Holla4mom
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MHM Hangout
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snoop
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I've got an embarrassing problem with the clay. I don't think I can wash it out of my hair very well. I used to use conditioner in my final rinse because I found that the clay would stick to to my strands, but in starting the modified MHM I cut the conditioner out. Well, wouldn't it just happen that my mother points out that my hair looked "dusty". UGH! Does anyone have any tips other than "rinse for 20 minutes"?
GGsKin
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@'tips other than rinse for 20 minutes'. How are you washing your hair? Sink/ bath/ shower? How thick is your clay? Do you wash your hair in sections? Have you tried smaller sections?- clipping the hair you aren't working on out of the way. That helps me. Also, under the shower, really massaging your scalp in those small sections and smoothing down your strands to work the clay out.
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DeeLiteFulEKinky
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Thanks for answering my questions about the announcement.
I was feeling lazy again today and co-washed with TJTTT followed by a clay treatment that I left on for about and hour and just applied my leave in mix ( I now combine KCKT & oyin hair dew and water) followed by diluted KCCC. My hair looks better than I thought it would skipping the clarifying step.
Last wash I skipped the deep conditioning step. And my hair still looked/felt great.
So..... My question is.... Is this an actual modification people do? Skip clarifying and/or DC... But co-wash instead, then clay, leave in, gel?
Also, if you modify and water rinse then clay, do you still use a leave in, or straight to gel.
I'm begining to see how putting on a leave in frizzes/shrinks my hair a bit.
I was feeling lazy again today and co-washed with TJTTT followed by a clay treatment that I left on for about and hour and just applied my leave in mix ( I now combine KCKT & oyin hair dew and water) followed by diluted KCCC. My hair looks better than I thought it would skipping the clarifying step.
Last wash I skipped the deep conditioning step. And my hair still looked/felt great.
So..... My question is.... Is this an actual modification people do? Skip clarifying and/or DC... But co-wash instead, then clay, leave in, gel?
Also, if you modify and water rinse then clay, do you still use a leave in, or straight to gel.
I'm begining to see how putting on a leave in frizzes/shrinks my hair a bit.
snoop
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How are you washing your hair? Sink/ bath/ shower? How thick is your clay? Do you wash your hair in sections? Have you tried smaller sections?- clipping the hair you aren't working on out of the way. That helps me. Also, under the shower, really massaging your scalp in those small sections and smoothing down your strands to work the clay out.
I wash my hair in the shower. Before MHM I would just use it like a shampoo and massage all over, rinse, then do one or two conditioner washes (massage all over) to get it out. Lately, I've been washing my hair in sections, shingling my hair with the clay in to help distribute it but not binding the section up after. Then I rinse it out, but I try parting my hair downward in small sections.
I might just go back to doing conditioner wash after the clay wash and see if using my conditioner makes a difference as to how my hair feels.
DeeLiteFulEKinky
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I've tested my clay mix once before and it was about a 9/9.5
Is that "bad"? I feel like my hair does better with a higher ph.
GGsKin
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I don't know if it's bad. But if you've been making that mix and using it with no adverse effects then I'd say go ahead, but keep monitoring your hair and how it responds.
faithVA
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Thanks so much. I actually have about 1\4 bottle of KKKT and an almost full bottle of Giovanni so Plan to try those. I just have to go out and get a gel and some clay from Vitamin Shoppe then i'm in business. I have like 7 different gels in my stash but of course all of them have unapproved ingredients, lol. I making my list now so I can get the ingredients for the Cherry Lola treatment and other stuff after work today. Can't wait to try this.
Damn you Cherry Lola and your treatment!!!! ( is she a member here?) .
I followed the recipe to a T but when I went to open the blender it was really hard to get it open and when it finally did it exploded all over my damn kitchen. Its kinda funny now, now that the mess is all cleaned up.
Nutribullet + CLCT = no bueno. Something told me to use the hand mixer, should've went with my gut.
Was there a warning about this somewhere in this thread? Probably on page 59 or something like that ( I'm only on page 10
I'm guessing you put the baking soda and acv in before you blended? That's what will blow up in you. I blend all the ingredients except bs and acv. I split my batch in half and freeze half and then out the bs and acv in the other half.
GGsKin
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I don't think my hair likes cowashing so I haven't done that for a good while. However, I am sleeping with a conditioner DC mix tonight, after using a protein conditioner (I decided to have a late night start). I didn't clarify beforehand- just water rinsed.
My hair seems to do just fine if I do this occasionally. Considering I used diluted shampoo on my last wash, I didn't feel there was a real need to clarify this time. I'll see how my hair looks after clay tomorrow.
I don't use a leave in. Just oil rinse and gel.
nycutiepie
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It is almost instantaneous. Once I slide my hands through its easy. My hair is low density and my longest strands reach a little past my shoulder. If look in a mirror head on, I can't see my ends because they kind of hang down my back. I actually don't think that has anything to do with it because I used a sulfate shampoo and it was not that detangled after or after the CLT. The detangling happened with the clay.
DeeLiteFulEKinky
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Will do! Thanks
nycutiepie
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This cracked me up and I swear I almost used my Nutribullet yesterday to mix it but I did the one without the bananas and stuff. Thank goodness because I was rushing and would've been pissed. Chile, you just made your first contribution to the "do not do list"!!Damn you Cherry Lola and your treatment
I followed the recipe to a T but when I went to open the blender it was really hard to get it open and when it finally did it exploded all over my damn kitchen
Nutribullet + CLCT = no bueno. Something told me to use the hand mixer, should've went with my gut.
Was there a warning about this somewhere in this thread? Probably on page 59 or something like that ( I'm only on page 10
nycutiepie
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Perhaps @snoop is not mixing it well because the bentonite is definitely harder to mix.
How are you washing your hair? Sink/ bath/ shower? How thick is your clay? Do you wash your hair in sections? Have you tried smaller sections?- clipping the hair you aren't working on out of the way. That helps me. Also, under the shower, really massaging your scalp in those small sections and smoothing down your strands to work the clay out.
nycutiepie
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This post just turned on a lightbulb. My hair is shrinking to about 1 inch which I HATE and which is why I put my wig right back on yesterday. I'm wondering if it's the KKNT? Does anybody know. I did the modified but I used the KKNT full strength and the KCC full strength. What part of this regimen causes the shrinkage because I don't have that much shrinkage otherwise? Perhaps I need to try the As I Am gel?
discodumpling
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Shrinkage will happen to some degree no matter what product you use. shrinkage is the nature of kinky, curly, nappy, swirly hair. Folks dedicate their whole journey to eradicating shrinkage i choose to embrace it! It is a very unique characteristic of our hair.
Today is hair day for me and DD5 also. I've got my clay in after an over night protein DC. and she's sitting under the dryer with her protein DC after I thoroughly FINGER detangled her hair. I need a break! I was gonna let her rock her curls but i'll just moisturize and band cause i'm tired of touching hair...hers and mine! I'll be washing and going and we'll hopefully be on with the rest of our Saturday before noon!
Oh yeah before somebody asks...my hair is at the point where it laughs at a CLT the alternatives are to do it more often (NO!) or to use proper protein that has longer lasting effects. That's what i did last night with a "One an Only" hydrating mask packet from Sally's.
Today is hair day for me and DD5 also. I've got my clay in after an over night protein DC. and she's sitting under the dryer with her protein DC after I thoroughly FINGER detangled her hair. I need a break! I was gonna let her rock her curls but i'll just moisturize and band cause i'm tired of touching hair...hers and mine! I'll be washing and going and we'll hopefully be on with the rest of our Saturday before noon!
Oh yeah before somebody asks...my hair is at the point where it laughs at a CLT the alternatives are to do it more often (NO!) or to use proper protein that has longer lasting effects. That's what i did last night with a "One an Only" hydrating mask packet from Sally's.
Holla4mom
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Does you mix have ACV? You may have already done this, but can you share your mix and estimated amounts?
Thanks!
snoop
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I've been used rhassoul and pink clay. This last wash was rhassoul and I really don't know. Maybe it's just my washing skills? I use a stick blender to mix. The clays are kind of grainy after but homogenous. I'm hoping to try kaolin this weekend and see if I like it. (Hopefully, "yes" since I ordered twice as much as I'd intended.)
I also think that I'll go back to my regular routine (clay wash and conditioner rinse), but use the MHM technique for applying the clay and conditioner. Sandy hair is not sexy.
Holla4mom
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I'm so jealous, at how quickly you can detangle. May I ask if you know your hair type? My low density 4a daughter can detangle quickly too, but my high density 4c hair is not trying to hear that! I will say it is getting easier and easier as more of it clumps together!
Holla4mom
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I can't put a leave in on after I wash out the clay or I get even more shrinkage and I lose definition. I think that happens to quite a few people which is why Dubaidee developed her modification removing the conditioner. This is also the reason I don't co-wash before the clay because my hair loses its clumps and is more tangly going into the clay session which is the opposite effect I would want from a conditioner.
DeeLiteFulEKinky
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My hair will shrink no matter what, I'm okay with that, but as @Holla4mom said, it looses definition. That's what I should have said. It definitely de-clumps my hair more than I'd like. Seems like a waste after the clay defined everything so nicely. I do notice the KCCC step clumps the hair a bit and defines it but not like the clay.
DeeLiteFulEKinky
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Sure
Calcium bentonite ~ 4 heaping spoonfuls / probably a tablespoon each.
Warm water ~ 4 oz
Raw honey~ 1 teaspoon dissolved in the warmed water
Avocado oil ~ about tablespoon, maybe more depending on how much grapeseed I have
Grapeseed oil ~ about a teaspoon, or more
Linden & Nettle extract ~ 2 vials ( I don't know what they are called but I squeeze the knob at the top and it fills the thingy half way so I do that twice for each extract)
Rosehip seed oil ~ 1 vial
ACV with mother or unfiltered - half teaspoon
Ylang ylang EO - 4 drops
DeeLiteFulEKinky
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I forget, but I think you already told me... You're high density, low porosity, but finely textured, right?
I'm trying to find my hair twin... Curious what's working for them.
GGsKin
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...have you already posted a hair pic?
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DeeLiteFulEKinky
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DeeLiteFulEKinky
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First twistout ever after 1st cycle mhm, and then after 5 cycles
Holla4mom
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Okay, thanks for sharing. That explains why your PH is higher. I use about 2 oz of ACV, 4 tbsp of clay/sage/milk powder/slippery elm mix, and the rest water. (I fill up a 16 oz applicator bottle). I'm using about 25 "half teaspoon" of ACV to your 1, so I'm thinking that is bringing my PH down a lot.
Is it still smooth and relatively thin with just the 1/2 teaspoon of ACV?
GGsKin
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First twistout ever after 1st cycle mhm, and then after 5 cycles
You kill me with the gifs
. I only wish I as ready as you. Your hair looks luscious and thick. Just gawgus!
Holla4mom
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Pretty! I can't tell if you're my hair twin but what you're doing is working! I'd just watch for any signs of adverse effects and ways to simplify if possible, but your hair is obviously coming along well.
First twistout ever after 1st cycle mhm, and then after 5 cycles
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