Struggling with your natural hair? Come in here.....

Cruzankink said:


STRUGGLES: Bushy ends. I have tried everything except trimming to get my ends under control. The last time I trimmed all of my bushy ends w/in a month my ends became bushy again. Any help ladies?
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I am no expert, but it is possible that your bushy ends are recurring because you have mid-shaft splits. So when you trim, it didn't get the whole split, so you it reoccurs quickly. I am hoping that I am wrong though.

I have had and have this issue. I thought I just had bushy ends and trimmed and trimmed and they just never went away. I found that the split was higher than I was trimming so I never got it and it continued to spread. I am currently doing protein treatments to prevent the splits from spreading until I can trim them off.
 
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cami88;18008441[/USER]]The one thing I hate about my hair aside from ssks are how thin and sad my ends are. How does one maintain thick and healthy ends? I am trimming them off little by little....
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If you have curly hair you have to walk on water with your hair :lol:

I think you have to walk a fine line which would be DCing, doing protein treatments, keeping your ends moisturized and sealed at least every other day, being very gentle with your ends with detangling and very low manipulation. The longer you can go without manipulating your ends the better.
 
I'm currently 2yrs into my transition w/o the BC. I did do a "mini" chop this past Christmas eve. Ever since then I've been at a lost, for styling my hair. I still have some permed strands so my wash n go's are still struggling. I want/need to go and get my hair done professionally, I'm just looking for the right person/shop.

I'm going to read this entire thread, I'll be back with questions.....

*subscribing*
 
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@A856...Good morning my sister! Did you say you had done a big chop? Did I read that right? You still have a few permed strands. If you are going completely natural and need your curl pattern, a Terressentials mud wash detox might work. If you can not afford the Terressentials, you could use bentionite clay with ACV with the detox instructions from terressentials. Perhaps others will chime in. I do not have the longest hair in the land. YET. The mudwash detox gave me my natural ringlets back, The website talks about the plastics and other poor product choices that are still coating our hair. They have a lot of good information. www.terressentials.com:drunk:
 
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Kindheart said:
@Cruzankink are you using products with glycerin on your ends>?
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Kindheart I am using products w/ glycerin. After my weekly CW, I use Giovanni DLI where glycerin is 6/25 ingredients. For everyday moisture, I use SM CES where glycerin is 6/16 ingredients. Since I've been natural, I've never had any known issues w/ glycerin. I didn't think it could be the culprit of my bushy ends. I know that glycerin contributes to frizz for my curly haired sistas. But I have kinky and not curly hair so shrinkage and not frizz is an issue for me. I understood that if you live in a hot humid climate like me a product w/ glycerin actually benefits hair since it attracts water to moisturize hair. I guess what I'm saying is I don't want glycerin to be the cause of my bushy ends... In everything else, glycerin products work for me.
 
faithVA said:
I am no expert, but it is possible that your bushy ends are recurring because you have mid-shaft splits. So when you trim, it didn't get the whole split, so you it reoccurs quickly. I am hoping that I am wrong though.

I have had and have this issue. I thought I just had bushy ends and trimmed and trimmed and they just never went away. I found that the split was higher than I was trimming so I never got it and it continued to spread. I am currently doing protein treatments to prevent the splits from spreading until I can trim them off.
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faithVA I've had damaged ends before and my current ends don't show the brittleness and breakage as my damaged ends did. But I must admit, I haven't thought more about damage/spilts b/c I thought I cut them off back in Aug 2012 and my scheduled trims keep whatever splits at bay. Also I haven't been using products, tools, or styles that would encourage damage hair or seen any breakage that indicates damage. Next wash day I will look more closely since you indicated that it might be mid shaft splits and not split-ends.
 
Cruzankink said:
faithVA I've had damaged ends before and my current ends don't show the brittleness and breakage as my damaged ends did. But I must admit, I haven't thought more about damage/spilts b/c I thought I cut them off back in Aug 2012 and my scheduled trims keep whatever splits at bay. Also I haven't been using products, tools, or styles that would encourage damage hair or seen any breakage that indicates damage. Next wash day I will look more closely since you indicated that it might be mid shaft splits and not split-ends.
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You could very well be right. Won't hurt to check.

If you aren't seeing any signs, then maybe it is just a technique issue.
 
I agree sounds like they may be splitting Cruzankink? Have you pulled a couple random hairs and looked to see if there were splits? Also, are the ends really dry as well?
 
^^Can you see mid-shaft splits on natural hair easily? I have seen them on relaxed hair. I can't see them on my own hair. I just know based on my analysis what to look for.

But unlike Cruzankink, I have actually signs. Since she isn't seeing any signs maybe it's something else.
 
felic1 said:
@A856...Good morning my sister! Did you say you had done a big chop? Did I read that right? You still have a few permed strands. If you are going completely natural and need your curl pattern, a Terressentials mud wash detox might work. If you can not afford the Terressentials, you could use bentionite clay with ACV with the detox instructions from terressentials. Perhaps others will chime in. I do not have the longest hair in the land. YET. The mudwash detox gave me my natural ringlets back, The website talks about the plastics and other poor product choices that are still coating our hair. They have a lot of good information. www.terressentials.com:drunk:
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Morning! I need to go back & edit my post. I did a mini chop,I had washed my hair and was putting it in a ponytail...saw the scraggly ends and cut. So no my hair isn't completely natural all over, but I'm working on it.
Thanks for the info on the clay product, I've seen it mentioned here before, now I'm going to do more research!
 
faithVA said:
^^Can you see mid-shaft splits on natural hair easily? I have seen them on relaxed hair. I can't see them on my own hair. I just know based on my analysis what to look for.

But unlike Cruzankink, I have actually signs. Since she isn't seeing any signs maybe it's something else.
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I can see them on my hair pretty good @faithVA. Since my hair is too short to just pull in front of eyes to see, every now and then I'll pluck a few from random spots and have a good look. I could clearly see mid-shaft splits when I had them *knocks wood* and my hair is pretty fine stranded.
 
DarkJoy said:
I agree sounds like they may be splitting @Cruzankink? Have you pulled a couple random hairs and looked to see if there were splits? Also, are the ends really dry as well?
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faithVA said:
^^Can you see mid-shaft splits on natural hair easily? I have seen them on relaxed hair. I can't see them on my own hair. I just know based on my analysis what to look for.

But unlike Cruzankink, I have actually signs. Since she isn't seeing any signs maybe it's something else.
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@faithVA and @DarkJoy Maybe in the last 5-6 mos I've been living in blissful ignorance. I haven't pull any hairs or check my shed hairs to see if its splitting b/c I don't think I'm doing anything to make them split. And yes, my ends are dry but not what it was when I knew it was damaged. However, now that you both mentioned splits, I'm officially worried. Like faithVA, I have never seen mid-shaft splits or split ends in my natural hair only when my hair was relaxed. I have seen break points in my natural hair (they look slightly opaque and when i pull my hair break off). However, I haven't seen these since my hair was heat damaged. I going to start a full investigation. I'll keep you posted.
 
I don't know what to do. My hair feels good. I haven't done anything to it other than m/s in over a week.

We were in FL and my hair still feels supple and springy.

I did a mudwash before I left. It really helps everything adhere and absorb/adsorb better.

Do I leave well enough alone and wait until the weekend? I feel I should be doing something.

I can't see any mentions on my IPhone. PM me if it is a must see. Allons y
 
Let me make a note to Cruzankink and faithVA--come to think of it, the only time I've been able to see mid shaft splits is on dry stretched hair. I NEVER noticed it when it's in its coily state... interesting!
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Update: Still some breakage today but not as bad. I am going on full CG to re-moisturize--that KCCC dried it the hell out. It feels pretty obvious now since it's sulfated out. I went bought her all time faves this morn to heal her: SM PM, V05 condish's (.89c!!!), and will head out today for her fave DC since I'm clean out of AO BC.

Going on learning from past mistakes, I will NOT reinstall crochet braids until she's back up to par. All that ever did in my pre-LHCF days was make it all worse and breakage so bad it thinned it out. I'll alternate between kinky wigs and phoney buns.

Seems like my hair mostly enjoys things from my kitchen and grease to style (flax seed gel and mixed butters). Oh well, I'd hoped to make my life easier, but she aint having it. Picky b----!!
 
I just came back home to Alaska Saturday and the temperature and climate are harsh right now. Should I be proactive? Or wait until my hair starts behaving badly?


Lol Cruzankink and faithVA

I can't see any mentions on my IPhone. PM me if it is a must see. Allons y
 
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[USER=324511 said:
HanaKuroi[/USER];18010603]I just came back home to Alaska Saturday and the temperature and climate are harsh right now. Should I be proactive? Or wait until my hair starts behaving badly?


Lol Cruzankink and faithVA

I can't see any mentions on my IPhone. PM me if it is a must see. Allons y
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When you say proactive what are you thinking of?

I guess Thursday you can do a moisturizing treatment and then start heavy sealing. The friday wrap it up or put it up as best you can and keep it covered.
 
My hair will start drying out from my dry house and cold dry air outside. Should I wait or dc or cowash? This hydrated skin and hair won't last much longer. I feel like Keenan Ivory Wayans in Hollywood Shuffle.

I can't see any mentions on my IPhone. PM me if it is a must see. Allons y
 
I would suggest to do what you did for supple hair in Alaskan climate. My natural hair has not experienced cold weather for more than a week so I don't know what to tell you. I know many people complain about humidity but in the tropics my hair has been doing well.
 
faithVA said:
When you say proactive what are you thinking of?

I guess Thursday you can do a moisturizing treatment and then start heavy sealing. The friday wrap it up or put it up as best you can and keep it covered.
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I mean dc and moisture with a heavy sealer. I don't want to over moisturize either.

I didn't realize how harsh it is up here. I want to hold onto and try and keep everything in balance if possible.

I can't see any mentions on my IPhone. PM me if it is a must see. Allons y
 
When I lived in Michigan I got a humidifier for the winter months since the air was so dry the skin in my nose would crack then bleed. If it did that to my skin it was worse on my hair. Maybe you should invest in one.
 
faithVA said:
So y'all have me sitting here trying to pull out shed hairs to see if I can see a mid-shaft split.
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:lachen: Dont wanna make you paranoid faith! But then again, I don't bother waiting for shed--I pluck that sucker to see the bulb too! :look:

HanaKuroi said:
I mean dc and moisture with a heavy sealer. I don't want to over moisturize either.

I didn't realize how harsh it is up here. I want to hold onto and try and keep everything in balance if possible.
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I understand HanaKuroi--Where I live it's dry YEAR ROUND which probably accounts for most of my hair problems.Don't wait until it's dry and crunchy but dont go HAM worrying about losing the moisture either. Maybe just start with your regular climate reggi next wash day and heavy seal that sucker. Cruz has a great idea about the humdifier! Lemme go pull mines out. :lol:
 
OK I'm tired of trying to fight this battle on my own; I need help:

Hair profile? E.g 4B, really fine strands, density..
Mostly 4A I guess; medium to fine strands; normal density; coarse strands; growing out permanent color. last 3" are colored.

Reggie and products? E.g wash and DC weekly with X, Y, and Z products
Cowash almost daily with tresemme naturals, Giovanni conditioners, V05conditioners.
Haven't been DCing regularly but when I do I use Giovanni SAS. Will be ordering another steamer soon.
Leave in conditioner/ moisturizer: KCCC. recently purchased UFD Good Hair. various oils to seal.
How do you style your hair? E.g I wear it out, or bun etc
WnG 100% of the time

What problems do you have with your hair?
Hair doesn't retain any moisture. I've tried LOC, LCO, LC, LO :drunk: my ends are especially dry. I have SSKs but no breakage that I've noticed.

my wet texture is completely different from my dry texture. I believe if I were to ever achieve optimum moisture levels I'd see my "real" texture
 
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[USER=324511 said:
HanaKuroi[/USER];18010683]I mean dc and moisture with a heavy sealer. I don't want to over moisturize either.

I didn't realize how harsh it is up here. I want to hold onto and try and keep everything in balance if possible.

I can't see any mentions on my IPhone. PM me if it is a must see. Allons y
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Yes, I think it is a good idea. Get as much moisture into your hair as you can and then seal it. Then cover your hair as much as possible.

I also agree with the humidifier.
 
DarkJoy said:
:lachen: Dont wanna make you paranoid faith! But then again, I don't bother waiting for shed--I pluck that sucker to see the bulb too! :look:


I understand HanaKuroi--Where I live it's dry YEAR ROUND which probably accounts for most of my hair problems.Don't wait until it's dry and crunchy but dont go HAM worrying about losing the moisture either. Maybe just start with your regular climate reggi next wash day and heavy seal that sucker. Cruz has a great idea about the humdifier! Lemme go pull mines out. :lol:
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Girl I'm not plucking anything out my head :ouch: I may find a bushy one and cut it though.
 
APrayer4Hair said:
OK I'm tired of trying to fight this battle on my own; I need help:

Hair profile? E.g 4B, really fine strands, density..
Mostly 4A I guess; medium to fine strands; normal density; coarse strands; growing out permanent color. last 3" are colored.

Reggie and products? E.g wash and DC weekly with X, Y, and Z products
Cowash almost daily with tresemme naturals, Giovanni conditioners, V05conditioners.
Haven't been DCing regularly but when I do I use Giovanni SAS. Will be ordering another steamer soon.
Leave in conditioner/ moisturizer: KCCC. recently purchased UFD Good Hair. various oils to seal.
How do you style your hair? E.g I wear it out, or bun etc
WnG 100% of the time

What problems do you have with your hair?
Hair doesn't retain any moisture. I've tried LOC, LCO, LC, LO :drunk: my ends are especially dry. I have SSKs but no breakage that I've noticed.
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I say protein. Not the heavy kind. Giovanni's the one without the cone in it, or millcreek botanicals or ion.

Wait a minute. What do you moisturize and seal with?

You need to dc with a dc not a regular conditioner. I am too tired to find the link but Dc's are made differently from regular conditioners.

As far as the protein conditioners go, do you ever use them?

I can't see any mentions on my IPhone. PM me if it is a must see. Allons y
 
[USER=346925 said:
APrayer4Hair[/USER];18011941]OK I'm tired of trying to fight this battle on my own; I need help:

Hair profile? E.g 4B, really fine strands, density..
Mostly 4A I guess; medium to fine strands; normal density; coarse strands; growing out permanent color. last 3" are colored.

Reggie and products? E.g wash and DC weekly with X, Y, and Z products
Cowash almost daily with tresemme naturals, Giovanni conditioners, V05conditioners.
Haven't been DCing regularly but when I do I use Giovanni SAS. Will be ordering another steamer soon.
Leave in conditioner/ moisturizer: KCCC. recently purchased UFD Good Hair. various oils to seal.
How do you style your hair? E.g I wear it out, or bun etc
WnG 100% of the time

What problems do you have with your hair?
Hair doesn't retain any moisture. I've tried LOC, LCO, LC, LO :drunk: my ends are especially dry. I have SSKs but no breakage that I've noticed.
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Are you low porosity?
How often do you clarify?
How often do you do a protein treatment?

And as nice as Giovanni SAS is, I don't believe it is a deep conditioner. It is more of a daily rinse out conditioner.
 
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