Sexy Christians??

[LucieLoo12]

Ok to YOU, they are not vulgar. Like Health and Hair said its the point that they associated this with the Church..I see styles like this allll day long but when you stamp Churchgirl on it, that changes the messages.

And personally, someone who goes to Church does not make them a automatic Christian. Just like if you stand in a garage, it dont make you a car...

Pants are designed to attract??

Now I agree people wear make up to attract, and i dont agree with that either..I didnt say I dont agree with make up, Im saying when people wear it to allure men..thats different *dodging stones**

But people can use anything to "attract" someone..i mean anything.but the point that is being made to associate this clothing with the Christian woman.

And we are not talking about culture at this time, we are talking about Christianity...thus, this is this why in the Chrisitian forum...

Oh, you mean cleavage? I see that much cleavage every day, in a variety of places. I don't know if that is a dress or shorts...looked like shorts to me, tho. If it had said "christian," same difference? Nobody refers to their religious edifices as churches but christians.

Per the bolded....BINGO!!!!! Tha's all I'm saying...they are not vulgar. But answer me this...is Maybelline/MAC, hair adornments, red bottom stilettoes, decorative scarves, decorative outwear (other than non-descript solid dark colors), PANTS...who doesn't wear pants here?...perfume, nail polish, decorative purses....all designed to attract.....wrong??? Few, I bet who don't wear this attire/beauty conscious products. Now, in the old days, many women and men thought that was sinful. Is it? Showing butt cheeks and sexually graphic designs etc...I'd agree they would be inappropriate. But modesty is relative to the culture.

 

[LoveisYou]

I think every church would benefit from giving a seminar on how to dress like a woman of God, the seminar should include pictures of appropriate clothing. For the women who always complain that they don't want to look frumpy, there is a difference between looking like a frump and looking like a woman of the night. You can be fashionable and elegant....2 of the ultimate fashion icons (Jackie O. and Audrey Hepburn) epitomized feminine style and elegance.....take a page out of their book.

I have been guilty of the above, but thank God for Jesus.

 

[LucieLoo12]

I agree that we dont walk around in potato sack, but can I can honestly say when i go into the store and pick out something, the last thing on my mind is attracting someone with this. I may get it because I think the design is nice/cute or because its on sale , but I dont go in there with agenda to be "fine" or show my shape..my style of dress is pretty simple...I dont dress with the agenda to "shine" or get lookers....but thats just me..im just saying

Well, that's what I'm saying...all this making selves up and whatnot...sexy or presentable in a feminine way? Same thing! It's meant to attract - otherwise, folks would go through life in a potato sack. Where do we draw the line? Is a tank tee sinful? Is one inch of cleavage sinful? Jewelry? The H-ly Spirit (HS???) operating in you might not look the same as that of another person. There's definitely a congruent factor in what it is to be a christian but potato sack is not it.

 

[LucieLoo12]

Yes! You can look nice and be modest.

The scary thing is, its so many defintions of what modest is


Ive been guilty too, but when God changes you, He allows you to see how it really looks

I think every church would benefit from giving a seminar on how to dress like a woman of God, the seminar should include pictures of appropriate clothing. For the women who always complain that they don't want to look frumpy, there is a difference between looking like a frump and looking like a woman of the night. You can be fashionable and elegant....2 of the ultimate fashion icons (Jackie O. and Audrey Hepburn) epitomized feminine style and elegance.....take a page out of their book.

I have been guilty of the above, but thank God for Jesus.

 

[nathansgirl1908]

I dont want a man to notice me becuz of my body, but I want him to notice the Spirit and Christ that lives in me.

Are you genuine with this stuff? I don't want to be looked at as a piece of meat either so I understand that. It's just that sometimes y'all are so over-the-top it's not even believable. I say that with love of course.

I don't like the spelling of "girl" on those shirts.

 

[Guitarhero]

Ok to YOU, they are not vulgar. Like Health and Hair said its the point that they associated this with the Church..I see styles like this allll day long but when you stamp Churchgirl on it, that changes the messages.

And personally, someone who goes to Church does not make them a automatic Christian. Just like if you stand in a garage, it dont make you a car...

Pants are designed to attract??

Now I agree people wear make up to attract, and i dont agree with that either..I didnt say I dont agree with make up, Im saying when people wear it to allure men..thats different *dodging stones**

But people can use anything to "attract" someone..i mean anything.but the point that is being made to associate this clothing with the Christian woman.

And we are not talking about culture at this time, we are talking about Christianity...thus, this is this why in the Chrisitian forum...

What if a girl wearing such a tee without words was a known christian. Does it make it better and more acceptable? She's still associated with being a christian. It is about culture...cuz in some, the very clothing that most of you are wearing today is not cutting it modest-wise. How are they secretly judging you? It's all relative. You know I pick apart these topics.

 

[Guitarhero]

I agree that we dont walk around in potato sack, but can I can honestly say when i go into the store and pick out something, the last thing on my mind is attracting someone with this. I may get it because I think the design is nice/cute or because its on sale , but I dont go in there with agenda to be "fine" or show my shape..my style of dress is pretty simple...I dont dress with the agenda to "shine" or get lookers....but thats just me..im just saying

Ahhhhh, yeah you do...you look at what pleases your eye and how it will make you "presentable and attactive overall." A sale price is a financial incentive It's so ingrained in us as humans. This is why we have the gift of decoration worldwide. We love art. But here ya go

I kid!!!!

 

[LucieLoo12]

Yes Im very genuine with what I say! I mean every word it..
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I know it may sound hard to believe, but its really women out there with mindsets like this..

Are you genuine with this stuff? I don't want to be looked at as a piece of meat either so I understand that. It's just that sometimes y'all are so over-the-top it's not even believable. I say that with love of course.

I don't like the spelling of "girl" on those shirts.

 

[LucieLoo12]

you make me laugh Guitarhero! You r so fun..

But to look presentable and attractive is 2 different things! lol..

Ahhhhh, yeah you do...you look at what pleases your eye and how it will make you "presentable and attactive overall." It's so ingrained in us as humans. This is why we have the gift of decoration worldwide. We love art.

 

[nathansgirl1908]

Yes Im very genuine with what I say! I mean every word it..
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I know it may sound hard to believe, but its really women out there with mindsets like this..

Yes, I know there are women with mindset like this. They just dont announce it in such a manner...It just sounds too forced I suppose. A man can appreciate a woman's beauty AND the Godly character that she radiates.

 

[LucieLoo12]

No its doesnt make it more acceptable..whether Christian is written on your shirt or not, you still got to have a lifestyle. Just like wearing Christian on your shirt dont make you Christian...but the point of this topics isnt the clothing , it's the audience that the clothing line is trying to draw.. and thats Christians..A athiest wouldnt buy this

I always say..all my clothes I wear outside, is acceptable for me to wear in the church house. with the exception of work out clothes, or lay around the house clothes and pajamas..

I dont have one standard of dress for church and one for went Im not at church..its modesty all day everyday. if I couldnt wear it to church too, tis not getting bought!

If my breast and thigh dont hang out when im in church, its not gone hang out when im out of church
I know you pick these topics apart, thats why I dont take it personal

What if a girl wearing such a tee without words was a known christian. Does it make it better and more acceptable? She's still associated with being a christian. It is about culture...cuz in some, the very clothing that most of you are wearing today is not cutting it modest-wise. How are they secretly judging you? It's all relative. You know I pick apart these topics.

 

[LucieLoo12]

Ahhhhh, yeah you do...you look at what pleases your eye and how it will make you "presentable and attactive overall." A sale price is a financial incentive It's so ingrained in us as humans. This is why we have the gift of decoration worldwide. We love art. But here ya go

I kid!!!!

 

[LucieLoo12]

Forced? ...ok..

Yes, I know there are women with mindset like this. They just dont announce it in such a manner...It just sounds too forced I suppose. A man can appreciate a woman's beauty AND the Godly character that she radiates.

 

[LoveisYou]

Guitarhero, but aren't we charged with the responsibility of not enticing our brothers to fall through lust?

I think there is a different between looking presentable with tasteful makeup and having your breasts spilling out of your top, where you are in fact enticing another to look on your flesh in a sexual manner. When Esther adorned herself to see the king, she didn't go before him in a lewd manner. I think there is a difference between looking beautiful and looking sexy, they are not the same and we shouldn't conflate them.
Surely there's a difference between rocking your red bottoms with a tasteful dress and rocking them with a pair of pum pum shorts?

 

[Guitarhero]

I think every church would benefit from giving a seminar on how to dress like a woman of God, the seminar should include pictures of appropriate clothing. For the women who always complain that they don't want to look frumpy, there is a difference between looking like a frump and looking like a woman of the night. You can be fashionable and elegant....2 of the ultimate fashion icons (Jackie O. and Audrey Hepburn) epitomized feminine style and elegance.....take a page out of their book.

I have been guilty of the above, but thank God for Jesus.

I get the point...but eh, not feeling their style...not Bohemian and natural enough...I'd prefer khakis and natural materials... THey might have epitomied it for THEM but not as a christian uniform of sorts. To some, their skirts were too high and showed legs. To others, they are a bit matronly. So, is it intent? Just how much intent? And no matter what women wear, there are just some men who get turned on due to their own struggles with lust. I dunno....there's another thread on this I think...

 

[Guitarhero]

Guitarhero, but aren't we charged with the responsibility of not enticing our brothers to fall through lust?

I think there is a different between looking presentable with tasteful makeup and having your breasts spilling out of your top, where you are in fact enticing another to look on your flesh in a sexual manner. When Esther adorned herself to see the king, she didn't go before him in a lewd manner. I think there is a difference between looking beautiful and looking sexy, they are not the same and we shouldn't conflate them.
Surely there's a difference between rocking your red bottoms with a tasteful dress and rocking them with a pair of pum pum shorts?

Within biblical reason. But are you going to wear a chadoor or burqa today because you're afraid of a lustful man glaring at you? If I were born in the Amazon, modesty would be a hemp string covering the slit front-to-back with two beads in-between...or not pubic hair etc. It's relative to culture, even here in the U.S. We wear pants, tees, flip-flops, shorts, etc. to church...probably not something your folks do at yours. We do have a standard with those clothing. It's common sense...but that's tricky because everyone has an individual standard. You cannot show buttcheeks, nipples, nor wear masochistic leather looking like Freddy. But who's to say that those wearing shorts are disrespecting G-d? I wouldn't be caught dead looking like the average "Jackie O./Hepburn"...just ain't me. And I would expect them to respect my fashion choices as well and not attributing to me ung-dliness. There is a standard...it's just that what's being touted at the standard here...ain't the standard, actually.

 

[Iwanthealthyhair67]

The HS the 'teacher' should and does show us how to dress ...there is no 'different' HS ...like you I agree christian women don't need to dress like a potato sack but neither should their bellies and boobs be exposed... who are we... people SHOULD be able to tell that we are different ...

Well, that's what I'm saying...all this making selves up and whatnot...sexy or presentable in a feminine way? Same thing! It's meant to attract - otherwise, folks would go through life in a potato sack. Where do we draw the line? Is a tank tee sinful? Is one inch of cleavage sinful? Jewelry? The H-ly Spirit (HS???) operating in you might not look the same as that of another person. There's definitely a congruent factor in what it is to be a christian but potato sack is not it.

 

[LucieLoo12]

If someone has a problem with lust , then you are right, they will lust after whatever you have on. But we all know certain clothing items will excite the lust even the more..

 

[LoveisYou]

I get the point...but eh, not feeling their style...not Bohemian and natural enough...I'd prefer khakis and natural materials... THey might have epitomied it for THEM but not as a christian uniform of sorts. To some, their skirts were too high and showed legs. To others, they are a bit matronly. So, is it intent? Just how much intent? And no matter what women wear, there are just some men who get turned on due to their own struggles with lust. I dunno....there's another thread on this I think...

Woman I didn't say it has a Christian uniform. I just used them as examples for ppl who might be unsure or for ppl looking for point of reference. There are plenty of other women (including bohemian types) who could also serve as a point of reference. While there are difference definitions of modesty, I don't think we should throw our arms up and say forget it because everyone has a different view. With all the definitions out there, most Christians draw the line somewhere and most would draw the line at the spilling of boobs, showing bare legs for days and a lot of skin exposure. Don't we know that our bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit?

You are right there are some men who can be sexually turned on by looking at a woman's eyelash. All I am saying is we can and must reasonably do our part.

 

[Iwanthealthyhair67]

back to my original thought we want to look like everyone else and when we are mistaken for the world we get offended and justify our actions saying; christianity is 'cool' and 'sexy' and 'modern' ...(lol, that's a dry laugh)...

 

[Guitarhero]

The HS the 'teacher' should and does show us how to dress ...there is no 'different' HS ...like you I agree christian women don't need to dress like a potato sack but neither should their bellies and boobs be exposed... who are we... people SHOULD be able to tell that we are different ...

I didn't say there was a "different" H-ly Spirit. We obviously don't dress as the Virgin Mary or Martha of the bible these days.

 

[Iwanthealthyhair67]

^^no, no I didn't say you said that ...but we must all be on one accord because there is only one holy spirit, kwim?

but the sad realtity is that we are not...

 

[Rainbow Dash]

I am trying to understand why these particular shirts would be acceptable?

I just don't get it.

Now hear me: You have a shirt that says 'Church gurl' on it. The shirt is designed to show the belly and other stuff. And somehow we have Christians who find it acceptable.

Are people just overlooking the WORDS on the shirt and just looking at the shirt?

And even if you look at the shirt, would it be acceptable for those who name the name of Christ to represent Him this way?

 

[Iwanthealthyhair67]

^^

AND they overlook it even more so when some gospel singer/actor wears one ...once it's okay for them to do (the star) it's okay for us today...the power of influence is like that...

 

[LoveisYou]

I am trying to understand why these particular shirts would be acceptable?

I just don't get it.

Now hear me: You have a shirt that says 'Church gurl' on it. The shirt is designed to show the belly and other stuff. And somehow we have Christians who find it acceptable.

Are people just overlooking the WORDS on the shirt and just looking at the shirt?

And even if you look at the shirt, would it be acceptable for those who name the name of Christ to represent Him this way?

Those shirts reminds me of some weird fetish.

 

[Shimmie]

I am trying to understand why these particular shirts would be acceptable?

I just don't get it.

Now hear me: You have a shirt that says 'Church gurl' on it. The shirt is designed to show the belly and other stuff. And somehow we have Christians who find it acceptable.

Are people just overlooking the WORDS on the shirt and just looking at the shirt?

And even if you look at the shirt, would it be acceptable for those who name the name of Christ to represent Him this way?

This is what's going on with these shirts. It's a marketing stategy which states, "If you put God in it, that makes it right 'eous.

However, there's nothing righteous about it. The wearer's are 'selling' themselves 'out'... literally

 

[NaturallySweet73]

1 Timothy 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with decency and propriety

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serious fail

 

[LifeafterLHCF]

My only two cents is the woman of God has been forever tainted and tarnished bc so many will lose they panties over a man.I said this before at a singles ministry and the room went quiet..But its like women throw themselves on a man and will do whatever so these shirts would def be the attire they would want..show a little boob,show that nice round bum and thigh etc..a woman can look like a woman without a skirt down to baby toe but we don't need to flaunt what we have as its prideful and self seeking..like flirting..I have a very flirty nature that I have to corral bc I know its not Godly or proper..this society I pray won't go to hell in a hand basket.

 

[Shimmie]

^^

AND they overlook it even more so when some gospel singer/actor wears one ...once it's okay for them to do (the star) it's okay for us today...the power of influence is like that...

Exactly... Healthy Hair...

I realized that the 'fans' who imitate the 'artists', are hungry for the attention that's given to those in the spotlight.

Example: Everyone was raving about Madonna, Britney Spears, and now lady gaga; the young girls who want this same attention, imitate them hoping to be 'loved'; not knowing that the love they seek is not found in this behaviour.

They 'curse' like the artists, dress like them, walk, talk, live like them. They literally lose their identity in these people that they idolize.

'So what does it profit a man / woman to gain the 'ways of the world' and lose his / her soul...'

 

[Shimmie]

My only two cents is the woman of God has been forever tainted and tarnished bc so many will lose they panties over a man.I said this before at a singles ministry and the room went quiet..But its like women throw themselves on a man and will do whatever so these shirts would def be the attire they would want..show a little boob,show that nice round bum and thigh etc..a woman can look like a woman without a skirt down to baby toe but we don't need to flaunt what we have as its prideful and self seeking..like flirting..I have a very flirty nature that I have to corral bc I know its not Godly or proper..this society I pray won't go to hell in a hand basket.

You shared a beautiful 'million' of God's wisdom here...