Non-Mainstream Christianity

divya

divya

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This is an informational thread for those who may like to voice their beliefs and views, which are not typical of the mainstream. Here are a few and feel free to add more:

1. Salvation is a gift, than can be accepted or rejected at any point in life. Therefore, one is not once saved always saved. John 3:16.

2. Hell translates to the grave in most cases in the Hebrew and Greek. It is not a place that exists in the present, nor where people burn endlessly. The lake of fire will be created in the end and will burn out leaving nothing. Ecclesiastes 9; Revelation 20; Malachi 4:1.

3. The Ten Commandments are for us to follow today - all of them as stated in Exodus. Matthew 5:17-18

4. The Biblical health laws are relevant for us to day and not nailed to the cross as the ordinances (sacrificial and ceremonial law). Leviticus 11; Deuteronomy 14; Colossians 2;

5. Not only those who profess Christianity will be in heaven. Romans 2

I hope this is helpful so that people can gain more exposure to the differing views within Christianity, if necessary, and so that people may ask rather than assume what others believe. Additionally, may all of us be encouraged to keep the faith! :yep:
 
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6. Christmas and Easter are not Christian holidays, at least in origin.

7. When you die, you don't go straight to heaven. Righteous dead wait until the Second Coming of Christ, and the wicked until after the 1000 years. 1 Thess 4:16-17; Rev. 20.


ETA: Initially, this list was going to include everything added in the thread. However, seem like we are sharing our convictions. So I'll do a few alterations of this and let this reflect a few of mine.
 
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Revelation 12:17 (New American Standard Bible)

17So the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went off to (A)make war with the rest of her (B)children, who (C)keep the commandments of God and (D)hold to the testimony of Jesus.

Where does it say only 9 commandments?
Devil is coming after those who keep the commandments and hold to the testimony of Jesus.
 
I'm very glad you posted this! I grew up in a household where our beliefs where the ones you listed. It was (and still is) rough, because I never attended an actual church, but rather did bible study at home (taught by my mom). Since childhood, I always felt I had to explain myself when it came to these issues (such as not celebrating Christmas/Easter, my beliefs about heaven/hell, dietary laws, and etc.), because people want to take away "Christian card" so to speak.



divya said:
This is an informational thread for those who may like to voice their beliefs and views, which are not typical of the mainstream. Here are a few and feel free to add more:

1. Salvation is a gift, than can be accepted or rejected at any point in life. Therefore, one is not once saved always saved. John 3:16.

2. Hell translates to the grave in most cases in the Hebrew and Greek. It is not a place that exists in the present, nor where people burn endlessly. The lake of fire will be created in the end and will burn out leaving nothing. Ecclesiastes 2; Revelation 20.

3. The Ten Commandments are for us to follow today - all of them as stated in Exodus. Matthew 5:17-18

4. The Biblical health laws are relevant for us to day and not nailed to the cross as the ordinances (sacrificial and ceremonial law). Leviticus 11; Deuteronomy 14; Colossians 2;

5. Not only those who profess Christianity will be in heaven. Romans 2

I hope this is helpful so that people can gain more exposure to the differing views within Christianity, if necessary, and so that people may ask rather than assume what others believe. :yep:
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divya said:
6. Christmas and Easter are not Christian holidays, at least in origin.

7. When you die, you don't go straight to heaven. Righteous dead wait until the Second Coming of Christ, and the wicked until after the 1000 years. 1 Thess 4:16-17; Rev. 20.

8. The feast days should be kept.
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Here's another: Christians in the end times will not avoid the tribulation via the rapture, but will be raptired at the end of the 7 years.
 
thank you

In Holiness also its pretty tough to communicate with other christians about certain things

one exemple salvation, by just saying with your mouth that JC is your savior was intended for jews that had a zeal for God not gentiles who didnt even know the one true God, same thing today, we're Gentiles, so it takes much more

other exemples including but not limited to (lol) skirts for women, long hair for women, no make up, no divorce, no abortion, natural medication, tongue speaking for the Holy Ghost, if tongue speaking but lifestyle is not holy after some time then it can be a bad spirit, no smoking , no drinking, no secular music, no club, no bar, no evolution, no pseudo christian holidays, not everything good that happens to you is from God, mercy is not blessings, not everybody that profess christianity are/will be saved (1st John 2:4-6, Luke 6:46, Matthew 7:21-23)

anyway thank you for that
 
And yet another: The title reverend is not found in the bible and the word is only found once in the KJV (Psalm 111:9).

I am a person who is obsessed with finding the truth because, ultimately, I am responsible for my relationship with Our Father. If that means going against what everyone else is doing, then so be it.
 
puro_tumbao said:
I'm very glad you posted this! I grew up in a household where our beliefs where the ones you listed. It was (and still is) rough, because I never attended an actual church, but rather did bible study at home (taught by my mom). Since childhood, I always felt I had to explain myself when it came to these issues (such as not celebrating Christmas/Easter, my beliefs about heaven/hell, dietary laws, and etc.), because people want to take away "Christian card" so to speak.
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So true. It really can be difficult. What is perceived to be Christian often centers around certain beliefs held by the majority, so when you don't hold them many people inquire how you can be a Christian? :nono: Then at times the cult accusations get thrown around. Still it is our responsibility to be loving in our responses. It presents often presents an opportunity to share our beliefs with those around us. So may we be encouraged to keep the faith!

We may not agree on everything, but that we strive to live by the light that God gives us is what is required! :yep:
 
Nymphe said:
And yet another: The title reverend is not found in the bible and the word is only found once in the KJV (Psalm 111:9).

I am a person who is obsessed with finding the truth because, ultimately, I am responsible for my relationship with Our Father. If that means going against what everyone else is doing, then so be it.
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Interesting point. Wonder how that came into usage in some branches of Christianity and why?

@ the bold. That's the way it should be. :yep:
 
Nymphe said:
I am a person who is obsessed with finding the truth because, ultimately, I am responsible for my relationship with Our Father. If that means going against what everyone else is doing, then so be it.
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I can identify myself to this. Maybe not obsessed, but diligent.:grin:
 
i was told in another thread about the fact that i dont wear makeup is like i get so CAUGHT UP in LOOKING LIKE a chrisitan, BEING a christian is lost (pretty offensive)

its so odd to me because come on, its not a new concept, everyone has heard at least OF it, it was the norm a couple of generations back, you can say its old school even.

I mean makeup used to be only for streetwalkers and entertainers a few decades ago

but a lot of what was the norm before is negative to the mainstream christian today, so much has been popularized

and i know im not alone, and i read some posts by 16 17 year olds thinking the same things about certain topics considred old school on other sites

its so weird to me

i wish i was born decades earlier lol
 
Mamita said:
i was told in another thread about the fact that i dont wear makeup is like i get so CAUGHT UP in LOOKING LIKE a chrisitan, BEING a christian is lost (pretty offensive)

its so odd to me because come on, its not a new concept, everyone has heard at least OF it, it was the norm a couple of generations back, you can say its old school even.

I mean makeup used to be only for streetwalkers and entertainers a few decades ago

but a lot of what was the norm before is negative to the mainstream christian today, so much has been popularized

and i know im not alone, and i read some posts by 16 17 year olds thinking the same things about certain topics considred old school on other sites

its so weird to me

i wish i was born decades earlier lol
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Wow@ the bold. The counsel to be modest and simple is right there in the Scriptures. If you are convicted not to wear makeup, that's a good thing, imo. I also agree with you about what has become popularized in Christianity.
 
You know, we had an interesting thread on Halloween... I was thinking about posting something on Christmas earlier and I think I'll post it here instead, if you don't mind. I'll look for it later and post it.... :yep:

oh, and here's an interesting link. {I'll be a "heathen, confused or double-minded" for posting this, but who cares? :lachen: God is good...

http://www.therefinersfire.org/challenging_christianity.htm

Thank you for the thread...I love a good challenge.
 
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Laela said:
You know, we had an interesting thread on Halloween... I was thinking about posting something on Christmas earlier and I think I'll post it here instead, if you don't mind. I'll look for it later and post it.... :yep:
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Please do. It's important that we are aware of the origins of these holidays, so that we can make informed decisions about how to approach them. :yep:
 
divya said:
Please do. It's important that we are aware of the origins of these holidays, so that we can make informed decisions about how to approach them. :yep:
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O-RI-GINS exactly !

thats what we should be always looking at, the devil is such a liar, evolving with our time is not what its about

specially if the Word is sealed in Heaven, it aint evolving lol people are the only ones evolving towards something worse than it used to be lol
 
I believe that we are all going to be surprised by just how many things we got wrong when we get to heaven. I don't believe that anyone denomination has the "truth"-I believe we are all wrong on something.
 
Laela said:
Diligent...persistent.... ITA!
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Persistent has a light negative connotation in French.
Let’s say diligent and persevering.

And I love this verse :
Act. 17.11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

I don’t want fables or human doctrines established in x years and based on a partial view of the Bible.

With the Holy Spirit of God and the actual technology (internet and biblical search engine), our generation has no excuse.
Dan. 12.9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
 
O-RI-GINS exactly !

thats what we should be always looking at, the devil is such a liar, evolving with our time is not what its about

specially if the Word is sealed in Heaven, it aint evolving lol people are the only ones evolving towards something worse than it used to be lol
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I don't consider myself as modern, I am a new creature with the old and real christian values.
It's time to make an evaluation and come back to the origins, the Bible, the teaching of Paul : the outside reflects the inside. But, I am not for the legalism : the outside with an empty inside.
I don’t have worldly holidays. My holidays are each day with Jesus-Christ and I gather one or more days a week with other believers (assembly).

 If I understand, only one feast will remain :
 Zac. 14.16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
 
divya said:
Tell the truth! Taking the minds and hearts of the young (and old) away from Jesus Christ! :nono:

Thank you for sharing! This is should have its own thread, the closer we get to Christmas day!
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I agree !
This should have its own thread, Laela. Christmas day is coming.
 
Crown said:
I don't consider myself as modern, I am a new creature with the old and real christian values.
It's time to make an evaluation and come back to the origins, the Bible, the teaching of Paul : the outside reflects the inside. But, I am not for the legalism : the outside with an empty inside.

I don’t have worldly holidays. My holidays are each day with Jesus-Christ and I gather one or more days a week with other believers (assembly).

If I understand, only one feast will remain :
Zac. 14.16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
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AT the bolded part, I struggle with that so much. I grew up SDA and still am SDA. Some of those who hurt me the most in my life had the right outside but nothing on the inside. By right outside SDA believe that christians are best represented with no adornemnt and simplicity in dress-no makeup, jewelry, no flashy fashions, ect. (Some even think flashy hair adorments is a no no.) Those who inspired me the most had the "wrong" outside but the spirit of God was so bright in their actions and life that their outside didn't matter because all you saw once you met them was God. I truly believe that a right inside will outshine anything on the outside, contrary to what alot of Christians believe. I believe that God's love changes us from the inside out, but there is no one "look" that defines what a christian should look like.
 
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Crown said:
I don't consider myself as modern, I am a new creature with the old and real christian values.
It's time to make an evaluation and come back to the origins, the Bible, the teaching of Paul : the outside reflects the inside. But, I am not for the legalism : the outside with an empty inside.
I don’t have worldly holidays. My holidays are each day with Jesus-Christ and I gather one or more days a week with other believers (assembly).

 If I understand, only one feast will remain :
 Zac. 14.16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
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about holidays yeah i agree, how we see it is that, Jesus Christ said "and do this in rememberance of me" only ONCE, and he was talking about communion. not easter, not xmas, not nothing
people love putting Jesus everywhere and see nothing wrong with putting 2 opposited together

@ Dicapr i'll have to disagree, you're talking about "outshining" but God's power IS strong enough to CHANGE the outside, our whole CONVERSATION (lifestyle) changes to be like Christ's. Christ came as an exemple to follow among other things, and he was the humblest, and said for us to be separate from the world

take 2 women, one of them christian, but both of them wear makeup jewelry, tight pants, flashy hairdos, flashy fashion... how you gonna tell the christian from the other on sight? you're supposed to be able to do that... on sight, so that someone that wants to follow Christ can recognize you right away and ask you questions.
You wont spark any interest in the Lord if you look like any ole unsaved person out there.
see what i did there? spark... light... no? lol be a light in the world? lol
ok ok lame lol
 
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