Low Porosity Support Thread
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jennwantslonghurr
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Last night I moisturized my length with qb ctdg and sealed my ends with Silk Dreams nourish oil. I decided to revisit that oil since my hair is now balanced. I rolled my hair with 8 satin covered rollers (lazy lol) and my ends were so great this morning. Oiled my scalp with gso (along with a scalp massage) smoothed my hair into a ponytail and proceeded to roll and tuck. I will maintain these ends.
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hnntrr
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sorry long post!!!****
I think I have finally figured this out! So the hard water is def an issue (more so because it weighs my curls down, I noticed this tonight in the wash, when I washed at my parents house my hair did not 'hang' as much as it did tonight...some parts sections of hair were scraping my shoulderss (AHHHHH YAY) tonight but they didnt do that last week and I know I dint suddenly get 1/2 an inch of hair in like...5 days). It makes my hair a bit more frizzy and it shrinks my curls about 1/4 the size that they were in soft water.
Ultimately, now that I know it doesnt bother me too much. I love my hair regardless BUT I might look into getting a chelating shampoo and doing that every 2 months just to get deposits out my hair.
The good good good news is I think I finally got my regimen down (hopefully this wont change over the summer).
So I am:
Washing about twice a week, once without DC once with DC (wed & sat/sun).
Detangling and pre-pooing with conditioner.
Shampooing hair with conditioner still in the hair (so i'll slightly rinse some of the conditioner out but I will shampoo it out instead of rinse it out)
Condition again, Rinse, and add a pea sized amount to my whole head. (If I am DCing I skip this step and just make sure to rinse really well and I don't add extra conditioner in.)
Plop in cotton t-shirt for 5-10 mins
and style with the TW and Eco styler. On my non DC wash I do it in the mornings because I like to diffuse my WNG's this whole process takes about......an hour and a half start to finish?
*For DC:
Same as above only I don't add conditioner after shampooing, I just plop my hair for about 15 minutes.
Adding a little EVOO to my DC and heating in the microwave until I can mix it pretty well. Apply DC in small sections (that I have sectioned off in bantu's in the shower) and put back in bantu knots. I Greenhouse for about 2 hours then I take the plastic cap off and let the DC dry on my hair overnight (with like 3 scarfs and a Hat on my head so my scalp stays warm). In the morning I will rinse really well and my hair is soft and fluffy and curly!!!
I usually will spritz my hair with a water, tea tree oil and avacado oil mix in the mornings to refresh my curls.
It seems like the Taliah Waajid Curly Curl creme and Eco are really helping to maintain moisture and protein in my hair (the burdock in the TW I was worried about). My hair feels super soft and moisturized even after a 3 day WNG. Really the only reason I washed it was because my curls were frizzing out. I have 4 days between now and Wednesday so I am going to see how long my hair will last I may have to adjust what days I wash. Super excited about this. I think I will do a mild protein conditioner next week just to make sure but my hair feels really soft and fluffy without feeling mushy so i think all is going well for my hair.
I think I have finally figured this out! So the hard water is def an issue (more so because it weighs my curls down, I noticed this tonight in the wash, when I washed at my parents house my hair did not 'hang' as much as it did tonight...some parts sections of hair were scraping my shoulderss (AHHHHH YAY) tonight but they didnt do that last week and I know I dint suddenly get 1/2 an inch of hair in like...5 days). It makes my hair a bit more frizzy and it shrinks my curls about 1/4 the size that they were in soft water.
Ultimately, now that I know it doesnt bother me too much. I love my hair regardless BUT I might look into getting a chelating shampoo and doing that every 2 months just to get deposits out my hair.
The good good good news is I think I finally got my regimen down (hopefully this wont change over the summer).
So I am:
Washing about twice a week, once without DC once with DC (wed & sat/sun).
Detangling and pre-pooing with conditioner.
Shampooing hair with conditioner still in the hair (so i'll slightly rinse some of the conditioner out but I will shampoo it out instead of rinse it out)
Condition again, Rinse, and add a pea sized amount to my whole head. (If I am DCing I skip this step and just make sure to rinse really well and I don't add extra conditioner in.)
Plop in cotton t-shirt for 5-10 mins
and style with the TW and Eco styler. On my non DC wash I do it in the mornings because I like to diffuse my WNG's this whole process takes about......an hour and a half start to finish?
*For DC:
Same as above only I don't add conditioner after shampooing, I just plop my hair for about 15 minutes.
Adding a little EVOO to my DC and heating in the microwave until I can mix it pretty well. Apply DC in small sections (that I have sectioned off in bantu's in the shower) and put back in bantu knots. I Greenhouse for about 2 hours then I take the plastic cap off and let the DC dry on my hair overnight (with like 3 scarfs and a Hat on my head so my scalp stays warm). In the morning I will rinse really well and my hair is soft and fluffy and curly!!!
I usually will spritz my hair with a water, tea tree oil and avacado oil mix in the mornings to refresh my curls.
It seems like the Taliah Waajid Curly Curl creme and Eco are really helping to maintain moisture and protein in my hair (the burdock in the TW I was worried about). My hair feels super soft and moisturized even after a 3 day WNG. Really the only reason I washed it was because my curls were frizzing out. I have 4 days between now and Wednesday so I am going to see how long my hair will last I may have to adjust what days I wash. Super excited about this. I think I will do a mild protein conditioner next week just to make sure but my hair feels really soft and fluffy without feeling mushy so i think all is going well for my hair.
jennwantslonghurr
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I still remember the first time I used a chelating shampoo I picked up from sallys. After I rinsed it out I had to turn around and make sure my hair didn't fall out lol. My hair felt so much lighter almost weightless. It was one of my ah ha moments.
I'm happy to hear that your wash day went well. We all know how frustrating it can be at times.
jennwantslonghurr
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Ok no more co washing my scalp isn't having it. So I prepooed, after using my cleansing balm I treated my scalp with antidandruff conditioner, deep conditioned with heat and rinsed with warm water. I am trying to stay away from direct heat so ive been trying to air dry without setting because I don't want to put "virtually" any tension on my ends... yea.
My point of this post is I used some the tips from the low porosity boards and specifically divachyk
I gently squeezed some water out and used my oil mix and continued to squeeze the excess water out my hair. THEN 'tshirt dried' before adding any li or oil/butter. This is the best air dry session I ever had. Repeat: ever had! Yes I will be sticking to this method.
I started banding but my hair underneath was taking so long to dry and I didn't want to sleep with wet hair last night so I opened my hair. It's puffy and thick but smooth no frizz I'm happy and I think my son's father was a little too happy.
My hair is still very moisturized and I can't wait to start using some new leave ins, moisturizers and butters that's been mentioned which may be better suited for my hair type.
Thank you!
My point of this post is I used some the tips from the low porosity boards and specifically divachyk
I gently squeezed some water out and used my oil mix and continued to squeeze the excess water out my hair. THEN 'tshirt dried' before adding any li or oil/butter. This is the best air dry session I ever had. Repeat: ever had! Yes I will be sticking to this method. I started banding but my hair underneath was taking so long to dry and I didn't want to sleep with wet hair last night so I opened my hair. It's puffy and thick but smooth no frizz I'm happy and I think my son's father was a little too happy.
My hair is still very moisturized and I can't wait to start using some new leave ins, moisturizers and butters that's been mentioned which may be better suited for my hair type.
Thank you!
Jace032000
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I'm LOVIN' this thread!!!! I just did the porosity test today and…I'm a low porosity head too.
jennwantslonghurr
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Hey guys, I sampled purabody murumuru moisture milk and Annabelle's prefect blends hair creams that I requested to leave out the silk amino acids.
I tried the pb mmm on a section of dry hair last night and my hair felt kinda dry
Note: I didnt wait to wash my hair. This morning I tried again this time I used a warm water spray bottle first on half my head. It feels so nice and I want to say silky. Sweet smell of vanilla. My air dyed hair has lots of body/movement. *happy face*
I also tried apb hair cream on dry hair. It is thick which I prefer in a cream and I noticed a moisture boost right away. Good if I want to tuck my hair away since it left my hair kind of stiff. No ill effect for me. I tried it this morning on dampish hair and I'm not feeling it as much.
I'll most likely order the regular size of pbmmm. Maybe sample the butter. Apb is ok and I'll continue to use the sample to see how it holds up.
I tried the pb mmm on a section of dry hair last night and my hair felt kinda dry
Note: I didnt wait to wash my hair. This morning I tried again this time I used a warm water spray bottle first on half my head. It feels so nice and I want to say silky. Sweet smell of vanilla. My air dyed hair has lots of body/movement. *happy face*I also tried apb hair cream on dry hair. It is thick which I prefer in a cream and I noticed a moisture boost right away. Good if I want to tuck my hair away since it left my hair kind of stiff. No ill effect for me. I tried it this morning on dampish hair and I'm not feeling it as much.
I'll most likely order the regular size of pbmmm. Maybe sample the butter. Apb is ok and I'll continue to use the sample to see how it holds up.
ErrickaNicholle
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Hi ladies, long time lurker here. Just wanted to say I love this forum and all the tips and tricks all throughout it.
faithVA..Hey Sis! I use shampoo. Just a little. I am currently using SM moisture retention in another dispenser bottle with about 1 oz of shampoo and 7 oz of water and then I shake it up. I used this with a sample of jojoba hemp from ssi yesterday. I then used eden body works cleansing conditioner and then DC with the edenbodyworks monoi product. My hair came out clean and soft but it does not have that magical feeling I was expecting from the monoi. I just like the smell. I plan to get a small bottle of monoi de Tahiti to get it out of my system. I used some acv after the t shirt dry. then MD argan oil then some hh teatime and some cloud to seal. I braided it(cornrow) in three sections applied a cap and went to bed. It feels good the day after!
alanaturelle
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I alternate with co wash but I dilute it with water when I have to use it. I've incorporated that in my new regimen this year. So far, my hair loves it. I've also given up on combs and just finger detangle.
divachyk
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jennwantslonghurr, I use PB MM each wash day and love it. I don't, however, use it throughout the week as a moisturizer.
jennwantslonghurr
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alanaturelle what conditioner are you diluting?
faithVA are you rinsing only? If so can you explain your follow up steps?
I would love to reduce my shampoo usage. I tried rinsing, cowashing, and condonitoning my ends only. I'm always left with sticky/coated or dry feeling hair... Help! Hahaha.
Btw my hair hates aloe vera and seriously... I need to know if I can get away with rinsing. If anyone can help me that would be awesome. Tia.
faithVA are you rinsing only? If so can you explain your follow up steps?
I would love to reduce my shampoo usage. I tried rinsing, cowashing, and condonitoning my ends only. I'm always left with sticky/coated or dry feeling hair... Help! Hahaha.
Btw my hair hates aloe vera and seriously... I need to know if I can get away with rinsing. If anyone can help me that would be awesome. Tia.
jennwantslonghurr
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faithVA
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[USER=381825 said:
I'm trying a new line, so I am using an ACV rinse 1x a month. The other weeks I am cleansing with a tea blend. And if I cleanse mid week I am either doing a water rinse or a tea cleanse, depending on what I have put on my hair that week.
The product lines comes with the ACV clarifier, a honey balm (conditioner/leave-in), oil free balm (tea rinse) and a shine balm. All the products are either tea based or oil based with no creams.
So I cleanse with the tea, apply the honey balm conditioner. If I am doing a rollerset I use the oil free balm and that's it. If I am twisting I apply a little hazelnut oil and whatever styler I am using.
I am still getting used to cleansing with tea. One thing I notice is that I associate clean with oil free, but for my hair oil free means damaging. I can't describe the feeling but I am starting to be able to detect the difference.
I am still experimenting, so I'm nowhere near an expert. I'm still in the first month of trying this out.
alanaturelle
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Oh no, sorry for the misunderstanding. I don't dilute the conditioner but the shampoo. I use 50/50 ratio water/shampoo.
Saludable84
Better Late Than Ugly
I actually use a 33/66 shampoo/water ratio and it definitely works. Dries out the hair less and still gets the job done very well.
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jennwantslonghurr
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Thanks girl for responding!
I think you may have hit the nail on the head. I prefer the feeling of cleanliness for my hair which is most likely the cause of my frequent trimming. My hair does not do the obvious split instead it thins or hardens/dry out beyond repair. Perhaps I should should push through the intial icky feeling and see how my hair holds up after a few tries without flip flopping my method.
When you rinse with water, you still follow up with the honey balm as leave in?
After water rinsing, do you deep condition with heat/steam while using the honey balm? Does the honey not harden on your hair... maybe just with relaxed hair. Yes faith I got all the questions lol.
I think after I rinse my problems arise with my leave in/moisture application. After I rinse the conditioner when cowashing my hair is already feeling yuck.
My thoughts out loud: honey must balance the tea properly(?), so interesting taking notes. My hair freaks out when using tea. Perhaps not balancing as well as I thought.
faithVA
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[USER=381825 said:
I certainly don't mind questions. Trust me I have had so many over the years.
Because I'm no longer using a lot of product my hair doesn't feel icky. If you have seen any of my old threads you might remember my hair doesn't like oils, butters, honey, etc. etc. etc. And my hair stays dry, dry, dry. It's a long history.
I cut out the shampoo, did one acv rinse, switched to tea and my hair is fine with oils, butters and honey
I did the first week but I haven't since then. My hair feels better each time I do it so I haven't felt the need. After a water rinse, I either spritz it with the oil free balm or I put on a little hazelnut oil.
I don't do anything after the midweek rinses. Just spritz with tea and baggy for 15 minutes and then apply a little hazelnut oil.
Surprisingly the honey does not harden my hair or make it sticky. The 1st time I used it I was not convinced but I followed directions. I used a quarter size over my entire head. In the past I would use a quarter size on one section. Then I baggied for 20 minutes with no heat. My draw dropped when I took off the baggy. My hair was so soft. It wasn't greasy. It wasn't sticky. And I didn't have to get back in the shower to rinse it out. I think the product must be well formulated.
I haven't added conditioners or leave-ins to the mix yet. I'm not sure that the teas would rinse off the cream base that makes up most of my conditioners and leave-ins. I wanted to give this line a fair chance.
Just in my little use of teas, I know it matters which teas I use. Her tea blends are formulated like her oil blends.
In 3 weeks I have really reduced my products but my results are really good so far.
Before I had
prepoo
shampoo
tea rinse
DC
leave-in,
oil
sealer
and all kinds of stuff to get me through the week which didn't work.
Now I have 3 products most weeks: oil free balm, honey balm and an oil. And I can now do my entire wash day regimen in 30 minutes versus the hours it was taking me before.
I'm still testing it out though. But this is the most promising progress I've had in 5 years.
If Noni was hear I would have to tell her that she was right all those years ago when she said I didn't need all that crap
alanaturelle
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I don't know why I never thought about diluting shampoo, especially on a low porosity hair, lol. I went with the 50/50 ratio because I only use shampoo every other week and use it as a mild clarifying.
divachyk
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divachyk
Thank you.Yes!I have been using pb mm... switched out qb aohc and my hair is much happier. I have noticed that if I try to use it again my hair gets sticky/coated
What are you using for moisture throughout the week?
Eta: don't worry I'm about to be all up in your blog!
jennwantslonghurr, I like: Aubrey Organics White Camellia, AfroVeda Cocoa Latte and Bee Mine Luscious. Bee Mine contains hydrolyzed wheat protein which tends to have a strengthening effect. However, using Bee Mine doesn't seem to be an issue.
faithVA, yes / no. Bee Mine Botanical is gentle enough where diluting is not required. Love this shampoo! I do, however, dilute some clarifiers. It just depends on how strong they are and what effect the cleanser has on my hair. I try them straight first before determining if diluting is required.
Saludable84
Better Late Than Ugly
I started doing it just to get it through my hair because regular strength is hard to work though. Now, it's just automatic. I get the 50/50 you do and it makes since you wash less frequently than me. I didn't get diluting either, but now, I highly recommend it for those who do wash.
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uofmpanther
4ab, lopo, fine, low-med density
Not right now. I'm still on my no buy and I have no shampoo in my stash, so I've been using my cowashes. My hair feels the same because I avoided harsh shampoos and my cowashes all have cleansing agents (I checked and posted about it on my blog).
I don't think I have any buildup, but I'll probably do an ACV rinse this week to be sure.
hnntrr
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Going to whole foods today to get some hair stuff. Going to start making my own conditioners and what not...its so expensive to purchase shampoo and conditioner all the time...
I keep hearing AVJ works well, I have olive oil and I might try the banana again (last time I tried it on relaxed hair it worked well). I think I might stick with a store bought shampoo just because it works really well on my hair but as far as DC/Conditioners I will start making my own. Hopefully this venture will turn out to be less expensive than I am currently paying for products.
I keep hearing AVJ works well, I have olive oil and I might try the banana again (last time I tried it on relaxed hair it worked well). I think I might stick with a store bought shampoo just because it works really well on my hair but as far as DC/Conditioners I will start making my own. Hopefully this venture will turn out to be less expensive than I am currently paying for products.
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