Oprah just got weave checked by Chris Rock

[theprototype]

Here are some clips for folks who haven't seen any of it:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhLSmqU2nSG5gxyMo9

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhQxq4eWFF8646tW6E

*** CLIP FROM THE AFTERSHOW ***
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZMlGxUV-vo

 

[CurleeDST]

The supermodel Wek is.

Again, with the last statement - it is the limitation we put on ourselves. If you think you can - YOU CAN!

Folks told me I had to perm or wig up my hair to get a job. NONSENSE - I continue to wear my hair natural BIG or short and never had a problem getting a man.

My hubby put it like this - perhaps women walk with more confidence when they have weaves up in their head. If you feel better about yourself you exude certain positivity which attracts others to you. If wearing your hair short or natural makes you uncomfortable - folks can sense that and may not be as attracted.

It is all about what you project confidence or lack thereof. And THAT may actually be what is turning guys off moreso than a particular hair length.

Men like to say they don't care...and I believe them...most of them consciously don't care. But when you look at their actions, they do care. Nappy hair is not considered desirable by men and if they have their choice they pick straight and long almost every single time.

I bet you Solange won't be making it to the top of the Maxim 100 list or any other list of the sort, regardless of how gorgeous her face looks.

 

[BlackMasterPiece]

Here are some clips for folks who haven't seen any of it:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhLSmqU2nSG5gxyMo9

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhQxq4eWFF8646tW6E

*** CLIP FROM THE AFTERSHOW ***
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZMlGxUV-vo

FINALLY!! Non spammy actual clips of the eppy!! ThankYouThankYou THANK YOUUUU!!!! I have no tv over here on campus yet so I'm lappin this up

Thanks again!!

 

[CurlyMoo]

http://www.watchoprahshow.info/2009/9302009-girl-talk-good-hair-chris-rock

This link was posted in the other thread talking about the show, that might work for you.
If not, it might be posted on youtube later.

Link doesn't work. Survy scam! Then the video is only 10 minutes of a looped trailer.

 

[Daughter]

This is my perspective - we women place this burden on OURSELVES! Stop blaming the men - many of them have said time and time again they do NOT care but WE do. We do our hair for other women NOT the men so the sooner we are honest with ourselves the better.

And another thing - AA women - stop being so self conscious about the big hair and the naps! Seriously...no one cares more than WE do. So let me just say this - we can wear our naps to work and not really worry b/c no one would really care or notice! Trust me - I have done it for well over 13 years and have climbed the corporate ladder.

The bigger I make it the more compliments I get at work from the men and women (regardless of race). So we need to be honest w/ ourselves --- many of us have not grown comfortable w/ the naps so we project that on others and claim THEY will not be comfortable if we wore our naps out in public when really it is our own insecurity preventing us from doing it. Stop blaming others and take responsibility for your true feelings. It's ok really!

And young girls from ALL RACES are teased b/c it is simply human nature. Whether it be about hair, pee'ing in the bed, long stickly legs or looking like a peacock - women of all races are teased - why do black women feel we have cornered the market on being teased about our hair? Can someone say bowl cut? Who wouldn't clown that look on ANY kid who wore it?

So I think Chris Rock was DEAD ON. He said it best when he mentioned that black men aren't focusing as much on the hair (as long as your face is pretty) and you have a rump shaker!

My husband concurred (and he met me with boy short natural hair Solange's length).

This a small picture but you get the gist:

In the end the message was right on - do YOU and be happy with it!

Hi CurleeDST! I get what you mean about not letting negativity get you down. I've personally not had grief with my hair at work, and I am happily married to a man who has no problem with my hair. But I know of too many men who prefer "good hair", that is anything but type 4 to say that it's not a real concern for many black women. I'm not putting ALL of the blame on black men; I've heard too many black women say ignorant things about black hair, but just looking at your average music video, the object of desire doesn't usually have nappy hair (that's a whole nother topic, lol).

Black men aren't the only reason why some resort to straightening or weaves, but they are a factor. I have two friends who have had their hair natural as long as I have recently relaxed their hair and they openly told me that their potential suitor prefers straight hair. That's wrong on too many levels IMO!

Yes all people get teased, my point was whether the teasing was of a racial phenotype, which type 4 hair of course, is. Yes, there is a weird obsession with some white women being blonde, but it doesn't run as deep as the pathology of the "good hair/bad hair" mentality.

 

[theAlist]

ABSOLUTELY!!! If we want more wiggle room in our everyday lives and/or the standard of beauty that our friends, relatives (male and female), and boyfriends/lovers/husbands are holding us up to, we have to have our voices/sentiments heard in show-business! We have to "vote" with our wallets! Solange was willing to step away from the pack and show her natural self publicly. If we want to see more of this, Solange MUST be supported! ... Beyond that, the girl is actually TALENTED! Ideally, the Solange/India/Jill Scott/Badu/Lauryn styles and/or celebrities will eclipse the current "weave mafia" monopoly that seems to be at play ... Or at least rival it!

Shoot, the problem is that these little boys are starting to hold EVERY woman to the beauty standards of the women (illusions) they see in the media! As they grow into men, many of them may come to unquestioningly prefer that long, straight hair (weaves/illusions) that they grew up salivating over (and/or saw their female relatives bending over backwards to achieve). It's a viscous cycle that the beauty industry is using to its advantage. The standards are getting higher and higher. You can see how bad/intense it's gotten when WHITE women, the basic physical type around which the American beauty standard was based, have to go through significant financial/temporal gyrations to get their hair to achieve the 'look'. Just think about what Afro-textured heads must have to do on TOP of that! It has to stop/slow down somewhere...

I initially disagreed with Chris's attempt to place responsibility for this "hair issue" on (black) women's laps. After all, it's clear that (black) men play a strong role in this. But upon reflection, I suspect that his ultimate point may be true on some level. Yes, men hold their current opinions, but the ultimate call as to when all of this is going to stop/slow down may indeed be in the hands of women and/or the 'hands that rock the cradles' (sorry moms, one more thing to feel responsible/guilty for -- the mammalian female's dilemma is too much power/influence over her YOUNG! )...

The bottom line is this: Regardless of race, when faced with a) a FEMALE with a TWA, or b) a MALE with "beautiful" hair flowing down his back, the choice, for a heterosexual male is (by definition) BEYOND obvious ... Men are stronger/more resilient than we think/let them be in these matters. We just don't see that much because, 9 times out of 10, we agree with (and/or are MORE invested in) the beauty standard OURSELVES (black women AND white)! After all, even though men see them/find them attractive too, those women in the Pantene commercials are clearly talking directly to women, not men...

My mom is a wonderful hard working loving woman....BUT I saw her and my dad's (and my dad's side of the family) true colors when I cut my hair and went natural even going as low as calling me names

On the other hand my moms side of the family (who give me grief about everything) LOOOOVED it. I don't know...all those reactions were just weird and I live with my parents so in order to keep the peace and me respectful (yes I had lost all respect for them telling me I look stupid like a slave and I'll never get a man; and I was mouthing off back to them) I decided to relax. I went and got the most expensive relaxer at the most expensive salon b/c my dad, who seriously asked me how can my hair grow if its nappy, jumped up and said he would pay for it b/c he was so happy I was getting one.

Now they want to know what I did to make my hair "grow" and be bouncy and thick even getting a little jealous

I just stay away from the hair topics because I lose all respect for my family, who have accomplished a lot and are smart hard working people. Believing that there is "good hair" yes they believe that sigh anyway lol I'm done venting...been holding that in for a while lol