Thin/Fine Support Thread

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Re: Nexxus Mousse Plus Alcohol Free Voumizing Foam Styler

Got my touch-up relaxer on Saturday where my hairstylist cut and balanced my hair. I have several layers because of breakage issues on my crown. He suggested I stop using henna for awhile. He thinks the henna is making my hair hard which makes my hair break on my coarser strands. I was unhappy when he told me this...:perplexed

Well he did use the Mousse and it was ok. My hair was a little fuller, but I am not sure I like how it made my hair feel when it was all said and done.

I will continue to use it until it is gone.

My hairstylist said that I should blowdry my hair after washing because it would help to smooth the cuticle and help prevent my hair from snapping a bit.

I am going to listen to him; when he was doing my hair, my hair was longer, stronger and no breakage. I guess I am not good at doing my own hair. :nono:

I went so far as to purchase a flatiron (I bought the FHI Heat Platform) to aid in smoothing my strands. I will use this after airdrying and at least once a month. I have purchased heat protectorant (CHI and I ordered the FHI Hot Sauce).
 
january noir said:
Update:

Re: Nexxus Mousse Plus Alcohol Free Voumizing Foam Styler

Got my touch-up relaxer on Saturday where my hairstylist cut and balanced my hair. I have several layers because of breakage issues on my crown. He suggested I stop using henna for awhile. He thinks the henna is making my hair hard which makes my hair break on my coarser strands. I was unhappy when he told me this...:perplexed

Well he did use the Mousse and it was ok. My hair was a little fuller, but I am not sure I like how it made my hair feel when it was all said and done.

I will continue to use it until it is gone.

My hairstylist said that I should blowdry my hair after washing because it would help to smooth the cuticle and help prevent my hair from snapping a bit.

I am going to listen to him; when he was doing my hair, my hair was longer, stronger and no breakage. I guess I am not good at doing my own hair. :nono:

I went so far as to purchase a flatiron (I bought the FHI Heat Platform) to aid in smoothing my strands. I will use this after airdrying and at least once a month. I have purchased heat protectorant (CHI and I ordered the FHI Hot Sauce).
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I won't be blow drying my hair but I tend to agree with him because my hair snaps more when I just wear it in an airdried bun versus when I would flat iron my hair and then bun it for the rest of the week. I think going forward I will shampoo and flat iron my hair once a week.
 
Serenity_Peace said:
Will you keep us posted, JN? I'm interested in your progress.:yep:
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Sure will!

I have noticed so far since my visit to my hairdresser and my first attempt at flatironing my hair (never did it before) that I have less hair fall.

Could be the reconstructor after my touch up too.

I need to post some pics...
 
january noir said:
Sure will!

I have noticed so far since my visit to my hairdresser and my first attempt at flatironing my hair (never did it before) that I have less hair fall.

Could be the reconstructor after my touch up too.

I need to post some pics...
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Also forgot to add. I had to have a good CUT! I had ONE LLLLOOONG section in the back after my touch up; bottom of my shoulder blade and the rest was all uneven and raggedy.
 
Cayenne0622 said:
I won't be blow drying my hair but I tend to agree with him because my hair snaps more when I just wear it in an airdried bun versus when I would flat iron my hair and then bun it for the rest of the week. I think going forward I will shampoo and flat iron my hair once a week.
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That's why I bought the flatiron Cayenne.
I have airdried for so long at home (had cut down going to get my hair done; only for touch-ups) that I didn't have heat appliances.

I broke down, bought a hairdry and the flatiron and noticed immediately that I have less hair falling out when I comb and handle my hair. It's finer because the strands are sleeker, but I can live with that!

I guess airdrying is best when you have heat damaged hair, but if it's not, then a little heat on the hair is actually a good thing perhaps...

There is a thread that resurfaced the other day and it's just what I needed about Using heat safely, turning up the heat. I am gong to follow this...

http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=129013&referrerid=17993
 
january noir said:
That's why I bought the flatiron Cayenne.
I have airdried for so long at home (had cut down going to get my hair done; only for touch-ups) that I didn't have heat appliances.

I broke down, bought a hairdry and the flatiron and noticed immediately that I have less hair falling out when I comb and handle my hair. It's finer because the strands are sleeker, but I can live with that!

I guess airdrying is best when you have heat damaged hair, but if it's not, then a little heat on the hair is actually a good thing perhaps...

There is a thread that resurfaced the other day and it's just what I needed about Using heat safely, turning up the heat. I am gong to follow this...

http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=129013&referrerid=17993
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Part of the air drying issue is that heat helps smooth the cuticle. For fine hair ladies like us, allowing our already thinner cuticle to dry raised and then try to style can just as much damage as using heat.
 
gymfreak336 said:
Part of the air drying issue is that heat helps smooth the cuticle. For fine hair ladies like us, allowing our already thinner cuticle to dry raised and then try to style can just as much damage as using heat.
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I see that now. :yep: Now to keep heat damage to nil
 
gymfreak336 said:
Part of the air drying issue is that heat helps smooth the cuticle. For fine hair ladies like us, allowing our already thinner cuticle to dry raised and then try to style can just as much damage as using heat.
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I understand this completly...i was wondering why my hair didnt look "right" when i airdry and flatiron, and i realized that the hair tends to look better when dryed with some kind of heat, i was trying to go by ladies who said they use no heat to dry, but realized that alot of them use dome dryers, and that is still some form of heat to help the hair dry better versus nothing at all

But this is where im confused.....

High ph's open/ruff the cuticles
Low ph's close/smooth the cuticle

Heat openes the cuticles
Cold water closes/smooth the cuticle

So why is it that blowdrying & rollersetting (dome drying) make the hair feel smoother, because it's heat, shouldnt the hair be in feeling worse than airdrying?

I read something on this forum where a poster said our hair is jut like fibers on clothes, and how clothes out the dryer always feel better than clothes left to hang and dry.....but i still dont get it.

Maybe thats why heat isnt good for you, but can be at the same time:spinning:
 
oooh.. that link was great. very informative.

I'm wondering if this is really best:

"You've probably heard that you should use lower blow-dryer heat settings (less heat) for fine hair, so you don't "scorch" or heat-damage hair. The truth is, it matters more your hair is exposed to heat for less time. So, use high heat and dry your hair faster. Don't use a lower setting and expose your hair to heat for a much longer period of time."

hm... :ohwell:
 
fluffylocks said:
I understand this completly...i was wondering why my hair didnt look "right" when i airdry and flatiron, and i realized that the hair tends to look better when dryed with some kind of heat, i was trying to go by ladies who said they use no heat to dry, but realized that alot of them use dome dryers, and that is still some form of heat to help the hair dry better versus nothing at all

But this is where im confused.....

High ph's open/ruff the cuticles
Low ph's close/smooth the cuticle

Heat openes the cuticles
Cold water closes/smooth the cuticle

So why is it that blowdrying & rollersetting (dome drying) make the hair feel smoother, because it's heat, shouldnt the hair be in feeling worse than airdrying?

I read something on this forum where a poster said our hair is jut like fibers on clothes, and how clothes out the dryer always feel better than clothes left to hang and dry.....but i still dont get it.

Maybe thats why heat isnt good for you, but can be at the same time:spinning:
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Heat smooths the cuticle but it can damage it, therefore making the cuticle more prone to be raised. This why rollersetting makes your hair feel smooth. Part of it is the plastic roller and the tension but I notice that my air dried sets still don't feel the same. Using heat constantly will damage your hair....there is no doubt about that. For me however, air drying still gives me damage because I have to manipulate it more when I flat iron it out. That is why I have just been sticking with rollersets.

As far as the cold water rinse thing.....many stylists are saying that its not true.
 
gymfreak336 said:
Heat smooths the cuticle but it can damage it, therefore making the cuticle more prone to be raised. This why rollersetting makes your hair feel smooth. Part of it is the plastic roller and the tension but I notice that my air dried sets still don't feel the same. Using heat constantly will damage your hair....there is no doubt about that. For me however, air drying still gives me damage because I have to manipulate it more when I flat iron it out. That is why I have just been sticking with rollersets.

As far as the cold water rinse thing.....many stylists are saying that its not true.
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Okay thanks, that makes alot of sence

I didnt know that about the cold rinse thing, it has to be alittle true though because before you condition you use warm water, or you go under a hooded dryer to deepcondtion, or use hot steam, because the hair will open up and accept when its under heat (and i guess around water also or wet), i dont think it will work if you try to deepcodntion with cold air...so cold water, even if its only alittle bit should do the exact opposite of heat when around water/wet..... but oh well.:spinning:
 
fluffylocks said:
Okay thanks, that makes alot of sence

I didnt know that about the cold rinse thing, it has to be alittle true though because before you condition you use warm water, or you go under a hooded dryer to deepcondtion, or use hot steam, because the hair will open up and accept when its under heat (and i guess around water also or wet), i dont think it will work if you try to deepcodntion with cold air...so cold water, even if its only alittle bit should do the exact opposite of heat when around water/wet..... but oh well.:spinning:
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The cold water thing confuses me but my theory is that cold water will not rinse as much conditioner residue out as warm water will so you hair feels smoother. :drunk:
 
january noir said:
That's why I bought the flatiron Cayenne.
I have airdried for so long at home (had cut down going to get my hair done; only for touch-ups) that I didn't have heat appliances.

I broke down, bought a hairdry and the flatiron and noticed immediately that I have less hair falling out when I comb and handle my hair. It's finer because the strands are sleeker, but I can live with that!

I guess airdrying is best when you have heat damaged hair, but if it's not, then a little heat on the hair is actually a good thing perhaps...

There is a thread that resurfaced the other day and it's just what I needed about Using heat safely, turning up the heat. I am gong to follow this...

http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=129013&referrerid=17993
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You bring up a good point, my hair always does better with a little heat right after washing (not between) It helps it not break and it apears healthier. I know that is counter to what is stated on the board, but that's my experience. My hair is not relaxed bone straight however...if it was I would try to avoid the heat.

I am really interested in on of those FHI irons, they must be the bomb to cost so darn much!!
 
Since my main source of heat now is when I sit under the hair dryer to roller set, I don't look at it as bad heat for your hair. I love my ION Ionic Blow dryer but I haven't used it in months and probably won't use it unless I am blowing my roots out. If I want or need some curl or bump on the ends of my hair, I use my Conair Curling iron and I haven't used this in weeks, the Saran roller wrap works so well for me it last until I wash again.

My last stretch was short 8 weeks only, I just couldn't hair 2 more weeks' but from now on I will stretch for 10 weeks. If I have to I will blow my roots out for the great final touch for the saran wrap.

I believe if used correctly and sparely heat can be a friend to hair.
 
prtybrwnis said:
Thin, fine hair checking in. check out my fotki and give me suggestions please. Just a little more thickness please!

http://public.fotki.com/prtybrwnishttp://public.fotki.com/prtybrwnis
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Welcome welcome! :hiya::welcome4:

You've come to the right place. I checked out your fotki and you are gorgeous! Love your eyes! Your hair is lovely and your edges are similar to mine! I think (I am not the expert here) that you are a 3c/4a.
Am I safe to presume your are relaxed? I could not tell from the fotki.
What is your regimen?

Anyhow, there is no magic bullet out there for us; just products that give the temporary illusion of thicker fuller hair.

The things I have tried (supplements, castor oil, mousse, etc.) help, but cannot change what grows out of my head!

For starters I think tips you find on this support thread will help us in our journey; sharing what each of us have discovered about thin/fine hair.
 
AtlantaJJ said:
You bring up a good point, my hair always does better with a little heat right after washing (not between) It helps it not break and it apears healthier. I know that is counter to what is stated on the board, but that's my experience.
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neonbright said:
I believe if used correctly and sparely heat can be a friend to hair.
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I think this is a theory to pay attention to. I blowdryed & flatironed my hair on Monday and it's Saturday today and I haven't had to do anything extra to my hair to make it look decent.
I will be careful and only use either the blowdryer or the flatiron and not both. :yep: I will leave that up to my hairstylist to do when I get my hair done. :yep:

And another thing...
I am going back to getting my hair done every other week by my hairstylist. He can see and correct any possible setbacks before they take a toll on my hair. My hair was better when he did it. :yep:
 
january noir said:
Welcome welcome! :hiya::welcome4:

You've come to the right place. I checked out your fotki and you are gorgeous! Love your eyes! Your hair is lovely and your edges are similar to mine! I think (I am not the expert here) that you are a 3c/4a.
Am I safe to presume your are relaxed? I could not tell from the fotki.
What is your regimen?

Anyhow, there is no magic bullet out there for us; just products that give the temporary illusion of thicker fuller hair.

The things I have tried (supplements, castor oil, mousse, etc.) help, but cannot change what grows out of my head!

For starters I think tips you find on this support thread will help us in our journey; sharing what each of us have discovered about thin/fine hair.
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Thanks JN! Yes, my hair is relaxed. I'm at 8 1/2 weeks stretched right now. My avatar was from last weekend. I'm trying to get all the tips I can from you guys. When I get my hair done at the salon it looks much fuller. Also, when I roller set it's fuller. Otherwise, I'm trying to maneuver my edges to cover up my scalp. It's been like this since I was a child but somehow I keep hoping I can change it a little. We'll see. I tried to go natural but my hair gets too frizzy and wavy. That would of probably made my hair thicker if I could sustain a press.
 
My hair is fine, medium density. I have always felt like a lot of you--that it was really hard to do much with it. My hair HATES anything heavy like grease or oils, hates straight and hates wraps--it'll just fly away and separate. What it loves is curls, so I wear rollersets anytime my hair is down. Otherwise I pull it back. I use poo, con, a leave-in and a setting lotion. And during the week I'll apply something to my ends to keep them healthy.

I've started to lose some hair, so now density is more a priority than ever. I found that henna does a nice job creating some thickness; I also use thickening shampoos now and again to get some extra volume. And yes--I definitely do a lot of arranging to make sure stuff is covered and looking as full as it can before I go out--especially now, with hair loss.

I've come to accept that we don't all get the thick, luscious locks other women are blessed with. But my hair is soft, grows like a weed and looks beautiful when it's done, so that's OK. I do believe in wearing styles that complement us, not styles that simply demonstrate our love for long hair. If you look worlds better with shorter hair, why not look your best? I've worn both short and long styles through the years, and hands down I look better with longer hair. So that's what I strive for. Hair is meant to complement our features, so I'd say go with what works best for yours--whether it's long OR short hair.
 
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Blu217 said:
My hair is fine, medium density. I have always felt like a lot of you--that it was really hard to do much with it. My hair HATES anything heavy like grease or oils, hates straight and hates wraps--it'll just fly away and separate. What it loves is curls, so I wear rollersets anytime my hair is down. Otherwise I pull it back. I use poo, con, a leave-in and a setting lotion. And during the week I'll apply something to my ends to keep them healthy.

I've started to lose some hair, so now density is more a priority than ever. I found that henna does a nice job creating some thickness; I also use thickening shampoos now and again to get some extra volume. And yes--I definitely do a lot of arranging to make sure stuff is covered and looking as full as it can before I go out--especially now, with hair loss.

I've come to accept that we don't all get the thick, luscious locks other women are blessed with. But my hair is soft, grows like a weed and looks beautiful when it's done, so that's OK. I do believe in wearing styles that complement us, not styles that simply demonstrate our love for long hair. If you look worlds better with shorter hair, why not look your best? I've worn both short and long styles through the years, and hands down I look better with longer hair. So that's what I strive for. Hair is meant to complement our features, so I'd say go with what works best for yours--whether it's long OR short hair.
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Hi Blu! Glad you stopped by!
I definitely hear what you are saying and appreciate your comments.

I have genetically thin hair and as I age my hair gets thinner and thinner.
I don't have alopecia, but I battle a thinning crown and wispy sides.

I dread wearing my hair out and resort to just pulling it back on a daily basis and sometimes throw on a wig or my UPA. I've had full weaves and sew in ponytails for many, many years until early last year when my sister died. When that happened I realized what was really important and decided to wear my own hair, no matter what! :yep: I said to the world, "this is me, take or leave it!"

Whenever I do wear my hair down, I spend a lot of time arranging and so on, to make it appear fuller and just recently, I have been battling more breakage in the crown area so my hairstylist cut and balanced my hair which had grown to my shoulder blades, but was so thin, it wasn't worth the length.

Anyhow, it is a battle, but it's worth fighting. There are so many products and techniques we can use to make us beautiful (and we are!) so let's rejoice in that and keep it moving! :grin:

Love ya!
 
Another fine hair sista checking in. :wavey:

Thanks to my stylist, I have recovered from having fine and weak hair. She uses Back To Basics fortifying shampoo and conditioner on my hair which has strengthen and thicken my hair. It also leaves my hair silky and shiny. It contains wheat proteins, corn and soy and it smells sooooooo good. My stylist told me that fortifying shampoo is best for my hair type because it builds the hair and that too much protein is not good for it.

You can buy back to basics at Ulta, beauty brands or even in the salon at Walmart. Well worth the money.




http://www.backtobasics.com/haircare/fortifying.php
 
mosaiksoul said:
Another fine hair sista checking in. :wavey:

Thanks to my stylist, I have recovered from having fine and weak hair. She uses Back To Basics fortifying shampoo and conditioner on my hair which has strengthen and thicken my hair. It also leaves my hair silky and shiny. It contains wheat proteins, corn and soy and it smells sooooooo good. My stylist told me that fortifying shampoo is best for my hair type because it builds the hair and that too much protein is not good for it.

You can buy back to basics at Ulta, beauty brands or even in the salon at Walmart. Well worth the money.




http://www.backtobasics.com/haircare/fortifying.php
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Sounds like a good product. I may put it on my to try list. :grin:
 
The Back To Basics product has been a blessing for me and my daughter's hair along with the Affirm's Moisture Plus relaxer.

I had to start over with my hair growth due to breakage caused by me putting too much protein in my hair. So I am now happy that I am learning about the right products to put in my hair. :drunk:
 
mosaiksoul said:
The Back To Basics product has been a blessing for me and my daughter's hair along with the Affirm's Moisture Plus relaxer.

I had to start over with my hair growth due to breakage caused by me putting too much protein in my hair. So I am now happy that I am learning about the right products to put in my hair. :drunk:
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The No-Lye relaxer does well on your hair? I thought no-lye was bad for our fine hair....I remember Affirm being a good relaxer for me back in the day. I am very interested in their Fiberguard formula.
 
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Hi Ladies!
My hair is fine with medium desity. I normally wear my down throughout the week and I rely on rollersets to provide more volume & movement for my hair. I believe the "less is more" concept is crucial for fine hair types. I pre poo, wash, & conditon once a week. I use a liquid & cream leave in & a dab of serum to seal each time I rollerset to avoid weighing my hair down.
I look forward to learning & sharing with my fine hair sistas :grin:
 
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