MHM Hangout

[GGsKin]

@Holla4mom when I saw the lower pic it did remind me of your hair in terms of density/ texture maybe. It's hard to tell with a twist out.

 

[DeeLiteFulEKinky]

I've been used rhassoul and pink clay. This last wash was rhassoul and I really don't know. Maybe it's just my washing skills? I use a stick blender to mix. The clays are kind of grainy after but homogenous. I'm hoping to try kaolin this weekend and see if I like it. (Hopefully, "yes" since I ordered twice as much as I'd intended.)

I also think that I'll go back to my regular routine (clay wash and conditioner rinse), but use the MHM technique for applying the clay and conditioner. Sandy hair is not sexy.

What temp is your water? I also have a grainy but homogenous texture to my clay mix but I use really warm almost hot water.

 

[DeeLiteFulEKinky]

I don't think my hair likes cowashing so I haven't done that for a good while. However, I am sleeping with a conditioner DC mix tonight, after using a protein conditioner (I decided to have a late night start). I didn't clarify beforehand- just water rinsed.

My hair seems to do just fine if I do this occasionally. Considering I used diluted shampoo on my last wash, I didn't feel there was a real need to clarify this time. I'll see how my hair looks after clay tomorrow.

I don't use a leave in. Just oil rinse and gel.

Tell me more about this oil rinse business. Please and thank you

 

[DeeLiteFulEKinky]

Okay, thanks for sharing. That explains why your PH is higher. I use about 2 oz of ACV, 4 tbsp of clay/sage/milk powder/slippery elm mix, and the rest water. (I fill up a 16 oz applicator bottle). I'm using about 25 "half teaspoon" of ACV to your 1, so I'm thinking that is bringing my PH down a lot.

Is it still smooth and relatively thin with just the 1/2 teaspoon of ACV?

It's like cake batter but it does have a bit of graininess to it. Maybe the warm water helps dissolve it??

 

[DeeLiteFulEKinky]

@Holla4mom when I saw the lower pic it did remind me of your hair in terms of density/ texture maybe. It's hard to tell with a twist out.

I'll post a freshly washed pic from yesterday. No product

 

[GGsKin]

Tell me more about this oil rinse business. Please and thank you

Ok. After I've rinsed the clay and let the water run over my hair for a bit, I pour a little grapeseed oil in my palm, take a section and rub through the length of my hair. Then I pour a good amount of sunflower oil in my palm and dip the ends of that section. I run the light remains over the bottom length. I'll do this in four sections and clip them up.

I'll usually keep busy washing myself or something, letting it sit for a few minutes. Then I'll let the water run over my head before getting out. I like to add the gel to my hair soaking wet so I will pass the shower head over it if it's not super wet/dripping.

 

[DeeLiteFulEKinky]

Ok. After I've rinsed the clay and let the water run over my hair for a bit, I pour a little grapeseed oil in my palm, take a section and rub through the length of my hair. Then I pour a good amount of sunflower oil in my palm and dip the ends of that section. I run the light remains over the bottom length. I'll do this in four sections and clip them up.

I'll usually keep busy washing myself or something, letting it sit for a few minutes. Then I'll let the water run over my head before getting out. I like to add the gel to my hair soaking wet so I will pass the shower head over it if it's not super wet/dripping.

So you don't use conditioner or leave ins either? I need to try the oil rinse, at least to say I tried it

 

[snoop]

What temp is your water? I also have a grainy but homogenous texture to my clay mix but I use really warm almost hot water.

I usually mix it with boiled (on the stove) coconut cream/milk or I in a rush it's heated in the microwave. I find that the milk works better for me than just water.

I think it's grainy die to the nature of the clay. I just washed with kaolin and it was very smooth. Nothing settled to the bottom of my bottle.

 

[DeeLiteFulEKinky]

I usually mix it with boiled (on the stove) coconut cream/milk or I in a rush it's heated in the microwave. I find that the milk works better for me than just water.

I think it's grainy die to the nature of the clay. I just washed with kaolin and it was very smooth. Nothing settled to the bottom of my bottle.

Oops, I actually mean when you wash your clay out, is the temp warm to hot. But I do also use warm to hot water in my mix to melt the honey as it's solid

 

[GGsKin]

So you don't use conditioner or leave ins either? I need to try the oil rinse, at least to say I tried it

Yeah, I water rinse, clay, oil, gel.

I'll use conditioner as needed but it's not part of my main regimen- DubaiDee4c's modification. I stated before that I no longer notice as much effect with the cherry lola as I do with a protein conditioner, so this has been my protein shot on the last 2 occasions. I've still got some frozen, I don't know if/ when I'll use it.

I only tried the modified because something wasn't right for me and my hair was looking dull/ dry.

 

[PuddingPop]

OMG. This method is the TRUTH. I just completed my first cycle and I am absolutely in love with my hair so far. Now the true test comes when it dries completely but that wont be for days judging by how much water I used . . Time consuming? YES, but it's worth every minute. I'm very pleased, even with the explosion and all .

1. Which regimen are you doing? Pinkecube MHM, But I did decided to do one off wash with clarifying shampoo before the CLCT as suggested by DubaiDee

2. When did you start the regimen? 5/8/2015

3. How often do you do the method? Iv'e just done it once so far. I want to do it for 7 days straight as suggested but I don't see that happening. I'll complete my second cycle tomorrow then do it every 3 days from there

4. Benefits seen so far- My hair is like night and day, even after just one treatment. It's actually soft for the first time ever and I have curls that I never knew I had.


List your steps and products. New comers may find this helpful when looking at products and modifications.
1. Washed with V05 Key lime Clarifying shampoo
2. Applied CLCT for 2 hours, Rinsed
3. Applied Diluted Kinky Curly Knot Today for dc step ( 2 oz product, 6 oz water), DC'd overnight, Rinsed
4. Applied Bentonite Clay Mixture ( 1 cup clay, 3 cups warm water, 1 tsp honey and evoo), left on for 45 minutes, Rinsed
5. Applied diluted Kinky Curly Knot Today ( 1 oz product, 6 oz water) and diluted Kinky Curly Curl Curling Custard ( 1 oz product, 5 oz water)

 

[DeeLiteFulEKinky]

results from yesterday's lazy wash.
I co washed, then clay, then took pics.
An example of high density, low prosity, medium to coarse haired chick.

 

[DeeLiteFulEKinky]

Yeah, I water rinse, clay, oil, gel.

I'll use conditioner as needed but it's not part of my main regimen- DubaiDee4c's modification. I stated before that I no longer notice as much effect with the cherry lola as I do with a protein conditioner, so this has been my protein shot on the last 2 occasions. I've still got some frozen, I don't know if/ when I'll use it.

I only tried the modified because something wasn't right for me and my hair was looking dull/ dry.

Thank you for explaining. I'm noticing that maybe conditioner or any leave in AFTER clay makes my hair fluffier/ less defined/less clumped. So I will try oil rinsing after clay then KCCC and see what happens. It doesn't hurt either that I love grapeseed oil and have that and safflower oil at home already. Next wash... Monday?

 

[GGsKin]

While my hair was stretched I dusted it twice! The first was only light, on those raggedy looking ends the curlformers didn't set. The second, was after I went back and put in some two strand twists and took off the ends.

So here's my hair after my DC session last night, and clay/oil/gel today. First 2 pics after I finish, still soaking wet. The last are a few hrs later.

 

[snoop]

Here are the results of today's wash.

 

[GGsKin]

results from yesterday's lazy wash.
I co washed, then clay, then took pics.
An example of high density, low prosity, medium to coarse haired chick.

You hair looks great. It doesn't hurt to give it a try, especially if you're looking for less frizz

 

[DeeLiteFulEKinky]

OMG. This method is the TRUTH. I just completed my first cycle and I am absolutely in love with my hair so far. Now the true test comes when it dries completely but that wont be for days judging by how much water I used . . Time consuming? YES, but it's worth every minute. I'm very pleased, even with the explosion and all .

1. Which regimen are you doing? Pinkecube MHM, But I did decided to do one off wash with clarifying shampoo before the CLCT as suggested by DubaiDee

2. When did you start the regimen? 5/8/2015

3. How often do you do the method? Iv'e just done it once so far. I want to do it for 7 days straight as suggested but I don't see that happening. I'll complete my second cycle tomorrow then do it every 3 days from there

4. Benefits seen so far- My hair is like night and day, even after just one treatment. It's actually soft for the first time ever and I have curls that I never knew I had.


List your steps and products. New comers may find this helpful when looking at products and modifications.
1. Washed with V05 Key lime Clarifying shampoo
2. Applied CLCT for 2 hours, Rinsed
3. Applied Diluted Kinky Curly Knot Today for dc step ( 2 oz product, 6 oz water), DC'd overnight, Rinsed
4. Applied Bentonite Clay Mixture ( 1 cup clay, 3 cups warm water, 1 tsp honey and evoo), left on for 45 minutes, Rinsed
5. Applied diluted Kinky Curly Knot Today ( 1 oz product, 6 oz water) and diluted Kinky Curly Curl Curling Custard ( 1 oz product, 5 oz water)
.

Yes! Isn't it exciting?

 

[DeeLiteFulEKinky]

Here are the results of today's wash.

Interesting. Is this ur first try with that clay?

 

[DeeLiteFulEKinky]

While my hair was stretched I dusted it twice! The first was only light, on those raggedy looking ends the curlformers didn't set. The second, was after I went back and put in some two strand twists and took off the ends.

So here's my hair after my DC session last night, and clay/oil/gel today. First 2 images are wet straight after. Last image (both shots) a few hrs later.

I could look at hair pics all day!

 

[GGsKin]

Here are the results of today's wash.

Your result pics look like they should be in reverse order. Have you been having good results with the pink and rhassoul clays? Or was this the kaolin clay?

 

[GGsKin]

I could look at hair pics all day!

Me too me too *Oprah voice

 

[GGsKin]

I usually mix it with boiled (on the stove) coconut cream/milk or I in a rush it's heated in the microwave. I find that the milk works better for me than just water.

I think it's grainy die to the nature of the clay. I just washed with kaolin and it was very smooth. Nothing settled to the bottom of my bottle.

Also, do you use ACV in your mix? The ACV makes it less grainy and more smooth

 

[snoop]

Interesting. Is this ur first try with that clay?

Yes. I need to experiment more with it though. I felt like it got my hair very clean, but I'm not sure if that is good it bad yet. I'll try mixing with rhassoul at some point.

 

[snoop]

Also, do you use ACV in yor mix? The ACV makes it less grainy and more smooth

I'm have to try AVC in my mic and see.

 

[snoop]

Your result pics look like they should be in reverse order. Have you been having good results with the pink and rhassoul clays? Or was this the kaolin clay?

You would think....!

So the first pic: I did a clay wash last Sunday then put my hair in chunky twists. During the week I did a few water only washes without taking out the twists. The first picture is a result of taking out the twist. (They were loose twists.) I didn't use waffled between using gel/no gel and/or a little broccoli seed oil to seal.

My hair felt very soft after washing. No definition just cloud-like. I pulled up a picture of what my hair looks like after a rhassoul wash and it isn't that much different. I'm going to try to twist my hair again and see if the stretched hair and frequent water washing gives me that definition again....

 

[GGsKin]

How long have you been doing the method, again? You got great definition with your twists.

After the clay rinse I see you've got some separation starting to happen with your strands.

Just wondering, have you tested the pH of your conditioner mix you use after the clay?

 

[DeeLiteFulEKinky]

You would think....!

So the first pic: I did a clay wash last Sunday then put my hair in chunky twists. During the week I did a few water only washes without taking out the twists. The first picture is a result of taking out the twist. (They were loose twists.) I didn't use waffled between using gel/no gel and/or a little broccoli seed oil to seal.

My hair felt very soft after washing. No definition just cloud-like. I pulled up a picture of what my hair looks like after a rhassoul wash and it isn't that much different. I'm going to try to twist my hair again and see if the stretched hair and frequent water washing gives me that definition again....

What does your hair look like when the clay is on it? I'm curious cause I've read somewhere that the way your hair looks like when the clay is on it gives you an idea of what max hydration could look like. Personally, I sure hope so. But would you be willing to take a pic of how your hair looks while clay is on it?

 

[GGsKin]

I'm have to try AVC in my mic and see.

Only a little bit is required as using a lot will thin out your clay and make it runny. When I used to make a batter type mix, I'd only use a splash of ACV (the bottle has one of those limiter-type tops) and my mix was all good.

I use a fair bit more now.

 

[Cattypus1]

results from yesterday's lazy wash.
I co washed, then clay, then took pics.
An example of high density, low prosity, medium to coarse haired chick.

Love, love, love...

 

[snoop]

What does your hair look like when the clay is on it? I'm curious cause I've read somewhere that the way your hair looks like when the clay is on it gives you an idea of what max hydration could look like. Personally, I sure hope so. But would you be willing to take a pic of how your hair looks while clay is on it?

I will try the clay wash again next weekend. I think I need to make it ticket though. Dubaidee's recipe is nice and runny which makes it easier to rinse out bit I think I might get slightly better results if it is thicker.