Low Porosity Support Thread
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uofmpanther
4ab, lopo, fine, low-med density
Shay72
Natural, 4A
--Share your hair background
4a, fine haired natural
--What symptoms is your hair exhibiting?
Takes forever to dry
Takes a little bit to actually get wet
Some products sit on hair
--What have you tried that worked?
LOC method on wet & dry hair
Liquid leave ins
ACV rinses
Mud washes
All natural products
Ayurvedic powders
Teas
--What have you tried that did not work?
Silicones
Non natural products
--What questions do you have?
I'm going to look back through the thread to see how often people are using ACV rinses
4a, fine haired natural
--What symptoms is your hair exhibiting?
Takes forever to dry
Takes a little bit to actually get wet
Some products sit on hair
--What have you tried that worked?
LOC method on wet & dry hair
Liquid leave ins
ACV rinses
Mud washes
All natural products
Ayurvedic powders
Teas
--What have you tried that did not work?
Silicones
Non natural products
--What questions do you have?
I'm going to look back through the thread to see how often people are using ACV rinses
Shay72
Natural, 4A
Thank you @uofmpanther
bluenvy
Well-Known Member
--What symptoms is your hair exhibiting?
I lightly fluff my hair up and down while water runs down to get soaking wet. It takes more than a day to air dry. My hair floats in water. If I run my fingers up hair shaft it feels smooth.
--What have you tried that worked?
In four sections, weekly washing, and detangle with slippery conditioner.
Followed up with deep condition with heat, moisturize and seal while hair is wet.
My hair stays moisturized for couple days if I twist, braid, or bun after I moisturize and seal.
If not, say a wng my hair feel and looks dried out the next day.
Also clarifying once or every two weeks. Even though I use minimal products my hair is prone to buildup. I believe by natural sebum.
Hair also likes cowashing.
--What have you tried that did not work?
My hair hates overnight prepoo and baggy. My head itch up a storm doing this. My hair don't like long term protective styles, braids, twist, updos etc. Hair gets crazy itchy if I go a week without washing.
--What questions do you have?
Still figuring out proper moisture/protein balance.
I protein with Aphogee two step every few months. I use other protein like cholesterol treatments every 2-3 weeks. Always followed with deep condition.
I lightly fluff my hair up and down while water runs down to get soaking wet. It takes more than a day to air dry. My hair floats in water. If I run my fingers up hair shaft it feels smooth.
--What have you tried that worked?
In four sections, weekly washing, and detangle with slippery conditioner.
Followed up with deep condition with heat, moisturize and seal while hair is wet.
My hair stays moisturized for couple days if I twist, braid, or bun after I moisturize and seal.
If not, say a wng my hair feel and looks dried out the next day.
Also clarifying once or every two weeks. Even though I use minimal products my hair is prone to buildup. I believe by natural sebum.
Hair also likes cowashing.
--What have you tried that did not work?
My hair hates overnight prepoo and baggy. My head itch up a storm doing this. My hair don't like long term protective styles, braids, twist, updos etc. Hair gets crazy itchy if I go a week without washing.
--What questions do you have?
Still figuring out proper moisture/protein balance.
I protein with Aphogee two step every few months. I use other protein like cholesterol treatments every 2-3 weeks. Always followed with deep condition.
Saludable84
Better Late Than Ugly
It's a bit hard to find, but stuff with honey works well for my hair. If I could find the patience to apply honey to my hair after applying conditioner, I'm sure I would see way better conditioning results.
faithVA
Well-Known Member
You add honey to your conditioner and have it done in 1 step.
Saludable84
Better Late Than Ugly
ive done that, but I hate mixing. I'm so lazy
I also hate mixing because if I mix too little in screwed and if I mix too much I won't save it for the next week. So I just layer the stuff on. Unless I just mix the whole container as soon as I get it? I use honey to wash my face, so I keep it in the shower anyway.Evolving78
Well-Known Member
Ya'll I bought some dove shampoo and conditioner! Lol I'm going to shampoo later, then give myself a protein treatment with ORS, then use the dove conditioner for moisture.
GGsKin
Well-Known Member
Random: Just hearing Dove is like a blast from my past. As a relaxed head, I used to use a Dove shampoo and conditioner (I loved that stuff) back in the day! It worked amazing for a while and then not so much and my hair started breaking so I stopped using it because I never really suffered from breakage.
Saludable84
Better Late Than Ugly
Likewise, but I still searched all these years for a SLS free poo. I get better conditioning results with sulfates.
faithVA
Well-Known Member
Which shampoo and conditioner you using.
Saludable84
Better Late Than Ugly
Normally I was using Paul Mitchell Shampoo One. I use a variety of conditioners but Silk Dreams and Annabelles Perfect Blends where the main ones I was using when using that poo. Now, Im using Camille Rose Naturals Cleansing Rinse. I notice with this poo, I get good conditioning results if I let it sit for a while. With the PM, I didnt need more than 30 minutes conditioning. I was also able to wash less with PM. Not so much with CRN. So for a while I was washing 1x/2wks with PM. I realized I didnt need to wash if I refreshed and limited manipulation. Also had less product buildup over time even with gel use daily and custards/butters. Now, Im back to 1x/1wk with careful watching on build-up using the same products.
I will say though, my main reason for sticking with the no SLS poo..... less protein use
Saludable84
Better Late Than Ugly
Any of you tried the Dickey Method with good results? I feel like using a cleansing cream and conditioning for 5 minutes along with applying stuff when hair is super wet.... May not work. Looking for some feedback if any.
GGsKin
Well-Known Member
I've seen the vid of his method. I don't use tools but I do always apply my gel to soaking wet hair. Great resilts every time.
Saludable84
Better Late Than Ugly
Ok. I mean, applying styler to wet hair I get, but I'm thinking about the cream cleanser and 5 minute conditioning.
GGsKin
Well-Known Member
Oh ok. I'm yet to use a cleansing cream so no comment there
. I don't condition with every wash so I can attest to little or no conditioning before styling works for me.Saludable84
Better Late Than Ugly
Like, how? LmaoOh ok. I'm yet to use a cleansing cream so no comment there
GGsKin
Well-Known Member
Lol More often I'll just clay wash or water rinse. I'll use conditioner when I henna, or if I'm doing a protein DC. But my hair suffers build up easily and looks/ feels better when I don't condition too often. No leave-ins. Early in my regimen, I was using Kinky Curly Knot Today (there are probably better ones) but after a while my hair started looking dull so I stopped, and saw improvement.
almond eyes
Well-Known Member
Kindly, what do you use then if you don't use leave in conditioners? What keeps your hair from drying out?
Best,
Almond eyes
GGsKin
Well-Known Member
I try to wash or wet my hair in the shower 2-3 times a week to keep it hydrated. I'll go down to once a week if I'm being lazy. After washing, I lightly oil my hair, let water run over it a little, then use diluted KCCC on soaking wet hair. The KCCC is my sealant.
faithVA
Well-Known Member
I have used cleansing creams and they work fine. I can't speak to that particular one. They are all very different. I tried Redkens Curvaceous no foam and liked that. Have used both of the As I Am they were OK.
I'm with AbsyBlvd on the conditioning. I condition after a protein treatment and when I use shampoo. I was deep conditioning every week but After doing MHM I found I did t need all of that conditioning. If I condition I don't use a leave in. If I skip the conditioner i use a leave in or a styler.
My hair doesn't seem to like too many layers. I don't rinse my hair often enough to skip the leave in.
Evolving78
Well-Known Member
I don't use leave-ins either, unless it's a spray.
I see there aren't many shampoos and conditioners I like. I actually like that castor oil shampoo from SM and the manuka mask? But that's just a treatment, not much slip. I use silicon mix to DC with. That so far has given me the most slip. I'm able to detangle with that, and it leaves my hair soft and moisturized.
Today I dc'ed, then applies SM curly smoothie. I used Garnier anti frizz serum.
I see there aren't many shampoos and conditioners I like. I actually like that castor oil shampoo from SM and the manuka mask? But that's just a treatment, not much slip. I use silicon mix to DC with. That so far has given me the most slip. I'm able to detangle with that, and it leaves my hair soft and moisturized.
Today I dc'ed, then applies SM curly smoothie. I used Garnier anti frizz serum.
junipertree
Well-Known Member
I feel like I read somewhere that steaming for low porosity hair is a no no. I have found that every time I steam my hair professionally my hair is super dry afterwards. But I read in this thread (I think @faithVA ) that stuff among for a few minutes is beneficial. Is that what I'm doing wrong? Steaming too long (20 minutes at the salon)
Saludable84
Better Late Than Ugly
Taking notes.
My sister told me MHM was really good for her 4C hair, but she has time for it. I dont really have time for it unless I start it early. Im at work right now, but I have the page open on my phone and was beginning to read on it and look at external links provided. I even bought clay to try it. I can see how it works, so I dont want to speak too soon. My problem is I have thick strands, so I worry about my hair drying out and having to wash, well rinse, during the week, which I hate doing.
Argh!!!! Ill keep looking into MHM.
Rastafarai
Well-Known Member
Ladies, which type of protein do you use for your protein treatment? In recent years, I have had major success with Aveda Intensive Reconstructor Mask (or something similar to that name) but I think they changed the formula because its much more watered-down and doesn't have the same effect.
I noted that the key protein in that product was quinoa protein, so I'm thinking of buying quinoa protein and using it on my hair to see what, if any, effect it has on my hair. I'm currently using Komaza Protein Treatment but it doesn't help my curls pop as the Aveda once did.
Has anyone ever used quinoa protein? If so, how did you like it?
I noted that the key protein in that product was quinoa protein, so I'm thinking of buying quinoa protein and using it on my hair to see what, if any, effect it has on my hair. I'm currently using Komaza Protein Treatment but it doesn't help my curls pop as the Aveda once did.
Has anyone ever used quinoa protein? If so, how did you like it?
Nightingale
On the Grow and Keeping it Simple
Steaming works great for me, better than body heat or heat cap DCing. You may not be doing anything wrong and steam just isn't effective for you.
Nightingale
On the Grow and Keeping it Simple
My low po hair likes quinoa, silk, and keratin protein. Soy is okay.
I've had good results with Ion Effective Care Treatment (the new formula, keratin) and Ingredients to Die For Reconstructing Cream (quinoa).
I'm testing out Biotera's Ultra Moisturizing Leave In (silk, soy). I don't like jumping in and out the shower, so I prefer a protein I can leave on, even if I have to use it more often than harder proteins.
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