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Indigo and henna

Hi Mahalialee,

The indigo won't wear out or fade out. So the commitment to the black hair needs to be a long one.

You can just color the new growth or all of your hair on followup applications. I sometimes will mix 1/4 henna to 3/4 indigo...and sometimes 50/50 depending on the color results I want...but mainly so that I am conditioning and coloring my hair black at the same time. The indigo will provide color but no conditioning properties in it. The way I put the paste on, there is no such thing as just doing the new growth...:-) But I am sure others will be able to do that just fine.

There are a lot of ways to play with the henna and indigo to effect color. When I do the two step application process, because I want to take care of the white hair growing in, I use only henna for the first step. Then I do one of the following depending upon the effect I am after:

1. Black hair outcome...mix the indigo with a bit of lotus powder and apply. You could use a neutral henna as well.

2. Black hair outcome...mix the indigo with 1/4 henna powder.

3. Dark brown with a hint of red highlights and to make the rest of the hair a softer black...mix 1/2 henna to 1/2 indigo.

Just a reminder...use the moisturizers after each application and as a daily moisturizer in between applications. The indigo colors but does not condition at all. That is why I like to sometimes mix it with the henna or lotus in order to get both coloring and conditioning.

Another variation on the henna and indigo thing that will alter the black hair caused by the indigo...apply henna to the black hair to get to the more burgundy colors. Depending upon the person, the outcomes with henna and indigo can be blue black, black, burgundy black and a purplish black.

Hope this helps.

HennaJoy
 
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Hi Cook52,

Sorry for just seeing your question and providing a response.

Thanks Napptural for providing information needed.

The lotus powder will strengthen your hair and help to repair it. You should see a reduction or lack of hair loss when you use it.

It sounds to me like you might also try a deep oil treatment on your hair both prior to and after using the lotus powder. You may also want to add some oils to your lotus powder. If your hair is wanting and needing the oils, you may want to try them as moisturizers along with using the lotus powder. Sounds like first thing you want is to stop the breakage and provide some more strength and elasticity to your hair. A combination of the lotus powder and the oils will help.

I have some specialty oils coming in next week. I got them specifically because of some of the dryness and brittleness and breakage some of the ladies here have experienced and spoken concerning. Three oils I already use and believe in along with coconut oil are baobab, marula and tamanu oils. The herbal oils I had developed and have coming in are a combination of herbal oils that will help restore the hair and scalp, foster growth, create shine, help the oils penetrate better, make the hair softer, strengthen the hair. I will let folks know when they arrive in case anyone is interested. One can be used for deep conditioning and daily use. Another for deep conditioning primarily though it could be used daily as well. And one is meant to address specific needs of the hair when it is fragile.

What I wanted was a henna/lotus powder/neutral henna companion oil for moisturizing the hair. And one that can be used when you want to skip a henna et. al. treatment too. These are not a henna et. al., substitute. Just wanted something that would address the same issues differently and also serve as a companion to the powders.

While I like the oils that I have been using, these others have some other properties that I thought might be good to have in one oil treatment.

If you are going to try the lotus powder, email me also concerning the oils...
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Please update concerning what is occuring with your hair now. Thanks.

HennaJoy
 
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I used the Lotus Powder last weekend. I mixed it with hot water and let it sit for an hour. I left it in overnight and rinsed it out the next day. I conditioned with Elucence Moisture Balancing Conditioner afterwards. Actually, I used it to try to get more of the grit out of my hair too. My hair definitely felt stronger after using the lotus powder.
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Hi HennaJoy - Thanks for replying to my post, and thanks again Naptural. I am still new to all of this and this may sound like a dumb question to you, but when I went to this site: http://www.everydayhenna.com/ I felt lost
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I couldn't find any reference to lotus powder and all references to henna were for dying the hair. I would like to try both, but I don't want to dye my hair. I want to use the neutral henna. Maybe it was right in front of my face and I didn't see it - but, I'd like to find the lotus powder and henna to try.

I had my last perm in August 2002 and since that time my hair has grown approximately three and a half to four inches. I added the extension to give my hair a rest from manipulation on a constant basis. I don't think I will try extensions again. The amount of hair that came out of my hair scared me
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I still have a lot of new growth, my hair is very thick, and now I'm wearing a drawstring poney tail. I don't want to put any heat on my hair any time soon, but hopefully with the lotus powder and henna, the coil will relax a bit and make pulling into a ponytail easier. Girl, if you had felt my hair after I took the extensions out you would have thought I didn't keep my hair moist in those three weeks
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With the extions, I moisturized my hair with Scurl daily, condition-washed my hair twice a week, and used Infusium 32 (diluted) to condition after the wash. I've decided never again to braid or twist my hair in small sections/plaits again. Somebody told me that the amount of hair that came out is the amount of hair I would probably have lost in that 3 week span anyway. I DON'T THINK SO!
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Since I've been taking better care of my hair. I loose very little hair, my hair is stronger, and the texture was never brittle (like after the extensions).

Any help you can give me is greatly appreciated. And thank you for the valuable information you have already provided.

Do you have a website? I have been slowly making my way through the posts looking for a reference to it, but haven't found it yet.
 
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For the lotus powder plus...
Go to the following section and then from there scroll all the way down to the bottom of that page...

EveryDay Mehndi Herbal Products for Health and Beauty...
 
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I have found that cap steaming my hair in a dry wrap really conditions and moisturizes my hair. I want to make sure that my hair does not dry out. It's something I did in the past and rarely did anymore. My hair was feeling a bit stiff and oil and water and conditioner was not giving me the results I wanted at this time. So I did my trusty silk wrap and after the first time, good, second time better. It moisturized my hair so well that I was able to section and brush and my hair was strong but so nice and soft and no more stiffness.
Method: I did a dry wrap on my hair first,(yes, wrapping my hair around my head in a wrap style)
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then I sprayed my hair with my leave in moisturizer that I make with purified water, herbs, and oils ( castor, olive, emu, almond, avocado) then covered the wrapped (style) hair with a silk or satin or polyester scarf and covered it with a plastic cap and left it like that for a few hours, removed the plastic cap and replaced it with and additional scarf. Left both scarves on till hair was dry. Took down the wrap and voila! Right now the hair is t-i-g-h-t! and the ends are smooth and supple I plan to do this at least twice a week so that when I do my next henna my hair will not be dry or brittle/stiff. I find that sometimes you have to assist the oils to soften the hair. If you are experiencing any dryness, this is excellent. And the best part, your hair comes out smooth and straight!!!!!!!!! no shrinkage!!!!! if you let if dry completely. It looks freshly permed.
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I remember you posting this a while back. I know when I just wrap and mist I get good results...so this must be da bomb! I'm gonna do this the next time I need more curl removed from my rollerset and I want my hair really sleek. I'll let you know how it comes out...
Thanks a bunch!
 
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HENNAJOY! I would like to use the Tamanu oil. what do I do or what is the best way to get maximmum benefits of this oil? Do I use it straight? Mix it with ????oils? and how often should I use it and exactly when is the best time? Before or after the henna or indigo, or with the lotus powder? Should I use it with heat? How much should I use? So much to learn.Thank You. Bonjour.
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Hey Mahailee, I 've used the tamanu oil extremely moisturing i got mine from fnwl,sorry for butting in, I am sure Hennajoy can give more input, nice to hear from you, have you tried the milk and henna? see ya
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Hi Mahalialee4,

Actually you can use the Tamanu oil in any of the ways you describe. My preference and I believe most benefit is obtained by using it straight. I massage my scalp with it...rub it onto and massage into new growth...and rub a bit through the hair at night time as part of my night time hair routine. I find that it really softens all of the hair and can help with the puffiness sometimes presented with new growth. A little goes a long way. I like this one as a leave in and you can use it in combination with other oils.

Rub some in at the roots of the hair and smooth through the hair. Let me know if you feel the difference in your hair. I feel the difference right away.
 
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BillieGirl: Hi yourself. I have not tried the milk and henna yet, but I will try it with the lotus powder. I am going to warm the milk first though. That will not be for a couple of weeks though. Thanks for the input on the oil.
HennaJoy: Does that henna ever blend and cover smoothly! I was so impressed with the texture. I did the henna and indigo thing but I did not get the blue black. My hair has a tendency to redness and I have some grey strands that insist on staying red copper. Anyway it is reddish black so, what is a girl to do? If I do it the next time with a natural no color henna or lotus powder and indigo, will it get darker (after successive applications?) It definitely is darker this time, but I really want to take it to the max ya know. I want it radically black! Will using a darker henna with indigo eliminate some of this red, sort of like a "drabber effect"? Should I move into the "brown tone hennas and work my way toward blue black or will the indigo work on the browner hennas to get to a deep black and tone down the redness in the strands? Mind you, the hair looks so healthy, thickkkkk!!!! like I love it. Everything mixed up so well, and what a difference between the hennas you have and the ones I have tried to date. There is no comparison and I am so glad that I ordered. I made some hair pomade and I put all the Tamanu oil in there, but next time I will use it straight as suggested as well, and will let you know how it turns out. I tried to read about all the new oils, but it would not come up on the site when I moused that section. It went to something else. Am I missing something? Or is it a site prob.? I am so excited at all these new discoveries. I am very pleased with the henna quality and performance.
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Talk to you soon. Bonjour.
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Hi HennaJoy, I received my shipment of Lotus Powder Plus and Crown and Glory Lotus Powder. I used it on May 2 by adding luke warm water to 4 tablespoons full. I can say that I loved the consistency of my hair. Thank you so very, very much. You have a good produce ! I kept the Lotus Powder Plus in my hair over night and rinsed it out the next day. Then I washed my hair with Clairol Herbal Essences shampoo. I then gave myself a hot oil treatment with jojoba and lavender oils. I washed my hair again and conditioned with Infusium 23 leave in conditioner. I braided my hair and the next day I took the braids out. My hair is sooo soft and manageable. I used it again last night, but this time I made a tea of the Lotus Powder Plus (8 oz) and poured in on my hair before shampooing it. I left in in my hair for 45 minutes. I washed my hair with Clairol Herbal Essences and conditioned with Infusium 23 leave-in. I braided my hair while it was wet, then separated each individual braid and sprayed Luster's S-Curl on my hair (for moisture). I am just amazed at how I can manage this 'nappy' hair of mine. One thing that I didn't mention earlier is that I have grey hair. Some of the grey hair is not brown and some is still gray. I don't think it is really, really noticable, but my best friend noticed it.

I am so busy loving my hair right now, that is NOT a concern right now, but if you can shed some light on how to get the color even, that would be great.

Again, thank you so very, very much HennaJoy for making this fine product available to me.
 
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Hennajoy,

Thank you! Thank you!

First of all, my mail smelled wonderful that day. Secondly, what is the name of the soap? I have to buy a larger bar.

Thirdly, I enjoyed my experience thouroughly. Here's what I did:
5 Drops of Peppermint
5 Drops of Lavender
5 Drops of Ylang Ylang
5 Drops of Rosemary
1/2 tbs of Tamanu Oil
1/4 c EVOO
3tbs Amla Oil
8 oz of Hot Water
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Mixed all of the above in a glass bowl, then, used
a funnel to pour into an applicator bottle. Let cool
for about 5 min. Used applicator tip to cover scalp
w/mixture, then, used the rest to saturate strands.
Covered with Plastic Cap for 1hour.
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Rinsed completely with warm water.
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Followed by Keracare Humecto.
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Profective Leave In
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My special oil blend
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QP Mango Butter on Ends Only
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Rollerset

Awesome! I got so many compliments on my hair. I could tell a difference in the strength of my hair as soon as I rinsed the mix from my hair. This will definitely be a staple in my regimen.

Thanks Again.
TsAngel

P.S. I'd like to purchase the Tamanu Oil.
 
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Hi Cook52,

I am really glad to hear about your positive results. That makes me happy too..
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The lotus powder products won't color your hair. You might want to try one of the herbal/henna hair colors for coloring the gray. You will want either the brown or dark brown. That should do it for you. Then alternate your herbal/henna for coloring with your Lotus Powder Plus or Crown & Glory. You won't need to use the henna for coloring until you have new growth that you want to color also.

Thanks for the feedback...
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First of all, my mail smelled wonderful that day.

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Doesn't it smell wonderful?!
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I have a box at a Mailboxes, Etc. where I receive all my packages. All the employees wanted to know what was smelling so good in the box! They thought I'd ordered some perfume and it had leaked out or something.
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I ordered some Lotus Powder to share with my cousin. But I got greedy and kept it all for myself. She forgot all about it and I haven't reminded her...
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Hi TsAngel,

I am so glad this worked out so well for you. Thanks for sharing your information with others.

I truly appreciate the feedback comments.

Unfortunately, I don't know exactly which soap that was that I sent to you as a sample. My guess is that it was either the rose/patchouli/orange, or the patchouli/nag champa/jasmine...each with other herbs. If it was the light colored one it was the rose/patchouli/orange. If it was more of a light brownish, it was the patchouli/nag champa/jasmine. I am very glad that you liked it though.

Take care.

HennaJoy
 
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Hi Mahalialee4,

Since I emailed you concerning most of your post, I'll just say thank you for your comments and feedback. And that I am glad that you experienced the difference in the various hennas. It does make quite a difference.

You can use the indigo with the lotus powder and therefore not have the natural henna creating more red since your hair seems to like that red waaaaaay to much...
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You have no idea how many people would find that hair that holds on to those reds simply to die for. But I do know what you mean when you want black and the red wants to try to hold on. The repeated applications with the indigo will take care of that. But you can also add some of the indigo or some of the black herbal/henna to the natural henna to drab it out as you suggested. No problem with that at all. In fact that will work quite nicely.

Let me know if my email helped some.

Take care.

HennaJoy
 
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HennaJoy: Thank you again and again. All my fears are cleared up. I emailed you back. I froze the left over henna and indigo separately of course, so that when it is touch up time I will not have to mix up a new batch. Really trying to think ahead. Also I am doing up a brew of black choke cherry berries and beet juice to use half for a sealing rinse (soaked in vinegar)...plus a tsp of indigo powder to darken the color: this should bring the liquid to a blue black or close. The other half of the chokecherry beet juice will be steeped in purified water as a liquid base for my Lotus Root Powder. I will be adding a tsp of the mixed indigo to it, so that it will be my drabber to gradually darken my hair up and get rid of the red and lighter natural streaks and the copper highlights. Beet juice has a lot of iron in it and this will help the process along. Like a natural mordant. As my hair grows in and I have a lot of black hair as a back drop, I will allow my natural color to come in again to create the effect I was telling you about before. But I must have the black canvas first.
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One thing that I didn't mention earlier is that I have grey hair. Some of the grey hair is not brown and some is still gray. I don't think it is really, really noticable, but my best friend noticed it.

I am so busy loving my hair right now, that is NOT a concern right now, but if you can shed some light on how to get the color even, that would be great.

Again, thank you so very, very much HennaJoy for making this fine product available to me.

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What I meant to say is that some of the grey hair is 'now brown' and some is gray after using the Lotus Powder Plus. And HennaJoy, your response is that Lotus Powder doesn't color the hair.....
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. The package sasy Lotus Powder Plus, 100% Natural and 100% Pure. Yet some of my gray hair is brown
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Does the Hennalucent actually straighten the hair or does it just soften it a bit? If it does straighten it, is there any elasticity in the hair afterwards? Can someone use Hennalucent to ween themselves from a perm?
So many questions
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Hi Cook52,

I can only take a guess at this since I've never experienced or gotten any feedback before about altered color due to the Lotus Powder Plus.

When you made tea brew with the Lotus Powder, did you actually use a tea or herbs that made a brown tea broth. Or was it just plain water added to the Lotus Powder? Teas can shift the color on some people's white hair that takes color easily, but that should be temporary. And if your white hair easily takes color, Lotus Powder Plus is made up of various herbs and may have imparted some coloring to your hair. My white hair does not take color easily so I have never experienced this. I can just say that coloring white hair brown is not something that typically happens with the Lotus Powder Plus.

On the label is:
Lotus Powder Plus
100% Natural
100% Pure

That is to indicate that there are no synthetics or chemicals in the product and that it is a 100% natural and purely herbal product.

I don't know of anything else that should cause a change in coloring of the white. What I am wondering about is the fact that some of the hair turned brownish and some remained white. If all of the ingredients are evenly distributed in the paste and then the paste evenly distributed throughout the hair, if the coloring was caused by the paste, wouldn't all of the white hair have changed colors. That is just me thinking out loud. Because I am really just puzzled. But if you are wanting the white to all be brown, I would just suggest repeating exactly what you did. I would imagine that eventually all of the white will become brown. Or if this is just temporary due to something like tea, when you wash your hair, it should all even back out to white.

Wish I had a better response for you. I am glad that overall your experience was a good one. Now you have given me a mystery to chew on until I can come up with an answer...
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Take care and let me know if you have any more thoughts on this.

HennaJoy
 
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HennaJoy, I've been thinking about this also. When I made the tea, I used 'tap water' that I heated up and then added a tablespoon of Lotus Powder Plus. Maybe I should have used 'distilled water'. Maybe I didn't rinse all of it out of my hair before washing ??? I am still very, very pleased with the feel and managability of my hair. It feels so healthy, I don't have as much shrinkage. I've already decided this is a MUST to my hair regime ! Another plus to the Lotus Powder Plus, I don't experience as much hair breakage in my comb. I STILL SAY YOU HAVE A GREAT PRODUCT, AND I WILL CONTINUE TO USE IT.
 
Hi all,
new member here and wow you guys know your stuff!!!!

I have had braids for 6 months and will be relaxing my hair in 2 weeks, I have noticed some gray hairs and would like to cover them, so I'm thinking henna hair color will be good? Don't know too much about it but I do know it's veggie based so that should be good right?

Any info on this will help.

Thanks
 
HennaJoy: Okay, I finally got onto your site. I had to go through some linking from other sites on Planet Search. Anyway, before I place my order, I would like to know what oils you have that do not have any scent added to it? I am interested in some of the hair softening ones but I really have to be careful. Asthma. Also have to be careful with nuts. I have used the Tamanu oil but only in the hair ends pomade I made up, but I would be reluctant to rub it into my scalp or wear it throughout my hair because I read on the net that if you have a nut allergy be cautious with this one. Now I use pure African Shea Butter without a problem, Sweet Almond, Apricot, Avocado, Castor Oil,etc. (I would love to get the Black Haitian or Black Jamaican Castor oil). Do you carry that one, or have access to that one? (for the scalp).
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How heavily scented is the Camellia Oil or the Baobob and Henna Oil? Thank you. Bonjour.
 
Hi Debyjay,

You can use 100% natural henna powder on natural or permed hair. When selecting your henna product make sure that you have a 100% natural henna product. There is another thread started by Chynnamonk (sp)regarding her positive experience with 100% natural henna powder and an herbal/henna powder made with 100% natural henna powder with relaxed hair. You may want to look that up and confer with her as well.

100% natural henna will only color your hair shades of red. However, a herbal/henna that is a mixture of 100% natural henna powder and a natural dye (the henna for the conditioning benefits and the natural dye for the coloring) will allow you other color selections.

Hope this helps.

HennaJoy
 
Hi Mahalialee4,

I am editing this response since I wrote the first one on the run.

In terms of the scents of the oils/extracts, none have scent added to them. Like most natural things, they do each have their own faint natural scents. The scent is from the one herb itself or from the combination of herbs. It is hard to find anything that is totally scent free. But there are no scents added to any of these.

These are probably better explained and described as concentrated herbal extracts rather than oils. So each one used is a 100% pure and natural extract. None of the products have any chemicals or synthetics or carriers or fragrance oils added in. They are as concentrated as any 100% pure and natural essential oil. The ones chosen are safe for use directly on the skin and hair and do not have to be diluted. Though a carrier or fixed oil or other product can be mixed with them. These products are most effective when used straight from the bottle and that would be my recommendation. A little of each goes a long way. But there is no problem with stretching them with a carrier or other product. Or with using them to provide another benefit to another product.

The way these extracts are different from essential oils (that tend to have a very concentrated scent)is that the odors of the specific herbal extracts used is not as pervasive as the odors of most essential oils and that while many essential oils require dilution to be used safely on skin, these particular herbal extracts can be safely used. The Hair Growth Oil contains some rosemary that has been diluted to a safe consistency with the other herbal extracts. The rosemary is not recommended for use for expectant women. In a couple of days there will be the option of the Hair Growth Oils on the website...one with Rosemary...the other with Lavender. The one with Lavender can be used by anyone including expectant mothers and the one I would recommend for use on very young children.

The Hair Growth Oils have more detectible odor than the other oils. It is a pleasant odor. However, if you have a real sensitivity to odors, you would want to know that this product has more of a odor than the others...though not a heavy odor at all.

Each of the herbal extracts has its own scent/odor. The comparison I would make is, that I consider the scent/odor of pure African Shea Butter and Castor Oil to be strong odors. By comparison, the herbal extracts scent is not strong like the pure African Shea Butter or the castor oil. But as I said, it is rare to find something with absolutely no odor that can not be detected. If I understand your statement/question, you are concerned primarily with heavy odors and anything added just for scent. Rest assured there is nothing in any of these products except the herbal extracts themselves. So any scents/odors detected are from the extracts and not additives. And I don't find any of them to have strong/heavy odors. But there is always the option of dilution with something with minimal scent like coconut oils. I would just recommend consideration regarding the change in consistency when mixing with another product or oil. Whatever they are added to will change the way they make the hair feel and manage.

I personally would not describe any of these extracts as having a strong scent. And would actually describe them as having a faint scent. But I say that in the context of knowing that every nose is different. And what is strong to one person is not strong to another and what is pleasant to one person is not pleasant to another. My description regarding each of the extracts/products is that in reference to scent, they all fall within the faint to very mild range.

The Tamanu, like some other oils have a nutty like scent. The Tamanu smells very much like butter pecan ice cream or even a bit maple scented to me. It is derived from nuts and should be avoided if you have an allergy to nuts or nut products. But the nutty like scent of some oils doesn't indicate that they are a derivative of nuts. Like the Baobab oil is derived from the seeds of the Baobab tree...but it has a very very faint scent that I would best describe as nut like for want of a better descriptor. The other extracts have odors I would describe as herbal in nature...which is hard to describe. If you think of what the smell of the herb (not the essential oils) chamomille or patchouli or marshmellow root etc. are like, that is what I mean by herbal smelling when I describe the other herbal extract products...subtle and earthy...similar to many herbal teas.

Hmmmmmmmmmm...how heavily scented these oils are? They have no scent added. I would consider their natural odors very faint on a scale where I would consider pure Shea and castor oil or cod liver oil or jojoba oils to be very heavy and distinctive.

I will have some information for you in a couple of days pertaining to one of the oils you asked about. The Camella and Baobab are included in the description above.

Thanks for the info and reminder concerning the allergies related to the Tamanu. I have actually used your feedback and sent a revision for the website related to some of the descriptions to make them more informative as well as to provide the warning related to Tamanu and allergies.

Hope this helps and provides clarity. If you have other questions, let me know.

I also saw your posts regarding difficulty accessing my website. I will try to be more mindful and provide a link to the website for the convenience of those who may be interested.

HennaJoy
EveryDay Mehndi...for the henna life!!!
 
I tried the Lotus Powder: Straight...no chaser! Just Lotus Powder, purified water and 1/2 tsp of Emu Oil. My hair was definitely stronger feeling and looking, it loosened I followed with a second treatment of Lotus Powder and Indigo, because I am trying to drab out my hair. It still feels good. I think after a few more times, my hair will be awesome. It is necessary for me to add moisture to my hair of course and oil but not in the amounts that I was using before. I have been doing a few treatments back to back because I am working toward blue black hair, so I do not think I will have the full value and impact of the Lotus Powder until I have achieved my desired coloring and am on a Lotus Maintenance. I am really happy with the results so far.
 
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