Thin/Fine Support Thread

[GodsPromises]

Another fine haired sister checking in. My problem is that my curls don't hold. Does anyone have a suggestion for a non-drying holding spray that I can use daily to hold my curls.

I rollerset my hair everyday. Either at night or in the morning before I get in the shower and when I take the rollers out I have nice bouncy curls but by the time I leave the house they have dropped. I am thinking maybe I need to use a little setting form as well.

Any suggestions would be great.

 

[Cayenne0622]

Another fine haired sister checking in. My problem is that my curls don't hold. Does anyone have a suggestion for a non-drying holding spray that I can use daily to hold my curls.

I rollerset my hair everyday. Either at night or in the morning before I get in the shower and when I take the rollers out I have nice bouncy curls but by the time I leave the house they have dropped. I am thinking maybe I need to use a little setting form as well.

Any suggestions would be great.

You may have to try a light mousse or setting lotion. I would use either one sparingly so that you don't end up with crunch curls. Elasta QP Design Foam is a good mousse and so is Proclaim Foaming wrap lotion w/Olive Oil. Hope one of those helps..again use sparingly and spray lots of water to hydrate.

 

[GodsPromises]

Thanks I will try a foaming lotion the next time I wash my hair. I wonder what I can use on dry hair to hold the curl when I everyday roll or can I try the setting foam on dry hair as well. I think that I have EQ setting lotion at home.

 

[hOnii]

Another fine haired sister checking in. My problem is that my curls don't hold. Does anyone have a suggestion for a non-drying holding spray that I can use daily to hold my curls.

I rollerset my hair everyday. Either at night or in the morning before I get in the shower and when I take the rollers out I have nice bouncy curls but by the time I leave the house they have dropped. I am thinking maybe I need to use a little setting form as well.

Any suggestions would be great.

what kind of rollers are you using? unless they are steam rollers, if you are doing it in the morning, it may not have enough time to completely set. if the curls are the slightest bit damp, they will fall. the steam from the shower could contribute to the moisture. but you could try some setting lotion, and that should help. i use lottabody.. but i don't normally use it often to avoid crunchy sets.

 

[GodsPromises]

I am using regular magnatic rollers. I normally rollerset at night and sleep on them so I am thinking about the setting foam. Just a wee bit to get a hold.

 

[hOnii]

So.. I finally got a relaxer yesterday, and I was sooo surprised that for the second time, a stylist said that my hair was coarse. Since I've started taking these vits, my new growth has thickened, and I could barely even stretch to 8-weeks like I normally do! Although she manhandled my hair (she brought out the fine toothed comb and started tearing through my new growth. then when she was checking me under the dryer, she roughly grabbed my hair and i could hear hairs breaking ) ...my hair still feels a lot thicker.

Instead of just blowdrying me, she put a foaming setting lotion in my hair, and shaped it, then put me under the dryer. Then when I was almost completely dry, she blowdried the rest of my hair. I think I'm going to adapt this method. Maybe eliminate the blowdrying step. I've never used setting lotion in my hair to airdry... maybe that will work. The stylists knew a lot about hair, and seemed to care about healthy hair practices. She even suggested Phytorelaxer!! I was shockeed. But, she was just too rough and heavy handed for me, and I think I'll keep my strands and go elsewhere. I'm so excited!

I'm anxious to see if in a year or two, I will have a whole new head of hair that I could possible call medium density!

 

[GodsPromises]

Has any of you fine haired ladies used the Caruso Steam Roller system. If so how did it work for you.

 

[Serenity_Peace]

Has any of you fine haired ladies used the Caruso Steam Roller system. If so how did it work for you.

Yes! I love my Caruso's. I purchased my set from eBay. You can find the system there for pretty reasonable price. I love the way they work on my hair, but like you, I still to find a non-drying holding spray because my hair DOES NOT hold curls, even when rolled tightly using smaller rollers.

 

[GodsPromises]

You may have to try a light mousse or setting lotion. I would use either one sparingly so that you don't end up with crunch curls. Elasta QP Design Foam is a good mousse and so is Proclaim Foaming wrap lotion w/Olive Oil. Hope one of those helps..again use sparingly and spray lots of water to hydrate.

I got curls and bounce today ladies. It is 2:15 and I still have some curls. What I did last night was added Lottabody to my spray bottle. As I roll my hair I would spray the rollers with water and put on my hair and let set and viola my curls haven't dropped.

 

[Artemis]

I got curls and bounce today ladies. It is 2:15 and I still have some curls. What I did last night was added Lottabody to my spray bottle. As I roll my hair I would spray the rollers with water and put on my hair and let set and viola my curls haven't dropped.

I do that! I like it. The difference is that I put in a separate spray bottle 5% Motions Herbals Setting spray, 5% Motions Nourish Leave in, and 90% water. After I rinse out my DC, I spray my hair all over once with this mix, comb through, then proceed to rollerset, using my other water bottle (with water only) for re-wetting individual sections. Hold and bounce for days, y'all! I also notice that my roots get a little straighter in the set.

 

[january noir]

I got curls and bounce today ladies. It is 2:15 and I still have some curls. What I did last night was added Lottabody to my spray bottle. As I roll my hair I would spray the rollers with water and put on my hair and let set and viola my curls haven't dropped.

Excellent! Lottabody is a favorite of mine as well. I've been using it for years!

 

[Bmack]

I am a fine haired chick...I am going through a lot with my hair right now too.

 

[january noir]

I am a fine haired chick...I am going through a lot with my hair right now too.

Welcome Sis! Hopefully you'll find something here that will work for you. We with Fine and/or Thin hair have special needs. Most of us of found that we cannot do things to our hair that others with medium or thick strands can. Hang in! Your hair will turn around.

 

[Cayenne0622]

I just posted in another thread about breakage and that led me to post here since we are all kindred thin-heads.
FOR ANY OF YOU THIN HAIRED LADIES WHO HAS:
(1) a relaxer
(2) had consistent breakage

HOW IN THE WORLD DID YOU GET IT TO STOP OR AT LEAST SLOW DOWN TO WHERE IT DOESN'T BOTHER YOU???

I'm asking ladies who have been doing pretty much everything right with their hair only because I know that breakage can come from using products with alcohol and I know it can come from using heat on a regular basis or pulling your hair too tight and all of that stuff. What if you are moisturizing regularly and deep conditioning often and not using heat and only gently bunning or clipping your hair up? I can't figure this out. I thought my issue was using light protein too often so I cut it out altogether (thanks to sistaslick's advice). I still haven't seen a change in my breakage and its been well over 2 weeks since I amp'd up my moisturizer and cut out the protein. It still snaps, snaps, snaps very easily. I'm at a loss.
SOOOOOOOOOO....help a sistah out. I need step by step instructions on how you got your hair to stop breaking even though you thought you were already doing everything right.
THANKS!

 

[hOnii]

What kind of products are you using? Any growth aids?

 

[Serenity_Peace]

Ladies who experience breakage,

RUN, DON'T WALK to your nearest BSS and pick up: MIZANI H2O INTENSE NIGHT-TIME TREATMENT

I had been experiencing some breakage. I'm not entirely sure why, but I have. This treatment, which has been raved about on this forum for some time, has stopped my breakage in its tracks. I just started using it for the last few days. The treatment is NOT greasy. NOT sticky. And has some good stuff in it. I sealed my ends with a little castor oil. The directions say to use this for 2 weeks straight every night, but I've only been using for a few nights and experience no more breakage.

Yes, this product is expensive, but to me, it's worth every penny especially if you care about maintaining you hair.

Good luck and keep us posted on your treatments.

SP

 

[Cayenne0622]

What kind of products are you using? Any growth aids?

I'm doing hot oil treatments once a week with:
EVOO, Jojoba Oil and Coconut Oil
I shampoo with eithe Motions Moisture Plus or Elasta QP shampoo for relaxed hair (I like it because it has a low ph 4.5-5.5).
I deep condition with either Elasta QP DPR11, Lustrasilk's Cholesterol with Shea Butter, or AO Honeysuckle Rose. I add honey, evoo, and a little bit of Silk Amino Acid to each of these conditioners.
I do a diluted ACV rinse once a week because my hair was porous at one time but thanks to the ACV rinses, my hair is no longer overly porous.
I also recently added a final honey rinse to my regimen because it make my hair very soft.
I lightly comb my hair just to detangle and apply Giovanni Direct as my leave in, tie my hair down with wrap strips (so that it will dry smooth) and airdry my hair.

Its soft when it dries but I notice that if I don't flat iron it to get it smooth (once consistent texture all over) then it breaks more than had I flat-ironed it. I don't want to use heat each time I wash my hair but I'm thinking I might have to. I can cut my washes to once a week instead of twice so that I'm ony flat-ironing with heat protectant once a week.

Suggestions?

 

[Cayenne0622]

Oh...also. I do take Ultranourishair, vitamin C, a multi-vitamin and recently added silica.

 

[Cayenne0622]

Ladies who experience breakage,

RUN, DON'T WALK to your nearest BSS and pick up: MIZANI H2O INTENSE NIGHT-TIME TREATMENT

I had been experiencing some breakage. I'm not entirely sure why, but I have. This treatment, which has been raved about on this forum for some time, has stopped my breakage in its tracks. I just started using it for the last few days. The treatment is NOT greasy. NOT sticky. And has some good stuff in it. I sealed my ends with a little castor oil. The directions say to use this for 2 weeks straight every night, but I've only been using for a few nights and experience no more breakage.

Yes, this product is expensive, but to me, it's worth every penny especially if you care about maintaining you hair.

Good luck and keep us posted on your treatments.

SP

Thanks girl. Unfortunately, I tried this before and it didn't work for me. Maybe I didn't use it long enough. I don't remember how long I used it. I'm willing to purchase it again if it'll help. Are you moisturizing, adding this on top, and then sealing with castor oil?

 

[Serenity_Peace]

I added the treatment, then just sealed my ends with castor oil. In the mornings, I use my daily moisturizer, sealed with a light oil. They suggest that you use the treatment every night for two weeks!

 

[Artemis]

I'm doing hot oil treatments once a week with:
EVOO, Jojoba Oil and Coconut Oil
I shampoo with eithe Motions Moisture Plus or Elasta QP shampoo for relaxed hair (I like it because it has a low ph 4.5-5.5).
I deep condition with either Elasta QP DPR11, Lustrasilk's Cholesterol with Shea Butter, or AO Honeysuckle Rose. I add honey, evoo, and a little bit of Silk Amino Acid to each of these conditioners.
I do a diluted ACV rinse once a week because my hair was porous at one time but thanks to the ACV rinses, my hair is no longer overly porous.
I also recently added a final honey rinse to my regimen because it make my hair very soft.
I lightly comb my hair just to detangle and apply Giovanni Direct as my leave in, tie my hair down with wrap strips (so that it will dry smooth) and airdry my hair.

Its soft when it dries but I notice that if I don't flat iron it to get it smooth (once consistent texture all over) then it breaks more than had I flat-ironed it. I don't want to use heat each time I wash my hair but I'm thinking I might have to. I can cut my washes to once a week instead of twice so that I'm ony flat-ironing with heat protectant once a week.

Suggestions?

I think you should try a light/moderate protein again. Your products are highly moisturizing and fatty. I suspect that the strands may be stretched out and are snapping because there is no structure. I like the Mizani Night-time treatment for emergency breakage, but because I've been incorporating protein based products in my regimen as regulars, I haven't needed to use it

HTH

 

[Cayenne0622]

I added the treatment, then just sealed my ends with castor oil. In the mornings, I use my daily moisturizer, sealed with a light oil. They suggest that you use the treatment every night for two weeks!

Okay, I'll hit the BSS this evening and try one mo' 'gin. I hope this worked. I also re-read one of the tips that said not to use shampoo for a couple of weeks and only conditioner wash so I might give that a shot while I'm at it. Guys, I think I finally hit shoulder length and I'm so scared that I might have to trim away the length because of this constant breakage. I have not been able to get it under control for months now.

 

[Cayenne0622]

I think you should try a light/moderate protein again. Your products are highly moisturizing and fatty. I suspect that the strands may be stretched out and are snapping because there is no structure. I like the Mizani Night-time treatment for emergency breakage, but because I've been incorporating protein based products in my regimen as regulars, I haven't needed to use it
HTH

Girl, my hair is not stretching at all. Its snapping immediately. Everyday, I'll pick up a few of the longer broken pieces and gently tug at them and it pops immediately. I get mad as hell!!!

I have been trying to find my perfect daily moisturizer. Elasta QP Oil Recovery Moisturizer seems to agree with my hair. I also have Aveda and NTM.

 

[Artemis]

Girl, my hair is not stretching at all. Its snapping immediately. Everyday, I'll pick up a few of the longer broken pieces and gently tug at them and it pops immediately. I get mad as hell!!!

I have been trying to find my perfect daily moisturizer. Elasta QP Oil Recovery Moisturizer seems to agree with my hair. I also have Aveda and NTM.

Oh! Ok then...

Clarify and use your thickest moisturizing DC you have. That's all I got.

 

[Artemis]

Also, when I had this problem, I sprayed my hair w/that Dove mist prior to my moisturizer. Then I sealed w/oil. I did that for a while, then stopped.

Lately I use Meadowfoam oil, which is good for retaining/attracting moisture...

ETA:

You know what?? I still think you should try a mild/moderate protein (after clarifying first). Something like Aphogee 2 min. Don't ask me why, it's a gut feeling. The DC w/a moisturizing conditioner afterwards.

 

[Cayenne0622]

Also, when I had this problem, I sprayed my hair w/that Dove mist prior to my moisturizer. Then I sealed w/oil. I did that for a while, then stopped.

Lately I use Meadowfoam oil, which is good for retaining/attracting moisture...

I'm going to try that Dove mist. I've been hearing good things.

 

[Artemis]

I think I edited my post right when you were replying...

 

[hOnii]

Ladies who experience breakage,

RUN, DON'T WALK to your nearest BSS and pick up: MIZANI H2O INTENSE NIGHT-TIME TREATMENT

I had been experiencing some breakage. I'm not entirely sure why, but I have. This treatment, which has been raved about on this forum for some time, has stopped my breakage in its tracks. I just started using it for the last few days. The treatment is NOT greasy. NOT sticky. And has some good stuff in it. I sealed my ends with a little castor oil. The directions say to use this for 2 weeks straight every night, but I've only been using for a few nights and experience no more breakage.

Yes, this product is expensive, but to me, it's worth every penny especially if you care about maintaining you hair.

Good luck and keep us posted on your treatments.

SP

which, i have a bottle of this for sale btw ;-)

 

[Irie1]

Are there any thin/fine haired ladies in the tri-state area (DE, PA or NJ)? If so, where are you located. I'm going to need major support and am looking for a thin/fine haired buddy.

I'm part of the newbie challenge as well, but my wonderful big sis is in Texas.

Just curious.

 

[GodsPromises]

Are there any thin/fine haired ladies in the tri-state area (DE, PA or NJ)? If so, where are you located. I'm going to need major support and am looking for a thin/fine haired buddy.

I'm part of the newbie challenge as well, but my wonderful big sis is in Texas.

Just curious.

I'm in DE (Dover). PM me