MHM Hangout

So last night, I did my midweek wash and I'm happy to say that it only took me 1 hr 15 min from start to finish which is a record for me :yay:. After working out, I did a quick clay wash and a quick finger detangling session then I applied diluted acv, the blueroze flax cream gel and diluted kccc. I then went thru smaller sections and applied more diluted kccc and let it air dry. Since my hair still isn't wash n go ready, I installed braids before bed. I ended up bunning my hair for work today cuz I really didn't have time to be fooling with my hair, but the good news is my hair feels moisturized so I'm happy about that :yep:. I think this weekend I will only use kccc as my styler since I'm actually doing dubaidee's modified version. I'm not sure if I can get kccc to work on my hi po hair by itself but I will at least test it out. Also I'm not sure if I like it diluted when I'm not wearing curlformers. I need more hold for these ramen noodles if I plan on wearing my hair out :lol:.
 
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tashboog said:
So last night, I did my midweek wash and I'm happy to say that it only took me 1 hr 15 min from start to finish which is a record for me :yay:. After working out, I did a quick clay wash and a quick finger detangling session then I applied diluted acv, the blueroze flax cream gel and diluted kccc. I then went thru smaller sections and applied more diluted kccc and let it air dry. Since my hair still isn't wash n go ready, I installed braids before bed. I ended up bunning my hair for work today cuz I really didn't have time to be fooling with my hair, but the good news is my hair feels moisturized so I'm happy about that :yep:. I think this weekend I will only use kccc as my styler since I'm actually doing dubaidee's modified version. I'm not sure if I can get kccc to work on my hi po hair by itself but I will at least test it out. Also I'm not sure if I like it diluted when I'm not wearing curlformers. I need more hold for these ramen noodles if I plan on wearing my hair out :lol:.
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What's the purpose of the ACV after clay washing? You're following Dubaidee's method right?
 
nycutiepie said:
What's the purpose of the ACV after clay washing? You're following Dubaidee's method right?
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@nycutiepie Yes I am following Dubaidee's method. She says to use diluted AVJ for high porosity hair, but I tried the diluted AVJ and my hair doesn't like it. My hair air dries too crunchy with it. So since I use to use diluted ACV in the past for my hi po hair, I've decided to use this as my conditioning step to close my cuticles before applying my gels. I use a very diluted ACV mix : 8 oz of distilled water and 1/4 tsp of ACV which gives me a pH of 5 to properly close my cuticles after clay washing. Most people don't realize that when you have high porosity and do a final ACV rinse that you're suppose to actually leave it in and not rinse it out. If you do the ACV rinse then use water to rinse it out then your changing the pH back to neutral and no longer closing the cuticle unless you use a leave in that has a low pH. Therefore, it's counterproductive for hi po ladies and that's why we still lose moisture after doing an ACV rinse. I always use a heavily diluted ACV mix for my hair when I leave it in. I think there was a thread about this back in the day where nonie did the same thing for her hair.
 
discodumpling said:
20 mins in the shower for a cowash leavein, activator,gel wash n gwan lol! Still experimenting with my overpriced gel and thinking i get slightly better results from my $1 store finds. I'll be using the whole bottle before forming my final opinion.
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Interesting that you mention the Dollar store finds. I found one for DD11 (4a, high po) and her hairs loves it. I worry it's not nourishing enough though so I mixed some of my honey/Evoo mix infused with horsetail/nettle/marshmallow root and her hair seems to be responding well.
 
DeeLiteFulEKinky said:
I think the answer you get will vary greatly since some of us are doing modified versions of mhm.
I can speak for myself and say it's a looooong time. Much of it is wait time and also washing and applying at the end of /start of each step.
For example, I'm doing the original version of mhm as outlined on the website by pinkecube.
Yesterday it took about 6 hours. Start to finish
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That sounds right. It used to take me 4-6 hours but, like you said, most of that is doing other things while waiting in each step.

My modified has taken as little as 1 hour, but to be completely honest, my best results are when it takes 2-3 hours, even with the modified. The thorough detangling in the clay and gel steps make a big difference. I will say that the more I do it, the less time my hair needs. The change in my hair is drastic enough that it seems worth it, most of the time:smirk:
 
Sunday was wash day and hubby was pissed off that I was taking so long. He was like " are you going to be doing this all the time now?".
I told him I try to move as quickly as possible but there are a lot of steps and wait time. He does agree however that my hair has been looking good lately.
I reminded him that I can do my hair during the week a few hours before bed (my preference) but all last week he was like " when you coming to bed?"
I can't win.
Our compromise is that I do it during the week. I may have to sleep with something in and finish up the rest the next day so I'm not taking as long at night.
Anyone sleep with their clay mix in? I left it in for over an hour Sunday cause DH was annoyed. As it turned out my hair felt great!. Also, what if I skip the deep conditioning step and do something like this: clarify with bs and TJTTT (20 mins) clay mix (60 or more mins) Wash then KCKT, Hair dew, KCCC. Basically am I missing out by not DC? I feel like I could skip that step and shave off an hour. I will test this routine tonight.

Side note: someone mentioned a good consistency of KCCC looking like water ice. I tried and did not get crunch. Yaaaaassssss
 
DeeLiteFulEKinky said:
Sunday was wash day and hubby was pissed off that I was taking so long. He was like " are you going to be doing this all the time now?".
I told him I try to move as quickly as possible but there are a lot of steps and wait time. He does agree however that my hair has been looking good lately.
I reminded him that I can do my hair during the week a few hours before bed (my preference) but all last week he was like " when you coming to bed?"
I can't win.
Our compromise is that I do it during the week. I may have to sleep with something in and finish up the rest the next day so I'm not taking as long at night.
Anyone sleep with their clay mix in? I left it in for over an hour Sunday cause DH was annoyed. As it turned out my hair felt great!. Also, what if I skip the deep conditioning step and do something like this: clarify with bs and TJTTT (20 mins) clay mix (60 or more mins) Wash then KCKT, Hair dew, KCCC. Basically am I missing out by not DC? I feel like I could skip that step and shave off an hour. I will test this routine tonight.

Side note: someone mentioned a good consistency of KCCC looking like water ice. I tried and did not get crunch. Yaaaaassssss
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:lol:...
On the website, it did say that you could clarify, then cowash (instead of DC) and clay etc.. Some people do switch up the order of the clay step but Pinke Cube advised that it would work best the aforementioned way.
If it's working well for you..do what works:yep:.
Good news about the crunchlessness:woot:
 
AbsyBlvd said:
:lol:...
On the website, it did say that you could clarify, then cowash (instead of DC) and clay etc.. Some people do switch up the order of the clay step but Pinke Cube advised that it would work best the aforementioned way.
If it's working well for you..do what works:yep:.
Good news about the crunchlessness:woot:
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I honestly could hug you. I was really about to toss the KCCC cause I can't deal with crunch.
The first time I used it I used a ratio of 1:4 KCCC and water. Since I still had some left from that time I just filled the bottle with more water. It's probably 1:8 now or something like that.
When you put KCCC do you feel like it coats your hair? Like my hair felt creamy maybe even slick from the cream in the hair dew, then when I put the KCCC on it felt like the creaminess was gone and it felt clean. I can only describe it like when a blackboard is dirty and you use a wet sponge to wipe down the chalk residue. That slick look and feel. Okay, I don't know if this is making sense
 
tashboog said:
@nycutiepie Yes I am following Dubaidee's method. She says to use diluted AVJ for high porosity hair, but I tried the diluted AVJ and my hair doesn't like it. My hair air dries too crunchy with it. So since I use to use diluted ACV in the past for my hi po hair, I've decided to use this as my conditioning step to close my cuticles before applying my gels. I use a very diluted ACV mix : 8 oz of distilled water and 1/4 tsp of ACV which gives me a pH of 5 to properly close my cuticles after clay washing. Most people don't realize that when you have high porosity and do a final ACV rinse that you're suppose to actually leave it in and not rinse it out. If you do the ACV rinse then use water to rinse it out then your changing the pH back to neutral and no longer closing the cuticle unless you use a leave in that has a low pH. Therefore, it's counterproductive for hi po ladies and that's why we still lose moisture after doing an ACV rinse. I always use a heavily diluted ACV mix for my hair when I leave it in. I think there was a thread about this back in the day where nonie did the same thing for her hair.
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This is a good explanation @tashboog and now I'm thinking about the ph of KKNT both full-strength and diluted. Does anyone know? I keep forgetting to get some ph strips.
 
nycutiepie said:
This is a good explanation @tashboog and now I'm thinking about the ph of KKNT both full-strength and diluted. Does anyone know? I keep forgetting to get some ph strips.
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It's a 7 undiluted, which is why kimmaytube used avg or avj to bring the PH down. If you dilute it with water it probably is still a 7 because the PH of most water is 7.

You really only want to bring the PH of your leave-in down if you are high porosity. Otherwise leave it as it is and make sure that your gel step is a lower porosity of 4.5 to 5.5.
 
faithVA said:
It's a 7 undiluted, which is why kimmaytube used avg or avj to bring the PH down. If you dilute it with water it probably is still a 7 because the PH of most water is 7.

You really only want to bring the PH of your leave-in down if you are high porosity. Otherwise leave it as it is and make sure that your gel step is a lower porosity of 4.5 to 5.5.
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Thanks @faithVA . Last question :look:. What is the ph of KCC , As I Am and most gels in general?
 
My hair can be bunny tailed :bouncy: this is the point in my journey where I get super lazy and wet bun until eternity. But i'm going to resist a little while longer. I can't believe i've been wash n going for 5 months now with amazing progress. Even with my monthly micro trims I am able to realize health and growth because of a consistent MHM regi. That's my weekly MHM plug :) somebody needs to pay me!
 
Did a cherry lola treatment on my 4 day old flat iron. :mad: My hair felt soft but coated after rinsing it out and applying conditioner.

btw I do not miss straight hair at all! For me, its not worth the hassle while trying to workout 4x week and I hate wearing a cap in the shower and worrying about the edges curling up and what not.. Ima w-n-g girl!
 
I was determined to wash my hair last night. I only styled it twice during my heatless stretch (5 days) and I was already tired of retwisting. Plus I missed water on my hair.

After using the Type 4 creme and then using shea butter another day, I knew I'd be reaching for the shampoo again (I almost feel naughty but it's great adapting the regimen to suit my needs).

I dry detangled with fingers and a brush, and shampooed (diluted) in twists. Then I slathered on Shea Moisture Purification Masque and detangled some more. I didn't have a clue about how cleansing or moisturising the masque would be. I left this on for about 15-30mins to DC. Upon rinsing out, my hair felt moisturised but not all the way clean like when I use my clay. And my coils were only defined on the ends and my nape. There wasn't any more shrinkage than usual.

I mixed up some rhassoul, c.bentonite, and SAAs with water and ACV. After applying that, my hair was restored (read wash and go ready):lol:. I oil rinsed and finished with diluted KCCC.

I do like experimenting, but I'll be sticking with a wash a go for a little while:yep:. I said this before, but then I got distracted:look:.
 
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nycutiepie said:
Get the clay before you start. It is transformational!!
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Yes, I'd venture to say it's the most important product in the regimen. The one item that stays no matter how the method is modified. And probably the one item that most have never used at all or consistently before. I've used clay to wash my hair (nap85 style) before, but not like I use clay now.
 
I want to be able to rock a wash n go but I'll be damned if my hair doesn't need a shape up. When my hair is wet with clay it hangs and has almost a bob shape, when it dries and shrinkage takes over, ewww. It doesn't look good at all.

Eta: my hair looks odd when it dries becuase it's grown out from my taper cut when I big chopped almost 3 hrs ago. Shrinkage is not the cause for the ewww, it can sometimes make my hair look better
 
I had put the MHM on pause and wash the regular old way to clarify the oil and hairspray residue from a week-long rollerset out of my hair. Surprisingly my hair still looks and feels pretty good? I found some full fat plain yogurt so I'm back to doing the full MHM (complete with Cherry Lola treatment) this weekend. :drunk:

I mix coconut milk in my rhassoul clay but I'm intrigued by you all who include ACV too. I might give it a shot.
 
I had an amazing experience with highly diluted KCKT and Goddess Curls gel, but I want to see if I can replicate the results. I changed my clay recipe (no water, just AVJ, clay, and some slippery elm powder), so that might have been it too.

But I do have one result that I think I can share. So, the way my hair normally acts with gel, I end up with a million little crunchy spirals. There's enough clumping for the curls to be apparent from a distance, but my hair is really lightweight, so I get a bunch of shrinkage. Except for yesterday. I'm not sure if the elongation can from the product or the technique, but this is what happened.

My hair was divided into 6 sections. I split each section in half and applied both products, thoroughly smoothed and raked. The result was a foamy wavy mass. I clipped it down with a little banana clip thingy and moved on the the other half, combined both halves, smoothed and raked again, clipped. I didn't separate anything. As it dried, the curls separated themselves and the roots stayed stretched. When completely dry, my hair was soft, yet well defined and elongated. I was well-pleased. :yep:

note: my step 1, as always, was a shampoo. this time, aussie moist.
 
Honey Bee said:
I had an amazing experience with highly diluted KCKT and Goddess Curls gel, but I want to see if I can replicate the results. I changed my clay recipe (no water, just AVJ, clay, and some slippery elm powder), so that might have been it too.

But I do have one result that I think I can share. So, the way my hair normally acts with gel, I end up with a million little crunchy spirals. There's enough clumping for the curls to be apparent from a distance, but my hair is really lightweight, so I get a bunch of shrinkage. Except for yesterday. I'm not sure if the elongation can from the product or the technique, but this is what happened.

My hair was divided into 6 sections. I split each section in half and applied both products, thoroughly smoothed and raked. The result was a foamy wavy mass. I clipped it down with a little banana clip thingy and moved on the the other half, combined both halves, smoothed and raked again, clipped. I didn't separate anything. As it dried, the curls separated themselves and the roots stayed stretched. When completely dry, my hair was soft, yet well defined and elongated. I was well-pleased. :yep:

note: my step 1, as always, was a shampoo. this time, aussie moist.
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You got me thinking. I am very shrinkage prone especially in the back so maybe I should take more time to rake and smooth product on my hair in those areas.
 
DeeLiteFulEKinky said:
Yes, I'd venture to say it's the most important product in the regimen. The one item that stays no matter how the method is modified. And probably the one item that most have never used at all or consistently before. I've used clay to wash my hair (nap85 style) before, but not like I use clay now.
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What is the difference?
 
snoop said:
What is the difference?
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When I tried using clay before it was more like how you would apply shampoo or a wash out conditioner. So, I applied it, got my hair coated and washed it out. It wasn't as thick as my current mix is now. Back then it was more watery and now it's like cake batter. I do still use the same add-ins that nap85 mentioned except for the AVJ.
 
sweetpea7 said:
Did a cherry lola treatment on my 4 day old flat iron. :mad: My hair felt soft but coated after rinsing it out and applying conditioner.

btw I do not miss straight hair at all! For me, its not worth the hassle while trying to workout 4x week and I hate wearing a cap in the shower and worrying about the edges curling up and what not.. Ima w-n-g girl!
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I agree. I've had my hair straight for about a week and I'm basically at a standstill due to fear of reversion. But I do love the fact that all I have to do is take off my bonnet and go.
 
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