Supreme Court to Decide on Same Sex Marriage
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I love Job Chapter 5....
8.....But if it were I, I would appeal to God;
I would lay my cause before him.
9 He performs wonders that cannot be fathomed,
miracles that cannot be counted.
10 He bestows rain on the earth;
he sends water upon the countryside.
11 The lowly he sets on high,
and those who mourn are lifted to safety.
12 He thwarts the plans of the crafty,
so that their hands achieve no success.
13 He catches the wise in their craftiness,
and the schemes of the wily are swept away.
14 Darkness comes upon them in the daytime;
at noon they grope as in the night.
15 He saves the needy from the sword in their mouth;
he saves them from the clutches of the powerful.
16 So the poor have hope,
and injustice shuts its mouth.
17“ Blessed is the man whom God corrects;
so do not despise the discipline of the Almighty.a
18 For he wounds, but he also binds up;
he injures, but his hands also heal.
19 From six calamities he will rescue you;
in seven no harm will befall you.
20 In famine he will ransom you from death,
and in battle from the stroke of the sword.
21 You will be protected from the lash of the tongue,
and need not fear when destruction comes.
22 You will laugh at destruction and famine,
and need not fear the beasts of the earth.
23 For you will have a covenant with the stones of the field,
and the wild animals will be at peace with you.
24 You will know that your tent is secure;
you will take stock of your property and find nothing missing.
25 You will know that your children will be many,
and your descendants like the grass of the earth.
26 You will come to the grave in full vigor,
like sheaves gathered in season.
27 “We have examined this, and it is true.
So hear it and apply it to yourself.”
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Yes my dear sister, Lady Belle. I am praying. As it says in verse 8 above...
But if it were I, I would appeal to God; I would lay my cause before him
God calls us to lay our 'cause' before Him in prayer.
He always listens, always hears, always answers
Never disappoints...
For surely there is an end; and thine expectation shall not be cut off.
Proverbs 23:18
There is an end to the fight of this sin... gay marriage will never win.
I believe God.
8.....But if it were I, I would appeal to God;
I would lay my cause before him.
9 He performs wonders that cannot be fathomed,
miracles that cannot be counted.
10 He bestows rain on the earth;
he sends water upon the countryside.
11 The lowly he sets on high,
and those who mourn are lifted to safety.
12 He thwarts the plans of the crafty,
so that their hands achieve no success.
13 He catches the wise in their craftiness,
and the schemes of the wily are swept away.
14 Darkness comes upon them in the daytime;
at noon they grope as in the night.
15 He saves the needy from the sword in their mouth;
he saves them from the clutches of the powerful.
16 So the poor have hope,
and injustice shuts its mouth.
17“ Blessed is the man whom God corrects;
so do not despise the discipline of the Almighty.a
18 For he wounds, but he also binds up;
he injures, but his hands also heal.
19 From six calamities he will rescue you;
in seven no harm will befall you.
20 In famine he will ransom you from death,
and in battle from the stroke of the sword.
21 You will be protected from the lash of the tongue,
and need not fear when destruction comes.
22 You will laugh at destruction and famine,
and need not fear the beasts of the earth.
23 For you will have a covenant with the stones of the field,
and the wild animals will be at peace with you.
24 You will know that your tent is secure;
you will take stock of your property and find nothing missing.
25 You will know that your children will be many,
and your descendants like the grass of the earth.
26 You will come to the grave in full vigor,
like sheaves gathered in season.
27 “We have examined this, and it is true.
So hear it and apply it to yourself.”
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Yes my dear sister, Lady Belle. I am praying. As it says in verse 8 above...
But if it were I, I would appeal to God; I would lay my cause before him
God calls us to lay our 'cause' before Him in prayer.
He always listens, always hears, always answers
Never disappoints...
For surely there is an end; and thine expectation shall not be cut off.
Proverbs 23:18
There is an end to the fight of this sin... gay marriage will never win.
I believe God.
Belle Du Jour
Well-Known Member
Thank you Shimmie. I know that SCOTUS cannot truly redefine marriage because it was created by God and I'm praying with all my heart that they realize that. And you're right--gay "marriage" will never be blessed or legitimate. I agree that ultimately, if it is passed, it will lead to their downfall, but it will also affect the rest of us. Our children are already being raised to accept that lifestyle as a "normal" alternative.
Galadriel
Well-Known Member
I disagree. We are starting to see disturbing trends in the Western world where the legal system is being used to bully people who believe in and support marriage.
Just like the HHS mandate which can bankrupt churches for not complying with their contraception/abortion health provision, the government can easily mandate certain capitulations of churches. There is also currently a movement among some activists for the government to also revoke religious institutions' tax exempt status, etc.
In any case, I agree with OP that we need to support marriage with our prayers, donations to organizations that are like-minded, and through our votes.
Galadriel
Well-Known Member
THANK YOU, Momi!
I'm so tired of sodomite union supporters (sorry, can't use the term "gay marriage" anymore b/c it's a blatant oxymoron) dragging out the Establishment Clause in that manner. What the EC asserts is that the U.S. will not have a state church. A state church is one which is officially financially supported by the state, is given preference over any other religion present in the land, and is the official religion or church of the country.
In the U.S., we do not have a "Church of the United States of America." While we are culturally and demographically predominately Judeo-Christian, we have no state church installed.
The Establishment Clause does not mean we can't vote or petition our government about issue X simply because our view on X stems from or corresponds with our religious morals. If the religions of relativism and humanism can advocate for sodomite unions being recognized as marriage, then I can disagree and advocate that marriage not be redefined based on my worldview.
I'm so tired of sodomite union supporters (sorry, can't use the term "gay marriage" anymore b/c it's a blatant oxymoron) dragging out the Establishment Clause in that manner. What the EC asserts is that the U.S. will not have a state church. A state church is one which is officially financially supported by the state, is given preference over any other religion present in the land, and is the official religion or church of the country.
In the U.S., we do not have a "Church of the United States of America." While we are culturally and demographically predominately Judeo-Christian, we have no state church installed.
The Establishment Clause does not mean we can't vote or petition our government about issue X simply because our view on X stems from or corresponds with our religious morals. If the religions of relativism and humanism can advocate for sodomite unions being recognized as marriage, then I can disagree and advocate that marriage not be redefined based on my worldview.
Thank you!
Thank you Shimmie. I know that SCOTUS cannot truly redefine marriage because it was created by God and I'm praying with all my heart that they realize that. And you're right--gay "marriage" will never be blessed or legitimate. I agree that ultimately, if it is passed, it will lead to their downfall, but it will also affect the rest of us. Our children are already being raised to accept that lifestyle as a "normal" alternative.
Lady Belle... you echo my heart. Totally.
Already young school aged children have been 'sodmized' mentally and spiritually, by the gay agenda to accept homosexuality as a normal part of life. Yet if it were normal, why are they singling out little children without the consent of their parents?
This is the number one fail of theirs... the number one fail. For Jesus was clear that if any one harms even one of His little ones, it's better for a milstone to be tied about their necks and thrown into the sea. Their intentions are not for good, but for evil.
It's a spirit behind all of this, otherwise it would not be so global. The consequences are yet to unfold. I can literally see parents rising up against this agenda and the government, fighting for the lives, the health and the souls of their children.
People who now support the gay agenda, will rescind their support. They will not be happy watching their children taking on the gay lifestyle and acceptance of it. Many parents will be sick at heart who once thought support of it was okay. Yet, they will have deep remorse and regret. There will be the Truth which cannot be escaped from... the truth of the reality that this is not what they intended for their children to become a part of.
There is an innate nature in humans who do not wish to be subjected to such an offense upon their children. Mothers will not want their daughters to be in unnatural relationships; Men will not want their sons to among ones who switch and sway. It's 'nature', inborn in the hearts of men and women who know that this is not the life that they intended for their children and they will literally 'curse' the influence, the seducing spirits, the lies. They will storm the gates of the government rescinding every word/deed of support.
I sincerely pray that the supreme court will be sickened to their very core; the core of their being, the very core of their conscious, they shall not prevail in their endeavors.
I have not oughts against an indivual who says they are gay. My aim is against the spirit behind it. It shall lnot prevail, in Jesus' Name. Amen!
Galadriel.... you always bless me with your wisdom of God and vast knowledge of the the government / political system.
momi
Well-Known Member
Your explanation is much more clear than mine... yes I will be copying and pasting.
Shimmie - thank you for sharing Sis. Rosaria's story...it was beautiful.
Kinky4Agirl
Well-Known Member
I lovingly disagree...
Is it discrimination when a girl wants to be the kicker for the NFL? When a boy wants to be a girlscout? When a girl wants to play professional baseball or when a boy wants to be miss America? No? Same sentiment for the church. IF a church does not indulge in certain practices, refusal of these practices to individuals is not discrimination.
Kinky4Agirl
Well-Known Member
It is global because the world is burning in their loins for same sex relationships. It has been this way for a long time. This is why God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. It started that way and it is going to end that way Remember:::
Then all the men of the city surrounded Lot's house and said, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them." (Genesis 19:5, NIV) By ancient custom, the visitors were under Lot's protection. Lot was so infected by the wickedness of Sodom that he offered the homosexuals his two virgin daughters instead. Furious, the mob rushed up to break down the door.
Why on earth would men want another man instead of virgins???? This tells you how strong this urge is. And it will continue until the end.
MrsHaseeb
Well-Known Member
So much truth!
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Keep preaching, cause I'm listening....
..I'll add this: "Is it discrimination when a man is denied becoming pregnant or if a woman was to inseminate another woman?"
It's not going to happen.
What happening is that the gay agenda wants to silence the Church from speaking the truth. Their tactics and strategy are actually based on false accusations. No one is discriminating against them, especially to the 10th degree that is being presented as their case against 'us' (the Church) and others who disagree with gay marriage/the lifestyle, period.
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Your explanation is much more clear than mine... yes I will be copying and pasting.
Shimmie - thank you for sharing Sis. Rosaria's story...it was beautiful.
Thank you momi...
Sister Rosaria was honest and she spoke every thought and comment that has been spoken against the Church that gays and supporters speak now, and yet she still surrendered her heart totally to Jesus.
I loved when she said that calling herself gay was instead, 'mistaken identity'. That's exactly what homosexuality is... 'mistaken identity'.
momi
Well-Known Member
The bolded. Wow.
I agree momi....
Wow!
Talk about the Truth being posted... what awesome words of truth our sister is posting; and she's speaking from a heart of love. No hatred or bigotry lives in her heart. She's only posting the truth... vibrant truth, in love.
It's an invasive spirit that has captured the souls of those with same sex attractions. And so many of these souls were/are innocent victims who have been molested as children and have become sexually confused.
Here's another great organization. Mass Resistance. They are in Massachusetts and the information that they share is very extensive. I've been a subscriber to them and the others you listed above for quite some time. They keep you up to date with valuable information.
http://www.massresistance.org/
I ask God to continue to bless and prosper them as they forge ahead in protecting pure Marriage (between one man and one woman) preserving families and children.
Here's a Facebook page for the Coalition of African American Pastors. They've posted a question regarding the SCOTUS. I've been on their mailing list for a while and it's always informative.
It's interesting:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Coalition-of-African-American-Pastors/211149519011631
I read this from a post and wanted to share it...
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.’s Letter from a Birmingham Jail, Dr. King writes,
“A just law is a man-made code that squares with the moral law or the law of God. An unjust law is a code that is out of harmony with the moral law…
An unjust law is a human law that is not rooted in eternal law and natural law."
Reading this, grieves me regarding the Black men and women who claim to honour justice, yet they ignore these words of truth.
Redefining the true meaning of Marriage is an 'unjust law'. The catlyst behind foricing the change is 'unnatural', immoral. It is not justifiable.
:Rose: :Rose: :Rose:
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.’s Letter from a Birmingham Jail, Dr. King writes,
“A just law is a man-made code that squares with the moral law or the law of God. An unjust law is a code that is out of harmony with the moral law…
An unjust law is a human law that is not rooted in eternal law and natural law."
Reading this, grieves me regarding the Black men and women who claim to honour justice, yet they ignore these words of truth.
Redefining the true meaning of Marriage is an 'unjust law'. The catlyst behind foricing the change is 'unnatural', immoral. It is not justifiable.
:Rose: :Rose: :Rose:
This is a reality that I cannot ignore:
Black leaders who support gay marriage are so disturbing; it proves to me even more that Black leaders do not have the Black Community nor their Heritage and progress at heart.
I'm only telling the truth. Black leaders have made the gay rights agenda their primary focus and battle and have forsaken and abandoned the still hurting fractures of the Black family and the Black community.
Besides hurting the heart of God by further degrading Marriage, it is further degrading the Black community.
Is it not bad enough that for years, the Black community has suffered in broken family structures, "Daddy Babies'.... Baby Mama's; out of wedlock births with innocent children growing up in homes without the strength / normal balance of a mother and a father? Is this not grieving?
Redefining the true meaning of Marriage between One Man / One Woman, is further damage, a greater divide, a greater danger to the children who will see less of a real family structure.
Children live what they learn. Children have grown up seeing and being groomed to produce more homes / children without a married mother and father raising them.
gay unions, only further separates / alienates and weakens the Black community from progressing/ prospering into strong family unions. Two moms/Two dads are not a family structure of Black honour or power. It's a sliding board slanted backwards away from progress for the Black community to rise above those who have oppressed their legacy of greatness.
So why are Black leaders in the limelight not 'seeing' this? Why are they not empowering Black families? Why are Black populated schools / neighborhoods still lacking in structure? Why are more and more Black men still filling up the jails and being raped as ragdolls? They simply do not care. If they did, they'd be fighting harder to save Black families and the Heritage which has more rights than gay rights ever will.
Blacks in leadership say nothing about Black rights any longer; it's all about 'gay rights'. The NAACP has literally abandoned the purpose of it's inception.
Fools, such fools they are. Don't they see that they are empowering an agenda which cares nothing about them and that the very laws they are 'projecting' will be the very laws used to abuse and put them under. The ways of the laws will be, hire gays over all other minorities, and who will be the first to go? Blacks! Why? The Black leaders who betrayed their very own legacy and are being followed by Blacks who idolized them.
Unlike the Benedict Arnolds of Black leaders... I'm protecting my rights and those of my loved ones. I'm holding fast to the laws of God, obedience and as God has promised, those who yield unto Him shall be protected and shall prosper.
Psalm 1
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
4 The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.
5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.
6 For the Lord knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
:Rose: :Rose: :Rose:
John 15:7
If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
:Rose: :Rose: :Rose:
Black leaders are no longer 'abiding' in God's Word...
Black leaders who support gay marriage are so disturbing; it proves to me even more that Black leaders do not have the Black Community nor their Heritage and progress at heart.
I'm only telling the truth. Black leaders have made the gay rights agenda their primary focus and battle and have forsaken and abandoned the still hurting fractures of the Black family and the Black community.
Besides hurting the heart of God by further degrading Marriage, it is further degrading the Black community.
Is it not bad enough that for years, the Black community has suffered in broken family structures, "Daddy Babies'.... Baby Mama's; out of wedlock births with innocent children growing up in homes without the strength / normal balance of a mother and a father? Is this not grieving?
Redefining the true meaning of Marriage between One Man / One Woman, is further damage, a greater divide, a greater danger to the children who will see less of a real family structure.
Children live what they learn. Children have grown up seeing and being groomed to produce more homes / children without a married mother and father raising them.
gay unions, only further separates / alienates and weakens the Black community from progressing/ prospering into strong family unions. Two moms/Two dads are not a family structure of Black honour or power. It's a sliding board slanted backwards away from progress for the Black community to rise above those who have oppressed their legacy of greatness.
So why are Black leaders in the limelight not 'seeing' this? Why are they not empowering Black families? Why are Black populated schools / neighborhoods still lacking in structure? Why are more and more Black men still filling up the jails and being raped as ragdolls? They simply do not care.
If they did, they'd be fighting harder to save Black families and the Heritage which has more rights than gay rights ever will. Blacks in leadership say nothing about Black rights any longer; it's all about 'gay rights'. The NAACP has literally abandoned the purpose of it's inception.
Fools, such fools they are. Don't they see that they are empowering an agenda which cares nothing about them and that the very laws they are 'projecting' will be the very laws used to abuse and put them under. The ways of the laws will be, hire gays over all other minorities, and who will be the first to go? Blacks! Why? The Black leaders who betrayed their very own legacy and are being followed by Blacks who idolized them.
Unlike the Benedict Arnolds of Black leaders... I'm protecting my rights and those of my loved ones. I'm holding fast to the laws of God, obedience and as God has promised, those who yield unto Him shall be protected and shall prosper.
Psalm 1
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
4 The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.
5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.
6 For the Lord knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
:Rose: :Rose: :Rose:
John 15:7
If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
:Rose: :Rose: :Rose:
Black leaders are no longer 'abiding' in God's Word...
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Here is a 'Brief' from the SSRN "Social Social Research Network"
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2210568
If you are able, please download the entire 54 page Paper. It's an excellent read to the Supreme Court of the United States, defending Marriage between One Man, One Woman.
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2210568
If you are able, please download the entire 54 page Paper. It's an excellent read to the Supreme Court of the United States, defending Marriage between One Man, One Woman.
Kinky4Agirl
Well-Known Member
I agree @momi....
Wow!
Talk about the Truth being posted... what awesome words of truth our sister is posting; and she's speaking from a heart of love. No hatred or bigotry lives in her heart. She's only posting the truth... vibrant truth, in love.
It's an invasive spirit that has captured the souls of those with same sex attractions. And so many of these souls were/are innocent victims who have been molested as children and have become sexually confused.
Shimmie, The truth shall set you free. You are spot on girlfriend. I gringe when gay and lesbians say they were born that way. It saddens me because it makes me feel that they were tramautized at such as early age that they don't even remember. They may not remember but their spirit does. Thus, creating a sexually confused individual like you said. God would never create an abomination. So I know without a doubt that no one is born gay. I pray for them as I also pray for myself. I can speak on this because I too was abused as a child and sometimes feel that abomination trying to seep in. But I resist. The devil is working ladies. The end times are near and he is working overtime to get as many of us as he can. If there is anyone reading this that can relate to what I am saying... please resist. The fight is almost over.. God will see you through..
All this coming from someone that has a post of dispair right now on lhcf. God sure is awesome. You all pray for me as I pray for you and salvation.
LucieLoo12
Well-Known Member
If our church leaders would stand up and preach the truth it wouldn't be so much confusion going on. But it confuses the world when they see gay marriage condoned in the church. So many people are scared to say "Homosexuality is wrong" because they are afraid to "offend" people...well God is offended everyday when we don't speak against it. I expect the people in the world to go with this, but the church is what makes me upset when they don't stand against it. When you hear "Christians" say it's ok , that is what breaks my heart. It's not the President's job or any political organization job nor responsibilty to teach the people about the standards and laws of God, but it's the churches job.
, that is what breaks my heart. It's not the President's job or any political organization job nor responsibilty to teach the people about the standards and laws of God, but it's the churches job.
MrsHaseeb
Well-Known Member
This right here. Most of political activists are not men of God and have no spiritual authority to fight the sodomite agenda. You can't be a man of God and be in covenant with the devil. They are powerless to fight this. It must start with the church telling the truth despite the consequences. That's what we need now more than ever. This is spiritual, and until these political leaders are full of the Holy Ghost they can only make things worse.
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MrsHaseeb
Well-Known Member
Maybe I'm crazy, but I can't use the words "gay" and "same sex"... Its a play on words and its meant to cover up what it is and make it more palatable. I just call it what it is, which is an abomination to God. That was just a random thought.
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Kinky4Agirl
Well-Known Member
Ya'll are sho preachin today. I tell you, this gives new meaning to the scripture... Matthew 16, 24-26.
24Then said Jesus to his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. 25For whoever will save his life shall lose it: and whoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. 26For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul.
So you see.. how can the church come out and fight for what's right when they have so much of the world to lose in return? Are they thinking about their soul? Or are they thinking about their pockets, prestige, image, pride, politics? If man denies himself all these things and follows the truth they( the church) would lose their life as they know it today. No more limelight or riches. Yet they would find everlasting life through Christ Jesus. But they (people in the church) are not willing to fight for what's right. Instead they would rather keep their mouths shut and keep their worldly goods and prestige. I believe the church knows it's wrong.. but they'd rather be scorned by God than by man. And that's a sad thing my friends. The devil is surely working.
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