calm_delight
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What is the best way to use MTG?
MTG controversy
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ChocoKitty
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Apply it to the scalp and let it "marinate".
I think applying at night allows the smell to die down a bit by the morning. You really don't need much if apply it with a nozzle tipped bottle. I 've used it 3 to 5x a day and got excellent results. I apply it, let it sit overnight or a day or too then co wash and repeat. At the end of the week I would shampoo it all out and start the process over.
Right now night I just apply it 2 days a week. I apply it to the scalp plop some MnT conditioner over it; sleeping in a plastic cap overnight. Then I co wash in the morning. Tomorrow will be shampoo day.
I think applying at night allows the smell to die down a bit by the morning. You really don't need much if apply it with a nozzle tipped bottle. I 've used it 3 to 5x a day and got excellent results. I apply it, let it sit overnight or a day or too then co wash and repeat. At the end of the week I would shampoo it all out and start the process over.
Right now night I just apply it 2 days a week. I apply it to the scalp plop some MnT conditioner over it; sleeping in a plastic cap overnight. Then I co wash in the morning. Tomorrow will be shampoo day.
sunshyne_krissy
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ChocoKitty said:Apply it to the scalp and let it "marinate".
I think applying at night allows the smell to die down a bit by the morning. You really don't need much if apply it with a nozzle tipped bottle. I 've used it 3 to 5x a day and got excellent results. I apply it, let it sit overnight or a day or too then co wash and repeat. At the end of the week I would shampoo it all out and start the process over.
Right now night I just apply it 2 days a week. I apply it to the scalp plop some MnT conditioner over it; sleeping in a plastic cap overnight. Then I co wash in the morning. Tomorrow will be shampoo day.
Yea thats a great way to apply. I just learned that by applying it in a spray tip nozzle I can cover more ground in less amount of time than using a regular spray bottle like the Infusium 23 bottle or African Royale spray bottle. I think I'm running out of it faster cuz more comes out when I spray. BUT its still great. When I come out of braids in 2 years I will use the baggie method when I apply it at night to let it marinate. Then I might put a leave in conditoner in and let it air dry. But with braids its toooo heavy to do a baggie method with all that hair and then moisture..I can't wait till I reach my WL goal so I can do all these other methods with my MTG. So far so good though. Exceptional amounts of new growth!!!!!
Good luck to my sistas using MTG
MysTori
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Let's put the "MTG is made for animals" argument to rest.
MTG was created by a barber for people to treat dandruff and psoriasis. Because he loved horses, he tried it on them and it worked. Here is the story as related by the company itself.
It began in 1938 with a barber named Henry E. Shapley in Waterloo, Iowa, who formulated a product for dandruff and psoriasis. An avid horse lover, he soon discovered the same great results on his horses as he did with his customers. This became Shapley’s first product, known then and now as Original M-T-G (Mane-Tail-Groom).
From these humble beginnings, Shapley’s has grown into an organization providing an extensive line of quality equine grooming products, including our revolutionary Show Touch Up. Passed down through the generations, Shapley’s has now become a staple in barns world wide!
Our philosophy at Shapley’s is the Customer comes first...both human and equine! In maintaining the tradition of innovation driven by customer need, we encourage and solicit all comments and suggestions.
A sincere thank you to our customers who have supported us throughout the years, and an enthusiastic welcome to our new customers!
Cindy S. Carfore
President
http://shapleys.com/company.html
I am by no means an MTG fanatic. I use it from time to time, but I make sure when I make a comment about something, I know what I'm talking about (esp. if I'm promoting it based on results. See siggy). If more people would take 2 minutes to do a little research, they would save 2 hours expressing a worthless opinion.
People like old girl at BHM, who give negative testimony about something they don't use, don't know anybody that uses it and, at the very least, she doesn't even research it, makes me angry.
MTG was created by a barber for people to treat dandruff and psoriasis. Because he loved horses, he tried it on them and it worked. Here is the story as related by the company itself.
It began in 1938 with a barber named Henry E. Shapley in Waterloo, Iowa, who formulated a product for dandruff and psoriasis. An avid horse lover, he soon discovered the same great results on his horses as he did with his customers. This became Shapley’s first product, known then and now as Original M-T-G (Mane-Tail-Groom).
From these humble beginnings, Shapley’s has grown into an organization providing an extensive line of quality equine grooming products, including our revolutionary Show Touch Up. Passed down through the generations, Shapley’s has now become a staple in barns world wide!
Our philosophy at Shapley’s is the Customer comes first...both human and equine! In maintaining the tradition of innovation driven by customer need, we encourage and solicit all comments and suggestions.
A sincere thank you to our customers who have supported us throughout the years, and an enthusiastic welcome to our new customers!
Cindy S. Carfore
President
http://shapleys.com/company.html
I am by no means an MTG fanatic. I use it from time to time, but I make sure when I make a comment about something, I know what I'm talking about (esp. if I'm promoting it based on results. See siggy
). If more people would take 2 minutes to do a little research, they would save 2 hours expressing a worthless opinion.People like old girl at BHM, who give negative testimony about something they don't use, don't know anybody that uses it and, at the very least, she doesn't even research it, makes me angry.
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KiniKakes
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sunshyne_krissy said:
Yeah, you are right about that. Thats why i try to order several bottles at a time, when its time for me to replenish..... I just know that they are gonna get wise to us and jack those prices waaay up. Since the black hair community got hip to MTG in 2005 I know their sales have soared. *smh*
In fact, they are already started to slowly raise the prices.... I just went to Shapley's site to see what the large bottle is going for, and its $16.95 (+ S/H). Now correct me if Im wrong but.... thats a few dollars more than it used to be. *smh* They think they're slick over there at Shapleys...... I better go ahead and stock up now, cuz it'll probably be $20 (+ shipping) in a few more months...
ChocoKitty
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KiniKakes said:
You know I just checked the pricing at Shapely's last night and was shocked! If I have to order it I be purchasing it from Millbrook.com. They sell it for about $10.99 + $6 for shipping each bottle. That's if I can't get my Aunt to send me some from West Memphis. Come to think of it... Maybe during my next visit this summer I'll stock up too.
KiniKakes
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ChocoKitty said:You know I just checked the pricing at Shapely's last night and was shocked! If I have to order it I be purchasing it from Millbrook.com. They sell it for about $10.99 + $6 for shipping each bottle. That's if I can't get my Aunt to send me some from West Memphis. Come to think of it... Maybe during my next visit this summer I'll stock up too.
Hmmmm, the last few times I checked with Millbrook-tack.com they were sold out. This was on at least three occasions.
They kept claiming that a shipment was due "any day." We'll see....... 
So yeah, girl, i'd stock up when you next go to West Memphis, if i were u. Cuz it looks like the folks over at Shapleys are on to us.
I know the REAL horse owners are scratching their heads like: "WTH.... we've been ordering this product for years and now they are raising prices on us???" LOL
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sunshyne_krissy
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KiniKakes said:
yea girl. I was thinking that we should just buy a case of it to last a year...lol
KiniKakes
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sunshyne_krissy said:
I know thats right.
I just came from the site and they DO have it in stock now.
They have it sooo much cheaper than Shapely's site. Also, shipping is free for orders of over $75, so if anyone is really ambitious they can get their order sent to them for FREE.https://www.millbrook-tack.com/millbrook/product.asp?s_id=0&pf_id=PAAAIADLKFHKHEPP&dept_id=3268
KiniKakes
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teressa9 said:Let's put the "MTG is made for animals" argument to rest.
MTG was created by a barber for people to treat dandruff and psoriasis. Because he loved horses, he tried it on them and it worked. Here is the story as related by the company itself.
It began in 1938 with a barber named Henry E. Shapley in Waterloo, Iowa, who formulated a product for dandruff and psoriasis. An avid horse lover, he soon discovered the same great results on his horses as he did with his customers. This became Shapley’s first product, known then and now as Original M-T-G (Mane-Tail-Groom).
From these humble beginnings, Shapley’s has grown into an organization providing an extensive line of quality equine grooming products, including our revolutionary Show Touch Up. Passed down through the generations, Shapley’s has now become a staple in barns world wide!
Our philosophy at Shapley’s is the Customer comes first...both human and equine! In maintaining the tradition of innovation driven by customer need, we encourage and solicit all comments and suggestions.
A sincere thank you to our customers who have supported us throughout the years, and an enthusiastic welcome to our new customers!
Cindy S. Carfore
President
http://shapleys.com/company.html
I am by no means an MTG fanatic. I use it from time to time, but I make sure when I make a comment about something, I know what I'm talking about (esp. if I'm promoting it based on results. See siggy
People like old girl at BHM, who give negative testimony about something they don't use, don't know anybody that uses it and, at the very least, she doesn't even research it, makes me angry.
Thank you VERY much for posting that. *smh* Its annoying to hear folks talk with so much PASSION, about things they really know nothing about.
Not saying that everyone who is not an advocate of MTG is clueless, because some ppl have actually done the research and still dont support it.... but its the WORST when you can tell that folks are just talking based on "hear-say." Thats hella lame.
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HighlyFavored1
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i was definitely one of those people who thought the hair growth you ladies are achieving with mtg was great, but i was way too scared to use a horse product on my head. haha, but i ordered my first bottle last night.
hey, it's summer break, this is probably the best time to try new things...i'm hoping to see some positive results.
thanks for convincing me!
hey, it's summer break, this is probably the best time to try new things...i'm hoping to see some positive results.
thanks for convincing me!
Mahalialee4
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MTg helped me in several ways.
1. Had it not been for MTG I would never have considered using a sulphur based product on my hair. I refused to use Sulphur 8 because I was afraid it would hurt me, lol. I did not want to use petroleum because I was afraid it would block my pores. But I really longed for thicker, stronger, bigger stranded hair, like a mess of real thick napptural hair that was long, at least to below bra strap unstretched. ALSO I wanted to be able to braid my hair and not worry about damaging it. My hair being very baby fine needed help. Results: My hair has doubled in thickness, actually doubled!!! The fine strands have become about three times as thick. How did that happen. (Well, I used a synergistic combo of MTG, rachet based protein deep conditioner, a pure coconut oil infused with herbs and tsulphur and my leave in is the Original Infusium. I even shampoo with Grandpa's Pine Tar soap.) What has this got to do with MTG? Well, Sulphur was the missing link in my hair care. Proof of the total change in texture is more shrinkage! I can wear twists without it tangling and dreading, and I am able to wear braids without fear of them damaging my hair because the hair was too fine. Yes, my hair is growing....and I have even done a trim. But I believe I can get three inches minimum by the end of the year. Oh and about the smell, I also make my own flowers of sulphur oil. But MTG was the catalyst for all of this. bonjour
1. Had it not been for MTG I would never have considered using a sulphur based product on my hair. I refused to use Sulphur 8 because I was afraid it would hurt me, lol. I did not want to use petroleum because I was afraid it would block my pores. But I really longed for thicker, stronger, bigger stranded hair, like a mess of real thick napptural hair that was long, at least to below bra strap unstretched. ALSO I wanted to be able to braid my hair and not worry about damaging it. My hair being very baby fine needed help. Results: My hair has doubled in thickness, actually doubled!!! The fine strands have become about three times as thick. How did that happen. (Well, I used a synergistic combo of MTG, rachet based protein deep conditioner, a pure coconut oil infused with herbs and tsulphur and my leave in is the Original Infusium. I even shampoo with Grandpa's Pine Tar soap.) What has this got to do with MTG? Well, Sulphur was the missing link in my hair care. Proof of the total change in texture is more shrinkage! I can wear twists without it tangling and dreading, and I am able to wear braids without fear of them damaging my hair because the hair was too fine. Yes, my hair is growing....and I have even done a trim. But I believe I can get three inches minimum by the end of the year. Oh and about the smell, I also make my own flowers of sulphur oil. But MTG was the catalyst for all of this. bonjour
Mahalialee4
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Gray hairs from MTG? I thought they were from stress mon! hahahahabonjour
Blaque*Angel
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Mahalialee4 said:
lol
MzOptimistic
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I bought MTG in December 2005 when joined because of the different reviews of it....it seemed like the good sorta outweighed the bad...ladies was saying that it gave them a rash, gave headaches, acne, and tarnished jewelry...but I put a towel around my neck and did not wear jewelry when I used it...I had no problems really using MTG..the only issue I have with MTG is it is too time consuming and I really did not see a big difference in my hair growth because it is growing anyway....I stopped using MTG just because I did not see a difference in my hair growth....I believe if you take care of your hair and for me take your vits and let them get into your system (like 3-4 months) and your hair will grow...mine is growing faster...and I think it is because of the vits and daily maintenance....before joining I use to get a little ng around 6 weeks but I never went past 6 weeks without getting a touch-up....now I stretch a little longer my last stretch was 9 weeks and I was having major shedding and breakage and after consulting with the ladies on here I decided to get my touchup...now I am in week 8 and my ng is crazy...I wish I can post but I am on the hide my hair until christmas challenge...what's keeping it from breaking is conditioner washing every 2 days and I swear I only have a few strands in the comb...well I completely jumped off the topic.....from... mtg to my hair but what I'm saying is take some vits and let it get in your system and your hair will grow.... I learned that from the ladies on here...smart, smart women..I'm so glad I found yall...but if mtg is working hey stick with it I just didn't see a huge different. I too sometime apply it to my hair and put a baggie on though.
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HighlyFavored1
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I've been using MTG for about a month. So far, I'm loving the results. Since I apply it while my hair is wet, the smell is not very noticeable by the time it's dry (unless somebody is all in my head). What I like most about it is that it's also helping my hair to grow in the areas where growth is usually a lot slower. So I have substantially more new growth in the areas behind my ears, along my temples, at my front hairline, and at my nape. This is a really big deal for me because these areas always grow slower than my crown and the sides, causing my hair to appear thinner. So for me, I feel like it's helping to thicken my hair because it's giving the slow growing areas a chance to get some accelerated growth.
Additionally I haven't had any side effects of headaches or neck rashes because I simply put a towel around my neck first, and I apply it with my fingers so I get a good idea as to how much i'm using and whether it's dripping.
Unfortunately, I don't know if I'll be able to continue to use it once I'm back at school because I'm around people and my boyfriend too much. Hopefully i can atleast continue to use it on my nape and other slowgrowing, "hidden" areas.
Additionally I haven't had any side effects of headaches or neck rashes because I simply put a towel around my neck first, and I apply it with my fingers so I get a good idea as to how much i'm using and whether it's dripping.
Unfortunately, I don't know if I'll be able to continue to use it once I'm back at school because I'm around people and my boyfriend too much. Hopefully i can atleast continue to use it on my nape and other slowgrowing, "hidden" areas.
peacelove
Active Member
Well I refuse to try it. It is just too much for me to do and I know how I am. And I know smell would get to me. But I will never knock someone for using it if they are happy with the results and find it worth while.
I think we should all be careful when it comes to products that are very strong like this seems to be. But from what I have seen, people have researched and contacted the makers and such. So if they feel comfortable with what they know about it and with using it, then go for it.
I think we should all be careful when it comes to products that are very strong like this seems to be. But from what I have seen, people have researched and contacted the makers and such. So if they feel comfortable with what they know about it and with using it, then go for it.
punchinella
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nurseN98 said:I ain't puttin nothin that smelly on my head....but I definitely don't begrudge anybody who does use it. It looks like it works very well for a lot of ladies.
That's funny I was just thinking she probably would not have wanted to be my friend when I was little because my mother used to mix Glover's and Sulphur 8 hair grease and put it on my scalp and hair on Sunday nite so Monday morning when I went to school...Will you be my friend?
luv4real
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Ok, so after reading about all the controversy surrounding MTG, I decided to email the president of Shapley's myself and inquire about any dangers of human use of this product. I use it and have not had any problems.
Here is her reply:
Thank you for your email regarding use of Original M-T-G on human hair.
As you mentioned, it was originally formulated for use on human skin ailments. As I was not the owner at the time (it was in the 1930's) I can only guess at why they did not pursue the human market. From the history that I have for the company, when Henry Shapley, who was a barber, realized it worked well on horses, also, he started a side company selling it. This is the company that he sold and eventually became my current company. My guess is he still used the formula on his own clients and then when he retired, it fell by the wayside. Now, as I have not been able to speak directly with Henry, or his family, this is supposition that I have gained from the previous owner.
With all that being said, I can tell you that none of the ingredients in the current formula for Original M-T-G have any known detrimental effects on humans (with the exception of an allergic reaction to sulfur). We have had the formula reviewed by a human hair care specialist (PhD with FDA experience) and he has given us the ok to pursue the human market with the current formula.
This is what we are doing currently. We are tweaking the formula to improve the smell and the consistency, but these are only cosmetic changes. We hope to have this available to market soon.
I hope this helps to alleviate your concerns about using the product. If not, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Best regards,
Cindy S. Carfore
President, Shapley, Ltd.
HTH!!!
Here is her reply:
Thank you for your email regarding use of Original M-T-G on human hair.
As you mentioned, it was originally formulated for use on human skin ailments. As I was not the owner at the time (it was in the 1930's) I can only guess at why they did not pursue the human market. From the history that I have for the company, when Henry Shapley, who was a barber, realized it worked well on horses, also, he started a side company selling it. This is the company that he sold and eventually became my current company. My guess is he still used the formula on his own clients and then when he retired, it fell by the wayside. Now, as I have not been able to speak directly with Henry, or his family, this is supposition that I have gained from the previous owner.
With all that being said, I can tell you that none of the ingredients in the current formula for Original M-T-G have any known detrimental effects on humans (with the exception of an allergic reaction to sulfur). We have had the formula reviewed by a human hair care specialist (PhD with FDA experience) and he has given us the ok to pursue the human market with the current formula.
This is what we are doing currently. We are tweaking the formula to improve the smell and the consistency, but these are only cosmetic changes. We hope to have this available to market soon.
I hope this helps to alleviate your concerns about using the product. If not, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Best regards,
Cindy S. Carfore
President, Shapley, Ltd.
HTH!!!
BeatriceFly
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wow so its not so horrible after all!!!!
well i hope they dont jack up those prices cuz i dont have time for that and all them games and inflation and thangs
wow.... im still shocked...thank you girl for that info!!!!
i better go get some more even though i just got mine and ive only been using it for 5 days lol!!!!
and i got it for 13 dollars incl shipping from someone on here isnt that fab??
well i hope they dont jack up those prices cuz i dont have time for that and all them games and inflation and thangs
wow.... im still shocked...thank you girl for that info!!!!
i better go get some more even though i just got mine and ive only been using it for 5 days lol!!!!
and i got it for 13 dollars incl shipping from someone on here isnt that fab??
MrsQueeny
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Hey girlie, I remember when you first introduced yourself. I checked out your fotki and it is looking good. You stopped pressing!!! Wow you are really making some progress, I told you it gets easier and better once you get your regimen down. Let me know if you need some more MTG. Take care QEbonyPerez said:
BeatriceFly
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queeny20 said:
well thanks for the compliment and yes i remember you too!!
i dont quite know what progress you mean but i am in deed getting the hang of my hair in its natural state
i will be pressing next month tho b/c i have serious split ends and i need to cut them thangs off and since ive been taking care of my ends now i think i can prevent them in the future
but i will take pics of my hair when i straighten it and see if it looks any different or longer and put it in my fotki
and yes, let me know about some mtg if u have
ive only been using it for a week and i havent noticed anything yet but PM me or i'll jus go ahead and PM u first
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