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ShayyP said:
But wouldn't pulling one strand of hair apart make it break anyway?
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Yes it will break, but it's how it breaks that determines if you hair needs protein or not. I said if it breaks without any elasticity then it need moisture. If it stretches a lot before breaking then you need protein. If stretches a little before it breaks then you are both moisture and protein balanced ShayyP
 
Lilmama1011 said:
Yes it will break, but it's how it breaks that determines if you hair needs protein or not. I said if it breaks without any elasticity then it need moisture. If it stretches a lot before breaking then you need protein. If stretches a little before it breaks then you are both moisture and protein balanced ShayyP
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Alright, I'll try this sometime soon as I already have my hair in my protective bun for the next couple of days. Thanks a bunch! :)
 
ShayyP said:
Hi ladies! (Posted this in other threads too..trying to get as much help as possible lol) Jeez, I don’t even know where to start! Relaxed my hair for the first time about 4 months ago after doing a HUGE chop 2 years ago. My hair is currently at SL, but before I decided to go on my HHJ I was a major flat iron/heat junkie. My were in terrible condition and I experience hair breakage quite often (like..A LOT). My hair is pretty fine and to me seems like it breaks off more than it actually grows. Like I said, I’ve started co-washing 1x a week, DC’ing 1 or 2x a week, shampoo 1x a week, and moisturize & seal about 6 out of 7 nights (there’s the odd night where I totally forget or feel super lazy). I’m completely at a loss in determining whether my hair is lacking protein or moisture based on the breakage I am experiencing. To me it seems that there’s a whole lot more breakage since I started my journey Cry. I’ve done Aphogee reconstructor twice (1x each week), I even tried doing a black tea rinse, and an ACV rinse. I guess since its the beginning of my journey I don’t really know of any go to products yet and it really sucks not knowing what to do about all this breakage! Like I run my hand through my hair and literally come out with at LEAST 15 broken hairs. EVERY time! Plz…any advice that anyone has or product suggestions, I’ll take it! I see so many of you ladies with beautiful hair, and although I know its going to take a lot of care and work, I want long beautiful & healthy hair too. I just wish I could find a healthy hair mentor or something to help me along the way :( Oh and I relaxed this past Saturday after a 12 week stretch.
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If your hair is breaking when dry, you need massive amounts of moisture. Your using too much protein and probably products for damaged hair that already have a ton of protein and it's not making it better. You need moisture to balance it out but it doesn't seem like its happening.

I'm sure the other ladies can give you some recommendations on good products to use. When I bought ground products, Carols Daughter Black Vanilla Smoothie worked really well. I hear Biolage conditioning balm is great too.
 
Saludable84 said:
If your hair is breaking when dry, you need massive amounts of moisture. Your using too much protein and probably products for damaged hair that already have a ton of protein and it's not making it better. You need moisture to balance it out but it doesn't seem like its happening.

I'm sure the other ladies can give you some recommendations on good products to use. When I bought ground products, Carols Daughter Black Vanilla Smoothie worked really well. I hear Biolage conditioning balm is great too.
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It breaks when its wet too :(
 
@ShayyP, apemay1969

Leave ins, moisturizers, etc have protein. Check everything that touches your hair.

ShayyP, you're using too many products that have strengthening properties. Aphogee reconstructor is a protein. Black tea rinses has a strengthening effect as well. I cannot black tea or black coffee rinse for nothing - my hair breaks something serious each time.

You're also doing a too much to your hair (based on my standards). You should not be cowashing AND deeping conditioning 1-2x week when the hair is fragile and breaking. Matter fact, I don't even do that when my hair is healthy. Hair responds differently, which I know, but I also know that my hair would be a little aggitated, jump off my head and throw up the dueces with doing all that throughout the week. You need a set it and forget it mentality to let it settle and self-correct.

ACV rinse - do you know if this is good for your hair? You need to take it back to the basics, get your hair normalized and then add one thing little by little to see how your hair responds.

Prepoo with oil -- use any oil that your hair loves. Some suggest evco acts like protein on their hair. It doesn't for me but it might for you. Try evoo for safekeeping.

Clarify - removes product buildup. Dilute the shampoo to ensure it doesn't strip the hair down too much.

Cowash - optional but highly recommended. Make sure you use a moisturizing, yet smoothing conditioner. This adds moisture back into the hair right away and helps it keep from tangling as you're going about your deep conditioning routine. My hair gets a little clumpy after shampoo so this smooths it out and makes it manageable for the dep conditioning session.

Deep Condition - use a moisturizing conditioner. Deep condition anywhere from 15-30 minutes.

Rinse hair - I use lukewarm water. Cold / cool water is the norm but it roughes up my cuticles. Warm water allows my cuticles to stay flat, thus my hair doesn't get tangled and wrapped all around itself.

What leave ins are you using? Make sure they are not protein based in any way.

If your hair requires moisture throughout the week - baggy! This is an easy way to get moisture without the stress of cowashing or conditioning.

No extra techniques right now - tea rinsing, etc, etc. Stick to the basics.

Clarify - HairVeda Amala Deep. Whatever you get, just ddilute, dilute dilute. 1 oz product to 8oz water.

Cowash - Sally's GVP Conditioning Balm (great conditioner that smooths)

Deep Conditioner - you can use Sally's GVP Conditioning Balm or Aubrey Organics Honey Suckle Rose. Both are great.

LIs - I use the LOC method. Liquid: water. Oil: evco. Cream: Pura Body Moisture Milk. Again, whatever you use - no protein.

I'm sure there's more to add but I'm on the run and can't stay long.

ETA: had no time to proofread. Hit me back if you have questions or something doesn't make sense. Oh and....avoid -cone based products as much as possible -- can be drying.

Contradictory moment: Mizani H20 is great for breakage. It has -cones if I recall correctly but it's awesome. Works like a champ.
 
divachyk said:
@ShayyP, apemay1969

Leave ins, moisturizers, etc have protein. Check everything that touches your hair.

ShayyP, you're using too many products that have strengthening properties. Aphogee reconstructor is a protein. Black tea rinses has a strengthening effect as well. I cannot black tea or black coffee rinse for nothing - my hair breaks something serious each time.

You're also doing a too much to your hair (based on my standards). You should not be cowashing AND deeping conditioning 1-2x week when the hair is fragile and breaking. Matter fact, I don't even do that when my hair is healthy. Hair responds differently, which I know, but I also know that my hair would be a little aggitated, jump off my head and throw up the dueces with doing all that throughout the week. You need a set it and forget it mentality to let it settle and self-correct.

ACV rinse - do you know if this is good for your hair? You need to take it back to the basics, get your hair normalized and then add one thing little by little to see how your hair responds.

Prepoo with oil -- use any oil that your hair loves. Some suggest evco acts like protein on their hair. It doesn't for me but it might for you. Try evoo for safekeeping.

Clarify - removes product buildup. Dilute the shampoo to ensure it doesn't strip the hair down too much.

Cowash - optional but highly recommended. Make sure you use a moisturizing, yet smoothing conditioner. This adds moisture back into the hair right away and helps it keep from tangling as you're going about your deep conditioning routine. My hair gets a little clumpy after shampoo so this smooths it out and makes it manageable for the dep conditioning session.

Deep Condition - use a moisturizing conditioner. Deep condition anywhere from 15-30 minutes.

Rinse hair - I use lukewarm water. Cold / cool water is the norm but it roughes up my cuticles. Warm water allows my cuticles to stay flat, thus my hair doesn't get tangled and wrapped all around itself.

What leave ins are you using? Make sure they are not protein based in any way.

If your hair requires moisture throughout the week - baggy! This is an easy way to get moisture without the stress of cowashing or conditioning.

No extra techniques right now - tea rinsing, etc, etc. Stick to the basics.

Clarify - HairVeda Amala Deep. Whatever you get, just ddilute, dilute dilute. 1 oz product to 8oz water.

Cowash - Sally's GVP Conditioning Balm (great conditioner that smooths)

Deep Conditioner - you can use Sally's GVP Conditioning Balm or Aubrey Organics Honey Suckle Rose. Both are great.

LIs - I use the LOC method. Liquid: water. Oil: evco. Cream: Pura Body Moisture Milk. Again, whatever you use - no protein.

I'm sure there's more to add but I'm on the run and can't stay long.

ETA: had no time to proofread. Hit me back if you have questions or something doesn't make sense. Oh and....avoid -cone based products as much as possible -- can be drying.

Contradictory moment: Mizani H20 is great for breakage. It has -cones if I recall correctly but it's awesome. Works like a champ.
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Thank you so much for this! You can say no if you want, but can we pm or something and maybe you can help me just work out a simple regimen for myself?
 
I'm so scared to use heat :nono: I probably won't ever straighten my hair with a heat tool or use heat tools except the dome hooded dryer.
 
Mahsiah said:
I'm so scared to use heat :nono: I probably won't ever straighten my hair with a heat tool or use heat tools except the dome hooded dryer.
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me too, i have a 100% ceramic flat iron and just sitting there after my set back im terrified Mahsiah even though it wasn't the flat iron itself. but there are other ways to straighten like roller sets and some can wet wrap
 
Can I come in here with yall?

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My very first day as a relaxed lady in 6 years (I self relaxed last night!) and so far and I am so happy:grin:

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Mahsiah said:
I'm so scared to use heat :nono: I probably won't ever straighten my hair with a heat tool or use heat tools except the dome hooded dryer.
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I was too until I just went for it. I just made sure I clarified the week before, moisturized with my DC very well the night before and used a keratin heat protectant. I was PARANOID, but it came out very well. I probably won't do that again until the new year, but the trick is to spoil your hair before you heat style it, so that you won't damage it in the process.
 
any recommendations for a good smelling sulfate free shampoo? i have organix
coconut and that just tangles my hair right up

also good smelling oil/ serums?
 
Gonna try to recreate this style sat when I rollerset and relax
 

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ScorpioLove said:
any recommendations for a good smelling sulfate free shampoo? i have organix coconut and that just tangles my hair right up also good smelling oil/ serums?
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ScorpioLove I love using Elasta QP Creme conditioning shampoo. It's sulfate free and very moisturizing. It smells light and like bananas maybe?? Lol I can't really describe it but I like it a lot. As far as oils go, I use extra virgin coconut oil the most. It smells lovely if you ask me! ;)
 
SincerelyBeautiful said:
ScorpioLove I love using Elasta QP Creme conditioning shampoo. It's sulfate free and very moisturizing. It smells light and like bananas maybe?? Lol I can't really describe it but I like it a lot. As far as oils go, I use extra virgin coconut oil the most. It smells lovely if you ask me! ;)
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I have that shampoo and it's great. But I have no desire to ever cheat on my Creme of Nature Argan Oil. Heads will roll if they ever discontinue it.
 
Thank you guys, I will make a list of shampoos to smell when I go to sallys this weekend (Mahsiah Is carols daughter sold at sallys?)

SincerelyBeautiful that description of the elasta qp sounds lovely.

I only use EVCO right now and my only problem with it is that although it smells nice when you first put it on, I don't like the smell after a couple days. Especially if Im trying to be hugged up on someone I kinda like :blush::look:


any more suggestions for oils/serums are welcome
 
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