shinyblackhair
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I was shocked and saddened to find out the Dr. Charles Stanely is divorced as well (back in 2000). He's one of my favorites. It really depresses me that such a godly man was victim of divorce. No one is immume.
auparavant said:I think that, for us catholics, depending upon the actual pre-marital issues and that all forms of validity are met, a marriage receives the sacramental blessing. The problem is in the individuals who cannot be forced to do what the other partner desires and/or needs. You could absolutely marry the "wrong" person for yourself but have it blessed.
I agree that marriage and family are under attack right now.
But one of the problem that's causing the high divorce rate among christians is people refuse to grow up. Some of us want to stay baby christians forever and refuse to grow up. in other words, we accept God's saving grace and refuse his sanctifying grace.We nitpick and argue with God that we can be/stay saved without being sanctified.
Some christians don't/refuse to see that God is using their spouse for their sanctification. A spouse is like a mirror. In marriage one cannot hide their sins or their shortcomings. If one refuse to change and to become who God wants them to be, they are going to have a hard time having a successful godly marriage.
Thanks was not enough. So much truth.
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I agree. (Not Catholic ). I do believe that you can make a hasty or wrong choice about who to marry but I don't think that's a reason to divorce or that God won't bless you. We all make mistakes some are worse than others. But we can't fix a sin by sinning. The Bible gives specific reasons that that would allow divorce. Heck! It says not to be unevenly yoked with unbelievers but then it goes on to say later that we should stay being married to that unbeliever unless they choose to leave.
But I do agree that marriage is under attack and I do think the attack is 2 prong, it's coming from the enemy but it's also coming from within. We have no staying power, we want easy results and we let the world influence our relationships rather than the word. And everyone especially people in the spotlight have to remember that family is the first ministry. Everything else comes second.
Under fire or are dissolving? They are dissolving for the same reasons that low-profile marriages in the christian community and secular world are failing. I think that people like to use the famous as examples and inspiration but the fact is, they are suffering just like anybody else. People make bad choices, think wrongly/worldly about their spouses, practice the "Greco-Roman-Cupid" ideal of love (Pastor Baucham lol) that is not committal nor transferable to every situation and addition to the family etc.;
and in addition to all the general problems people have across the board, high-profile folks have the added pressure of trying to save face in the public eye. They are busy helping others and probably rarely take time to help themselves.
People can pray for change and protection but their actions must reflect positive change and maintenance of marriage....growth. You can't pray away a bad marriage, you have to act upon it to improve it. Maybe ministers are living a lie.
Many people in the Church become so caught up in 'Church' activities that they fail to know each other in their marriages, which in turn pulls them apart from one another. Many Church members do the same; spend their lives serving the Church and not their husbands or wives...hence the wedges between them develop; they no longer 'know' each other, they're leading separate lives, no longer as 'One'.
I have seen this happen in several marriages ...![]()
Yes, Shimmie...reminds me of that question.."who edits the editor?"..this scenario...who ministers to the ministers. This really goes hand in hand with humility; doesn'ts mean they aren't Christians, as there could simple be an IMBALANCE in their lives and for them to see that. I believe God can fix anything that's broken...