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[NefertariBlu]

It may not be the right shampoo for you either. It can be natural but it doesn't mean that your hair will like it.

Most ladies will probably tell you it took them a while to find the right shampoo.

Looks like it's time for you to shop for some new products.

Now why did you go tell me that? I am already a product junkie

I have already bought 2 more shampoos just yesterday. Will see how those work. You are right the conditioner l was using does have mineral oil. Hmm maybe that was the issue. I am trying to stick with natural products so its all about experimenting. LOC works for me which is a plus.

 

[HanaKuroi]

Well there ya go @faithVA. I would try it too--for free! But I aint payin that much for glorified, whipped grease. I can melt it and whisk in shea butter myself at home and cost me less than $5.

I'm a cheap heaux if you can't tell by now I likes muh grease (only on the very ends, never scalp)--I know it flies against everything LHCF and it's practically free.

There is a version that is basically identical to MJ at Walgreens. It's under $12. I can't remember who makes it. Someone somewhere compared them. I have a jar in a rubbermaid container somewhere.

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[faithVA]

NefertariBlu[/USER];18173731]Now why did you go tell me that? I am already a product junkie

I have already bought 2 more shampoos just yesterday. Will see how those work. You are right the conditioner l was using does have mineral oil. Hmm maybe that was the issue. I am trying to stick with natural products so its all about experimenting. LOC works for me which is a plus.

Which shampoos did you buy?

Just used the board before you purchase. People on the board usually give good feedback on products or there is already a thread on a product.

 

[greenandchic]

Now why did you go tell me that? I am already a product junkie

I have already bought 2 more shampoos just yesterday. Will see how those work. You are right the conditioner l was using does have mineral oil. Hmm maybe that was the issue. I am trying to stick with natural products so its all about experimenting. LOC works for me which is a plus.

Where did you buy them? Maybe you can return them if its a no go.

 

[HanaKuroi]

I remember all of the damage I had from the tangle teaser and the denman. My hair would stick out of braids like tree branches. That hair has grown out so much thanks to finger combing. I was in a state of DENIAL. I loved the clumps and the smoothness and the sound that tangle teaser and denman made. I can see where the line of breakage was. I thought I had heat damage. The longer ends were the hair that made it. My fine hair couldn't take it.

I am excited because I can see the change in my hair. I am not afraid to look at the bottom of the shower.

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[DarkJoy]

Another experiment tonight. It's wash day.

First was SM PM. Then was a quick scrub with V05 clarifying condish. Now I'm sitting with AO BC on...wonder if I should finish with 2min of another V05 that has panthenol. Only because this has been a lotta condish. She really likes the panthenol protein.

I've learned FINALLY that, though I love the feel of soft cottony hair, soft cottony-hair signals moisture overload and breakage for me.

Also coming to the conclusion that I might have slightly porous hair. It doesn't take long--just a few times--to have me protein overloaded or moisture overloaded.

Makes me think I might be better off with a reconstructor than a hard protein treatment...can't decide!

 

[HanaKuroi]

Another experiment tonight. It's wash day.

First was SM PM. Then was a quick scrub with V05 clarifying condish. Now I'm sitting with AO BC on...wonder if I should finish with 2min of another V05 that has panthenol. Only because this has been a lotta condish. She really likes the panthenol protein.

I've learned FINALLY that, though I love the feel of soft cottony hair, soft cottony-hair signals moisture overload and breakage for me.

Also coming to the conclusion that I might have slightly porous hair. It doesn't take long--just a few times--to have me protein overloaded or moisture overloaded.

Makes me think I might be better off with a reconstructor than a hard protein treatment...can't decide!

I am afraid of hard protein. Too many rules. Let it dry but don't manipulate the hair. Gentle rinsing etc. Plus I have allergies and eczema. Maybe you can test a section first and see how your hair reacts.

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[greenandchic]

Did my first WnG in ages - hope I won't pay later given my MBH hair shrunk up to my nape! Even the small patch of 3b I have in the back is curled up on itself.

Side view

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DarkJoy - I learned the hard way - play it safe and use an reconstructor or gentle protein. I can always use more later.

 

[HanaKuroi]

Did my first WnG in ages - hope I won't pay later given my MBH hair shrunk up to my nape! Even the small patch of 3b I have in the back is curled up on itself.

Side view

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DarkJoy - I learned the hard way - play it safe and use an reconstructor or gentle protein. I can always use more later.

Pretty hair!

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[DarkJoy]

The V05 aint hard protein. I used the one with panthenol all last week as a co-wash. The panthenol is like the 5th to last on the list. When I hit the bss this weekend, I'm hoping to find hard condish samples to test...

I have eczema too. How was your winter? I had horrible flares all winter. Hadnt ben this bad in years!! It was an itchy scabby mess at one point about 6 weeks ago and that was on top of the allergic reactions to products and synthetic hair I'd had.

 

[faithVA]

Nice texture greenandchic

HanaKuroi, I agree with greenandchic about the protein. Unless you have done something damaging to your hair try the reconstructor.

 

[DarkJoy]

I will listen to you ladies! You haven't led me wrong yet! Reconstructor it is.

Lovely hair greenandchic!!!!

 

[HanaKuroi]

Nice texture greenandchic

HanaKuroi, I agree with greenandchic about the protein. Unless you have done something damaging to your hair try the reconstructor.

No, I am not going to use heavy protein. It seems scary. I am a believer in testing stuff out on a section of hair though. I need to start testing on a section of my scalp too.

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[greenandchic]

Pretty hair!

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Nice texture greenandchic

HanaKuroi, I agree with greenandchic about the protein. Unless you have done something damaging to your hair try the reconstructor.

I will listen to you ladies! You haven't led me wrong yet! Reconstructor it is.

Lovely hair greenandchic!!!!

Awwww, thanks ladies!

 

[HanaKuroi]

Here is what seems to be a natural alternative to MJ products. They are around $12

http://m.houseofbeautyworld.com/iiisiofnahac.html?more=true

Here is the MJ dupe found at Walgreens. $4







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[NefertariBlu]

faithVA l have 2 sheamoisture shampoos. The baby head to toe wash and l got one free, the retention shampoo.
I use MJ styles only bc l got a sample from my friend. She knew l was having issues with styling so she gave me a bunch of styling products. MJ worked the best for me. It held my hair pretty well and had little to no frizz. I have 4c hair so l need products that reduce frizz and poofing. It works well for me in the winter, as l know the buttercreme contains glycerine.

 

[faithVA]

Here is what seems to be a natural alternative to MJ products. They are around $12

http://m.houseofbeautyworld.com/iiisiofnahac.html?more=true

Here is the MJ dupe found at Walgreens. $4



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I can't see any mentions on my IPhone. PM me if it is a must see. Allons y

Sorry HanaKuroi, thread moving so fast I'm getting my folks mixed up. Intended the protein post for DarkJoy

Thanks for the heads up about the natural MJ alternatives. Maybe I will try them in the future.

 

[faithVA]

faithVA l have 2 sheamoisture shampoos. The baby head to toe wash and l got one free, the retention shampoo.
I use MJ styles only bc l got a sample from my friend. She knew l was having issues with styling so she gave me a bunch of styling products. MJ worked the best for me. It held my hair pretty well and had little to no frizz. I have 4c hair so l need products that reduce frizz and poofing. It works well for me in the winter, as l know the buttercreme contains glycerine.

I definitely know about frizzy and poofy hair.

Use what you have and learn from it. Pay attention to the ingredients and consistencies so you can start determining what to try and what to leave on the shelf.

 

[JJamiah]

@faithVA l have 2 sheamoisture shampoos. The baby head to toe wash and l got one free, the retention shampoo.
I use MJ styles only bc l got a sample from my friend. She knew l was having issues with styling so she gave me a bunch of styling products. MJ worked the best for me. It held my hair pretty well and had little to no frizz. I have 4c hair so l need products that reduce frizz and poofing. It works well for me in the winter, as l know the buttercreme contains glycerine.

I love Miss Jessies products, they work well for my hair when I do use them.

Matter fact tomorrow, after Swim Class, I am going to clarify my hair and deep condition with MJ's SweetBack Treatment and then do a wash and go with her baby butter/curly pudding mix. I sure am.

 

[NefertariBlu]

It may not be the right shampoo for you either. It can be natural but it doesn't mean that your hair will like it.

Most ladies will probably tell you it took them a while to find the right shampoo.

Looks like it's time for you to shop for some new products.

Sorry HanaKuroi, thread moving so fast I'm getting my folks mixed up. Intended the protein post for DarkJoy

Thanks for the heads up about the natural MJ alternatives. Maybe I will try them in the future.

I had a sample of the curling gelo. Nope. Didn't work lol. Maybe it the mixture of the crap ingredients in MJ that works well together. I have tried a few of their products and did not like them.

 

[hnntrr]

BC 3 day update: ( and again thank you guys for bearing with me).

I Cowashed tonight with AO WC to prepare for my twist installation tomorrow and there is totally a difference between my new ng and ends of the bc'd hair. As i have been keeping it moisturized since sunday I have noticed the curls starting to spiral closer to my head especially on the parts that arent laid flat by my scarf (like the sides and top of my head)...about 3/4 an inch to an inch if i stretch them so I think 2, 2 1/2 months of hair were not as severely damaged as the ends...which leads me to think that when i flat ironed the 1st of the year without heat protectant and oil i got some heat damage and then flat ironing those same places causes more problem. Thankfully I can say I can feel more coils forming the more days go by!

So even though I have some heat damaged ends I am going to leave them so I have enough to install braids...baby them and eventually cut off the heat damaged hair.

Hoping psingfor the next year will bring some progress!

 

[faithVA]

BC 3 day update: ( and again thank you guys for bearing with me).

I Cowashed tonight with AO WC to prepare for my twist installation tomorrow and there is totally a difference between my new ng and ends of the bc'd hair. As i have been keeping it moisturized since sunday I have noticed the curls starting to spiral closer to my head especially on the parts that arent laid flat by my scarf (like the sides and top of my head)...about 3/4 an inch to an inch if i stretch them so I think 2, 2 1/2 months of hair were not as severely damaged as the ends...which leads me to think that when i flat ironed the 1st of the year without heat protectant and oil i got some heat damage and then flat ironing those same places causes more problem. Thankfully I can say I can feel more coils forming the more days go by!

So even though I have some heat damaged ends I am going to leave them so I have enough to install braids...baby them and eventually cut off the heat damaged hair.

Hoping psingfor the next year will bring some progress!

Sounds like a good plan.

 

[greenandchic]

Grrrr, post 1st day WnG my hair was soooo tangled. It took ages to get though it after spraying it with water to twist it up. I guess I won't be doing any WnGs for a while, LOL!

 

[HanaKuroi]

Grrrr, post 1st day WnG my hair was soooo tangled. It took ages to get though it after spraying it with water to twist it up. I guess I won't be doing any WnGs for a while, LOL!

I am telling you. They should call them wash and nooooooooooooo's. That is what I said after I wore one. Nooooooooooooooooo! My hair is all tangled! Nooooooo! Look at these ssks! Noooooooooooo. *cry*

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[greenandchic]

I am telling you. They should call them wash and nooooooooooooo's. That is what I said after I wore one. Nooooooooooooooooo! My hair is all tangled! Nooooooo! Look at these ssks! Noooooooooooo. *cry*

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Right?? It was fun while it lasted.

 

[faithVA]

So I decided to try the semi-permanent color again instead of the permanent. I picked up Dark & Lovely Reviving Colors Ebone Brown. I washed with the 4 naturals shampoo and am sitting with the color on under my heat cap. I just can't bring myself to sit under a dryer

So hopefully it won't wash off like it usually does.

 

[faithVA]

^^ It didn't completely wash off but it didn't cover my grays well either. So I have about 2 washes before I'm gray again. That's too much work for 2 weeks. It is a nice color though. Too bad it won't last.

 

[DarkJoy]

Oh dear. Sorry faithVA. :/ Them greys are tough puppies to cover, no doubt!

 

[faithVA]

Oh dear. Sorry @faithVA. :/ Them greys are tough puppies to cover, no doubt!

Yeah. I tried to give it another chance before going back to permanent. Thought maybe I did it wrong. I was thinking maybe I could use the semi and then just do permanent 2x a year. I tried.

The box says 100% gray coverage

 

[DarkJoy]

Yea, I tried semi perm and had the same results--barely covered greys! And then all the damage to boot.

How long do you have to wait til you permanent color?