Hypnosis....?
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kweenameena
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LucieLoo12
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I dont know a scripture that speaks directly on hypnosis..but something about this doesnt sit right with me in my spirit, therefore Im not doing..
Iwanthealthyhair67
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^^I agree I doubt that there are any scriptures that would support my beliefs on this...the thing that concerns me most with this is that hypnosis is a form of mind traveling isn't it...who/what will step in and take over the body if I'm not there...and will I be able to get back in when I return...
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Rainbow Dash
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Letting someone else have control of your mind and thoughts is not of God. God has given us instructions on how our minds should be.
Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. 1 Peter 5:8
"The subtle serpent; to beguile our senses, pervert our judgment, and enchant our imagination." Clarke's Commentary Notes.
Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. 1 Peter 5:8
"The subtle serpent; to beguile our senses, pervert our judgment, and enchant our imagination." Clarke's Commentary Notes.
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Iwanthealthyhair67
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This is the link (GotQuestions) that was attached in comments above, posting here for ease of reference...
Question: "Should a Christian ever get involved with hypnosis/hypnotism?"
Answer: Hypnosis is problematic for a Christian for several reasons:
1) The fruit of the Spirit is self-control (Galatians 5:22-23). As we follow the Spirit’s lead, He will give us the power to better control our own selves. Hypnosis involves the transfer of control away from ourselves to another person.
2) We are to yield ourselves—body, soul, and spirit—to God. Romans 6:12-13 gives us the formula for overcoming sin: “Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. Do not offer the parts of your body to sin, as instruments of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer the parts of your body to him as instruments of righteousness.” It’s about control—as Christians, we can let sin control us, or we can let God control us. (See also Romans 6:16-23; 1 Corinthians 6:9-12; and James 4:6-7.) The scriptural formula leaves no room for hypnosis (yielding ourselves to a fellow human being).
3) Hypnosis leads to an altered state of consciousness in which the mind is very susceptible to outside suggestion. That susceptibility is what the hypnotist needs in order to modify the behavior of his subject. However, the word “susceptible” should concern us. Scripture says to be watchful and “… self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour” (1 Peter 5:8). The hypnotist is not the only one who wants to modify our behavior; Satan also wants to do some modifying, and we should be wary of giving him any opportunity to make his suggestions.
4) Hypnotism is often promoted as a simple way of “refocusing” ourselves and finding the answer within us. As believers in Christ, our focus is to be on our Savior, not on ourselves or anything else (Hebrews 12:2). We know that the answers do not lie within us (Romans 7:18); the solution we need is found in Christ (Romans 8:2).
5) Many of the techniques used in hypnosis are shared by mystical, philosophical, and religious systems, including the occult. The “father of hypnotism,” Franz Anton Mesmer—from whose name we get the word “mesmerize”—was himself a practitioner of the occult. His method of inducing a trance was very similar to the way a medium conducts a séance. Hypnotism, along with yoga and transcendental meditation, has always been linked to spiritual darkness. The newfound respectability of these practices has not changed their underlying nature.
Recommended Resource: The Truth Behind Ghosts, Mediums, and Psychic Phenomena by Ron Rhodes.
Question: "Should a Christian ever get involved with hypnosis/hypnotism?"
Answer: Hypnosis is problematic for a Christian for several reasons:
1) The fruit of the Spirit is self-control (Galatians 5:22-23). As we follow the Spirit’s lead, He will give us the power to better control our own selves. Hypnosis involves the transfer of control away from ourselves to another person.
2) We are to yield ourselves—body, soul, and spirit—to God. Romans 6:12-13 gives us the formula for overcoming sin: “Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. Do not offer the parts of your body to sin, as instruments of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer the parts of your body to him as instruments of righteousness.” It’s about control—as Christians, we can let sin control us, or we can let God control us. (See also Romans 6:16-23; 1 Corinthians 6:9-12; and James 4:6-7.) The scriptural formula leaves no room for hypnosis (yielding ourselves to a fellow human being).
3) Hypnosis leads to an altered state of consciousness in which the mind is very susceptible to outside suggestion. That susceptibility is what the hypnotist needs in order to modify the behavior of his subject. However, the word “susceptible” should concern us. Scripture says to be watchful and “… self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour” (1 Peter 5:8). The hypnotist is not the only one who wants to modify our behavior; Satan also wants to do some modifying, and we should be wary of giving him any opportunity to make his suggestions.
4) Hypnotism is often promoted as a simple way of “refocusing” ourselves and finding the answer within us. As believers in Christ, our focus is to be on our Savior, not on ourselves or anything else (Hebrews 12:2). We know that the answers do not lie within us (Romans 7:18); the solution we need is found in Christ (Romans 8:2).
5) Many of the techniques used in hypnosis are shared by mystical, philosophical, and religious systems, including the occult. The “father of hypnotism,” Franz Anton Mesmer—from whose name we get the word “mesmerize”—was himself a practitioner of the occult. His method of inducing a trance was very similar to the way a medium conducts a séance. Hypnotism, along with yoga and transcendental meditation, has always been linked to spiritual darkness. The newfound respectability of these practices has not changed their underlying nature.
Recommended Resource: The Truth Behind Ghosts, Mediums, and Psychic Phenomena by Ron Rhodes.
Iwanthealthyhair67
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Is God not enough
Taking up ones cross is such a daunting task for many of us that we find it extremely hard to do, we look to incorporate other beliefs religions with what his word says to make it 'easier' we don't want to experience any hard ships or sufferrings anything that will cause pain, make us unfortable in anyway is simply unacceptable to us...
Taking up ones cross is such a daunting task for many of us that we find it extremely hard to do, we look to incorporate other beliefs religions with what his word says to make it 'easier' we don't want to experience any hard ships or sufferrings anything that will cause pain, make us unfortable in anyway is simply unacceptable to us...
Laela
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carcajada
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No no no! It's not mind traveling. You aren't going anywhere! No one controls you. No one. Astro projection is not hypnosis!
Lord please help.
this thread is still ignorant.
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carcajada
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Rainbow Dash
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"Hypnosis, mental state of heightened suggestibility, characterized by trance-like sleep. The basis of hypnosis is the fixation of the subjects attention upon a gradually narrowing source of stimulation, until he is attendant upon only the directions of the hypnotist."
Don't allow anything or anyone to control your mind except the Lord through His Holy Spirit and the Bible.
1 Corinthians 6:12 (KJV)
Don't allow anything or anyone to control your mind except the Lord through His Holy Spirit and the Bible.
1 Corinthians 6:12 (KJV)
All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
If you are a Christian, the Word of God is to control your mind.
Rainbow Dash
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If you are in a state of prayer to God then you are focused on God. In His power and presence through HIS Spirit, not another person.
carcajada
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Exactly! You can do that through hypnosis. You can focus on God and speak to Him in that level of consciousness. I get most of my answers from Him when I am at that level.
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I do not have to do that. Being in the Spirit is not a result of hypnosis, but the Holy Spirit so God only gets that glory. How do you know it is Him when you do that?
Dead to self…why is this command so hard for people to understand? You are supposed to die so He can come alive inside, not look for ways to manipulate self into your favor. If you are looking for change, look to the Holy Spirit. That is His job, is it not?
This whole website is stupid.
[B]carcajada[/B] ... Why does one need hypnosis to be close to either hear from and/or speak to God? Our example is Jesus. Was He hypnotised to speak to God our Father? Did Jesus use hypnosis to minister to people? Did Adam, Abraham, Noah, Moses, Joshua, King David?
This is another deception of satan, to get people off track and off focus from God. God is not so deep that it takes for one to be in an hypnotic state in order to communicate with Him. If nothing more, hypnosis puts one to 'sleep' spiritually which is not a good thing, at all. God doesn't place any of us in a trance or a mystical state of being. He even calls us to be awake, to be vigilant, aware, open to Him.
Hypnosis is like falling asleep while driving, you can't see where you're going.
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Laela
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Ah, carcajada, if this peace doesn't emanate from the Holy Spirit, it's not complete, but rather a self-induced counterfeit version of His Peace. I stay away from anything that has "self" as a prefix. God is not a selfish God.
Reliance on the Holy Spirit to be still, even to pray, is not the same as self-hypnosis. We always talk here about renewing the mind according to His Word; to do this effectively, we must allow God's Word to do the altering (Spirit), not we ourselves, of our doing (flesh).
Reliance on the Holy Spirit to be still, even to pray, is not the same as self-hypnosis. We always talk here about renewing the mind according to His Word; to do this effectively, we must allow God's Word to do the altering (Spirit), not we ourselves, of our doing (flesh).
carcajada
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How do YOU know when God talks to you? If you are not open to listen to what hypnosis is on a basic level, then I cannot provide answers for you. I, however, don't want believers to walk around sounding very ignorant about the topic. When you "get" what a relaxed state of mind is, then it's plain to see how everyone goes into that same level all the time.
Rainbow Dash
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As Christians, we do not use hypnosis to get close to God. His Spirit is in us.
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carcajada
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What? So you're saying going to a quiet spot to pray and feeling peace when you go into that prayer is not of God? Because that's what I am saying.
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Scripture please.
carcajada
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Exactly....
An awesome word on 'self'.We are to relax in God, not in ourselves.
Misconception. Relax meaning being comfortable. You are doing too much with the word relax.
Laela
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That's not what you said earlier...to go sit in a quiet spot to go pray is not the same as psyching yourself through self-hypnosis, allowing distant sounds to disappear, etc.
I think that's the key word there, "feeling" peace; God's Peace is something a born-again Believer already HAS. So, one doesn't need to feel what they already KNOW theyHAVE. Feeling is one of our human senses; not of our Spirit nature.
I'm trying to make that distinction, because it is subtle. I don't believe you need to be still for a loooong time, literally, to experience God's Peace. You could be in the middle of chaos and BE at Peace-- instantly, because He is in YOU already.
Not trying to gang up on you..but I do hope you can see the subtlety of self-hypnosis.
I think that's the key word there, "feeling" peace; God's Peace is something a born-again Believer already HAS. So, one doesn't need to feel what they already KNOW theyHAVE. Feeling is one of our human senses; not of our Spirit nature.
I'm trying to make that distinction, because it is subtle. I don't believe you need to be still for a loooong time, literally, to experience God's Peace. You could be in the middle of chaos and BE at Peace-- instantly, because He is in YOU already.
Not trying to gang up on you..but I do hope you can see the subtlety of self-hypnosis.
carcajada
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Oh noooo you dont. I have been around long enough to know what yall do to scripture. I will not argue over God's Word with anyone here. So, feel free to Find a scripture yourself about blocking out troubles, leaving troubles behind and focusing on God. That's what you can do with "hypnosis."
carcajada
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That's what I meant when I said you feel peace going into prayer. It's easy to pick at what people say if you are out to pick it apart instead of listen. If you are set in what you want to believe, please pass my posts by. I am here to shed light on a very heavily misconceived topic, not defend every last one of my words from the dissection of semantics police.
In response about hpynosis: hypnosis is not psyching yourself out. It's relaxing as you normally would and focusing on what you want to focus on. Before someone picks apart that sentence, read on....
Some people like myself choose to focus on their daily devotional of God's word. We like to talk with Him and share with Him. Some people focus on themselves.
The practice in itself is not selfish. It's what you decide to do with it. It's like saying driving a car is unGodly because it can take you to unGodly places. Its what you decide to do with your car and where you take it that determines it's purpose. Same with hypnosis.
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If we are to be like Jesus, we are required to answer with scripture just as He did. I do not leave my troubles behind or block them; I turn them over to Him as required in scripture, just like Jesus did. My life is His, not mine.Oh noooo you dont. I have been around long enough to know what yall do to scripture. I will not argue over God's Word with anyone here. So, feel free to Find a scripture yourself about blocking out troubles, leaving troubles behind and focusing on God. That's what you can do with "hypnosis."
God does not take kindly to being manipulated and will turn people over to a deceptive spirit. Your technique is for you, not Him.
carcajada
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And on that note, Have a nice day. We have nothing further to discuss. Agree? Thanks.
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