Rollerset or Airdry

[dreemssold]

Is there a moisturizer that you would recommend. In the past, I have really thought that most stylists were trying to rip me off. However, I made it clear to this stylist that I was going to be doing my hair by myself at home. Also, she knew that I was from a hairboard, so she probably figured that I was not going to be coming in every week, ! She STILL told me that I should rollerset at home. She said that everyone's hair is different and that my type of hair (it is super kinky) should only be airdried after it's been freshly relaxed. She said that rollersetting helps to soften the new growth.

What happens to me is that my roots become matted when they are airdryed and my hair is tangly and hard to comb. I felt so bad for this stylist, because I was about 14 weeks post-relaxer but she still did a good job and did not charge me extra for all the extra work.

When my hair is rollerset (and blown with a hairdryer but I have stopped this), it is much easier to handle throughout the week, but I see shedding a lot. Either way, I shed a bit. However, I noticed after this relaxer that my hair did seem a little bit thicker, so something is working. I think that I will wait until I am four or five weeks post and then maybe try the method where I just sit under the dryer for 15 minutes -- I hate sitting under the dryer , which is why I liked airdrying -- and see if that helps to extend the relaxer to 8 weeks with minimal breakage.

tryn, my hair is super kinky also, but I find that when I apply NTM serum and Salerm21 to my hair before air drying, my roots and the rest of my hair dries soft and moisturized. If my roots still felt hard after that (as they do while I Surge), I would just use Profectiv Break Free to soften them up. It's really about not manipulating the hair while dry after airdrying. My roots are hard and crunchy as I type , but it doesn't matter because the next time I put a comb to my head will be tonight after a CO wash.

I understand what the stylist is saying, but every head of hair is different; therefore, even the most learned stylist doesn't necessarily know what is best for your head (and of course, I don't either ), but if you find that you shed either way, I'd say, try both ways, see what produces the least shedding/breakage, and go with that. If you have less with airdrying, even if your roots aren't soft, you are using less heat, and I'd think that would be best. If you experience less with rollersetting, then I'd think that would be best. HTH .

 

[tryn2growmyhair]

tryn, my hair is super kinky also, but I find that when I apply NTM serum and Salerm21 to my hair before air drying, my roots and the rest of my hair dries soft and moisturized. If my roots still felt hard after that (as they do while I Surge), I would just use Profectiv Break Free to soften them up. It's really about not manipulating the hair while dry after airdrying. My roots are hard and crunchy as I type , but it doesn't matter because the next time I put a comb to my head will be tonight after a CO wash.

I understand what the stylist is saying, but every head of hair is different; therefore, even the most learned stylist doesn't necessarily know what is best for your head (and of course, I don't either ), but if you find that you shed either way, I'd say, try both ways, see what produces the least shedding/breakage, and go with that. If you have less with airdrying, even if your roots aren't soft, you are using less heat, and I'd think that would be best. If you experience less with rollersetting, then I'd think that would be best. HTH .

Thanks for the advice, Dreamssold.

 

[Dolapo]

tryn, my hair is super kinky also, but I find that when I apply NTM serum and Salerm21 to my hair before air drying, my roots and the rest of my hair dries soft and moisturized. If my roots still felt hard after that (as they do while I Surge), I would just use Profectiv Break Free to soften them up. It's really about not manipulating the hair while dry after airdrying. My roots are hard and crunchy as I type , but it doesn't matter because the next time I put a comb to my head will be tonight after a CO wash.

I understand what the stylist is saying, but every head of hair is different; therefore, even the most learned stylist doesn't necessarily know what is best for your head (and of course, I don't either ), but if you find that you shed either way, I'd say, try both ways, see what produces the least shedding/breakage, and go with that. If you have less with airdrying, even if your roots aren't soft, you are using less heat, and I'd think that would be best. If you experience less with rollersetting, then I'd think that would be best. HTH .

How do you apply the NTM serum? Is it after you apply the salerm 21 or before. While its soaking wet, damp or dry?

 

[dreemssold]

You're welcome, tryn...hth. Dolapo, I wring my hair with my hands post-washing, so that it is still somewhat damp. I apply the Salerm, comb it through (finger or seamless), and then I apply the NTM. HTH .

 

[tryn2growmyhair]

You're welcome, tryn...hth. Dolapo, I wring my hair with my hands post-washing, so that it is still somewhat damp. I apply the Salerm, comb it through (finger or seamless), and then I apply the NTM. HTH .

Thanks again, Dreamssold. You have gorgeous hair. In your final analysis, would you say that airdrying is overall better than rollersetting with heat? Maybe I will try rollersetting with no heat.

 

[Dolapo]

You're welcome, tryn...hth. Dolapo, I wring my hair with my hands post-washing, so that it is still somewhat damp. I apply the Salerm, comb it through (finger or seamless), and then I apply the NTM. HTH .

Thanks for the info.

 

[dreemssold]

Oh, you're both welcome! tryn, in my case, yes, no heat has proven to be a Godsend. My hair is noticeably thicker since I began airdrying more often. This is not to say that I never use heat anymore (I do ), but using it less has made a marked improvement in my hair's appearance. Please keep us posted on your results if you do rollerset sans heat...good luck!

 

[tryn2growmyhair]

Oh, you're both welcome! tryn, in my case, yes, no heat has proven to be a Godsend. My hair is noticeably thicker since I began airdrying more often. This is not to say that I never use heat anymore (I do ), but using it less has made a marked improvement in my hair's appearance. Please keep us posted on your results if you do rollerset sans heat...good luck!

Here is an update: I washed my hair last night using the Cathy Howse conditioner that I just got in and her moisturizer. Both are good, but the moisturizer is the ish! It left my hair the way that I expected S-Curl to leave my hair. My hair very moisturized and not greasy. The only slightly greasy feeling that I got was from my homemade oil mix and coconut oil that I added to it. My hair is ALWAYS slighty dry (sometimes dry with an oily feeling but dry and a bit crunchy, nevertheless) when I have airdried in the past with other products. The CH moisturizer is definately a keeper.

I do not get as much hairloss when I airdry -- rollersets take a lot of combing. However, my hairstylist said that airdrying should only be done on a fresh relaxer if I do them at all (she doesn't like airdrying) because of my hair texture. I think in order to cut down on heat, I will maybe wait until I am four or 5 weeks post and then start the rollersets ONCE/week (my scalp feels best when its washed 2x a week because I excercise) and will try to only use 15-20 minutes of heat and then turn the dryer to cool for the reminder. Cool air counts as no heat, right?

 

[tryn2growmyhair]

I'm wondering if all of the combing might be a good reason not to rollerset. What is better, to comb a lot when rollersetting hair and see some breakage and less breakage throughout the week? Or to not comb and just airdry, have hair look a little messy and not as straight and silky and have mostly shedding and a small amount of breakage? I get more shedding than breakage when I airdry? But, because my hair is slightly weak when it is damp, I get a little bit of breakage. I noticed this this morning when I set my almost completely airdried hair on solar rollers -- these are soft rollers -- has anyone ever used these, BTW?

 

[LBoogie]

I airdry wrap for now because I havent mastered doing a rollerset airdry. I was doing rollerset under the dryer but my dryer broke...The only promblem I have with the wrap/ airdrying is that if I take it down before its 110% dry it looks fuzzy.

 

[BAILEYSCREAM]

Do you rollerset or airdry and which one has allowed you to grow your hair? I ask because I got my hair done today and yet ANOTHER hairdresser told me that my hair does not do well with airdrying. She said that my roots would be hard from doing this and that I should rollerset or wrap my hair and then go under a dryer. She also said not to wait long for a relaxer. I think that this does not work well for my hair. I need to go every 8 weeks from now on. Too much breakage at 14 weeks. Things really went down hill after 10 weeks.

Trn2grow,

I do a combination of the 5 choices.

Sometimes, I rollerset and go under the dryer. (I haven't done this in months).

I also rollerset and allow my hair to airdry pulling the roots quite taut if I have things to do because my hair takes a while to dry under the dryer (haven't done this in months because I have to roll the hair myself).

I have never wrapped my hair (because I find it too tedious, I better learn)so, number 3 and 4 don't really apply.

I mostly airdry nowadays because my hair is a lot drier since I took the braids off, I also use a blow dryer on low heat or cool when I blow dry (very rarely now). I used to blow dry twice a week on the hot setting but that became a little too much for my hair and I used to molt all over the place (carpet covered in hair).

For the longest time I did the shampoo and condition, add products then dry in a wet ponytail routine. If it's freezing or snowing outside that is not an option especially when I have to go out. So I used to wash my hair the night before then put it in a ponytail and plait the ends).

So now (for about a week or two) I have been doing that satin scarf technique and sit under the dryer until the hair dries (It's easier than adding rollers and then sitting for ages). I'm 9 weeks post at the moment and it seems to be helping.

Also got myself a flat iron.

 

[tryn2growmyhair]

Trn2grow,

I do a combination of the 5 choices.

Sometimes, I rollerset and go under the dryer. (I haven't done this in months).

I also rollerset and allow my hair to airdry pulling the roots quite taut if I have things to do because my hair takes a while to dry under the dryer (haven't done this in months because I have to roll the hair myself).

I have never wrapped my hair (because I find it too tedious, I better learn)so, number 3 and 4 don't really apply.

I mostly airdry nowadays because my hair is a lot drier since I took the braids off, I also use a blow dryer on low heat or cool when I blow dry (very rarely now). I used to blow dry twice a week on the hot setting but that became a little too much for my hair and I used to molt all over the place (carpet covered in hair).

For the longest time I did the shampoo and condition, add products then dry in a wet ponytail routine. If it's freezing or snowing outside that is not an option especially when I have to go out. So I used to wash my hair the night before then put it in a ponytail and plait the ends).

So now (for about a week or two) I have been doing that satin scarf technique and sit under the dryer until the hair dries (It's easier than adding rollers and then sitting for ages). I'm 9 weeks post at the moment and it seems to be helping.

Also got myself a flat iron.

Thanks for the tip. How has that satin scarf method worked for you? I have read that thread through and through and still dont think that I understand how to do it.

 

[BAILEYSCREAM]

Thanks for the tip. How has that satin scarf method worked for you? I have read that thread through and through and still dont think that I understand how to do it.

Tryn2grow,

I have tried it twice now and it worked. It makes your hair really flat.

I shampooed my hair as usual and conditioned. The first time I did the scarf technique I didn't comb my hair at all because it wasn't behaving the way I wanted. Anyway, the second time I combed it out with my big wide toothed comb.

Then I applied wild growth hair oil from roots to tips to the wet hair and then sprayed it with better braids hair spray. Both these products help to soften up the hair and make it easier to comb.

I combed it all back, put it in a ponytail with a ponytail holder. I plaited the ends of my hair and then I tied my triangular satin scarf over my head (really tight).

I sat under the hair dryer until my hair was dry.

That method has really helped me to cut down on blow drying because once my hair is washed if I don't put it in a wet pony then I just whip out the blowdryer.

I may try it with the rollers later on.

 

[mscounselor]

How can you airdry with a ponytail without the frizz? I usually roller set and sat under a dryer, but I am on the no heat challenge so thats out. I can't roller set and air dry since I only have the weekends so I would like to have some other no heat options.

 

[Mestiza]

Currently, I airdry my hair in a bun, ponytail or hanging down. I want to rollerset my hair w/o using heat. My hair seems to not like heat, anymore.

 

[Mestiza]

How can you airdry with a ponytail without the frizz? I usually roller set and sat under a dryer, but I am on the no heat challenge so thats out. I can't roller set and air dry since I only have the weekends so I would like to have some other no heat options.

My hair starts to frizz when it's not moisturized enough. I have very thick and coarse hair and I neglect to put moisturizer all throughout my hair b/c I'm in a hurry, sometimes. This happened to me, recently. I'm 5 1/2 months post relaxer and my hair was so frizzy in the middlle where I hadn't put much of anything. I moisturized that area and the frizz went away.

 

[ccd]

Tryintogrow.....

Hope you have found a combo that best suits your hair.....I just wanted to add, I find that airdrying is something I have to do in small doses.... I can only go 3-4 days max straight airdrying, whether in a bun or loose....my hair gets very wavy and if I have new growth more curls are created.

I have learned that daily washing is something I can't do, although that is the best way to detangle and keep hair moist, unless I have alot of time on my hands...my hair takes tooooooo long to airdry and I don't like going out "wet headed"...unless in a bun.

Also, I have to alternate rollersets have gotten my hair very healthy over the years....when I use to airdry, back in college....I had major dryness and breakage cause I didn't properly moisturize.

When I go to touchup, I make sure I rollerset at least 5-7 days before I plan to get the touchup...I never go to the salon with my hair curly/wavy, and with new growth, I don't want her to have to rip through my hair ( she wouldn't but I'm just imagining her gettin frustrated) I deep condition, then use major detangler to easy the combing during the rollersetting.

PRODUCTS: CON shampoo and the reconstructor I use which is great for both, strengthening and detangling for me/ also Keracare's 5&1)
The leavins ( see siggy) I use also aid sooo much
AND A spray bottle with water and detangling setting lotion (siggy)

At that time, I use larger than normal rollers...that helps me make fewer sections and hair dries straighter...less manip. on the new growth cause the roller flattens it out. Then I will lightly blow out the roots.....

I did this (with amazement) with few hairs in the comb or brush at 4 and1/2 months post ( not by choice by necessity)

That's what works for me HTH

 

[mscounselor]

My hair starts to frizz when it's not moisturized enough. I have very thick and coarse hair and I neglect to put moisturizer all throughout my hair b/c I'm in a hurry, sometimes. This happened to me, recently. I'm 5 1/2 months post relaxer and my hair was so frizzy in the middlle where I hadn't put much of anything. I moisturized that area and the frizz went away.

Thanks! I'll look into that the next time I CW.

 

[tryn2growmyhair]

Tryintogrow.....

Hope you have found a combo that best suits your hair.....I just wanted to add, I find that airdrying is something I have to do in small doses.... I can only go 3-4 days max straight airdrying, whether in a bun or loose....my hair gets very wavy and if I have new growth more curls are created.

I have learned that daily washing is something I can't do, although that is the best way to detangle and keep hair moist, unless I have alot of time on my hands...my hair takes tooooooo long to airdry and I don't like going out "wet headed"...unless in a bun.

Also, I have to alternate rollersets have gotten my hair very healthy over the years....when I use to airdry, back in college....I had major dryness and breakage cause I didn't properly moisturize.

When I go to touchup, I make sure I rollerset at least 5-7 days before I plan to get the touchup...I never go to the salon with my hair curly/wavy, and with new growth, I don't want her to have to rip through my hair ( she wouldn't but I'm just imagining her gettin frustrated) I deep condition, then use major detangler to easy the combing during the rollersetting.

PRODUCTS: CON shampoo and the reconstructor I use which is great for both, strengthening and detangling for me/ also Keracare's 5&1)
The leavins ( see siggy) I use also aid sooo much
AND A spray bottle with water and detangling setting lotion (siggy)

At that time, I use larger than normal rollers...that helps me make fewer sections and hair dries straighter...less manip. on the new growth cause the roller flattens it out. Then I will lightly blow out the roots.....

I did this (with amazement) with few hairs in the comb or brush at 4 and1/2 months post ( not by choice by necessity)

That's what works for me HTH

Thanks so much for all of your helpful advice, CCD. I actually just got out from under my beloved Pibbs Kwik Dry.
Unfortunately, I am still having problems. I have been airdrying under the Pibbs and my hair is dry, dry, dry, no matter what I use. I tried the Rusk smoother and it left my hair dry and tangly.

And my hair has been shedding, shedding, shedding.

How often do you use the CON reconstructor (it is the CON reconstructor that you use?).

Any more tips? I also agree that it's important to rollerset before going to the salon for a relaxer.
TIA.

 

[ccd]

Ok, Tryin2 where you drying your hair with rollers or out loose, in other words wash and go ( but under the dryer)?

I use the CON recon approx. twice a month/ I rotate between Keracare 5&1 though, I go by what I think my hair needs, they are both detangling to me but I find Keracare slightly more moisturizing (the main difference to me would be price....Keracare is more)

Also, have you tried pretreatments for the dryness?
I have tried EVOO, Honey mixed into Cholestrol

Maybe you could try rollersetting for a while under medium setting...and pretreat * your hair (that way you are protecting your hair during the shampoo process

*(I would also Deep condition at least twice a month/I would mreally try every wash, but that is just me, that might be too much for others; if you have the time I would, at least until my hair regained its strength and moisture)

HTH

 

[Kitkat]

My hair swears by roller setting because I can get it fairly straight by doing this. Since my hair is more texturized than relaxed, air drying = a huge ball of frizz = run, everybody!! I'm looking forward to rollersetting once I take down my braids this weekend since I just received my order from Irby's. I ordered Keracare Setting Lotion, the Oil Moisturizer w/Jojoba, and the Silken Seal. I hope they give me some sleek, swingin' sets!!

 

[Mestiza]

Originally Posted by Mestiza

My hair starts to frizz when it's not moisturized enough. I have very thick and coarse hair and I neglect to put moisturizer all throughout my hair b/c I'm in a hurry, sometimes. This happened to me, recently. I'm 5 1/2 months post relaxer and my hair was so frizzy in the middlle where I hadn't put much of anything. I moisturized that area and the frizz went away.

Thanks! I'll look into that the next time I CW.

I'm really good about coating every strand of my hair w/ conditioner and later w/ moisturizer on wash days. I'm guessing that's why it's not frizzy when I airdry. On a daily basis, I need to make sure that I get the middle layers of hair w/ my moisturizer. Sometimes, I need to listen to Brand Nubian and Bobby Valentino and "Slow Down" LOL!

BTW, I always put some type of an oil (Coconut, EVOO, etc...) on my hair after the moisturizer and this helps, tremendously.

 

[Crystalicequeen123]

I normally rollerset and airdry, but last night I rollerset and sat under the dryer on cool for about 30-45 minutes, then I let it airdry overnight. This morning my hair is bouncer than it has been. I don't know if it is because I use the dryer or becasue I didn't use setting lotion. But I'm loving it this morning.

Wow...how did you manage to rollerset your hair WITHOUT any setting lotion?? If I tried that, my wet hair would break and tangle up so bad while I'm trying to roller set it!

 

[tryn2growmyhair]

Ok, Tryin2 where you drying your hair with rollers or out loose, in other words wash and go ( but under the dryer)?

I use the CON recon approx. twice a month/ I rotate between Keracare 5&1 though, I go by what I think my hair needs, they are both detangling to me but I find Keracare slightly more moisturizing (the main difference to me would be price....Keracare is more)

Also, have you tried pretreatments for the dryness?
I have tried EVOO, Honey mixed into Cholestrol

Maybe you could try rollersetting for a while under medium setting...and pretreat * your hair (that way you are protecting your hair during the shampoo process

*(I would also Deep condition at least twice a month/I would mreally try every wash, but that is just me, that might be too much for others; if you have the time I would, at least until my hair regained its strength and moisture)

HTH

Thanks for the tips. I was pretreating with just oil or with coconut milk. Last time I used an amla powder/wheat germ and olive oil/coconut milk mix that I left in fridge the night before and it was a disaster.

On Sundays I do a full rollerset and the last two times that I tried Rusk Smoother my hair was a mess. On Wednesdays I dry my hair in a bun. I always use Pibb Kwik Dri on the lowest setting. Maybe I will try a medium setting this time.

I deep condition at least once a week.

 

[tryn2growmyhair]

Also, I was using Mane N Tail Cathy Howse conditioner recipe for the longest. I am going to switch to using up the Motions CPR that I have in this recipe.

 

[longhairgoal]

I airdry in a bun. Works really well for me.

 

[Jewell]

I used to rollerset my hair religiously every week after a wash and sit under the dryer, and my hair grew just as well then as it does now with me air drying and THEN wrapping. My hair would NEVER dry if I wrapped it first. I might go back to my roller sets and wraps. They would work for 2 weeks in between washes.

 

[tryn2growmyhair]

I used to rollerset my hair religiously every week after a wash and sit under the dryer, and my hair grew just as well then as it does now with me air drying and THEN wrapping. My hair would NEVER dry if I wrapped it first. I might go back to my roller sets and wraps. They would work for 2 weeks in between washes.

Jewell -- are you still going to stay on the no heat regimen with the rollersets? I rollerset with the Pibbs Kwik Dry at 40 degrees and my hair feels so much better. My hair also looks neater. I think that I need heat for my hair to feel good. I also did an overnight treatment with Humecto and a little bit of peppermint oil. I think the humecto also helped.

 

[tryn2growmyhair]

Bump bump bump.

 

[tryn2growmyhair]

Ok, Tryin2 where you drying your hair with rollers or out loose, in other words wash and go ( but under the dryer)?

I use the CON recon approx. twice a month/ I rotate between Keracare 5&1 though, I go by what I think my hair needs, they are both detangling to me but I find Keracare slightly more moisturizing (the main difference to me would be price....Keracare is more)

Also, have you tried pretreatments for the dryness?
I have tried EVOO, Honey mixed into Cholestrol

Maybe you could try rollersetting for a while under medium setting...and pretreat * your hair (that way you are protecting your hair during the shampoo process

*(I would also Deep condition at least twice a month/I would mreally try every wash, but that is just me, that might be too much for others; if you have the time I would, at least until my hair regained its strength and moisture)

HTH

I am still suffering from dryness and think that my hair might be reverting because of washing twice a week. Do you have any more advice? I appreciate all the advice that all of you ladies gave me before. Thanks.