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hnntrr said:
So I know relaxed heads need more protein in their regimen.

However, when I fell my hair getting 'mushy' which isss about....every 2 weeks? I do a protein conditioner. Now when I do this my hair is really hard afterwards...like really hard strawish feeling and then I have to do a ton of moisturizing to get it back to being soft.

I have Organix Tea Tree oil conditioner that has milk and some other proteins in it, and I also have Redkin Extreme Keratin Conditioner. Now I have used both and the milder protein (the organix's) still makes my hair feel just as hard if not harder than the Redkin.

In daily use, I use coconut oil (which I have heard can be used as a protein) elasta mango creme moisturizer, and a leave in and thats it.

Could I just need less protein? Not sure why my hair reacts that way anytime I use any kind of protein that isnt super mild. What can I use to help fight this? What may be the cause of it?
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I use a mild protein like Aphogee 2 min and I follow that up with a moisturizing deep conditioner and I don't have any issues. I haven't tried a super protein yet so I can't give feedback on that part. However, I do hope you find the cause and how to counteract it :) HHG!!!!!

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shortdub78 said:
what is your porous level? is your hair fine or course? i know i can't do hardcore protein. only light to medium. what i have learned was to use the treatment first (for hard protein), then shampoo (with a sulfate). after that, proceed with a non-protein moisturizing conditioner.

you may only need a mild form of protein and use it every other week. you might have high porous hair? you may need to incorporate protein weekly if you hair gets mushy constantly. do you baggy, leave conditioners in overnight, wet bun/pony, dc longer that product has recommended?
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shortdub78

I am not sure If I am high porosity or not. I did the porosity glass test and my hair floated...but then again I may have not been using a shed piece it may have been breakage. My hair dries pretty quickly (moisture wise) but as far as air drying it takes a super long time and when I do knot outs or braid outs its not dry by morning and I have to hit my head with a cool blast from a air dryer.

I am not sure if my hair is course I dont know how to tell, but its pretty thick sans relaxer (like thick ng).

I do not baggy or leave my hair wet or leave in overnight. Longest I leave my DC in is 3 hours. I wanna make sure I dont over moisturize my hair but I keep havin these problems with using any kind of protein.


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SincerelyBeautiful

I used to only use protein conditioners and glossing shampoo (before I knew the difference) so maybe thats why? I was using protein dense conditioners and dp's (redkin extreme keratin conditioner and lutrasilk cholesterol and jojoba oil conditioner for a good 9 -11 months.

Since I have been on here I have learned the difference and been using more moisturizing conditioners and my hair is so much better. So it could be my hair has more than enough protein?
 
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SincerelyBeautiful said:
I use a mild protein like Aphogee 2 min and I follow that up with a moisturizing deep conditioner and I don't have any issues. I haven't tried a super protein yet so I can't give feedback on that part. However, I do hope you find the cause and how to counteract it :) HHG!!!!!

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This is me. I use Aphogee 2 min every other week, and have never used any protein stronger than Nexxus Keraphix or Mane N Tail Conditioner/Texturizer. I dont seem to have any protein or porosity issues. I regularly use coconut oil and brahmi oil, which give the hair extra strength and elasticity.
 
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hnntrr

Are you doing a moisture treatment directly after your protein treatment?

If I do a 30 minute protein treatment, I would always follow it up w/ a 1 hour moisture deep conditioner.
 
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Yes. I did both times i used protein and I only left it on my hair for maybe 5 minutes, then I did 5 mins with the conditioner. Maybe I just need to do longer moisture treatments when I do protein. I am washing sunday night so If I end up needing to do a protein wash ill probably leave in for 5 mins right before I do my moisture dc (which is usually like an hour-3 hours) and see how that works. Thanks!
 
Does anyone else's scalp feel tender for a while after a fresh relaxer? Got one Thursday afternoon. I blame the burning on me and my darn scratching ...
 
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fresh touchup yesterday. My hair is finally almost back to the length it was this time last yr. The combination of horribly hard water at Camp pendleton and having to pull my hair back in a bun and use gel 5 days a week was causing my hair to die a slow death -.-
 
Girls I need help I'm 16 week post relaxer I'm getting a relaxer in march so I'll be 20 weeks post by then but I noticed when I washed my hair this week I had a lot of tangles this is my 2nd time stretching my relaxer for long
 
ghanagirl23 said:
Girls I need help I'm 16 week post relaxer I'm getting a relaxer in march so I'll be 20 weeks post by then but I noticed when I washed my hair this week I had a lot of tangles this is my 2nd time stretching my relaxer for long
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You should try a moisturizing pre-poo. Do a search..you'll find a few threads on it :)
 
ghanagirl23 said:
Girls I need help I'm 16 week post relaxer I'm getting a relaxer in march so I'll be 20 weeks post by then but I noticed when I washed my hair this week I had a lot of tangles this is my 2nd time stretching my relaxer for long
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Did you have this problem the first time? Did you do anything differently this time? I'm all for stretching relaxers but sometimes that magic number might not be what you want it to be. I tried to do 24 weeks and my hair wasn't having it so I ended it at 22 weeks. Now I know that 18 weeks is my max. But with that being said if I had done a different protein treatment and more moisture my hair probably would've been fine! I think you should definitely try the moisture pre poo and maybe also try puttng diluted shampoo in a applicator bottle and squeezing it in on your scalp to minimize manipulation. The shampoo will run down the length. A few ppl with long har has had great results doing it this way. If all else fails relax! 16weeks is an awesome stretch.
 
BeautifullyExotic said:
Can someone tell me some good moisturizing leave in and moisturizing dc for relaxed hair?
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Nexxus Humectress is an amesome DC! I loved it before I started using natural hair care lines. I'm still searching for my go to moisture DC on the natural/organic side! I would say Silk dreams Vanilla silk but it has protein in it. That DC makes my hair feel like the finest silk. Soft, moisturized hair. I'm going to try Aubrey Organics. Everyone seems to love them some Aubrey! Also I like As I am Leave in. You can get that at sallys.
 
Babygrowth said:
Nexxus Humectress is an amesome DC! I loved it before I started using natural hair care lines. I'm still searching for my go to moisture DC on the natural/organic side! I would say Silk dreams Vanilla silk but it has protein in it. That DC makes my hair feel like the finest silk. Soft, moisturized hair. I'm going to try Aubrey Organics. Everyone seems to love them some Aubrey! Also I like As I am Leave in. You can get that at sallys.
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I dont need anything with protein because my hair dont do to good with a lot of proteins. The less protein the bettrr for.my.hair
 
hnntrr said:
shortdub78

I am not sure If I am high porosity or not. I did the porosity glass test and my hair floated...but then again I may have not been using a shed piece it may have been breakage. My hair dries pretty quickly (moisture wise) but as far as air drying it takes a super long time and when I do knot outs or braid outs its not dry by morning and I have to hit my head with a cool blast from a air dryer.

I am not sure if my hair is course I dont know how to tell, but its pretty thick sans relaxer (like thick ng).

I do not baggy or leave my hair wet or leave in overnight. Longest I leave my DC in is 3 hours. I wanna make sure I dont over moisturize my hair but I keep havin these problems with using any kind of protein.

and
SincerelyBeautiful

I used to only use protein conditioners and glossing shampoo (before I knew the difference) so maybe thats why? I was using protein dense conditioners and dp's (redkin extreme keratin conditioner and lutrasilk cholesterol and jojoba oil conditioner for a good 9 -11 months.

Since I have been on here I have learned the difference and been using more moisturizing conditioners and my hair is so much better. So it could be my hair has more than enough protein?
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hnntrr

You may have enough protein in your hair. Try doing your protein treatments once monthly for a few months and see how that may work for you. Your hair may be protein sensitive. Some members state that they don't use protein at all and are doing fine. May I ask what's your diet like? Are you consuming protein thru your food consumption? If so, this combined with your protein treatments may be the cause of your protein overload.

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Jewell said:
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This is me. I use Aphogee 2 min every other week, and have never used any protein stronger than Nexxus Keraphix or Mane N Tail Conditioner/Texturizer. I dont seem to have any protein or porosity issues. I regularly use coconut oil and brahmi oil, which give the hair extra strength and elasticity.
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It looks like we use the same oils too :)

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ghanagirl23 said:
Girls I need help I'm 16 week post relaxer I'm getting a relaxer in march so I'll be 20 weeks post by then but I noticed when I washed my hair this week I had a lot of tangles this is my 2nd time stretching my relaxer for long
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ghanagirl23

I'm currently 16 weeks post as well. This is also my second time stretching to 20 weeks. I sometimes experience tangles and such depending on how my hair was before I washed or cowashed. Say per instance if I have a Bantu knot out. I try to wash my hair in the shower with my hair going back. I try to work my scalp only and let the water run down the length. When I DC I apply like I would my relaxer then apply to my length. Then rinse and air dry. At about 70% dry I part my hair in sections and slowly detangle from the ends up but careful not to comb thru the new growth and at this time is where I apply my leave in and seal with coconut oil. This method works for me and I have little to no hairs on my comb and when I check they are shed hairs. HTH!!!

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I did a roller set sitting under the dryer now. Its a nice set I'm hoping for good results. I prepoo'd with fsp and ors under the dryer for 10 min, rinsed my hair felt good. I think i messed up by cowashing with joico. I won't next week. Results coming soon.
 
How long should I wait to wash my hair..? I have scabs on my scalp from scrathing my stupid head a day before I got my Touch up. I don't want to disturb the hair, but I reaaaally want to neutralize agAin and chelate and DC
 
The set was good but the end result fail. I'm going to try again tomorrow. Leave in and water only. My new growth is smooth. Loving my rollers
 

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How long should I wait to wash my hair..? I have scabs on my scalp from scrathing my stupid head a day before I got my Touch up. I don't want to disturb the hair, but I reaaaally want to neutralize agAin and chelate and DC
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did that last time too. i put a little bit of olive oil on my burns and they were gone in 2 days. i washed then
 
SincerelyBeautiful said:
hnntrr

You may have enough protein in your hair. Try doing your protein treatments once monthly for a few months and see how that may work for you. Your hair may be protein sensitive. Some members state that they don't use protein at all and are doing fine. May I ask what's your diet like? Are you consuming protein thru your food consumption? If so, this combined with your protein treatments may be the cause of your protein overload.

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I am on a more protein heavy diet and taking medication due to some health issues. So maybe that's it? I have found that one of the organixs conditioners I use has a little protein in it. So I am going to switch to using my extra moisturizing for awhile and see how it goes. Thanks for the tip. I haven't done a protein treatment yet so maybe I will save it for towards the end of the month. My hair feels really great this time around ( I did moisture only ) really soft and fluffy for it being straight.

I'll try that scheduling for protein though :)
 
Babygrowth said:
Did you have this problem the first time? Did you do anything differently this time? I'm all for stretching relaxers but sometimes that magic number might not be what you want it to be. I tried to do 24 weeks and my hair wasn't having it so I ended it at 22 weeks. Now I know that 18 weeks is my max. But with that being said if I had done a different protein treatment and more moisture my hair probably would've been fine! I think you should definitely try the moisture pre poo and maybe also try puttng diluted shampoo in a applicator bottle and squeezing it in on your scalp to minimize manipulation. The shampoo will run down the length. A few ppl with long har has had great results doing it this way. If all else fails relax! 16weeks is an awesome stretch.
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The first time no I didn't have this problem it didn't tangle as it is now um im doing the same thing I stretched was washing my hair for argan oil creme of nature shampoo then mixing the conditioner with argan oil and sitting under the dryer for 30 mins then washing it out...i'm going to try this pre poo after I take out this weave in march thanks ! :)
 
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