LADY WITH BEAUTIFUL BLACK HAIR - Apology

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That's a very good idea, Iris. It's part of the reason I've not yet posted my pics...
 
Thanks for your post Beverly. This is why I take no photos at all. If those photos end up on a very undesirable site or in the wrong hands, who has the time to go through a lawsuit? Because the perpetrators argument will be as you said, "If you don't want to risk it at all, you should not put it on the web - that is the only way to prevent that from happening." I know for me, I can do alot of things with my money, than pad the pocket of some lawyer! Also, as I've already told you, you have a beautiful head of hair /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Amethyst
 
Amethyst i can understand like Jade the reasons why you don't publicy post your picture on the net, and I totally respect that.

How (if at all) is an individual protected, if they submit their photos to individuals via e-mail and are selective in that way who they show them too, but then that person posts them on a message board or something?
 
Hey ladies,

I think that if anyone would like to post their pics, they might consider doing only back shots. There are many here, including myself, that do not post pictures with a view of our faces for the reasons you mentioned.

This is an option that I think many who would like to post their pictures can consider. Your identity is not revealed that way, and you can still show your head of beautiful hair.

I do hope that many of you who have not posted pictures will consider this as a viable option. /images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
That's a very good question LondonDiva /images/graemlins/smile.gif I know just recently Caramela sent me a pick of her hennalucent pictures via email. I did not or would not feel comfortable uploading her photo anywhere including this forum /images/graemlins/nono.gif She sent it to me because I told her some people wanted to see a pic of someone that has used hennalucent. I remembered her flexirods pic she uploaded at the old forum. Caramela made such a beautiful example of what hennalucent can do for the hair /images/graemlins/smile.gif btw, her hair was relaxed when she used it. So being very kind she sent me the photo. But I preferred for her to upload it even though I had her consent. I'm very sensitive to matters such as this. I guess to answer your question I would tell the person the pics are only for the intended party to see. And I would do like Asha did, copyright my photos /images/graemlins/smile.gif This way, if I have to bring a lawsuit against anyone, and do end up in court, I'm covered to the max, leaving no loopholes /images/graemlins/smile.gif

hth,
Amethyst
 
(((Laela)))

Yes she did handle it properly.

It got out of control when people who thought the honesty was rude, which it was'nt and wasnt intended to be, if fact I used the Ms. Jenkins thing to add humor. Like I told Tracy people that are mean spirit can also READ things the wrong way as well.

If you think something is rude, call that person aside, via PM and discuss it, don't act all out in the thread.

But yes, it's over...

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Amethyst

Is it the same picture that she has on the Feature of the Month (August) or is it a different picture? Maybe you can ask her if she was using hennalucent in the picture for Feature of the Month that way people could see her picture.
 
Hi diviine /images/graemlins/wave.gif

I was referring to the pic she had posted on the old board. She had used flexirod rollers to get those pretty spiral curls /images/graemlins/smile.gif She had also used hennalucent in those pics. They gave those spirals a very nice shine. I will PM her and ask could she upload her hennalucent photo /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Hi diviine /images/graemlins/wave.gif

I was referring to the pic she had posted on the old board. She had used flexirod rollers to get those pretty spiral curls /images/graemlins/smile.gif She had also used hennalucent in those pics. They gave those spirals a very nice shine. I will PM her and ask could she upload her hennalucent photo

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It's already on the forum. It's posted in the feature of the month archive.
 
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Thanks LondonDiva. And in all fairness I've learned a valuable lesson too. ValleyGirl had mentioned that it would be a good idea to ask the person before linking any photos. That's an excellent idea. I will make sure I do that the next time around /images/graemlins/smile.gif Though my motives and intentions weren't bad in posting her information, I was wrong, plain and simple. At the time CurlyCrly made her comment about Shelly's account, all I could think of was that I'm not trying to harm Shelly in anyway. I got offended at CurlyCrly. Her comments I felt at the time made it seem as if I was trying to hurt Shelly or something. I just wanted to help those who were having problems linking to her photos. And again, since that info was made public, I initially didn't see any harm. Like I said, ShellyLove has been extremely gracious in her response to this situation, BUT everyone is not SherryLove. In hindsight, this whole thing could have been ONE BIG MESS With a whole lot of /images/graemlins/arguing.gif going on. Not only with an individual peeved at me, but also with the individual and website owner mad at Beverly /images/graemlins/whyme.gif I don't even want to think about the repercussions with that! Pebbles mentioned finding out about website policies, which is an excellent idea /images/graemlins/smile.gif It would be wonderful to think everyone would have responded the way Sherry did but that isn't reality. Like I said in my previous post, we live and learn. I have already extended my apologies where warranted but this post is for every member at this forum to see. This way we can all benefit from the mistakes and corrections made by others.

Sincerely Submitted,
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Amethyst,

I'm just now seeing this post. I'm sorry that you were offended by my comments. That was not my intention. Although nobody agreed with me, except perhaps ValleyGirl, I was just thinking along the lines that it's one thing for the individual to post their personal information and quite another for someone else to do it without their knowledge. That's all I meant when I made those comments.
 
CurlyCrly don't even worry about it. I have nothing but love for you girl. Thanks for taking the time to explain yourself. I really appreciate that /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Amethyst
 
You all are the most gracious ladies. As a new member here, I must tell you how impressed I am that you have such a sincere spirit of peace and graciousness. It's so refreshing.

This is the only board that I've been on for a long time where this type of deliberate effort to maintain order, peace, and camraderie exists.

I state again for the record ... I LOVE THIS BOARD!
 
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You all are the most gracious ladies. As a new member here, I must tell you how impressed I am that you have such a sincere spirit of peace and graciousness. It's so refreshing.

This is the only board that I've been on for a long time where this type of deliberate effort to maintain order, peace, and camraderie exists.

I state again for the record ... I LOVE THIS BOARD!

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Hey Justice4alw /images/graemlins/wave.gif

Thanks for the compliment. And I mean what I said, I have nothing but love for everyone here /images/graemlins/smile.gif I wasn't on the forum for awhile, but when I returned, the way many of them reached out to me was so uplifting /images/graemlins/smile.gif Just to share how special these ladies are, Allandra had started a thread 'I see Amethyst on the visible members line' Well, her welcome alone made me feel on top of this world /images/graemlins/grin.gif I can't even put into words what I felt that day receiving all those posts! Here's the link:

http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=Women&amp;Number=34201&amp;Forum=CatSearch-2&amp;Words=I%20see%20amethyst&amp;Match=Entire%20Phrase&amp;Searchpage=0&amp;Limit=25&amp;Old=allposts&amp;Main=31260&amp;Search=true#Post34201

I've been on other forums as well, but this is MY HOME HANDS DOWN! The vibe here is incredible. We do disagree from time to time and this is the biggest commotion that has gone on here in a looooog time, but we all come back together eventually. That's what family is about. I'm a Christian and I pray for everyone here because I sense the uniqueness of this place /images/graemlins/rosebud.gif
So I'm happy that you're happy to be apart of what many of us call "HOME". btw, you are a wonderful addition to this forum. That creativity! Oh my goodness girllllllllllll!!! I said it once and will say it again, I love the way you developed your site. Who knows, maybe you can even submit your story as a feature to one of the hair magazines. They are always looking for fresh talent and you certainly have got the goods /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Amethyst
 
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You all are the most gracious ladies. As a new member here, I must tell you how impressed I am that you have such a sincere spirit of peace and graciousness. It's so refreshing.

This is the only board that I've been on for a long time where this type of deliberate effort to maintain order, peace, and camraderie exists.

I state again for the record ... I LOVE THIS BOARD!


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I second that Justice4alw! /images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
I've been reading this thread with interest to see how the conversation would progress, and what people's thoughts were on this subject.

I've vacillated back and forth between posting my responses to the obvious references to me and my handling of the situation, apologizing (still hadn't quite come up with a believable apology tho - couldn't think of a thing I'd done wrong, in fact) and leaving well enough alone by saying nothing at all. As I continued to read, however, I noticed that despite all of the appeals and references to "moving on", no one had quite managed that yet. The fact that there are still posts on this thread almost 2 days later, reveals quite clearly to me that there's a lot of double talk going on here. That fact being clear to me, I'm not going to waste much more time reading or thinking about this situation or this board.

Everyone can talk AROUND the facts if they like - but the truth of the matter as I can see it is this - WHAT LAELA AND MINDYMOUSE POSTED SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SAID UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES - PARTICULARLY IN THIS CONTEXT. IT WAS MEAN, IT WAS RUDE, AND THE VERY SUGGESTION THAT THERE WAS ANY OTHER POSSIBLE MEANING, MOTIVATION OR INTENT BEHIND THE POSTS IN QUESTION IS LAUGHABLE.

So, let's get down to brass tacks. Am I quoting anyone here. Nope don't have the time or the inclination - but we all speak English and I should HOPE have the ability to draw inferences. Just in case I'm wrong about that, I will happily state the obvious.

Both posters said they did not think this woman's hair was real. They were saying that this woman was lying. They were saying that she was posting pictures on hair boards passing off a weave, or a wig (isn't THAT part almost a direct quote??? /images/graemlins/shocked.gif) for real hair attempting to dupe us all into admiring her. That she was cheating. No? I'm the only one that thinks this is what these statements mean - huh? Or are we saying here, that we should turn away from the OBVIOUS, ignore everything we KNOW about the import of the words used by both Mindymouse and Laela and COMPLETELY separate words in the English language from the most basic ways in which they are most commonly understood????

Because if so, then that would explain to me why anyone here is even remotely entertaining the possiblility that the comments made were actually meant to be harmless, simply the expression of an opinion, and really weren't meaning anything negative at all....

It was all just a little food for thought at LHCF. Just something for us to ponder along our hair journey. This was all just benign observation. Another little piece of positivity.

It's really TRACY who was rude. /images/graemlins/confused.gif TRACY wigged out on those nice girls and now their feelings are hurt. /images/graemlins/shocked.gif TRACY didn't have to say what she said the way she said it. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

Because I wasn't RESPONDING to something that was said. I set it off. With MY rudeness and disregard for people's feelings.

Right?

Please.

So - for the record Mindymouse - my "heart" is right as rain, Mamita. The posters here clearly already forgot that for the most part - I'm nicer than nice. Must have been all that humor you add to the board that you PMed me about. But I don't like your style. Period. So I said so. Just like you said that you didn't think Mizdivine's hair was real. And I said it in the manner that I FELT LIKE. Just like you did. And as I said, I chose the manner I did because you chose the manner you did. So I figured if nothing else - it would be a language you understood.

Laela - the fact alone that you posted YOUR response after Mizdivine had already begun posting makes your "apologies" and manufactured friendliness after-the-fact all the more insincere to me. Yes - I can see I'm alone in that assessment. And that's alright with me.

The lack of sincerity and the rampant word mincing going on here is pretty plastic.

I defended this woman because she was being personally attacked and I didn't like it. We've never done that here, and I didn't want to see this site descend into the depths of pettiness and cattiness that I've seen at other sites. I liked it here BECAUSE there was none of that. My goal was to KEEP it that way.

But since no one "meant any harm", and I'm clearly a NUT JOB I'll say no more...


"Peace" ya'll.
 
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The posters here clearly already forgot that for the most part - I'm nicer than nice.

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I was just about to log off when I decided to check this site one more time. Noone forgot that you are nice. Listen chica, I realize you wanted to say your piece publicly, because obviously, the swing of this thread really bothered you.You had every right to /images/graemlins/smile.gif Hey I'm right with you regarding the timing of those comments. I actually went back and checked the time logged on each post to make sure what I was saying was correct. Now that you've said what you said, anymore comments please ignore. I'm a woman not a child and as you've said have no more time to entertain this nonsense anymore. I'm tired, real tired of it. I never said you were rude, etc. I stated that I was a bit irked over how the entire thing played out. I gave a stern rebuke in my own thread regarding those comments. I've said what I've said in that thread and that's the end of it :end: If there should have been anyone arguing I feel it should have been me and Sherry However, we are two mature adults and as such, dealt with this situation with alot of class I must say /images/graemlins/smile.gif Like I said, she's a mature woman and is paying no mind to any negativity directed her way. As a matter of fact, she went on about her business and left everyone else arguing over her arrival /images/graemlins/laugh.gif As a matter of fact I will PM Pebbles and tell her to lock this thread too, because I am very tired of the whole matter. I mean lock it down. I feel the posts to come will only aggravate the situation. And if anyone else starts another thread trying to carry on the discussion from this post or any other post pertaining to this situation, I will ask Beverly or Pebbles to delete it also. I mean what I'm saying. Everyone else said what they felt necessary, you said what you felt was necessary and this should be it. I have nothing but love for you muneca /images/graemlins/grin.gif I sense by the tone of your thread, you are very irritated and hurt at the same time. Again, I understand and you've made yourself perfectly clear /images/graemlins/smile.gif.

Buenas Noches Amigas and I love everyone of you /images/graemlins/Rose.gif/images/graemlins/Rose.gif/images/graemlins/Rose.gif,
Amethyst
 
I didn't get to post a response to the negative comments in the last thread. I think Adrienne said it best. How can we doubt a woman's hair and yet come to this site with the full intent of attaining the health and/or length in which MizDivine has attained.

And I don't think that Tracy was rude. I think you kept it real, girl. And in fact, you are correct that the issue itself isn't over. I received a PM from someone (who will remain nameless) that argued that MizDivine's hair still looks fake to them and that her ends don't look real (like mine in my pictures). I checked MizDivine's picture again and I must whole-heartedly disagree. Her hair not only looks healthy, but I can't see any weave looking that real. Also, it's hard to compare hair because textures, thickness, porosity etc. all differ.

I probably should not have posted that as it might have been told to me in confidentiality, but I don't think that the comment was fair.


I don't think anyone should come to this site if they aren't serious about hair health/care. And especially if they are going to attack someone else's hair. It defeats the purpose of joining a wonderful community such as this one.

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And I don't think that Tracy was rude. I think you kept it real, girl. And in fact, you are correct that the issue itself isn't over. I received a PM from someone (who will remain nameless) that argued that MizDivine's hair still looks fake to them and that her ends don't look real (like mine in my pictures).

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Unbelievable CarmenRose just totally unbelievable /images/graemlins/nono.gif
This is exactly why I'm having Beverly or Pebbles close shop on this thread /images/graemlins/smile.gif I want the focus to get back to the business of learning, sharing. I have no time to answer anymore posts or PM's about foolishness such as this /images/graemlins/up.gif
 
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And I don't think that Tracy was rude. I think you kept it real, girl. And in fact, you are correct that the issue itself isn't over. I received a PM from someone (who will remain nameless) that argued that MizDivine's hair still looks fake to them and that her ends don't look real (like mine in my pictures).

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Unbelievable CarmenRose just totally unbelievable /images/graemlins/nono.gif
This is exactly why I'm having Beverly or Pebbles close shop on this thread /images/graemlins/smile.gif I want the focus to get back to the business of learning, sharing. I have no time to answer anymore posts or PM's about foolishness such as this /images/graemlins/up.gif

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No offense, but your comments started this, so you can deal with other people's responses. But, all the same, I do too hope that we all can learn from this so that this never happens again.
 
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No offense, but your comments started this, so you can deal with other people's responses. But, all the same, I do too hope that we all can learn from this so that this never happens again.

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The argument started long before I made any posts on this thread. Like I said, I said what I was going to with no retractions and that's all to it /images/graemlins/wink.gif As for you, darling all I will say is peace, God Bless you, and I have nothing but love for you too.

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This thread started on an apology, and I'm going to end it on an apology as well.

It is understood that some members were offended by certain comments made. I am asking everyone to please forgive anything they found offensive, and forgive what was said. Let's focus on the new member that all of this controversy is about. I don't think that this will help her to feel comfortable if all of this continues.

I sometimes skim through posts without actually taking the time to read them carefully. Is it not possible that in the midst of all the posting on Friday, they were not aware that the person in question had joined our forum? It's possible...If a person says something to offend others, and takes the time to apologize for it, I think that those of us who can, should accept the olive branch being offered to us. Please, let's end this for the sake of all parties involved.

I think we've said all there is to say. For those who did not get to add their 2 cents, I am truly sorry. I will subsequently lock all threads pertaining to this matter in an effort to move forward from this most unfortunate incident. I respectfully request that no more threads be started to continue this conversation. It's over, and in the interest of peace, it's time for us to move on.

To Tracy: You are one of the most beloved members of this forum and nothing will change that! Believe it, because YOU DID hear that from me! /images/graemlins/wink.gif Please don't allow this to trouble you any further.

For those who may be unhappy about my decision to lock these threads, I apologize in advance; but it's time for us to move on.
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