Relaxed Hair Thread

[Saludable84]

Don't try to get me started. I've been having many thoughts about heat. I know its the debil but i want my roots straight for my long stretches and heat is the only way out. I'm thinking of using the Design Essentials silkening spray as my first heat protectant once my NG becomes too much and then find something to use in between. Any suggestions on excellent heat protectants Saludable84

I live by CHI so that's all I can speak of. The keratin silk infusion is my HG before flat ironing but I don't care for it rollersetting. Redken was too heavy IMO. The aphogee green tea seems nice for direct heat styling, but is too hard for me for indirect heat.

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[Dshsjh4ever]

Question ladies ..... How bad is hooded dryer heat in your hair???? Would weekly hooded drying be bad or destroy my hair? And what heat protectant do u recommend ?

 

[Cattypus1]

Question ladies ..... How bad is hooded dryer heat in your hair???? Would weekly hooded drying be bad or destroy my hair? And what heat protectant do u recommend ?

Most hood dryers use indirect heat and are the recommended method for mechanical drying. Chi has a really good heat protectant.

 

[ckisland]

I have a question.
If you were doing a virgin relaxer, how long would you want to apply it after straightening your hair?

I flatironed my hair today, and I would like to relax soon. I've seen someone suggest straightening natural hair would make the application process easier. Do you think that's a good idea?

 

[Lilmama1011]

I have a question. If you were doing a virgin relaxer, how long would you want to apply it after straightening your hair? I flatironed my hair today, and I would like to relax soon. I've seen someone suggest straightening natural hair would make the application process easier. Do you think that's a good idea?

I have never heard of actually flat ironing the hair to do so, I have heard blow drying the hair would work. Idk but I wouldn't do it, but that's because I'm scared of direct heat and relaxing would be double poison for me ckisland

 

[PureSilver]

ckisland I say forego the flat ironing you don't need that

**get some good fitting gloves
**add some conditioner or a moisturizing oil to your relaxer
**get a brush, work fast if doing it yourself and be gentle with your hair or if being done by a stylist, ensure she is gentle with your hair. Smooth with your hands.

Tomorrow will be 3 weeks since i got my virgin relaxer done. It came out beautifully. I clarified my hair and did a protein DC followed by a moisturizing treatment 1 week before going in to get it done. I got it very straight (prob more than i would like) and pretty.

 

[Lilmama1011]

ckisland I say forego the flat ironing you don't need that **get some good fitting gloves **add some conditioner or a moisturizing oil to your relaxer **get a brush, work fast if doing it yourself and be gentle with your hair or if being done by a stylist, ensure she is gentle with your hair. Smooth with your hands. Tomorrow will be 3 weeks since i got my virgin relaxer done. It came out beautifully. I clarified my hair and did a protein DC followed by a moisturizing treatment 1 week before going in to get it done. I got it very straight (prob more than i would like) and pretty.

I heard that putting conditioner in the relaxer will alter the ph of the relaxer. The conditioner has a ph of its own so will add to the relaxer, but oil is good

 

[divachyk]

I have a question.
If you were doing a virgin relaxer, how long would you want to apply it after straightening your hair?

I flatironed my hair today, and I would like to relax soon. I've seen someone suggest straightening natural hair would make the application process easier. Do you think that's a good idea?

ckisland I flat iron my ng about a week before my relaxer to knock out some of the kink. I'm unsure if this rule would be helpful or would apply for a virgin relaxer. I'm leaning toward no but I don't want to steer you in the wrong direction. I sometimes spritz with some distilled water the day before my TU if I need the hair to revert.

 

[NGraceO]

I have a question. If you were doing a virgin relaxer, how long would you want to apply it after straightening your hair? I flatironed my hair today, and I would like to relax soon. I've seen someone suggest straightening natural hair would make the application process easier. Do you think that's a good idea?

I would advise you to do the relaxer on detangled, stretched hair as opposed to flat ironed because you want to be able to see your texture as you smooth to ensure you get the desired level of straightness. I jut see that being more difficult with flat ironed hair. Idk if that makes sense.

NGraceO

 

[Rozlewis]

ckisland, I lightly flat iron my hair the week before the relaxer because it helps to straighten out the new growth so it is easier to apply the relaxer. I have had bad experiences when I did not do this and the new growth was tangled and matted and the stylist was rough with it which caused me to lose more hair. I have learned to detangle the new growth thoroughly and flat ironing the week before helps.

I m getting a relaxer next Thursday so I clarified and flat ironed my hair yesterday in preparation for the relaxer. My new growth is now more manageable and can be combed through easily.

 

[Saludable84]

Question ladies ..... How bad is hooded dryer heat in your hair???? Would weekly hooded drying be bad or destroy my hair? And what heat protectant do u recommend ?

I use a hooded dryer mostly every week and its not unhealthy at all. If you are worried about that though, dry at a lower temperature. I use CHI Silk Infusion faithfully and it leaves me with softer hair that retains more moisture from my deep conditioner.

 

[Saludable84]

ckisland, I lightly flat iron my hair the week before the relaxer because it helps to straighten out the new growth so it is easier to apply the relaxer. I have had bad experiences when I did not do this and the new growth was tangled and matted and the stylist was rough with it which caused me to lose more hair. I have learned to detangle the new growth thoroughly and flat ironing the week before helps.

I m getting a relaxer next Thursday so I clarified and flat ironed my hair yesterday in preparation for the relaxer. My new growth is now more manageable and can be combed through easily.

I would advise you to do the relaxer on detangled, stretched hair as opposed to flat ironed because you want to be able to see your texture as you smooth to ensure you get the desired level of straightness. I jut see that being more difficult with flat ironed hair. Idk if that makes sense.

NGraceO

ckisland I flat iron my ng about a week before my relaxer to knock out some of the kink. I'm unsure if this rule would be helpful or would apply for a virgin relaxer. I'm leaning toward no but I don't want to steer you in the wrong direction. I sometimes spritz with some distilled water the day before my TU if I need the hair to revert.

I heard that putting conditioner in the relaxer will alter the ph of the relaxer. The conditioner has a ph of its own so will add to the relaxer, but oil is good

ckisland I say forego the flat ironing you don't need that

**get some good fitting gloves
**add some conditioner or a moisturizing oil to your relaxer
**get a brush, work fast if doing it yourself and be gentle with your hair or if being done by a stylist, ensure she is gentle with your hair. Smooth with your hands.

Tomorrow will be 3 weeks since i got my virgin relaxer done. It came out beautifully. I clarified my hair and did a protein DC followed by a moisturizing treatment 1 week before going in to get it done. I got it very straight (prob more than i would like) and pretty.

I have a question.
If you were doing a virgin relaxer, how long would you want to apply it after straightening your hair?

I flatironed my hair today, and I would like to relax soon. I've seen someone suggest straightening natural hair would make the application process easier. Do you think that's a good idea?

I have never heard of actually flat ironing the hair to do so, I have heard blow drying the hair would work. Idk but I wouldn't do it, but that's because I'm scared of direct heat and relaxing would be double poison for me ckisland

What I am getting from all this is to stretch the hair by blowdrying, but don't flat iron because it will be too straight. By stretching the hair, it will be smoother to process, but the more stretched, the more likely more texture will be taken out. If you don't stretch the hair, the less likely. So stretching depends on texture.

Next, you can add oils to weaken or slow down the relaxer, but conditioners may completely alter the pH and result in less than desired results.

In the end, it all depends on how straight you want the hair.

 

[Guinan]

^^^I agree. When I got my relaxer on virgin hair, my hair was blow-dried a couple of days before the application. If you leave it curly or in it's natural state, it will be too difficult to manevour(sp) in the short amount of time allotted for a relaxer, ckisland. Now that I self-relax, I either flat iron my hair a week before the application or blow-dry 4 days before the application.

BTW, welcome to the relaxed side. Please remeber to post pics!!

 

[Guinan]

Question ladies ..... How bad is hooded dryer heat in your hair???? Would weekly hooded drying be bad or destroy my hair? And what heat protectant do u recommend ?

I use a hair dryer for indirect heat for my DC 2x's a week and I have not experience any damage from it. I think indirect heat is ok, but if your concern about the damage just use a low setting. Using indirect heat with my DC, helps the conditioner to really penetrate my hair, Dshsjh4ever

 

[jennwantslonghurr]

pelohello I have been doing the same thing for the last two months when I come out of my braids... im in a deep stretch.

The blow dryer really helps penetrate my thick stands. It's quicker and all my hair is heated not just the top layer.

It also helps if you use a conditioner that is heat activated.

 

[ckisland]

What I am getting from all this is to stretch the hair by blowdrying, but don't flat iron because it will be too straight. By stretching the hair, it will be smoother to process, but the more stretched, the more likely more texture will be taken out. If you don't stretch the hair, the less likely. So stretching depends on texture.

Next, you can add oils to weaken or slow down the relaxer, but conditioners may completely alter the pH and result in less than desired results.

In the end, it all depends on how straight you want the hair.

This is what I was what I was seeing in some older threads. Some posters were saying that they'd flatironed their hair or someone else's hair to do a virgin relaxer and they were able to get the straightness they wanted easier. I know I don't want anything close to texlaxed but not bonelaxed either. I want my relaxed hair to be straight when I wash and airdry, so I'd guess 80% processed (I'm trying to learn relaxer lingo ).

ckisland, I lightly flat iron my hair the week before the relaxer because it helps to straighten out the new growth so it is easier to apply the relaxer. I have had bad experiences when I did not do this and the new growth was tangled and matted and the stylist was rough with it which caused me to lose more hair. I have learned to detangle the new growth thoroughly and flat ironing the week before helps.

I m getting a relaxer next Thursday so I clarified and flat ironed my hair yesterday in preparation for the relaxer. My new growth is now more manageable and can be combed through easily.

I noticed that some that some relaxed-heads straighten their hair before a touch to make a few inches of new growth easier. I'm like well I've got a between APL and BSB number of inches of new growth. I'd think straightening would be even more crucial for me .

^^^I agree. When I got my relaxer on virgin hair, my hair was blow-dried a couple of days before the application. If you leave it curly or in it's natural state, it will be too difficult to manevour(sp) in the short amount of time allotted for a relaxer, ckisland. Now that I self-relax, I either flat iron my hair a week before the application or blow-dry 4 days before the application.

BTW, welcome to the relaxed side. Please remeber to post pics!!

My hair is nearly impossible to comb in it's dry state. The only reason I could get a comb through it when it was damp (right before blowdrying) was because it had serum on it. I blowdryed with a comb attachment, and even when I combed it again (because I have to) before doing the chase method, the fine tooth comb still couldn't get through my hair easily. See why I'm worried that blowdrying wouldn't be enough for me to get through my whole head and properly smooth?


Ladies, thank you for all of you're advice . I think that I'll spritz my hair and let it poof up some the night before I do the deed. I think that would be a happy medium. I am soooo excited to join y'all!! All last night I was dreaming about buying my relaxer and applying it. My hair was swangin'!! It was awesome

 

[Mahsiah]

Selena Quintanilla rocked short hair really good here
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP40Xp5Yy9I

just preparing myself for my haircut next week..

 

[coolsista-paris]

This is what I was what I was seeing in some older threads. Some posters were saying that they'd flatironed their hair or someone else's hair to do a virgin relaxer and they were able to get the straightness they wanted easier. I know I don't want anything close to texlaxed but not bonelaxed either. I want my relaxed hair to be straight when I wash and airdry, so I'd guess 80% processed (I'm trying to learn relaxer lingo ). I noticed that some that some relaxed-heads straighten their hair before a touch to make a few inches of new growth easier. I'm like well I've got a between APL and BSB number of inches of new growth. I'd think straightening would be even more crucial for me . My hair is nearly impossible to comb in it's dry state. The only reason I could get a comb through it when it was damp (right before blowdrying) was because it had serum on it. I blowdryed with a comb attachment, and even when I combed it again (because I have to) before doing the chase method, the fine tooth comb still couldn't get through my hair easily. See why I'm worried that blowdrying wouldn't be enough for me to get through my whole head and properly smooth? Ladies, thank you for all of you're advice . I think that I'll spritz my hair and let it poof up some the night before I do the deed. I think that would be a happy medium. I am soooo excited to join y'all!! All last night I was dreaming about buying my relaxer and applying it. My hair was swangin'!! It was awesome

i relaxed my virgin hair end of november.

i did a protein treatment the week before, and i had flat ironned it. i had oiled the scalp a little. then i loisturized as usual that week but with only 1 product. then like 4 days before i stopped adding any product.

it was detangled and easy for the stylist to work through.
when i air dry i still have some texture .its not texlaxed though:














the last one is flat ironned.

the more i put products the more in weighs my hair down... and ends up looking flat ironned when its not.

oh and the stylist had added some oil to the relaxer. a little bit

 

[ckisland]

So I did the deed .

It was so underwhelming !!! And I should have gone with my gut and relaxed on my fully straightened hair. Y'all scared me, so I spritzed my hair and let it dry back again in 4 braids. When I took them down most of my hair looked like I had done a braidout on hair I hadn't straightened at all .
I used Optimum Regular and rinsed it out after applying and quickly smoothing. I also used Aphogee 2 min and Roux Porosity after rinsing the relaxer out and before neutralizing. I was scared of my hair melting off or something, but I should have smoothed for another 10 minutes. I am so texlaxed . When I was done, I was like, "why do I still have curls and shrinkage!!!!" . It was a good experience overall though, especially when I started and realized that I had never applied a relaxer in my entire life .

My next question is: How soon and how would I go about doing a corrective relaxer? I want these curls gone!! coolsista-paris , you're results were exactly what I wanted!!

 

[sunnieb]

I was scared of my hair melting off or something, but I should have smoothed for another 10 minutes. I am so texlaxed .

ckisland


We just want everyone to be careful!

I let my relaxers process for 22 minutes or so and I still have hair. You'll be alright.

 

[ckisland]

ckisland


We just want everyone to be careful!

I let my relaxers process for 22 minutes or so and I still have hair. You'll be alright.

I felt so slow after I was done. I was like of course I could have left it on longer!!! .

I blowdried and I'll flatiron and post more pics tomorrow. My blowdry took 15 minutes. I'm already enjoying the relaxed life

 

[Rocky91]

It is pretty ckisland, even if it's not what you expected.
I love lurking in this thread, lots of lovely hair. I'be often thought about relaxing once just to see how my hair would look....does that sound silly? Lol.

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[ckisland]

It is pretty ckisland, even if it's not what you expected.
I love lurking in this thread, lots of lovely hair. I'be often thought about relaxing once just to see how my hair would look....does that sound silly? Lol.

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Thank you! And no, I know what you mean. In the back of my mind, I wondered what my relaxed hair would like if I actually knew what I was doing. Like I was relaxed at 6/7 and never had a say in it, and never knew I had other options. Now I know the natural side, I was curious to go full circle .

 

[Saludable84]

So I did the deed .

It was so underwhelming !!! And I should have gone with my gut and relaxed on my fully straightened hair. Y'all scared me, so I spritzed my hair and let it dry back again in 4 braids. When I took them down most of my hair looked like I had done a braidout on hair I hadn't straightened at all .
I used Optimum Regular and rinsed it out after applying and quickly smoothing. I also used Aphogee 2 min and Roux Porosity after rinsing the relaxer out and before neutralizing. I was scared of my hair melting off or something, but I should have smoothed for another 10 minutes. I am so texlaxed . When I was done, I was like, "why do I still have curls and shrinkage!!!!" . It was a good experience overall though, especially when I started and realized that I had never applied a relaxer in my entire life .

My next question is: How soon and how would I go about doing a corrective relaxer? I want these curls gone!! coolsista-paris , you're results were exactly what I wanted!!

sunnieb is right, we want you to be safe. You can correct, but you can't uncorrect. The comparison to your thumbnail is already stunning.

 

[ckisland]

I just posted a before and after in the Relaxer Reveal thread. Holy crap!!!! Apparently I was confused about what my hair looked like when I was natural .

 

[mschristine]

I'm hoping that my hot rollers and silk wrapping will bring some life back into this hair for tonight's Christmas party..going to keep it wrapped all day after I'm done until it's time to go

 

[ckisland]

coolsista-paris , I don't know if you know this, but you're my relaxed hair sister . We were natural for the same amount of time and relaxed back to back. And we starting around the same length (definitely will be after I get trimmed).
Yep, you my e-sister now .

 

[Babygrowth]

I want to relax my hair sooo bad. But I'm just protective styling so there's no need really. I miss my scalp and the lil bit of length I have. But I'm holding out. By the time I relax it will seem like a virgin relaxer. If I retain it all my hair will be 18 month stretch here I come.

 

[coolsista-paris]

coolsista-paris , I don't know if you know this, but you're my relaxed hair sister . We were natural for the same amount of time and relaxed back to back. And we starting around the same length (definitely will be after I get trimmed). Yep, you my e-sister now .

heyyyy hair sister! coool.
lets follow up !

also there is a thread call relaxed hair buddy. if you want we can sub but its fine anywhere too

 

[Mahsiah]

I don't think my hair is meant to be longer than MBL. When I hit MBL things start acting up. I guess I'll just have to maintain at BSL. I don't want to but it is what it is.