I am convinced Haitian women have a hair secret....
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Yeah it's pretty gross. My mom cleans the oil then she mixes it with aloe I believe. I forget. But she mixes it with something to change the viscosity. The concoction itself is called "mistine".
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My Panamanian mom did the same thing to me as a child. She mixed HBCO with either aloe vera (unfiltered bitter) gel & lemon juice or cooked onions, garlic & honey. She called these disgusting concoctions a “purge" or “washout"
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Holla
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No offense...but my first reaction: This is some BS.
There are people in Africa who were never enslaved. Their lineage goes back for thousands of years (so no termperate climate change). They also didn't maintain elaborate hair styles. Yet, some African women have the same hair challenges as their long lost sistas in the New World.
How would you explain THEIR dilemma when you remove the massa they never had?
DoDo
Big Hair, Don't Care
No offense...but my first reaction: This is some BS.
There are people in Africa who were never enslaved. Their lineage goes back for thousands of years (so no termperate climate change). They also didn't maintain elaborate hair styles. Yet, some African women have the same hair challenges as their long lost sistas in the New World.
How would you explain THEIR dilemma when you remove the massa they never had?
Oh dear, you seem to be under the impression the white man never colonized Africa.
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CodeRed
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Oh dear, you seem to be under the impression the white man never made it to Africa.
Every time I come in this thread something has me rolling
Holla
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DoDo
Big Hair, Don't Care
I am just going to leave this snippet of what colonization may have meant to Africans during the European colonial era. I am sure they didn't have as much time as they may have wanted for hair care among other things let's say.
"King Leopold II of Belgium called his vast private colony the Congo Free State. Effectively this meant those exploiting the area were free of all restraint and answerable only to the Belgian king.[13] The treatment of the Africans under this system was harsh enough to cause the other colonial powers to plead with the Belgian king to exercise some moderating influence. Eventually the Belgian government annexed the territory as a Belgian colony.[14]
Khapoya (pp. 134–143) notes the significant attention colonial powers paid to the economics of colonisation. This included: acquisition of land, often enforced labour, introduction of cash crops, sometimes even to the neglect of food crops, changing inter-African trading patterns of pre-colonial times, introduction of labourers from India, etc. and the continuation of Africa as a source of raw materials for European industry.[15] "
The bold there sounds familiar.
"King Leopold II of Belgium called his vast private colony the Congo Free State. Effectively this meant those exploiting the area were free of all restraint and answerable only to the Belgian king.[13] The treatment of the Africans under this system was harsh enough to cause the other colonial powers to plead with the Belgian king to exercise some moderating influence. Eventually the Belgian government annexed the territory as a Belgian colony.[14]
Khapoya (pp. 134–143) notes the significant attention colonial powers paid to the economics of colonisation. This included: acquisition of land, often enforced labour, introduction of cash crops, sometimes even to the neglect of food crops, changing inter-African trading patterns of pre-colonial times, introduction of labourers from India, etc. and the continuation of Africa as a source of raw materials for European industry.[15] "
The bold there sounds familiar.
bronxsoloist
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Actually quite the opposite.
Colonization is not just physical with chains
It's a mental take over.
That has happened to people every where and for centuries now.
Even as you read my response, you gave me a colonized response.
I OVERstand the brainwashing of my melanated people, so I can understand why you would view my response as "BS".
When you finally do open your eyes, because even against your own wicked odds I believe even you can become deprogrammed, you will look back at these old ways of thinking, and wonder how could you ever whisper one negative word about your own people.
Those who OVERstand, already know, there is no good hair. NO good genes. No easier hair. Eat healthy, be healthy, think healthy, and live a natural life full of love.(WAY easier said than done) I noticed another argument used earlier was that even women in 3rd world countries with poor water etc... can still maintain better hair than our people.I'm paraphrasing of course. Well those people in 3rd world countries live a simpler life than we do. They are not clouded with luxuries, and therefore not hindered by many toxins.
This argument/debate goes so big wide and deep and the topic of hair is just the beginning. If our black/brown melanated women KNEW the TRUE history of their hair, why it coiled, what it is made up of, and the essence of magic within it, they would never have anything negative to say again.(nor would they treat their hair hatefully with such harsh chemicals)
I say to you, what makes you think Africa and parts of it are still not colonized? Why do you even call it Africa? Not Nubia, Kemet, El Kebelon (sp), Ethiopia, Mareta? Because Scipio Africanus a white man that's why. You don't even know what to call your own homeland, so I can understand the disconnect and UNDERstanding of your home. The the Kems today you find with long hair are the older traditional type that have stayed away from that white ideology and live a KISS non western life. But skin bleaching and relaxers are the rage their. Thats why our sisters are not growing their hair still.
Colonization is not just physical with chains
It's a mental take over.
That has happened to people every where and for centuries now.
Even as you read my response, you gave me a colonized response.
I OVERstand the brainwashing of my melanated people, so I can understand why you would view my response as "BS".
When you finally do open your eyes, because even against your own wicked odds I believe even you can become deprogrammed, you will look back at these old ways of thinking, and wonder how could you ever whisper one negative word about your own people.
Those who OVERstand, already know, there is no good hair. NO good genes. No easier hair. Eat healthy, be healthy, think healthy, and live a natural life full of love.(WAY easier said than done) I noticed another argument used earlier was that even women in 3rd world countries with poor water etc... can still maintain better hair than our people.I'm paraphrasing of course. Well those people in 3rd world countries live a simpler life than we do. They are not clouded with luxuries, and therefore not hindered by many toxins.
This argument/debate goes so big wide and deep and the topic of hair is just the beginning. If our black/brown melanated women KNEW the TRUE history of their hair, why it coiled, what it is made up of, and the essence of magic within it, they would never have anything negative to say again.(nor would they treat their hair hatefully with such harsh chemicals)
I say to you, what makes you think Africa and parts of it are still not colonized? Why do you even call it Africa? Not Nubia, Kemet, El Kebelon (sp), Ethiopia, Mareta? Because Scipio Africanus a white man that's why. You don't even know what to call your own homeland, so I can understand the disconnect and UNDERstanding of your home. The the Kems today you find with long hair are the older traditional type that have stayed away from that white ideology and live a KISS non western life. But skin bleaching and relaxers are the rage their. Thats why our sisters are not growing their hair still.
People think colonization means everyone was in chains.
Holla
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I am just going to leave this snippet of what colonization may have meant to Africans during the European colonial era. I am sure they didn't have as much time as they may have wanted for hair care among other things let's say.
"King Leopold II of Belgium called his vast private colony the Congo Free State. Effectively this meant those exploiting the area were free of all restraint and answerable only to the Belgian king.[13] The treatment of the Africans under this system was harsh enough to cause the other colonial powers to plead with the Belgian king to exercise some moderating influence. Eventually the Belgian government annexed the territory as a Belgian colony.[14]
Khapoya (pp. 134–143) notes the significant attention colonial powers paid to the economics of colonisation. This included: acquisition of land, often enforced labour, introduction of cash crops, sometimes even to the neglect of food crops, changing inter-African trading patterns of pre-colonial times, introduction of labourers from India, etc. and the continuation of Africa as a source of raw materials for European industry.[15] "
The bold there sounds familiar.
What does all of that have to do with how Black people (various Africans in particular) take care of, grow and retain the length of their hair?
I've been to different countries in Africa....all up in rural areas where no White man has probably ever set foot and I know what I have seen as to their lifestyle and hair practices. Not universal to the continent or even to the entire country but enough to give me some perspective. I'm not going to defend colonialism but I also won't act like simply because of it, our hair tends to be shorter or retain less in length.
Plus, your post reminds me of what Black Israelites spew on a daily basis(you know them since you know about the Bronx). While lecturing to me in English ...ummmm the colonizer's language
....they wonder why everyone else doesn't know 100+ translations for "Africa" in various continental languages. Comical at best.
bronxsoloist
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I didnt say because of colonization our hair is shorter
I said due to biology and lack of knowledge
And black isrealites find themselves in harlem and bk
not the bronx
We can go from hair to biology to africa to colonization to religion
the fact remains that brainwashed thinkings of black hair is just that
Brainwash.
If you and others choose to believe that your hair does not grow because you were given a sub par combo of hair genes, then who am I or anyone else to defend that?
I'm sure most of my beautiful type 4 ladies would agree with me when I say we got the luckiest combo ever and should be so lucky.
Happy Hair Growing!
I said due to biology and lack of knowledge
And black isrealites find themselves in harlem and bk
not the bronx
We can go from hair to biology to africa to colonization to religion
the fact remains that brainwashed thinkings of black hair is just that
Brainwash.
If you and others choose to believe that your hair does not grow because you were given a sub par combo of hair genes, then who am I or anyone else to defend that?
I'm sure most of my beautiful type 4 ladies would agree with me when I say we got the luckiest combo ever and should be so lucky. Happy Hair Growing!
CodeRed
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It seems like this "good" hair debate is never going to end.
I don't know exactly what my hair type is (somewhere in the 4s) but I do know I have good hair because it's healthy. When I'm not doing something ignorant to it, it sheds normally and doesn't break off (again, when I'm not doing something stupid).
When people start categorizing "good" hair by texture, then yes, by default, they are saying some other type of hair is "bad" or "difficult" because it's more textured. I've met countless women with straight/slightly wavy hair who spend WAY more time on their hair than I do (to get pretty much the same result) but they are considered to have "good" hair because it's naturally straighter than mine. Dumbest thing in the world.
I don't know exactly what my hair type is (somewhere in the 4s) but I do know I have good hair because it's healthy. When I'm not doing something ignorant to it, it sheds normally and doesn't break off (again, when I'm not doing something stupid).
When people start categorizing "good" hair by texture, then yes, by default, they are saying some other type of hair is "bad" or "difficult" because it's more textured. I've met countless women with straight/slightly wavy hair who spend WAY more time on their hair than I do (to get pretty much the same result) but they are considered to have "good" hair because it's naturally straighter than mine. Dumbest thing in the world.
Holla
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I didnt say because of colonization our hair is shorter
I said due to biology and lack of knowledge
And black isrealites find themselves in harlem and bk
not the bronx
We can go from hair to biology to africa to colonization to religion
the fact remains that brainwashed thinkings of black hair is just that
Brainwash.
If you and others choose to believe that your hair does not grow because you were given a sub par combo of hair genes, then who am I or anyone else to defend that?
Happy Hair Growing!
Black Israelites have been all over NYC now for almost 100 years, ever since their founder inspired synagogues to be set up in Brooklyn, Harlem, Queens, AND the Bronx. I'm in the DMV now and they are even hanging out in front of the Verizon Center. They weren't going to skip the Bronx before heading south. Given that you didn't know that much about the Bronx, I question your knowledge about Africa.
My 4 a/b hair has reached great lengths and I have hair idols with 4a/b that reached waist length and beyond so I am not pressed about hair growing. I never said anything about it being good hair or bad hair. Nothing about kinky hair being subpar. I simply pointed out that some hair textures retain length easier than those with a kinkier texture. There is nothing inherently bad about that - no more than someone saying some people have skin that naturally is blemish-free while others have to do more to thwart skin issues to maintain a more even complexion.
bronxsoloist
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Trying to discredit me
whether facts or opinions
doesn't change the fact
that you hold a certain disbelief
about your own hair.
whether facts or opinions
doesn't change the fact
that you hold a certain disbelief
about your own hair.
*CherryPie*
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Holla
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That is your OPINION, not fact.
It is not my opinion that the Bronx has Black Israelites; it is a fact -something you were wrong about. Given that you don't know the difference between facts and opinions, I further question your knowledge about Africa.
No seriously.....we obviously have different thoughts about hair and that is fine. Happy Hair Growing to you too!
CenteredGirl
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Halleluyer to the bold. You are on point! I will no longer talk about the grade of hair, moisture retention is the key to all manageable and beautiful hair regardless of type.
You are on point! I will no longer talk about the grade of hair, moisture retention is the key to all manageable and beautiful hair regardless of type. 
Smiley79
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I think it's the daily rice and beans that we eat. When I was younger and at home and ate "diri a pois" (rice and beans) everyday, my hair was so much better than what it is now. Haitians don't eat out much, they don't mess with processed foods much. Rice, variety of beans, cornmeal, yams, green bananas, some meat or chicken, and stews made with cow foot or some good bone.
L'uile maskreti is a goodie too but I can't use it on my scalp much.
L'uile maskreti is a goodie too but I can't use it on my scalp much.
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Smiley79
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The company Curls Dynasty is created and owned by a Haitian woman. I look forward to using her entire line. I love the Pumpkin Mint mask.
https://curlsdynasty.com/
https://curlsdynasty.com/
Hey thanks! This looks wonderful!!! I will support!!!!!
