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Ms_Twana said:Okay, break this down for me ladies. What EXACTLY is the difference between 3c and 4a??? Both talk about tight curls. And I've seen ladies talk about 4c a couple of times. What is that???
FlowerHair said:OK, now I'm confused. I would say the woman in the red top has 4a hair because it's big on top and grows out, not down.
I thought 3b and c hair grows downwards.
I would type the other woman as a 3b.
Confusionerplexed
currygyal said:What if your hair grows down and out? LOL.
See it's not clear to me if the womans hair actually grows like that or if that is how they styled it for the picture...because her strands look 3c. The other girls looks like a 3a/b mix.
Ms_Twana said:This is true. I didn't think about that.
Ms_Twana said:It did say that the stylist wanted to "play her hair up."
When Fadya AlBakry came to the shoot, her 4a hair was pulled back into a tight ponytail. Fitzpatrick wanted to play up her incredible texture. He sprayed it with Devacurl Set it Free "which does exactly what it says it does." Then he diffused it to create maximum volume and to highlight individual pieces.
dynamic1 said:NC did contradict their own definition of 3c by putting Fadya's hair in the 4a category. But her hair is beautiful whatever the type!
Here is their definition
"Type 3C, is hair with tight curls in corkscrews. The curls can be either kinky, or very tightly curled, with lots and lots of strands densely packed together. Some people refer to this as "big hair." Getting this type of hair to blowdry straight is more challenging than for 3A or 3B, but it usually can be done. This includes those with very tight curls but finer hair, as well as coarser hair. 3C has really really tight curls, like pencil or straw circumference. 3B is like sidewalk chalk or salt shaker circumference, and 4A is like coffee stirrer circumference."
dynamic1 said:NC did contradict their own definition of 3c by putting Fadya's hair in the 4a category. But her hair is beautiful whatever the type!
currygyal said:Excuse me Dynamic! Where is your hair album? Your hair is beautiful!
Ms_Twana said:Okay darnit, as soon as I think I've got it, someone gives another perspective!!!!![]()
Wow, now I see why some ladies don't "type" their hair!!!![]()
caligirl said:Type 4 hair is coarse whereas type 3 hair has a more silky feel. For example, 3c hair might have really tiny coils, but still be very silky and easy to slick down into a puff. But 4a hair might require the scarf trick to get it to lay down because its more coarse.
Pokahontas said:On NP this lady is typed as being a 3c but she definitely looks 3a/b to me. I'm not seeing where they are getting the 3c from at all *confused*.![]()
bmoreflyygirl said:Exactly.MsTwana you're probably a 4a with some 3c parts. Oh and another thing, the weight of your relaxed ends could be stretching the curl pattern out some. When you cut them off, your hair is going to curl up more.
LocksOfLuV said:I am a 4b with coils EVERYWHERE. My hair grows in little coils but it isn't soft it is VERY coarse. Even though people say only type 3s have coils i refuse to believe this hair on this hear head is any type 3.
LocksOfLuV said:I am a 4b with coils EVERYWHERE. My hair grows in little coils but it isn't soft it is VERY coarse. Even though people say only type 3s have coils i refuse to believe this hair on this hear head is any type 3.
Cheleigh said:From Ouidad.com
Fine
The biggest surprise our clients find out about their hair is that almost 99% of them have baby fine locks. Curly hair is often fine and quite delicate— no matter how voluminous or tightly spiraled. People frequently mistake density for coarseness, which leads to improper and harsh treatment.
Kinky
These tiny ringlets of an inch or less in diameter are probably the most fragile of all three categories. Like medium curls, the tightly coiled shape leaves the cuticle susceptible to dryness and damage from heat styling, chemical processes, the sun, pollution and artificial air. Tight curls fall into several patterns. When stretched out, you may see an "S" shape, a loose, reverse "S" like a "Z" or both. The looser the curl pattern the more moisture the hair has retained— although it's never enough. Hair in this category is often chemically straightened or softened which demands extra care and maintenance.
Ms_Twana said:Okay, now I'm REALLY confused. The ONE thing that I was SURE about was the fact that 4b didn't curl, it has waves. I thought that was the sure distinction between 4a and 4b. So you're saying you consider yourself a 4b with coils???
Ms_Twana said:Okay, I'm about to open another can of worms. What exactly is the definition of kinky and coarse?? And how do you know if your strands are densely packed together??
I have coffee stirrer sized coils (I think I've said that a million times now, SORRY), yet my newgrowth is soft and shines a lot more than my relaxed hair. (And that could be because of the chemicals). And I have sections that are "baby hair" fine. I haven't had any issues with managing my newgrowth as of yet. It's soft to comb through. So what texture does that make it?? And what is the difference between shine and sheen?? Cuz I don't get that either.
Basically, I think I have the typing thing down when it comes to the way it curls. Now I trying to figure out my texture. And for those that DO use Andre's system, are you determining you hair type off curls alone??
EMJazzy said:I think that has something to do with how porous your hair is and how much the cuticle naturally lays down. "Shiny" hair tends to stay wet longer (less porous) and "hair with Sheen" tends to dry faster (more porous).
Somebody please correct me if I explained this wrong.![]()
LocksOfLuV said:Yep,absolutely. I consider myself a 4b with coils. If yall seen this coarse stuff, yall would too.It isn't soft or silky like type 3s and it is extremely dry.