight. My hairdresser keeps my perm in only for a few minutes and then rinses it out. He also applies the relaxer to my coarsest growth (in the back of my head) first and then to the finer hairs (on my crown and sides) last.

To those experiencing the breakage, are you self-relaxing?

No, I'm natural.

 

[AtlantaJJ]

THATS HOW I AM FEELING RIGHT NOW!!!!

My hair have been breaking for months now. Regardless my hair is growing and retaining length, BUT STILL !!! To tell you the truth I'm scared to get my hair flat iron, because I don't want to know the truth of the matter. I do know one thing I need a trim bad, which is also contributing to the snaging and breaking.

I bought many products to try to help curve the breakage like;

Conditioners:
Oliveyou Conditioner
Elucence MB con

Oil/butters/treatments:
Basassu Oil
Coconut Oil
Red Palm butter
Ojon restorative treatment (makes my hair soft, but still breakage)

Today I bought:
Castor Oil
Vegetable Glycerine

This weekend I gonna break out my 2+1 by Sebastion and but foil on the lengths my hair and flat iron over the foil for an intensive deep conditioning.

I almost at my wits end and fear I might need a big trim and lose "bsl" progress . I really believe that darn henna was culprit.

I will keep you posted.

Henna can be really tricky for fine hair. You have to use a lot of oils in your mixture and then use moisture like it's going out of style. My hair does well with the Sebastian Cellophanes, it gives it body and shine and helps fill in the cuticle which helps with the porosity.

 

[SelfStyled]

Henna can be really tricky for fine hair. You have to use a lot of oils in your mixture and then use moisture like it's going out of style. My hair does well with the Sebastian Cellophanes, it gives it body and shine and helps fill in the cuticle which helps with the porosity.

It sounds like a catch22, if anyone could benefit from Henna, it's us. Do you think those of us with fine hair would do better with a henna gloss? I have just bought some Henna and am really torn about using it. I do not want to cause myself to have a setback. I was thinking it would be safe to leave it on for just an hour and see what kind of results I get.

 

[hennagirl]

8/22/07 Walgreen's 2 for 2 sale on SAMY products. I highly recommend the Fat Hair line. I use the mousse, thickening creme and pomade. They give thickness without being hard or crunchy. You are able to brush or comb with ease. I use the mousse and then dilute the thickening creme with water and put my hair in ponytail roller set for extra volume. I brush most of the curl away and I have nice shiny thick hair about 2 inches from BSL. January, I hope I am doing this right.

 

[divinefavor]

What is henna gloss?

 

[AtlantaJJ]

It sounds like a catch22, if anyone could benefit from Henna, it's us. Do you think those of us with fine hair would do better with a henna gloss? I have just bought some Henna and am really torn about using it. I do not want to cause myself to have a setback. I was thinking it would be safe to leave it on for just an hour and see what kind of results I get.

I think you just have to get your mixture right...I found it to be drying so I went back to the Cellopanes...I might have been having some dryness issues in the first place back then. Pehaps some other fine haired ladies can chime in here on the use / benefits of henna...

 

[january noir]

8/22/07 Walgreen's 2 for 2 sale on SAMY products. I highly recommend the Fat Hair line. I use the mousse, thickening creme and pomade. They give thickness without being hard or crunchy. You are able to brush or comb with ease. I use the mousse and then dilute the thickening creme with water and put my hair in ponytail roller set for extra volume. I brush most of the curl away and I have nice shiny thick hair about 2 inches from BSL. January, I hope I am doing this right.

Hennagirl you did just fine!

 

[fluffylocks]

What is henna gloss?

A couple of spoons of henna with some conditoner


Henna was very drying to my hair and made it very tangly, it took a long time to rinse out, smell lasted long and everything
But Henna glosses let my get the results of thicker hair and shine plus softness and not as much color or smell---But i dont add that much at all, a spoon at the most

 

[SelfStyled]

A couple of spoons of henna with some conditoner


Henna was very drying to my hair and made it very tangly, it took a long time to rinse out, smell lasted long and everything
But Henna glosses let my get the results of thicker hair and shine plus softness and not as much color or smell---But i dont add that much at all, a spoon at the most

Fluffy would you say an hour is a good amount of time to leave it on?

 

[divinefavor]

Thanks ladies!

 

[SandySea]

Another fine-haired girl checkin' in (if I haven't already). I didn't even know that my hair was fine before this board, but I don't mind it. Just means a little extra TLC. My hair has been pretty healthy for the last few years, I just haven't gained length. I've finally figured out that it was the braids I was wearing that caused my ends to suddenly appear shredded causing me to have to cut 2-3 inches every time (slow learner). Now I'm staying away from braids and my hair has been growing very well since my cut (in siggy). I've even started relaxing my own hair.

Like the other ladies here, I find that less is more. I actually only dress my hair with a serum once or twice a week. I let my moisture come from my weekly DCing. Too much moisture and my hair becomes mush and breaks all over the place. My rule is KISS, and I don't do protective styles any more. I always had a strange pattern of thinning when doing buns, etc. I either wear it down or in a simple pony. It's working so far. Good luck and happy growing to all the fine ladies .

 

[Cayenne0622]

I agree that fine or thin hair cannot be relaxed too straight. My hairdresser keeps my perm in only for a few minutes and then rinses it out. He also applies the relaxer to my coarsest growth (in the back of my head) first and then to the finer hairs (on my crown and sides) last.

To those experiencing the breakage, are you self-relaxing?

I am self-relaxing. I have for years with no problems. My issue came from underprocessing/texlaxing on a couple of relaxers and then also the drying prescription shampoo my derm had me using for a month. I am happy to say that I think the co-washing and Mizani H20 are working. I don't see the hair all over my hands anymore and I've only been on this program for less than a week. After 2 weeks, I'll let you know if the system worked!

 

[Cayenne0622]

A couple of spoons of henna with some conditoner


Henna was very drying to my hair and made it very tangly, it took a long time to rinse out, smell lasted long and everything
But Henna glosses let my get the results of thicker hair and shine plus softness and not as much color or smell---But i dont add that much at all, a spoon at the most

I agree. I ALWAYS add EVOO, Jojoba, Honey, Amla Oil and 1-2 tablespoons of moisturizing conditioner to my henna. Wonderful, strong silky results.

 

[ladytq]

I think henna like protein works really well on relaxed heads. As a natural, I have to be careful with protein and I realize also with henna. You live and you learn.