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AbsyBlvd said:
How long have you been doing the method, again? You got great definition with your twists.

After the clay rinse I see you've got some separation starting to happen with your strands.

Just wondering, have you tested the pH of your conditioner mix you use after the clay?
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I'm not sure if this is directed at me. If not then ignore.

I've been doing this method for 3 weeks but clay washing weekly for 3 years. I would often clay wash with my hair in mini twists. (I prefer washing in twists instead of unbound).

I haven't figured out the gel component yet. So I'm having trouble sealing moisture in. So far it seems that this method is all about frequent washing, training your hair to separate/clump, and using water soluble products (no heavy oils).
 
snoop said:
I'm not sure if this is directed at me. If not then ignore.

I've been doing this method for 3 weeks but clay washing weekly for 3 years. I would often clay wash with my hair in mini twists. (I prefer washing in twists instead of unbound).

I haven't figured out the gel component yet. So I'm having trouble sealing moisture in. So far it seems that this method is all about frequent washing, training your hair to separate/clump, and using water soluble products (no heavy oils).
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Yes @snoop this was for you:)

Its early days yet, but you're a clay veteran:lol:.

I also tried using bentonite clay before I found MHM, but my mix used to be much much thicker and never had the same effect as now. I like to wash loose as I don't get the clay all out of my twists- I've had that scenario where I've been scratching dried clay out of my hair in public:lol:.

The gel really does seal the hair. I started doing MHM with the bald spot regimen and wigging it so I didn't use gel but I think the bag constantly on my head definitely helped my hair retain the moisture.

MHM talks about hydrating the hair- actually retaining the moisture we all work to put into our hair through a set order and use of products, but you can break it down like you did (especially with all the shingling involved). By using water soluble products, we don't have to use harsh products that may strip our hair too much and continue the cycle of having dehydrated hair.

My hair used to shrink something rotten when wet, I think because it was dry/ dehydrated (from products and lack of water). In 2006, I had apl hair that became a 2inch dense fro that would break me out in sweats trying to manage. This method and regimen has done so much for my understanding of ingredients in products and methods, and how they could/ will work for my hair.

ETA: Wow this is long, sorry guys smh.
 
Happy Mothers Day MHMers! I'm up enjoying my burnt sage sausage and grits and being showered in cards and essay's (ESSAYS?) from my 5 yr old...I actually shed a tear, she's so sweet sometimes.

I'm rocking 2nd day hair after my latest round of MHM. I'm very pleased with my results after "proper protein" My super duper thirsty areas are a little more hydrated than usual. This is what my hair was waiting for and I plan to experiment to find the best source of protein for my hair.

Enjoy the day ladies!
 
AbsyBlvd said:
Yes @snoop this was for you:)

Its early days yet, but you're a clay veteran:lol:.

I also tried using bentonite clay before I found MHM, but my mix used to be much much thicker and never had the same effect as now. I like to wash loose as I don't get the clay all out of my twists- I've had that scenario where I've been scratching dried clay out of my hair in public:lol:.

The gel really does seal the hair. I started doing MHM with the bald spot regimen and wigging it so I didn't use gel but I think the bag constantly on my head definitely helped my hair retain the moisture.

MHM talks about hydrating the hair- actually retaining the moisture we all work to put into our hair through a set order and use of products, but you can break it down like you did (especially with all the shingling involved). By using water soluble products, we don't have to use harsh products that may strip our hair too much and continue the cycle of having dehydrated hair.

My hair used to shrink something rotten when wet, I think because it was dry/ dehydrated (from products and lack of water). In 2006, I had apl hair that became a 2inch dense fro that would break me out in sweats trying to manage. This method and regimen has done so much for my understanding of ingredients in products and methods, and how they could/ will work for my hair.

ETA: Wow this is long, sorry guys smh.
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When I first started clay washing I used Terressentials, so I was using bentonite. I've never been able to replicate based on what they say that they use. I want to try to replicate Mud Puddle because the consistency was the best for washing out. The more that I think about it, the more that I like the consistency of kaolin. It was so smooth! I ordered some goat milk powder to try since I figure that would save on the coconut milk.

I tried water only washing for a month, right before this. Frequent washing/daily washing I think works on my hair.

I don't think that I want to achieve a wash n go. My roots are still wet from last night from yesterday's WNG, but the rest of my hair feels nice and soft. I"m going to try to achieve max hydration while maintaining bound stretched styles.
 
snoop said:
When I first started clay washing I used Terressentials, so I was using bentonite. I've never been able to replicate based on what they say that they use. I want to try to replicate Mud Puddle because the consistency was the best for washing out. The more that I think about it, the more that I like the consistency of kaolin. It was so smooth! I ordered some goat milk powder to try since I figure that would save on the coconut milk.

I tried water only washing for a month, right before this. Frequent washing/daily washing I think works on my hair.

I don't think that I want to achieve a wash n go. My roots are still wet from last night from yesterday's WNG, but the rest of my hair feels nice and soft. I"m going to try to achieve max hydration while maintaining bound stretched styles.
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I'm not sure wng styling works for me either. I mentioned before that my hair shrinks a lot and has a weird shape when dry, so twist outs look a bit better. Also, my hair is still wet in the morning after twisting the night belfre. And if I try a wng my hair is wet all day into the night. I need to try curlforming my hair or flexirods or something. I feel like I'm in a style rut.
 
So I did another clct treatment but I left it in over night and my curls were clumping so good. This is the second time I did an over night treatment and each time it seems like it helps improve my hydration. My clay is finally starting to clump my curls after the clct. I tried a new gel and it workd so good on my braid out today. The gel is called Smooth Naturals Hair Perfection. Smooth Naturals is by youtube jcokes7 aka coilyheadchick. I used her products before MHM with good results cuz she rarely use glycerin in her products. I believe the hair perfection is approved cuz I only see castor oil and panthenol as potential issues.
Ingredients: Aloe Vera Juice ,Water Infused with Horsetail, Nettle and Marshmallow Root, Olive Oil, Castor, Oil, Jojoba Oil, Vitamin E, Agave Nectar, Xanthan Gum, Honey Quat, Optiphen(preservative), ProVitamin B5, Potassium Sorbate, Citric Acid and Fragrance.

I've been on this MHM journey for a year and I still have a long ways to go before I reach hydration. After rinsing out the clay, my hair is still froish even after a year on this regimen. However, all I can do is just be consistent and have patience until hydration comes :yep:. I have no idea what's my hair type but I'm pretty sure I'm a type 4.

The 1st pic is with clay and 2nd pic is after rinsing out the clay. As you can see the definition goes away after rinsing out the clay :sad:.
 

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nycutiepie said:
This post just turned on a lightbulb. My hair is shrinking to about 1 inch which I HATE and which is why I put my wig right back on yesterday. I'm wondering if it's the KKNT? Does anybody know. I did the modified but I used the KKNT full strength and the KCC full strength. What part of this regimen causes the shrinkage because I don't have that much shrinkage otherwise? Perhaps I need to try the As I Am gel?
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I started this regimen using kknt and my hair always shrunk. Once dubaidee4c suggested to skip the leave in and just use gel (kccc) it was like night and day where my hair didn't shrink up at all.
 
tashboog said:
So I did another clct treatment but I left it in over night and my curls were clumping so good. This is the second time I did an over night treatment and each time it seems like it helps improve my hydration. My clay is finally starting to clump my curls after the clct. I tried a new gel and it workd so good on my braid out today. The gel is called Smooth Naturals Hair Perfection. Smooth Naturals is by youtube jcokes7 aka coilyheadchick. I used her products before MHM with good results cuz she rarely use glycerin in her products. I believe the hair perfection is approved cuz I only see castor oil and panthenol as potential issues.
Ingredients: Aloe Vera Juice ,Water Infused with Horsetail, Nettle and Marshmallow Root, Olive Oil, Castor, Oil, Jojoba Oil, Vitamin E, Agave Nectar, Xanthan Gum, Honey Quat, Optiphen(preservative), ProVitamin B5, Potassium Sorbate, Citric Acid and Fragrance.

I've been on this MHM journey for a year and I still have a long ways to go before I reach hydration. After rinsing out the clay, my hair is still froish even after a year on this regimen. However, all I can do is just be consistent and have patience until hydration comes :yep:. I have no idea what's my hair type but I'm pretty sure I'm a type 4.

The 1st pic is with clay and 2nd pic is after rinsing out the clay. As you can see the definition goes away after rinsing out the clay :sad:.
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@tashboog Your hair is looking good with and without clay:).

Cattypus1 said:
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Today is my nappyversary! 1 year post BC! Thanks to MHM (Dec 2014) this is what my hair looks like after a water rinse and nothing else. (I'm all sweaty because I just finished my 2-mile walk-gotta start somewhere). Happy Momma's Day, Ladies! Shrinkage is the devil!
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And @Cattypus1 you and your hair are looking fabulous.

Great progress! So many great heads of hair, I love it.
 
Whew! Had 8 pages to read to catch up since I've been here last. Seems like everyone is making some good progress. As for me, I finally got around to doing a flexirod set last weekend and though it came out nice (forgot to take pics) it was way too much work compared to what I'm used to now. I washed it out a day later and did a wng. So I've been doing the modified method for a minute now but I decided to try a leave-in recently after getting crunchy hair a few times. I've come to realize that there are some gels that dry better with leave-ins for my hair. So sometimes I use it sometimes I don't. With all the talk about protein, I'm wondering if I should do some sort of treatment. I haven't done the clct in about 2 mos or any dc'ing for that matter and my hair is doing great. Just curious, when do you know if your hair needs protein?
 
hairtimes5 said:
Whew! Had 8 pages to read to catch up since I've been here last. Seems like everyone is making some good progress. As for me, I finally got around to doing a flexirod set last weekend and though it came out nice (forgot to take pics) it was way too much work compared to what I'm used to now. I washed it out a day later and did a wng. So I've been doing the modified method for a minute now but I decided to try a leave-in recently after getting crunchy hair a few times. I've come to realize that there are some gels that dry better with leave-ins for my hair. So sometimes I use it sometimes I don't. With all the talk about protein, I'm wondering if I should do some sort of treatment. I haven't done the clct in about 2 mos or any dc'ing for that matter and my hair is doing great. Just curious, when do you know if your hair needs protein?
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I knew I needed protein when certain parts of my hair- mainly my crown and the front- looked limp, like there was less curl definition in those areas. Almost like my coils were dropping. I don't use heat and I don't really stretch my hair so I was suspicious:sekret: lol.

Ok so I've never overdone my use of the CLCT but when I did one, I didn't really notice a change and my hair still looked kind of flat except for the ends. When I used a keratin protein conditioner, my coils came back to life and my hair actually feels a little stronger- especially in my problem areas.
 
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I knew I needed more protein because more moisture wasn't working. With regular DC treatments and almost daily cowashing my hair was still not accepting moisture in certain spots. After a full MHM treatment those areas would still lack definition and hydration. Protein seems to make my hair more readily acceptable of moisture.

Enjoyong a fresh wash n go this morning. Pics when it dries a little later. I'm trying not to touch it at all!
 
Thank you ladies. Based on your responses I don't need to do a protein treatment. It's so interesting to see how some things get so ingrained in you, especially as it pertains to natural hair, that you feel weird when you don't do them. I only use conditioner on occasion, don't use oils and haven't dc'ed in mos and my hair is really thriving. I keep thinking, is this a fluke? Is this going to backfire on me? At any rate, my hair is really healthy right now. I think cutting the color out helped too.
 
Cattypus1 said:
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Today is my nappyversary! 1 year post BC! Thanks to MHM (Dec 2014) this is what my hair looks like after a water rinse and nothing else. (I'm all sweaty because I just finished my 2-mile walk-gotta start somewhere). Happy Momma's Day, Ladies! Shrinkage is the devil!
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Happy 1 year Nappyversary @Cattypus1!!!! Your hair looks great and has grown soo much!! I would be so happy if my product free hair had pretty coils like that though it is improving some.
 
KiWiStyle said:
Happy 1 year Nappyversary @Cattypus1!!!! Your hair looks great and has grown soo much!! I would be so happy if my product free hair had pretty coils like that though it is improving some.
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Thanks @KiWiStyle. I have the teeniest, tiniest, little pen spring coils ever and I just have to accept that. Thanks to MHM I'm not a fuzzy puffball and I'm retaining better than ever.
 
DeeLiteFulEKinky said:
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results from yesterday's lazy wash.
I co washed, then clay, then took pics.
An example of high density, low prosity, medium to coarse haired chick.
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Yes, our hair is very similar, especially the density, porosity! My hairs may be finer than yours and yours is slightly looser I think so you're getting clumps faster than I did! Beautiful!!
 
AbsyBlvd said:
While my hair was stretched I dusted it twice! The first was only light, on those raggedy looking ends the curlformers didn't set. The second, was after I went back and put in some two strand twists and took off the ends.

So here's my hair after my DC session last night, and clay/oil/gel today. First 2 pics after I finish, still soaking wet. The last are a few hrs later.
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Beautiful! It looks nice and full. It was rainy yesterday so my hair pouffed up. I didn't get a close up but here is a pic (with my daughter being silly!)
 

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