I Keep Hearing Believers Talk About Soulmates

this is a subject worth studying and discussing....

I do beleive in soul ties even though the bible does not specifically mention 'tie' but 'knit'...now visualize a sock, hat or a scarf that were knitted...yep, that is deep the only way to undo that 'knit' is to cut it...

Because of David's and Johnathan's close relationship their souls for knitted together...

So it IS possible to be soul knitted or tied (if you want to use that word) to your spouse.

Remember Shechem and Dinah...Shechems advances were unwanted by Dinah however, after he raped/consummated his soul 'cleaved' to her ...

Genesis 34:2-3, "And when Shechem the son of Hamor the Hivite, prince of the country, saw her, he took her, and lay with her, and defiled her. And his soul cleaved unto Dinah the daughter of Jacob, and he loved the damsel, and spoke kindly unto the damsel."
 
Health&hair28 said:
:yep: Shimmie and Alicialynn86

Think about it. The scripture in Genesis 2 on a man leaving and cleaving to his wife and becoming one. God hates divorce...why?... because the two becoming one is like welding them together. Marriage is to weld, and or glue two together to make ONE. The enemy fights against marriage because marriage is godly.

The marriage overrides every relationship in a person's life except the relationship with God.

We as mothers are the ones that seem to have a hard time with the leaving and cleaving of our children. I was reading on the marriage and it was stated that "the marriage does not mean you forget your family but that a change in priorities has taken place." "A NEW FAMILY has been established." :yep: I love this!!
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@ the bolded... :amen:

I mean think about it. Growing up, the family was always 'One'. The mother, the father, the children. My aunts and uncles were never seen outside of one another. They were always one.

I was born in Harlem New York, my mom lived with my dad's parents, I spent my summers, weekends and holidays with my grandparents in New York and I never saw them as a separate being, they were always 'One'.

That's the family unit and unit means 'One'.

Everything in your post makes sense. Total sense, because that's what it is, 'Sense'. :lol: Sense that was made by God.
 
Shimmie

I agree!

I went through sexual abuse as a child (not to bring the thread down but to bring out a point) It cause alot of sexual emotions and things to arise at a very young age.

I always remembered feeling like if I wasnt sexually engage with someone I was empty or lonely.I felt incomplete.Thats why I was always in a relationship.I automatically thought intimacy was sex, but now i know that sex is a form of intimacy.

Aot of times, i wouldnt even have sexual intercourse to "feel good", the feeling wasnt something I was seeking for all time, but it was more of wanting to feel connected to someone or appreciated or even valued.

When I got saved, God had to heal my mind and heart. Your body only does what your heart and mind tells it to do..

So yes Shimmie! I agree with sex is far more beyond our physical being, its internal!
 
Iwanthealthyhair67 said:
this is a subject worth studying and discussing....

I do beleive in soul ties even though the bible does not specifically mention 'tie' but 'knit'...now visualize a sock, hat or a scarf that were knitted...yep, that is deep the only way to undo that 'knit' is to cut it...

Because of David's and Johnathan's close relationship their souls for knitted together...

So it IS possible to be soul knitted or tied (if you want to use that word) to your spouse.

Remember Shechem and Dinah...Shechems advances were unwanted by Dinah however, after he raped/consummated his soul 'cleaved' to her ...

Genesis 34:2-3, "And when Shechem the son of Hamor the Hivite, prince of the country, saw her, he took her, and lay with her, and defiled her. And his soul cleaved unto Dinah the daughter of Jacob, and he loved the damsel, and spoke kindly unto the damsel."
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:yep: :yep: :yep:

See, the devil KNOWS this. satan is fully aware of the 'ties' / the control that sex has upon a person's soulish realm.

Where does desire come from? The soul and the flesh. The soul is the control center for the thoughts which are seeds, which when watered bear fruit. If one is 'taught' to think something, he becomes what he thinks. (ie, as a man thinketh, so is he).

When satan has 'sexually abused' someone, the thoughts connected to that abuse create a concept in that person's mind of their image of who they are made to think of who they are. Young boys who have been raped, are then 'made' to think that they are designed for homosexual activity. Women who are raped, know that they have been violated and they are deceived into thinking that they are not worthy of living or having better in life.

I know I'm taking this in a whole 180 degree direction, yet it ties into the discussion of the soulish realm and it's connection / ties with human hearts/lives.

It only gets deeper.... It's just that sex, when it occurs outside of God's intent, causes a whole mess of disorder in people's lives. And it's all over a five minute activity. .. :look:
 
Thats why its sooo important for Mothers to teach their daughters about the emotional side of sex...My mom scared the death out of me when it came to pregnancy and STD's:look: but she never explained the emotional side and spiritual side of it. I am not blaming her at all because honestly I dont think she was taught either...
 
Ladies this discussion is soo good...

Shimmie, the molestation and rape of young boys is to wreck their souls. It is used to pervert their inner being. This is why we must continue to pray and cover children. A little boy will grow up and wonder "why did that happen to me?" or "Maybe that is who I am." :sad:


Also, this discussion on marriage, sex, soul ties is awesome. I think this lesson is soo important. This stuff should be taught in premarital classes, bible studies, etc. People need to know the importance of the convenant they are about to enter. :yep:
 
ITA..if you will note that Shechem lost his life when Dinah's brothers found out and killed him and everyone else. This means death and destruction (i.e. diseases, heartache, etc) lies at the door of unions not ordained by God (aka marriage)....Marriage includes mind, body, spirit and is a direct reflection of God's relationship/covenant with Man. Which is why the devil tries so hard to destroy marriages.


Iwanthealthyhair67 said:
this is a subject worth studying and discussing....

I do beleive in soul ties even though the bible does not specifically mention 'tie' but 'knit'...now visualize a sock, hat or a scarf that were knitted...yep, that is deep the only way to undo that 'knit' is to cut it...

Because of David's and Johnathan's close relationship their souls for knitted together...

So it IS possible to be soul knitted or tied (if you want to use that word) to your spouse.

Remember Shechem and Dinah...Shechems advances were unwanted by Dinah however, after he raped/consummated his soul 'cleaved' to her ...

Genesis 34:2-3, "And when Shechem the son of Hamor the Hivite, prince of the country, saw her, he took her, and lay with her, and defiled her. And his soul cleaved unto Dinah the daughter of Jacob, and he loved the damsel, and spoke kindly unto the damsel."
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Alicialynn86 said:
Shimmie

I agree!

I went through sexual abuse as a child (not to bring the thread down but to bring out a point) It cause alot of sexual emotions and things to arise at a very young age.

I always remembered feeling like if I wasnt sexually engage with someone I was empty or lonely.I felt incomplete.Thats why I was always in a relationship.I automatically thought intimacy was sex, but now i know that sex is a form of intimacy.

Aot of times, i wouldnt even have sexual intercourse to "feel good", the feeling wasnt something I was seeking for all time, but it was more of wanting to feel connected to someone or appreciated or even valued.

When I got saved, God had to heal my mind and heart. Your body only does what your heart and mind tells it to do..

So yes Shimmie! I agree with sex is far more beyond our physical being, its internal!
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:bighug: I'm so sorry this happened to you.

Thank God for Jesus.

I had a 'perfect' childhood, literally. I was spoiled by my grandparents, given the world by them, introduced to the Arts (music and dance) and the finer things in life. They had the money and lived the culture... it was New York and my dad and his family treated me and my sisters like princesses.

However, I got married to the wrong man. I too was abused mentally, physically and sexually. I 'hid' it from my family for years, until my dad got wind of it and got me out of there. However, I still had a lot of recovery and life's lessons to learn. Long story short... were it not for Jesus.
 
You know marriage has a powerful meaning because as Laela has stated its what God compares our relationship him..In Isaiah he even that He is a husband unto us, and how he is married to the backslider and how we are the bride and He is the bride groom..so all this make sense..!!:yep:
 
Yes all because Of Jesus! I used to be ashamed of it, but Im not anymore. I know all things worked together for my good! It was all for His glory, His praise and the ministry that God has for me. Just a testimony that something that has been broken into pieces can be made whole again without any signs of cracks or damage! :grin: Thats why I love him..

Shimmie said:
:bighug: I'm so sorry this happened to you.

Thank God for Jesus.

I had a 'perfect' childhood, literally. I was spoiled by my grandparents, given the world by them, introduced to the Arts (music and dance) and the finer things in life. They had the money and lived the culture... it was New York and my dad and his family treated me and my sisters like princesses.

However, I got married to the wrong man. I too was abused mentally, physically and sexually. I 'hid' it from my family for years, until my dad got wind of it and got me out of there. However, I still had a lot of recovery and life's lessons to learn. Long story short... were it not for Jesus.
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Health&hair28 said:
Ladies this discussion is soo good...

Shimmie, the molestation and rape of young boys is to wreck their souls. It is used to pervert their inner being. This is why we must continue to pray and cover children. A little boy will grow up and wonder "why did that happen to me?" or "Maybe that is who I am." :sad:


Also, this discussion on marriage, sex, soul ties is awesome. I think this lesson is soo important. This stuff should be taught in premarital classes, bible studies, etc. People need to know the importance of the convenant they are about to enter. :yep:
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Exactly... :yep: Right now, the school systems call themselves 'protecting' children by teaching them that homosexuality is inborn, yet it is not. If nothing more, our Churches have to intervene inside of the Church and politically take a stand to come against the 'combat' of confusion.

God showed me something. Ever since He (God) announced to satan in the 'Garden' that "the seed of the woman shall bruise thy head" (take away his power) Genesis 3; that satan has been out to defile the manhood of men and to destroy them (sift them as wheat).

satan (via Cain) killed Abel first; moving upwards towards Moses, he had all of the 'male' Hebrew babies slaughtered at birth; upwards to when King Herod ordered to have killed all male children two years and under.

I'm sharing the 'condensed version' of my theory... :yep:

It's just that I've been searching/asking God to show me what is behind all of this.

He showed me something else. That there are principality demons that are sitting atop the state capitols including Washington DC, which are the influence behind the gay agenda. It's real. :yep:

Something else: None of us are 'here' at this place (the forum), at this time in our lives, by accident. :nono:
 
I was gonna hold back on this one put I'll put it out there


Okay Shimmie it seems we've been tapping and thinking at the same time...

y'all I got my shield up just in case any stones, rock, darts come my way...

here are my thoughts and I hesitate because they are not biblical; consider this:

I think it goes even farther and deeper than we dare imagine that I've read where people say as far back as they can remember they've had an attraction for the same sex, some earliest memory is 2 and 3 years old ...I think this perverted spirit can attach itself from an early age maybe even the womb ...yes the womb...

So could it be plausible that attachments are not only formed through a rape or molestation it could also be passed down (or transfered) in my lineage or through an opened door.




Shimmie said:
It is deeper... much.

I'm sitting at my desk, tapping my fingernails on the keyboard (not typing, just tapping...pondering whether to type out something that I've been 'studying'/praying' regarding how sex 'ties' do just that, tie a person to whom they've had a sexual encounter with.

Still tapping... (thinking)

Okay, read this and just think about it for a minute.

When a young boy has been sexually molested by a male, what is that makes this child grow up and 'struggle' with his sexuality? Why does he enter into a homosexual relationship when it is obvious that he was never born that way, neither was it ever intended by God's design.

Anal sex is horrendously painful, yet what is drawing this male back to these encounters. Even when they have entered into a relationship with a woman, why is this such a struggle?

Somewhere along the line, something has been attached to their soulish realm that has them in bondage to this lifestyle.

Something has occurred in the spiritual realm to confuse his soul and to have him outside of reality and into where he does not belong.

This is where I'm leaning that when people have sex there is a 'connection' occuring that is deeper than the surface of one's flesh. I also believe that there is a 'transference' of spirits taking place. The spirit of sexual deorientation which has affected the soulish realm of the male who has been violated.

Something is most definitely going on 'beyond the flesh' here when it causes a child to grow up and be utterly drawn into such a torrent of sexual confusion. Something that is most definitely not of God. I've always regarded homosexuality as a 'spirit', because of its 'hold' upon the person being 'controlled' by it.

Hence, the deeper side of sex and its affect upon the human soul.

Tell me what you think?

I also apologize for taking this thread into another direction (somewhat).
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Alicialynn86 said:
Yes all because Of Jesus! I used to be ashamed of it, but Im not anymore. I know all things worked together for my good! It was all for His glory, His praise and the ministry that God has for me. Just a testimony that something that has been broken into pieces can be made whole again without any signs of cracks or damage! :grin: Thats why I love him..
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:amen: and :amen:

That's why we love Him, indeed. :love3: :yep:
 
how did I miss this, you are telling my story ...

Alicialynn86 said:
@Shimmie

I agree!

I went through sexual abuse as a child (not to bring the thread down but to bring out a point) It cause alot of sexual emotions and things to arise at a very young age.

I always remembered feeling like if I wasnt sexually engage with someone I was empty or lonely.I felt incomplete.Thats why I was always in a relationship.I automatically thought intimacy was sex, but now i know that sex is a form of intimacy.

Aot of times, i wouldnt even have sexual intercourse to "feel good", the feeling wasnt something I was seeking for all time, but it was more of wanting to feel connected to someone or appreciated or even valued.

When I got saved, God had to heal my mind and heart. Your body only does what your heart and mind tells it to do..

So yes Shimmie! I agree with sex is far more beyond our physical being, its internal![/QUOTE]
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Iwanthealthyhair67

I agree!! again :look:

Parents open their kids up to all types of things! Televison shows, music, people etc..kids are impressionable...

People wonder why a 6 year old says they are gay..well look at what they watch on TV?!!!! What kind of people are the parents allowing in there homes and what are the kids teaching each other at school..


Iwanthealthyhair67 said:
I was gonna hold back on this one put I'll put it out there


Okay @Shimmie it seems we've been tapping and thinking at the same time...

y'all I got my shield up just in case any stones, rock, darts come my way...

here are my thoughts and I hesitate because they are not biblical; consider this:

I think it goes even farther and deeper than we dare imagine that I've read where people say as far back as they can remember they've had an attraction for the same sex, some earliest memory is 2 and 3 years old ...I think this perverted spirit can attach itself from an early age maybe even the womb ...yes the womb...

So could it be plausible that attachments are not only formed through a rape or molestation it could also be passed down (or transfered) in my lineage or through an opened door.
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Iwanthealthyhair67 said:
I was gonna hold back on this one put I'll put it out there


Okay Shimmie it seems we've been tapping and thinking at the same time...

y'all I got my shield up just in case any stones, rock, darts come my way...

here are my thoughts and I hesitate because they are not biblical; consider this:

I think it goes even farther and deeper than we dare imagine that I've read where people say as far back as they can remember they've had an attraction for the same sex, some earliest memory is 2 and 3 years old ...I think this perverted spirit can attach itself from an early age maybe even the womb ...yes the womb...

So could it be plausible that attachments are not only formed through a rape or molestation it could also be passed down (or transfered) in my lineage or through an opened door.
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YES! It's the 'generational curses'. The sins of the Fathers, passed on throughout the generations. There are certain spirits that dwell in certain 'areas' (per say) ... the principalities, spiritual wickedness in high places ... and they 'visit' family lines of which they are familiar.

Ergo.... "Familiar Spirits"

There's nothing new under the sun. There's always a line to 'trace' the origins' of something. Always a trace.

These are the curses which Jesus broke from off of us upon the cross. The sins of man which He bore upon His own body.

This is why 'we' have to be very careful to whom 'we' call .........

Are you ready?


'Soul Mate'

We have no idea what has been 'attached' to ones soul; no idea of what / if any generational curses are still hovering over them or their family members (in their bloodline). Those spiritual wickedness in high places are hovering over seeking upon whom they may 'afflict'. And yes, even in 'The Womb'.

Some of the generational curses are those where demon spirits (familiar spirits) speak to children. Literally. This is why we have to 'pay attention' when a child speaks of their 'imaginary friend.'

It's those same spirits who 'speak' to a child, whispering to them, 'it's okay to be gay....'


Iwanthealthyhair67 ... :lol: @ stones and tapping... :lol:

I didn't want to start a 'ruckus' either.... :duck:
 
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Alicialynn86 said:
Iwanthealthyhair67

I agree!! again :look:

Parents open their kids up to all types of things! Televison shows, music, people etc..kids are impressionable...

People wonder why a 6 year old says they are gay..well look at what they watch on TV?!!!! What kind of people are the parents allowing in there homes and what are the kids teaching each other at school..
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Shimmie stands up from her desk ... shouting

Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes.... this is it. Yes !!!!!

Nodding my head in agreement... Yes!

Shimmie sits down. Still saying "Yes" !
 
Desire we all have them but they can be perverted and misdirected ...the interview that TP did with Oprah he was molested by the neighbor and he said that his body 'betrayed' him then molested by his friends mom and his body again 'betrayed' him ...his very first experience was polluted ...

Shimmie said:
:yep: :yep: :yep:

See, the devil KNOWS this. satan is fully aware of the 'ties' / the control that sex has upon a person's soulish realm.

Where does desire come from? The soul and the flesh. The soul is the control center for the thoughts which are seeds, which when watered bear fruit. If one is 'taught' to think something, he becomes what he thinks. (ie, as a man thinketh, so is he).

When satan has 'sexually abused' someone, the thoughts connected to that abuse create a concept in that person's mind of their image of who they are made to think of who they are. Young boys who have been raped, are then 'made' to think that they are designed for homosexual activity. Women who are raped, know that they have been violated and they are deceived into thinking that they are not worthy of living or having better in life.

I know I'm taking this in a whole 180 degree direction, yet it ties into the discussion of the soulish realm and it's connection / ties with human hearts/lives.

It only gets deeper.... It's just that sex, when it occurs outside of God's intent, causes a whole mess of disorder in people's lives. And it's all over a five minute activity. .. :look:
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Iwanthealthyhair67 said:
Desire we all have them but they can be perverted and misdirected ...the interview that TP did with Oprah he was molested by the neighbor and he said that his body 'betrayed' him then molested by his friends mom and his body again 'betrayed' him ...his very first experience was polluted ...
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:yep: I remember that, Tyler's interview.

He also grew up with that gay deception and struggle.

It's a spirit, it's a spirit attacking the soulish realm; the area of where one thinks and processes information that has been transferred to them.
 
Iwanthealthyhair67 said:
^^because his natural desire was polluted by the molester
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His natural desires... exactly "Healthy Hair", exactly.

Whenever something goes against the natural order of things, confusion evolves and spirals into 'divers' issues and problems.

God is enlightening us to the answers, the root cause and eventually the total deliverances for those who have been so unjustly affected by this.
 
Marriage is a legal and binding contract it's covenant ...

the process of swearing and making and oat (I 'do' or I 'Will') be a form of soul knit (or tie)

Numbers 30:2 If a man vow a vow unto the LORD, or swear an oath to bind his soul with a bond; he shall not break his word, he shall do according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth.
 
Poohbear I was taught about soul ties in the church.

But after reading this entire thread. My understanding of the term "soul tie" is a little better. It's a loosely used word to describe soul (spirit) transference. Which could be done sexually and other ways.

I don't know about anyone else, but I can always tell when an unmarried couple is having sex. I always sense an unnatural "oneness" about them.

I think it's important we even go a step further and be careful who we allow ourselves to get close to.
 
Health&hair28 said:
Shimmie

:lol::lol: Shimmie we knew who you were talking to. Shimmie you need to get some rest...you're falling asleep, confusing names, standing up at your desk shouting, etc.:drunk: TraciChannel added you to the prayer last night. You had her worried.:lol:
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I sat down at 8:00, trying to hold out until 9:00, it didn't work at all. :thud:

I fell asleep holding the list of prayers, the scriptures from Isaiah, and the access codes for the conference call in numbers. I woke up and saw yours and Traci's text messages. I can't believe that happen. But I went out :sleep: praying for eveyone. :lol:

Somebody should have been a fly on the wall... :lol:
 
MarriageMaterial said:
@Poohbear I was taught about soul ties in the church.

But after reading this entire thread. My understanding of the term "soul tie" is a little better. It's a loosely used word to describe soul (spirit) transference. Which could be done sexually and other ways.

I don't know about anyone else, but I can always tell when an unmarried couple is having sex. I always sense an unnatural "oneness" about them.

I think it's important we even go a step further and be careful who we allow ourselves to get close to.
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:yep::yep: Yep, on the couples and sex thing. Notice that when someone has sex or gets too close it is hard for them to break away from the person. They had tied themselves to that person in some way. Yes we have to be careful.

I remember a friend coming to me telling me that she was into a married man. They had a close friendship and talked on a deep level. She did not care about her own marriage. She was soo into this man. I told her it was wrong. She did not care because she had connected with this man in a way that was not of God.
 
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