It's Not About the 'Chicken' ... It's the Heart of God for the Family

[divya]

MrsHaseeb

Neither do I. That's why I support the freedom of choice, as the Bible gives every man or woman. It tells us to "choose who we will serve," not to choose for other people.

Allowing them the freedom to choose God or not is not supporting them but simply recognizing the choices that God affords them. There is no need for a ban. Sometimes it seems as though Christians don't really believe that God is taking note and will reward us according to our works in the end. It is not our job to force them to accept our religious beliefs via the law and such actions are unbiblical. As long as they are not infringing on our freedom to preach and teach the Word in our homes and places of worship, we ought to leave them to their choices. Note the only time Jesus physically stopped individuals from their wrongdoing was in the temple.

Our responsibilty is to walk right and set an example for those walking contrary to the Word. God will do what He says He will do.

Galatians 6:7Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man sows, that shall he also reap.

Revelation 22:10-12
10*And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.

11*He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

12*And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

 

[Belle Du Jour]

Belle Du Jour..... Blessings are upon you and your heart is filled with love which is stronger the the vocals of your gay friend, who will one day yield to your loving prayers and surrender to the love of God and be set free from homosexuality....

Thank you for sharing this with us as we will pray for your friend, in Jesus' Name... He shall be delivered and never to return again to a life so full of sin.

I pray for him too. I believe he considers himself Christian as well. He talks of marriage and I wonder what will happen to our friendship if he ever invites me to some kind of union ceremony because I won't be able to go.

 

[Belle Du Jour]

I don't support anything God's Word is against. Any "Christian" who does needs to check their walk. This is not about tolerance. We have to tolerate gays but we certainly don't have to support what they are doing.

I agree--love and tolerance are so important but I feel these days, you would be lynched if you say you are for traditional marriage I can't tell you how shocking it is to see even Christian friends supporting this gay marriage issue. I think those of us who don't are just silent because we don't want the backlash. erplexed

 

[divya]

I agree--love and tolerance are so important but I feel these days, you would be lynched if you say you are for traditional marriage I can't tell you how shocking it is to see even Christian friends supporting this gay marriage issue. I think those of us who don't are just silent because we don't want the backlash. erplexed

Not supporting a ban on gay marriage does not mean that you support gay marriage. The same goes for issues like abortion. I will tell anyone that gay marriage is wrong and that even if married by the state, such persons are not truly married. But I will not support a ban on the freedom of choice because that is God-given. Do people believe that changing the definition of marriage by the state changes God's definition?

 

[Belle Du Jour]

Not supporting a ban on gay marriage does not mean that you support gay marriage. The same goes for issues like abortion. I will tell anyone that gay marriage is wrong and that even if married by the state, such persons are not truly married. But I will not support a ban on the freedom of choice because that is God-given. Do people believe that changing the definition of marriage by the state changes God's definition?

No it doesn't change God's definition but it makes it "okay." I think saying something is legal is tantamount to saying it is normal and okay which I don't believe it is. (However, I see where you are coming from that this as a freedom of choice issue.)

That being said, I am pessimistic about the issue and think that one day, it will be legal in this country.

 

[divya]

No it doesn't change God's definition but it makes it "okay." I think saying something is legal is tantamount to saying it is normal and okay which I don't believe it is. (However, I see where you are coming from that this as a freedom of choice issue.)

That being said, I am pessimistic about the issue and think that one day, it will be legal in this country.

Gotcha and there's where I disagree. Recognizing their right to choose is not making it OK. The Bible has not changed, and therefore it will never be OK. It likely will be legal, just like abortion. However, I am not bothered. God still sits high on His throne and His words stand firm. In the end, this will only serve as more evidence that God is just. These people will have publicly made their choice against the Word of God for all the world to see. Therefore, in the end, there will be no excuse.

 

[LucieLoo12]

So our ONE Chik Fil A was sooooooooooooooooooooooooo packed yesturday. People really came out and supported! :trampolin

 

[nathansgirl1908]

I definitely went and it was packed.

I love the lemonade and now I get it mixed with sprite sometimes when I go.

I am thankful for Dan Cathy's willingness to be honest and not back down. A Chick Fil A CEO had a heart attack and died last week and several people on my facebook page said it was because God doesn't like ugly and the company was wrong to say that about marriage. I wholeheartedly disagree with that. He died because it was his time to go, no more and no less.

I also heard, as Nice and Wavy stated, that same-sex couples were planning a "Kiss-in" on Friday. It will be interesting to see how that plays out. I think it's pretty ridiculous.

 

[divya]

I definitely went and it was packed.

I love the lemonade and now I get it mixed with sprite sometimes when I go.

I am thankful for Dan Cathy's willingness to be honest and not back down. A Chick Fil A CEO had a heart attack and died last week and several people on my facebook page said it was because God doesn't like ugly and the company was wrong to say that about marriage. I wholeheartedly disagree with that. He died because it was his time to go, no more and no less.

I also heard, as Nice and Wavy stated, that same-sex couples were planning a "Kiss-in" on Friday. It will be interesting to see how that plays out. I think it's pretty ridiculous.

That is ridiculous. I agree with the man's stance on marriage, but only take issue with company giving to organizations that endeavor to restrict freedom of choice on the matter. He has every right to express his beliefs and the comment about the CEO uncalled for and unsensitive. As for the kiss-in, they need to stop. It is one thing to want your freedom. It's another thing to try to force your lifestyle on others.

 

[Shimmie]

I definitely went and it was packed.

I love the lemonade and now I get it mixed with sprite sometimes when I go.

I am thankful for Dan Cathy's willingness to be honest and not back down. A Chick Fil A CEO had a heart attack and died last week and several people on my facebook page said it was because God doesn't like ugly and the company was wrong to say that about marriage. I wholeheartedly disagree with that. He died because it was his time to go, no more and no less.

I also heard, as Nice and Wavy stated, that same-sex couples were planning a "Kiss-in" on Friday. It will be interesting to see how that plays out. I think it's pretty ridiculous.

Hi Little Sister... I'm glad you able to attend and to enjoy your lemonade and sprite combo...

I have to post a picture of how I drink my lemonade from Chick fil a... It's totally UE.

 

[Country gal]

Hi Pretty Country gal

I'm glad you enjoyed your Chick Fil A....

I've noticed that the crowds are very peaceful and are there to enjoy the food, the wonderful service and their family and friends who are with them.

You're absolutely right, he should not have to back down.

Hey, Shimmie. I see you are still spreading postitivity. I am Team Chick-fil-a. It's nice to see a business owner with some morals.

 

[Galadriel]

@MrsHaseeb

Neither do I. That's why I support the freedom of choice, as the Bible gives every man or woman. It tells us to "choose who we will serve," not to choose for other people.

Allowing them the freedom to choose God or not is not supporting them but simply recognizing the choices that God affords them. There is no need for a ban. Sometimes it seems as though Christians don't really believe that God is taking not and will reward us according to our works in the end. It is not our job to force them to accept our religious beliefs via the law and such actions are unbiblical. As long as they are not infringing on our freedom to preach and teach the Word in our homes and places of worship, we ought to leave them to their choices. Note the only time Jesus physically stopped individuals from their wrongdoing was in the temple.

Our responsibilty is to walk right and set an example for those walking contrary to the Word. God will do what He says He will do.

Galatians 6:7Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man sows, that shall he also reap.

Revelation 22:10-12
10*And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.

11*He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

12*And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

I understand what you're saying from a certain perspective. Some people will choose immorality and evil, and if that's the path they want to go down, then no one can stop them (even God does not violate our free will).

However I think there's a difference between personal free will (I choose to and/or act on adultery, or stealing, or rejecting God, etc.) and redefining/deconstructing an entire institution.

Marriage defines a particular relationship between a man and woman; it is an institution which pre-dates the State, is acknowledged by civil society and adhered to as a sacrament in religion. I can't re-define marriage any more than I can re-define my relationship with my children (Mother) and start calling myself their father.

Also, as the CFA controversy has shown us, it is more about them forcing their political agenda and beliefs on *us* (although they rant that it's the other way around). No one batted an eyelash when Jeff Bezos (CEO of Amazon) gave $2.5mil to pro-gay marriage causes, but let Cathy or someone like him do the same thing for traditional marriage and all of a sudden it's hatred, oppression, and intruding on people's rights?

 

[Shimmie]

That is ridiculous. I agree with the man's stance on marriage, but only take issue with company giving to organizations that endeavor to restrict freedom of choice on the matter. He has every right to express his beliefs and the comment about the CEO uncalled for and unsensitive. As for the kiss-in, they need to stop. It is one thing to want your freedom. It's another thing to try to force your lifestyle on others.

So much more money is being given to the gay rights movement. A movement which is so clear and so evident to silence Christians from speaking out about the sin and the dangers of homosexuality.

The gay agenda is the culprit who are the ones who are spewing out the hatred and the biotry and it's targeted solely against any and everyone who disagrees with their foolishness and sin. gays are the ones hating and it's enormous and out of control.

And if you notice, these are organizations which do not carry family values. Especially those in Hollywood who support homosexuality HUGE...

And if we look at the whole picture, it's 'our' rights as Christians which are under attack, not theirs. Dan Cathy and his one corporation who supports marriage seminars is not hatred towards gays who have no right to marriage nor the benefits of it in the first place. The only rights they are truly after is to rule. The true spirit behind this is satanic as satan is out to steal, kill and to destroy the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Look all around and see how the gays have 'changed' the word of God to validate their sin. This fight for equality is a smoke screen; for once they have their goal, it puts them in control. It's already happening in other countries who have allowed homosexuality to rule. It will never be about being equal rights.

Look at these corporations whom 'we' as Christians are supporting by the trillions everyday, for we use these services. We are funding them with our resources and folks want to ban Dan Cathy?

Holy Cow! (pun intended )

Microsoft
Google
General Mills (wheaties and cheerios)
Oreo Cookies
Target
Home Depot
JC Penny
Macy's
Old Navy (clothing)
Hollywood...

And do we talk about the 'Judas's in the Churches' who have back peddled and given into this maddness.

Another Holy Cow ...

And folks are screaming to the hills because of ONE man who refused to bow.

Lemme tell folks something.

The book of Daniel speaks of ONE man 'Daniel' who refused to worship the kings idols, he was thrown into a pit of lions and they touched him not.


The three Hebrew men who refused to bow to King Nebakanezzar (sp?) and his idols, and were thrown into the firey furnace and the Fourth Man came in to protect them.

They didn't bow and they didn't burn.

We don't have to bow when we know the God whom we serve is on our side. We don't have to bow to the foolishness of this world's sins.

gay marriage is not only sin but a direct attack and an afront to the love of God and His order. This cry for equality is a lie straight from hell. See the spirit behind it; for it is SO evident by the actions of the gays and their supporters to the words of ONE man who chooses to stand by God and not by satanic rules and deceptions.

Equality ? Equal Rights?

What about others who deserve the same rights? Singles, widows, those without family members who wish to designate as their beneficiaries.

The definition of marriage does not have to be redefined for gays to visit their loved ones in the hospital or to make their 'arrangements' or to take care of their financial affairs. Their full of hoooey with that unreasoning.

What can 't legislation simply rule that gays can appoint another gay person as their medical representative which is legal and binding (it's called a 'Medical Directive') anyone can legally have this assigned to anyone of their choosing and without being challenged.

No matter what the gay agenda tries to drum up to validate redefining marriage, it will never be valid. They are still NOT male and female being united as one. Their relationships are not the same and therefore do not merit nor can be deemed valid as the same as that of a man and woman.

There's no getting around this. None. None None

And their behaviour is proving themselves 'against' themselves more and more. Folks are going to stop supporting their foolishness. This is a bandwagon going no where for it has no wheels. It's stuck in the mud and it's sinking deeper into ground the more they protest and weigh it down.

There is no such thing as making gay marriage equal with that of pure marriage, for as it is stated...

'Whom God hath joined together, let no man put assunder'...

God is not joining gays together in matrimony. It is therefore non valid forever.

 

[Shimmie]

I understand what you're saying from a certain perspective. Some people will choose immorality and evil, and if that's the path they want to go down, then no one can stop them (even God does not violate our free will).

However I think there's a difference between personal free will (I choose to and/or act on adultery, or stealing, or rejecting God, etc.) and redefining/deconstructing an entire institution.

Marriage defines a particular relationship between a man and woman; it is an institution which pre-dates the State, is acknowledged by civil society and adhered to as a sacrament in religion. I can't re-define marriage any more than I can re-define my relationship with my children (Mother) and start calling myself their father.

Also, as the CFA controversy has shown us, it is more about them forcing their political agenda and beliefs on *us* (although they rant that it's the other way around). No one batted an eyelash when Jeff Bezos (CEO of Amazon) gave $2.5mil to pro-gay marriage causes, but let Cathy or someone like him do the same thing for traditional marriage and all of a sudden it's hatred, oppression, and intruding on people's rights?

Galadriel ...

Awesome truth Gala... thank you for sharing. I love your statement that no one batted an eyelash when Jeff Bezo (Amazon) gave $2.5 million to progay causes...

I mean, gay folks are having a cow over Dan Cathy and won't admit their hate groups being supported by the multi millions....

What is wrong with those folks? They're calling out their own sin and can't see it for the hatred and bigotry of their own hearts.

 

[Shimmie]

That is ridiculous. I agree with the man's stance on marriage, but only take issue with company giving to organizations that endeavor to restrict freedom of choice on the matter. He has every right to express his beliefs and the comment about the CEO uncalled for and unsensitive. As for the kiss-in, they need to stop. It is one thing to want your freedom. It's another thing to try to force your lifestyle on others.

But angel, he's just one man compared to the thousands of corporations giving and supporting the gay movement. Why is he the bad guy here?

I'm just trying to understand your point of view, that's all. No contention with it. Not at all.

You're still precious and always will be.

I just don't understand the hits on Dan Cathy when compared to his support for protecting pure marriage, the gays are being financed big time against Christians and our views.

 

[Galadriel]

Shimmie I think you pointed out two important things:

1) make no mistake this is part of a larger struggle against Satan, and not speaking up or resisting comes back to bite us and it spiritually harms people (which is never good). Their intention is not to just coincide with a diametrically opposed ideology in this society--light and darkness cannot abide with each other-- so which one will prevail? They're introducing some of these things into our children's curriculum in public schools, attempting to codify any public expression of belief in traditional marriage as "hate speech" and I wouldn't be surprised if ultimately it's categorized under "hate crime."

2) The cry for "equality, equal rights," etc. is a smokescreen and tool used to obtain the political, ideological, and social outcomes they desire. Marriage is not a right, and cannot be redefined; the notion of a "gay marriage" is an oxymoron and in religious terms sacrilegious.

 

[Shimmie]

Shimmie I think you pointed out two important things:

1) make no mistake this is part of a larger struggle against Satan, and not speaking up or resisting comes back to bite us and it spiritually harms people (which is never good). Their intention is not to just coincide with a diametrically opposed ideology in this society--light and darkness cannot abide with each other-- so which one will prevail? They're introducing some of these things into our children's curriculum in public schools, attempting to codify any public expression of belief in traditional marriage as "hate speech" and I wouldn't be surprised if ultimately it's categorized under "hate crime."

2) The cry for "equality, equal rights," etc. is a smokescreen and tool used to obtain the political, ideological, and social outcomes they desire. Marriage is not a right, and cannot be redefined; the notion of a "gay marriage" is an oxymoron and in religious terms sacrilegious.

Praise God... Praise God for the Truth.


Hey Gala... I have to share this. I hope it makes you smile.

It's time for me to go to bed...

As serious as this issue is, God still wants to impart His joy within our hearts and keep 'me' grounded.


I you, precious sister. I love your wisdom and your love for God.

 

[aribell]

That is ridiculous. I agree with the man's stance on marriage, but only take issue with company giving to organizations that endeavor to restrict freedom of choice on the matter.

While the Lord certainly gives us the freedom to choose to act against His word, He never grants us freedom from it. Ultimately, the only choice we receive from the Lord is the choice to either live or die...which goes right to His original caution to Adam and Eve in the garden. As you said, His word has not changed, and from it we know that governmental authorities have God-given authority to institute laws according to what is right and what is wrong. While the government cannot root out every sin, it does have an obligation before God to not endorse what is against Him. Legal marriage, in the U.S., is an endorsement/sanction because of the variety of benefits that come with it, which have been given because of society's recognition of the value of men and women joining together and raising a family.

Restriction of choice would be the government actively going after anyone in a homosexual relationship to punish them and keep them apart. Declining to confer benefits/general recognition to certain unions is very much the prerogative of the government. And if there is disagreement, people are able to voice their opinion and attempt to sway others and their leaders. This is what Chick-Fil-A, along with many others on all sides of the issue are doing with their corporate profits.

 

[Belle Du Jour]

1) make no mistake [B]this is part of a larger struggle against Satan[/B], and not speaking up or resisting comes back to bite us and it spiritually harms people (which is never good). Their intention is not to just coincide with a diametrically opposed ideology in this society--light and darkness cannot abide with each other-- so which one will prevail? They're introducing some of these things into our children's curriculum in public schools, attempting to codify any public expression of belief in traditional marriage as "hate speech" and I wouldn't be surprised if ultimately it's categorized under "hate crime."
[/QUOTE]

I think a lot of Christians are totally missing that. We are in spiritual warfare. This is not a game.

With the way schools are going down (and the rising costs of Catholic and private schools) homeschooling is looking more and more like a viable option. :ohwell:

 

[divya]

I understand what you're saying from a certain perspective. Some people will choose immorality and evil, and if that's the path they want to go down, then no one can stop them (even God does not violate our free will).

However I think there's a difference between personal free will (I choose to and/or act on adultery, or stealing, or rejecting God, etc.) and redefining/deconstructing an entire institution.

Marriage defines a particular relationship between a man and woman; it is an institution which pre-dates the State, is acknowledged by civil society and adhered to as a sacrament in religion. I can't re-define marriage any more than I can re-define my relationship with my children (Mother) and start calling myself their father.

Also, as the CFA controversy has shown us, it is more about them forcing their political agenda and beliefs on *us* (although they rant that it's the other way around). No one batted an eyelash when Jeff Bezos (CEO of Amazon) gave $2.5mil to pro-gay marriage causes, but let Cathy or someone like him do the same thing for traditional marriage and all of a sudden it's hatred, oppression, and intruding on people's rights?

That's just it. No one can redefine/deconstruct what God set into place. As Christians, we know the Word of God stands no matter the actions of the state. That is why the Bible give this instruction:

Mark 12:17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.

The truth is that civil society already has a different definition for marriage that excludes God. The usual definition of marriage is that there are 3 parties to a marriage: man, woman and the state. At one point in American society, marriage was not under the control of the state. It was a private matter as it should have been. However, people - largely professed Christians - allowed the state to get into the business of marriage. It began to redefine the institution from that point on. Now people are upset because the state is doing what it has done for so long - define and redefine marriage. It should have never been involved in the first place. As far as I am concerned, if people so want incentives from the state for their union, then everyone should have civil unions. Marriage should be left a private matter.

The truth is that no one preventing us the right to marry in the presence of our God. Therefore, we have no right to prevent others from having a "civil marriage." They cannot marry in our churches unless we allow it. They are not defining what we state from the pulpits. If such efforts become formidable, then we have every right to fight them.

I don't care who gives money to the gay marriage cause because the state does not define my beliefs on marriage. Such actions on the parts of others does not prompt me to give money towards curbing the freedoms of others when mine are not being curbed. They are not forcing their beliefs on me. They simply want the same rights from the state. I may not like what is happening, but there is no reason to attempt to curb their freedom of choice. Two wrongs do not make a right.

 

[divya]

So much more money is being given to the gay rights movement. A movement which is so clear and so evident to silence Christians from speaking out about the sin and the dangers of homosexuality.

The gay agenda is the culprit who are the ones who are spewing out the hatred and the biotry and it's targeted solely against any and everyone who disagrees with their foolishness and sin. gays are the ones hating and it's enormous and out of control.

And if you notice, these are organizations which do not carry family values. Especially those in Hollywood who support homosexuality HUGE...

And if we look at the whole picture, it's 'our' rights as Christians which are under attack, not theirs. Dan Cathy and his one corporation who supports marriage seminars is not hatred towards gays who have no right to marriage nor the benefits of it in the first place. The only rights they are truly after is to rule. The true spirit behind this is satanic as satan is out to steal, kill and to destroy the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Look all around and see how the gays have 'changed' the word of God to validate their sin. This fight for equality is a smoke screen; for once they have their goal, it puts them in control. It's already happening in other countries who have allowed homosexuality to rule. It will never be about being equal rights.

Look at these corporations whom 'we' as Christians are supporting by the trillions everyday, for we use these services. We are funding them with our resources and folks want to ban Dan Cathy?

Holy Cow! (pun intended )

Microsoft
Google
General Mills (wheaties and cheerios)
Oreo Cookies
Target
Home Depot
JC Penny
Macy's
Old Navy (clothing)
Hollywood...

And do we talk about the 'Judas's in the Churches' who have back peddled and given into this maddness.

Another Holy Cow ...

And folks are screaming to the hills because of ONE man who refused to bow.

Lemme tell folks something.

The book of Daniel speaks of ONE man 'Daniel' who refused to worship the kings idols, he was thrown into a pit of lions and they touched him not.


The three Hebrew men who refused to bow to King Nebakanezzar (sp?) and his idols, and were thrown into the firey furnace and the Fourth Man came in to protect them.

They didn't bow and they didn't burn.

We don't have to bow when we know the God whom we serve is on our side. We don't have to bow to the foolishness of this world's sins.

gay marriage is not only sin but a direct attack and an afront to the love of God and His order. This cry for equality is a lie straight from hell. See the spirit behind it; for it is SO evident by the actions of the gays and their supporters to the words of ONE man who chooses to stand by God and not by satanic rules and deceptions.

Equality ? Equal Rights?

What about others who deserve the same rights? Singles, widows, those without family members who wish to designate as their beneficiaries.

The definition of marriage does not have to be redefined for gays to visit their loved ones in the hospital or to make their 'arrangements' or to take care of their financial affairs. Their full of hoooey with that unreasoning.

What can 't legislation simply rule that gays can appoint another gay person as their medical representative which is legal and binding (it's called a 'Medical Directive') anyone can legally have this assigned to anyone of their choosing and without being challenged.

No matter what the gay agenda tries to drum up to validate redefining marriage, it will never be valid. They are still NOT male and female being united as one. Their relationships are not the same and therefore do not merit nor can be deemed valid as the same as that of a man and woman.

There's no getting around this. None. None None

And their behaviour is proving themselves 'against' themselves more and more. Folks are going to stop supporting their foolishness. This is a bandwagon going no where for it has no wheels. It's stuck in the mud and it's sinking deeper into ground the more they protest and weigh it down.

There is no such thing as making gay marriage equal with that of pure marriage, for as it is stated...

'Whom God hath joined together, let no man put assunder'...

God is not joining gays together in matrimony. It is therefore non valid forever.

That's the point. Their marriage is non-valid regardless of whether the state recognizes the union because God's Word is final on the matter.

Thus, we can and should be clear about our stance on gay marriage, but we have no right to curb their freedom of choice. Every person must choose God or man. They are making their choice. They can spew all of the hatred that they want because it changes absolutely nothing.

It does not surprise me that many corporations are against true marriage. This is expected because the day of the Lord is hastening. We know that Satan is behind it all. However, the Bible still does not condone Christians using the state to force our religious beliefs on others. It makes clear to keep state and church matters separate. If there is any fight going on right now, it should be to take marriage out of government altogether and give civil unions to couples with the same incentives to all.

Lastly, there is a HUGE difference between the stories of Daniel and the Hebrew boys and the case at hand. In those cases, the rights of Daniel and the Hebrew boys were being infringed upon by the state. They could not practice their beliefs as they saw fit. In this case, NO ONE is infringing upon our rights to marry in the eyes of God, according to the dictates of our faith. We have no right to use the state to force our beliefs on others.

It's a difficult thing to watch what is happening to society, but our focus should be on living in accordance to God's Word so that our light will shine. That is far more powerful than trying to use the State to force others to conform to Christianity. But the question is, do we believe that our light can be that powerful?

 

[divya]

But angel, he's just one man compared to the thousands of corporations giving and supporting the gay movement. Why is he the bad guy here?

I'm just trying to understand your point of view, that's all. No contention with it. Not at all.

You're still precious and always will be.

I just don't understand the hits on Dan Cathy when compared to his support for protecting pure marriage, the gays are being financed big time against Christians and our views.

Let the corporations give all that they please. My Father in heaven owns the entire universe and His Word is the end all, be all.

Dan Cathy has every right to believe marriage (as we know that there is only one type), and I am glad that he made that clear. Where I disagree with him is with his support for organizations that are pushing to curb the freedom of choice of others based on their religion via the state.

 

[Shimmie]

Let the corporations give all that they please. My Father in heaven owns the entire universe and His Word is the end all, be all.

Dan Cathy has every right to believe marriage (as we know that there is only one type), and I am glad that he made that clear. Where I disagree with him is with his support for organizations that are pushing to curb the freedom of choice of others based on their religion via the state.

Sweetie, something is mixed up here.

Okay... why is Dan Cathy wrong to contribute to causes who support Biblical marriage and the other corporations are 'right' to contribute to the gay causes which are curbing 'our' freedom of choice to honour God and His Word.

This is no secret, this is all you hear from the gay supporters and the gay agenda... they are out to silence the Church, yet the Church is 'wrong' and is being accused of curbing the gay's freedom (which is non valid).

This concept is a sell out and it's also suggesting that one is fearful or lazy to fight and stand for the Church's freedom. Just let it all happen and when Christians are no longer able to worship and express their love for God, these same people who 'protected' the non valid rights of the gay movement...cry because they can no longer exercise their rights to be.



No one is curbing gay rights, for they have NO rights being curbed. They have not been deprived of anything except being able to force their lifestyle upon others without a fight.

Rights... ??? Rights to receive the same benefits of heterosexual Marriages... this is not their right. It's pure deception for anyone who thinks that it is.

Outside of Marriage, I want to know exactly what rights they are being deprived of? The answer is NONE.

It is a Blatant Lie that Dan Cathy is supporting hate groups against gays. Blatant!

He is supporting the traditional family structure which includes a Father (Male), a Mother (Female) Married and raising their children as God has instructed us to. Period.

This is not a hate group against gays. However, folks are flaming this to validate their hatred and cause, meaning the hatred is coming from the gay side, not Dan Cathy and those who support Biblical standards.

Folks need to get this straight.

 

[Dee_33]

Just wondering if you all have any gay friends or family members? I have 2 gay co-workers that I'm friends with, and I have coworkers who refuse to be friends with them because they're gay. I think God wants us to love everyone so I try to. I like chick-fil-a and still plan to eat there. I wouldn't tell someone that their lifestyle is wrong because I feel it's not for me to decide. Just my .02

 

[Shimmie]

Just wondering if you all have any gay friends or family members? I have 2 gay co-workers that I'm friends with, and I have coworkers who refuse to be friends with them because they're gay. I think God wants us to love everyone so I try to. I like chick-fil-a and still plan to eat there. I wouldn't tell someone that their lifestyle is wrong because I feel it's not for me to decide. Just my .02

Question: Is it thought that the Christians who disagree with homosexuality are those who do not have family members or friends who are gay? Or that these same Christians mistreat gays, be their family members or not?

Of course, many Christians know other gay people, as family members, friends, co-workers, Church members and any other aspect of life.

And to put it out there, these same Christians LOVE those who are gay. They do not disrespect them, torment them, cast them out, nor do they humilitate them in front of others or in private. They embrace them as anyone else.

Just because one objects to a lifestyle (which is dangerous to the person who lives it), does not mean that they hate or mistreat the person. If nothing more, they treat gays with even more love and care as they see the consequences of the gay lifestyle is the risk of losing their souls.

I have gay family members and friends and they all know that I love them. I do not exclude them from my life as if they are outcasts. They live in my heart and there is nothing that I would do to deliberately hurt them as I would not hurt anyone else.

Disagreeing with legalizing gay marriage is not to hurt gays. This issue is about a lot more than gay marriage. It is an agenda headed by a group that is out to conform society to a lifestyle that is not of God and is killing the future generations with it's consequences.

This is not about taking away someone's rights, it's about the others taking away the rights of those who honour God and choose to live by God's standards. Period.

Gays have already changed the Bible (God's Word) to validate their lifestyle. They have eliminated and excused all scripture which clearly states that homosexuality is not only sin but an abomination. An abomination means destruction and disaster...the impending of God's judgement upon those who rebel.

People cannot be weak or soft hearted in this matter. It's not a game or a weakening to the manipullations of a group of people whose only focus is to subdue society to their lifestyle, and banning any oppostion from stopping them.

Beware: Don't trust the rattlesnake...

http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showpost.php?p=14970823&postcount=1

Said the 'Snake'.... "You knew what I was when you picked me up"...

 

[Nice & Wavy]

Gays are asking for something (marriage) that they will not be able to handle.

Marriage is a COVENANT given by the God of the Bible, not just some arrangement to get benefits and not only because of love. There is a serious responsibility that comes with a marriage. Where there is a covenant, there is an anointing which only a man and woman can handle because God is in the midst of it (marriage). A man and a woman understand the marriage covenant because it was only meant for them. God does not have a double mind...He's not going to say one thing and do something else. Being under the influence of the demonic oppression of homosexuality, is not living according to the Will of God and is certainly not from God. People can fool themselves all day and night with this, but its not going to change God's mind nor His Word.

I think they are asking for something that they are going to find out in the end was something they didn't signed up for.

Do not be deceived. God shall not be mocked, for whatever a man sows, he shall reap. Galatians 6:7

Remember this:
But certain also of the strolling Jews, exorcists, took upon them to name over them that had the evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, I adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth. And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, a chief priest, who did this.

And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are you? And the man, in whom was the evil spirit, leaped on them and subdued all of them and overpowered them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded. Acts 19: 13-16 NASB

They took it upon themselves to try to call out the evil spirits without the power to do so. They got wounded by those same evil spirits. This is serious stuff here and if people don't repent, the same thing will happen to them in their lives. The devil is not their friend..he may make them think that it's all good, but he will bite them in the butt in the end...that's how he rolls.

 

[Shimmie]

Gays are asking for something (marriage) that they will not be able to handle.

Marriage is a COVENANT given by the God of the Bible, not just some arrangement to get benefits and not only because of love. There is a serious responsibility that comes with a marriage. Where there is a covenant, there is an anointing which only a man and woman can handle because God is in the midst of it (marriage). A man and a woman understand the marriage covenant because it was only meant for them. God does not have a double mind...He's not going to say one thing and do something else. Being under the influence of the demonic oppression of homosexuality, is not living according to the Will of God and is certainly not from God. People can fool themselves all day and night with this, but its not going to change God's mind nor His Word.

I think they are asking for something that they are going to find out in the end was something they didn't signed up for.

Do not be deceived. God shall not be mocked, for whatever a man sows, he shall reap. Galatians 6:7

Remember this:
But certain also of the strolling Jews, exorcists, took upon them to name over them that had the evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, I adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth. And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, a chief priest, who did this.

And the evil spirit answered and said,

Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are you?

And the man, in whom was the evil spirit, leaped on them and subdued all of them and overpowered them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded. Acts 19: 13-16 NASB

They took it upon themselves to try to call out the evil spirits without the power to do so. They got wounded by those same evil spirits. This is serious stuff here and if people don't repent, the same thing will happen to them in their lives. The devil is not their friend..he may make them think that it's all good, but he will bite them in the butt in the end...that's how he rolls.

Oh my goodness.... Those words "Jesus I know.... but who are you? "

Oh my goodness... This is how pure marriage responds to gay marriage...

Jesus, I know......but who are you?

gay marriage has no recognition

 

[Nice & Wavy]

Oh my goodness.... Those words "Jesus I know.... but who are you? "

Oh my goodness... This is how pure marriage responds to gay marriage...

Jesus, I know......but who are you?

gay marriage has no recognition

Amen, sis....amen.

ETA: God will not be mocked...He don't play that Truth is not trendy!!!

The apostle Paul said this to Timothy in 2 Timothy 3:1 - 9 (NLT)
"You should know this, Timothy, that in the last days there will be very difficult times. For people will love only themselves and their money. They will be boastful and proud, scoffing at God, disobedient to their parents, and ungrateful. They will consider nothing sacred. They will be unloving and unforgiving; they will slander others and have no self-control. They will be cruel and hate what is good. They will betray their friends, be reckless, be puffed up with pride, and love pleasure rather than God. They will act religious, but they will reject the power that could make them godly. Stay away from people like that! They are the kind who work their way into people's homes and win the confidence of vulnerable women who are burdened with the guilt of sin and controlled by various desires. (Such women are forever following new teachings, but they are never able to understand the truth.)

These teachers oppose the truth just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses. They have depraved minds and a counterfeit faith. But they won't get away with this for long. Someday everyone will recognize what fools they are, just as with Jannes and Jambres."

And in2 Timothy 4:3-5
"For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear. They will reject the truth and chase after myths."

 

[Shimmie]

Amen, sis....amen.

ETA: God will not be mocked...He don't play that Truth is not trendy!!!

The apostle Paul said this to Timothy in 2 Timothy 3:1 - 9 (NLT)
"You should know this, Timothy, that in the last days there will be very difficult times. For people will love only themselves and their money. They will be boastful and proud, scoffing at God, disobedient to their parents, and ungrateful. They will consider nothing sacred. They will be unloving and unforgiving; they will slander others and have no self-control. They will be cruel and hate what is good. They will betray their friends, be reckless, be puffed up with pride, and love pleasure rather than God. They will act religious, but they will reject the power that could make them godly. Stay away from people like that! They are the kind who work their way into people's homes and win the confidence of vulnerable women who are burdened with the guilt of sin and controlled by various desires. (Such women are forever following new teachings, but they are never able to understand the truth.)

These teachers oppose the truth just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses. They have depraved minds and a counterfeit faith. But they won't get away with this for long. Someday everyone will recognize what fools they are, just as with Jannes and Jambres."

And in2 Timothy 4:3-5
"For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear. They will reject the truth and chase after myths."

And what they are doing is attacking those who stand for the Truth, calling them haters, bigots and whatever else.

However.. look what these people are doing to those who call them haters and bigots. They are lovingly feeding their enemies, those who curse them and persecute them. Forgoing the profits of the day and caring for those who came against them.

The media didn't focus on this... I wonder why?

From the Washington Times...

Let’s examine this. Did Chick-fil-A refuse to hire homosexuals? Do they refuse to serve homosexuals? What “basic human rights” are they denying fellow humans by simply having a philosophical opinion about what marriage is and ought to be?

Chick-fil-A, those evil bigots, responded by bringing free water to the protesters. Now that is class, loving those who curse you.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...der-of-freedo/

Late Friday after, a number of gay-activists gathered in front of as many as 1,600 Chik-fil-A store locations and shared a kiss to celebrate "Same-Sex Kiss Day," to directly counter comments made by the fast food chain's CEO who said in an earlier interview that he only supported "the biblical definition of the family unit," according to the New York Times.


At many of the locations, protestors were given a free treat. In a Wichita, Kansas locations activists were all given chicken sandwiches, in a Georgia location they were given lemonade.

Read more at http://www.lawyerherald.com/articles...wt2yqXkS3f2.99


Chickfila... Class Act When they could have called the police instead.

 

[Nice & Wavy]

And what they are doing is attacking those who stand for the Truth, calling them haters, bigots and whatever else.

However.. look what these people are doing to those who call them haters and bigots. They are lovingly feeding their enemies, those who curse them and persecute them. Forgoing the profits of the day and caring for those who came against them.

The media didn't focus on this... I wonder why?

From the Washington Times...

Let’s examine this. Did Chick-fil-A refuse to hire homosexuals? Do they refuse to serve homosexuals? What “basic human rights” are they denying fellow humans by simply having a philosophical opinion about what marriage is and ought to be?

Chick-fil-A, those evil bigots, responded by bringing free water to the protesters. Now that is class, loving those who curse you.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...der-of-freedo/

Late Friday after, a number of gay-activists gathered in front of as many as 1,600 Chik-fil-A store locations and shared a kiss to celebrate "Same-Sex Kiss Day," to directly counter comments made by the fast food chain's CEO who said in an earlier interview that he only supported "the biblical definition of the family unit," according to the New York Times.


At many of the locations, protestors were given a free treat. In a Wichita, Kansas locations activists were all given chicken sandwiches, in a Georgia location they were given lemonade.

Read more at http://www.lawyerherald.com/articles...wt2yqXkS3f2.99


Chickfila... Class Act When they could have called the police instead.

Yes, I saw this in the other thread they are asking to get closed